Why are women so fucking bad at writing romances? It seriously feels like a whiny skinny geek wrote it and it's all about "why won't anybody care about how I feel?" Only for the author herself to give you the coldest shoulder you've ever felt.
The only people that manage to write romance correctly are adventure fags. Adventure fags seem genuinely good at every genre.
Because women have a children’s view of romance, no different than a child obsessed with fantasy Prince Charming. Why do you think cheap dollar store trash novels are still a thing? Men can write relationships because they acknowledge love is work, two flawed people trying to make it work and accepting the other despite imperfections. To a woman, this is a foreign concept
Someone posts that gay panel by kelly thompson
Why are 90% of women so fucking dumb though? How do they even survive in this world? Same for all the retarded male perverts. They both are like retarded children.
I'm pretty sure that one was by Gabby Riviera
Women all seem the same to me
Well its funny, because where women seem to lack in one area they excell in another. They are really good at making things action oriented and visually appealing. Take shounen writers, a lot of them are women and are really good at making them.
Women weren't built to be smart, giving women rights destroyed the balance in the universe
The best romance series are being written by women though. American comic writers can't write romance in general, neither men nor women, because the romances are always secondary (at best) to the rest of whatever they're writing even though what they tend to be putting greater importance on isn't actually all that good either.
I think you're just gay, OP.
Jesus, her comedy is so garbage. She tells a "joke" and then give the audience a scary look, to force a reaction. You never see Dave Chappel do that.
40% of the time gays actually write better romance as long as they switch the genders. Sadly gays are just as dumb, frilly, childish as women.
I don't like any romance depicted in media. Am I fucked in the head or is the quality just low overall?
Have you ever read a romance novel? Its literally porn for women. On CRINGE levels and they sell like hotcakes.
Comics are not written well in general. Its just dumb entertainment for guys and manchildren like us.
I read Wuthering Heights and it still felt like I was reading about 2 confused hick children who don't understand what an adult life, maturity, relationshits and not being a fucking nigger entailed. And that was suppose to be one of the better romance stories.
>tfw I kinda like it
Sex is temporary. Romance lasts longer.
Romance is killing fiction. The sooner we get rid of it, the better
>Romance lasts longer
Female romance is all childish passion and zero compassionate love
It's all rather childish. You eventually grow out of it.
Why would you expect anything else from the creatures who are incapable of love?
But all shonen is trash, so you disproved your point.
>childish passion
>compassionate love
Elaborate on the difference, please. No, like, legit elaborate, I never read any romance novels but I also never saw someone explain their distaste from them using terms like this before and I'm interested in your views now.
Both are true. Neither related to the other.
As a guy, you should be able to connect with the Deadpool movie's romance, since it's very crass.
Imagine not being able to tell this is bait
Based
You know how old Simpsons episodes used to be considered very edgy and transgressive, due to the fact that what it showed was shocking compared to the other tv shows?
You know how rewatching those old episodes doesn't have the same effect anymore? Same thing with WH novel.
Go read dozens upon dozens of other novels from that era. Then you'll see WH for what it is. It's like Citizen Kane, tough to properly enjoy, due to the things that make CK great, being adopted by literally everyone after.
>passion
Hard to describe without using it in the sentence.
The first moments of romance. The actively burning desire for one another. The titillation of new, possibly forbidden, experience with one another. Where one or more parties is actively trying every single step of the way. Grand gestures. Eventually dies down with time because of familiarity (and age, a man only has so much energy)
>compassionate
The comfort of coexistence. Feelings of assuredness. Knowing there is someone else in the world who truly cares for you and you care for them back. The ability to lay down next to one another for dozens of years and be entirely content holding them or looking in their eyes. Smaller, consistent gestures of affirmation and understanding.
Compassion can be platonic, entirely between two friends or between family while passion is almost exclusively between lovers. Passion falls off over time going from the dominating thought of a relationship to a few sporadic bursts while compassion is the real meat and potatoes, the ability to truly empathize with another human being.
Women entirely romanticize passionate love, the idea of the wild man storming in and sweeping them off their feet but modern, western women either refuse to acknowledge or outright loathe the idea of being with someone for a long time even after the passion has fallen into remission. They want constant new 'adventures' vicariously through their man, something that is simply impossible to provide. They all want to be the one who tames the wild man or defies fate of crossed stars under a storm of passion but don't think about spending years and years in a daily routine, being able to be blissfully at peace with an aging partner.
And its understandable, its hard to right stories that don't have adventure but a majority of women have had their beliefs shaped that they really think all a relationship should be is constant thrill and arousal, that they all deserves the .01% of males
>women suck at writing romance
and yet they are better reads than 'generic or OP self-insert attracts every girl in a mile radius despite being a wet piece of cardboard of a character'
It's a self fulfilling conundrum. They were raised by the media created by women, basically telling them that they deserve everything, and no matter how bland and boring you are, the rich, attractive, talented men will all throw themselves at you. So they grow up expecting rich, attractive, talented men to throw themselves at them, and write story like how they expect things to be, being, again, rich, attractive, talented men throwing themselves at them, so that to new generation of women think, one more time, rich, attractive, talented men will throw themselves at them. They were raised on a rose tinted lens of reality, an once the Real reality sets in, they are forced to settle for what they can get, rather than what they expect.
Not to mention a lot of those types of writers express that sleeping around with lots of different men And women is a good empowering things, where most people would be put off by a partner who slept with lots of different people.
Nta you were replying to, but i like what you wrote. Its like the idea that love isn't just an emotion you