>As new movies and shows continually expand the Marvel Cinematic Universe, many fans are concerned with how they represent a range of human experiences, along lines of race, gender, and sexuality, among others. That might seem like a distinctly twenty-first century thing, but the representation of groups of people was important to comic properties from the very beginning. As historian Paul Hirsch writes, it’s something the US government took very seriously during World War II, when the Writers’ War Board (WWB) shaped comic books’ depiction of ethnic and racial groups.
>Created in 1942, the WWB was technically a private organization. But, Hirsch writes, it was funded through the federal Office of War Information and essentially operated as a government agency. It worked to avoid heavy-handed propaganda, instead finding ways to place messages in popular media, including comic books. Major comic book publishers agreed to create stories based on input from the board’s Comics Committee.
>The board encouraged very specific hatreds based on race and ethnicity to build support for the increasingly brutal U.S. policy of total war.”
>The board encouraged very specific hatreds based on race and ethnicity to build support for the increasingly brutal U.S. policy of total war.” Funny thing is they didn't realize how incredibly brutal the Axis powers were when they did this policy of Total War.America at least followed International standards and laws engine while among its Army then people were supposed to get punished when they broke them. They did not always get punished because cover ups not wanted it to be public knowledge but Breaking them was not standard procedure.
Gavin Nguyen
>DIEEEEEEEEEE YOU YELLOW MONKEY BASTARDS!!! SEND EM ALL TO HELL!!!!!!
Someone needs to come up with a story of Black Terror and Tim in Japan, taking place post-WWII and how it would go for them and Japan
Like is Tim going to have to answer for the steamrollering?
Luke Thompson
Now you see the Japanese equivalent of doing that among the Imperial Army would be also shown to have unarmed women and children.Both of them are races as hell but one of them is in a war crime.
Angel Cook
Good grief. I know it is WW2 but steamrolling others seems kinda dark.
Bentley Myers
>Is this still happening today?
In comic books? I doubt it. Other media? For sure.
Andrew Williams
>. Other media? For sure. The war in the Middle East both Republican and Democratic governments lying about how it's going against Insurgency .
Robert Howard
I've read detailed testimony regarding some of what those poor, innocent Japanese got up to across Asia, including but not limited to: Cutting a Hong Kong nurse's heart out and eating it after raping her. Having a rape orgy where the eyes of Filipina prisoners were cut out and smeared on walls before their breasts were cut off and they were doused with petrol and set on fire Cannibalising Indian and American prisoners of war Setting Indian prisoners on fire Testing chemicals on Chinese prisoners Raping a woman to death with bamboo spears in the Solomon Islands Force marching prisoners for dozens of miles in Burma and the Philippines, bayoneting those who fell. Destroying countless civilian shipping, including hospital ships and those carrying famine relief. Practicing katana swings on prisoners Reprisal massacres of civilians and prisoners if the Allies managed to embarrass Japan, from the quarter of a million Chinese killed for the Doolittle Raid to the thousands of Bornean villages burned in reprisal for the Jesselton revolt The rape and machine gunning of captured Australian nurses Vivesection of prisoners without anaesthetic to determine the effects of everything from injecting animal blood to the effects of freezing temperatues Testing diseases including cholera, dysentery, typhoid, anthrax, paratyphoid and bubonic plague on both prisoners and civilian populations. And a hundred thousand other petty atrocities. The IJA was an organisation of cruelty and brutality where violence was a standard motivational tool. Officers beat NCOs, NCOs, beat soldiers and soldiers took their sadistic frustrations out on people they had been trained to see as subhuman. The Japanese (or more accurately their whining Western enablers) can fucking cry some more at being portrayed as the monsters they were.
Colton Campbell
Don't think anyone was trying to claim the Japs were an innocent party in WWII, you overly defensive chimp.
Parker Lewis
the comics published in response to 9/11 were absolutely propaganda, and 9/11 was an inside job.
Justin Clark
yeah, and all that bullshit still doesn't justify dropping nukes on civilians who had nothing to do with anything that you just listed
Carter Harris
Who do you think benefited in America from 9/11? Incompetence made 911 happen not deliberate action.
Matthew Collins
>the comics published in response to 9/11 were absolutely propaganda
Propaganda in the sense that its intention was to move the general public towards a sentiment? Sure. But government-sanctioned propaganda? Nah.
well, the fact that it would've been MUCH bloodier for both sides if we didn't drop the nukes does justify them.
Josiah Perez
It cut the war sort by years and save millions of lives with the Japanese are they giving up years ago.
John Howard
take your meds gramps it's not WWII anymore
Gavin Price
yes but instead of war it is anti -rumpism, degenerate emasculation and wokness propoganda
Jacob Hill
the military-industrial-complex. plus, a lot of privacy of citizens were silently eroded under the guise of "anti-terrorism"
Thomas Diaz
wolverine disapproves of this comic
Aaron Baker
TO THE POLLS!
Aaron Morris
wrong. soviets were amassing in manchuria. the "reasoning" for the nukes was that they worshipped the emperor. yet the u.s. allowed the emperor to live. it was to start the cold war and ramp up the weapons industry
On the contrary. It made Japan surrender faster (inb4 "but da Soviets") which meant the million strong rape and bayonet party still occupying most of China and Southeast Asia surrendered too. Had the war gone on for any longer they would have repeated their fun at the Bayview Hotel in Manila in a thousand other places.
Aiden Smith
Japanese already lost to the Americans years before and America's primary distraction Germany and Italy have been out for months before then which is why the Soviets were able to even focus on Japan like the Americans were. You think they just gave up magically because the Soviet Union's were too scary for them?No it's because Japan Tampa actually needed to do a military coup in order to speak to the nation himself in order to say they were given up which he didn't even technically use the what so end up and if they executed the Japanese a while that would have been Japan Civil War. Basically they decided to keep him in power to avoid further conflict.
Anthony Campbell
how am I a weeb for knowing the history of my country? they made so many goddamn purple hearts in anticipation of the ground-invasion.
the allies were actually fine with japan invading china because china was having a communist revolution at the time. you have no argument. whatever japan did, it was allowed to do because monarchist elements in europe and asia were waning in power. the u.s. dropped the bomb to "mark it's territory" pre-emptively against soviet russia
Jose Butler
>the "reasoning" for the nukes was that they worshipped the emperor. ...that wasn't the reasoning for the nukes whatsoever.
Blake Mitchell
[citation needed]
Kayden Scott
I'm actually Canadian. And the funny thing is even after two nuclear bombs and Russia going out to Japan the military did not want to surrender at that point.
Nathan Howard
Fine you're not a weeb. You're still an apologist and a bitch.
Daniel Bell
>the u.s. dropped the bomb to "mark it's territory" pre-emptively they dropped the bomb so they didn't end up pulling a WWI Britain, in losing a significant percentage of their young men to endlessly bloody conflict, you goon.
Logan Davis
bullshit. the u.s. and allies appeased hitler. the 3rd reich's war machine owed much of its existence to u.s. corporations like IBM, Alcoa, Standard Oil, Texaco, and Prescott Bush, Bush Jr's grandfather
the allies said nothing when the nazis facilitated Franco's invasion of Spain. the allies were fine with Manchukuo, a puppet monarch state that was fucking with China. you're deluded
Jose Martin
>apologist Why are you so mad that there were legitimate reasons for the nukes to be dropped? Would you prefer we went the route of a land invasion, where civilians would've been used as meat shields en masse until we finally get the same result, but with even more people dead?
Juan Lewis
What are you even going on about now the Allies gave up on appeasement with Hitler when he invaded Poland forcing them to go to war. Also people did not know what kind of atrocity Hitler was planning on committing in the war itself. Nobody was going to let Hitler lock away after they discovered the concentration camps cuz that would have been a recipe for future conflicts for generations and it kind of made it happen in the Middle East to this day.
Mason Lee
I...don't think that at all. I think maybe someone's (You)s got crossed.
Connor Walker
Then, why the fuck are you calling me an apologist?
If anybody got their (You)s twisted, it's (You); I've been having the same, consistent conversation since the beginning.
>why are you so mad why do you relish the deaths of humans?
>same result with more people dead that's not an argument if the number of people dead already existing at the time was a result of allied appeasement in the first place
>gave up on appeasement thank you. so you DO understand how the allies facilitated all of germany's and japan's actions prior to the war.
Jaxson Ortiz
True. The Allies that didn't exist in 1936 should have declared war on Hitler when Franco invaded (lol) Spain.
Christian Gray
>massacring innocent people was worth it because it made them surrender! >but actually it didn't make them surrender nice narrative
Colton Gray
Not wanting to go to war over something does not make you guilty of the other side's actions before and during the war. It means you have no backbone but it's still their guilt to bear.
Jason Hall
>why do you relish the deaths of humans? refer to pic rel. relishing in death would be wishing we had the ground invasion instead of the nuclear bombs. >that's not an argument if the number of people dead already existing at the time was a result of allied appeasement in the first place Uhh... Yes it is? Choosing the less bloody way to end a conflict will always be a valid argument, even if prior mistakes led to a larger death toll.
-first balfour declaration was a scheme to create israel as a satellite state of the crown -the crown put far right saudis in power -crown forces partition -u.s. influences Pakistan from it's beginning -operation ajax -operation cyclone -CIA helps saddam hussein take control from leftists who would likely have turned parts of the middle east secular -ISIS armed and funded by the U.S. -U.S. puts Taliban in power for the 2nd time in 2021
it wasn't less bloody because japan was going to surrender since the russian military was amassing in manchuria
Charles Moore
But actually it really did make them surrender,They believe as long as they never surrendered and never stopped fighting they could make the enemy stop fighting until nuclear bombs happen.Before that they basically believe the enemies they had would have no stomach for war and just abandon it as long as it is wasn't on there actual territory anymore.
Grayson Scott
Yes, Muslims are a peace-loving people who would never dream of fighting amongst themselves if the evil infidels weren't making them do it!
Brayden Brooks
that's correct. the notion of pan arabism was very popular and in fact it was invented by the british empire as a carrot to dangle in front of the people they wanted to influence in the middle east. keep licking boots. the leftists that were in power before saddam hussein in iraq were pan arabists and secular
William Powell
Are you deliberately missing everything the Muslim world did with the Soviet Union got messed up the Middle East? Also Islamic terrorists were mine camp and see it as a role model on how to treat the world. And the United States did not put the Taliban back in power they just got them the local government couldn't fight back due to incompetence and American not really planning on leaving in the u.s. Military .
Jackson Martinez
>because japan was going to surrender since the russian military was amassing in manchuria what makes you so sure of that? the japanese weren't known for surrendering easily--that's why the idea of a ground invasion was so damn risky in the first place.
if your entire argument hinges on a >"what if" then it's not a very solid argument.
Michael Collins
Counter-argument: Everyone's experiences of Arabs and Muslims as violent conquerors who engage in endless tribal squabbles when they've killed or converted everyone else for the last 1500 years.
Thomas Wilson
If basic logic would make Imperial Japan surrendered it probably would have given up when Hitler killed himself.
Ayden Sanchez
Ok
Chase Lee
>the united states did not put the taliban back in power
the u.s. literally put the taliban in power with operation cyclone and left in the 90s
then the u.s. did it again last year, and furthermore allowed the taliban to have advanced weaponry and bio-scan technology so they could murder any afghans who opposed them during the u.s. occupation. hamid karzai's (the prime minister's) brother was on CIA payroll for selling heroin. all this has happened so afghanistan can be handed over to chinese mining corporations
you're whining about the soviet union means nothing
Robert Wilson
Again, it's not my problem that you don't know how to follow a thread on Yea Forums.
congrats, you just described christianity under capitalism and serfdom
Chase James
>then the u.s. did it again last year, and furthermore allowed the taliban to have advanced weaponry and bio-scan technology so they could murder any afghans who opposed them during the u.s. occupation. hamid karzai's (the prime minister's) brother was on CIA payroll for selling heroin. all this has happened so afghanistan can be handed over to chinese mining corporations You're just going full conspiracy now.
Ian Cooper
buddy you can look it up. you have the internet, use it. this is basic knowledge
Ayden Russell
>cheap disposable entertainment made as propaganda during a war didn't have the most polite and nuanced portrayal of the enemy woah what a shock, i'm glad we've got PhDs to clue us in on huge truth bombs like this
Jayden Mitchell
How fun; siting an obscure source that conveniently sides with your argument whilst conveniently ignoring the logic of my argument of my prior post.
Do you let random article do all of your arguing for you? Because, if so, I'm sure I could find just as many articles stating the opposite to mindlessly spam back.
Jason Williams
you're missing the point. idiots believe cheap entertainment and it affects civil discourse negatively because of brandolini's law
Jaxon White
And many places on the internet says Holocaust is fake in is basic acknowledge. Why would the CIA wants to help Chinese mining companies?
Connor Gutierrez
>being at war with one superpower is what made them surrender, not the knowledge that they were about to be at war with two superpowers on different sides of the globe
it's common sense. cope
Jaxon Miller
because capitalism doesn't give a shit about nationality. ever hear of Iran Contra? the CIA is a textbook case of evil fuckery
>hurr durr it's just the internet
no, it's verified sources. hamid karzai's brother was on CIA payroll for selling heroin. chinese mining companies are going to make the taliban even wealthier
Ryan Murphy
Losing against one superpower by every measurement by a mile means you're going to have a hard time following basic logic just because another country who is going to become a superpower has also joined now. And it wasn't really on two sides of the globe a bunch of places it was probably last distance then Northwest Canada to South East Canada.
Parker Wood
we're talking about the CIA. they helped proxy militias work for Pol Pot during the same time that China was helping Pol Pot, so China could invade socialist vietnam
you're simply not ready for this rabbit hole, are you?
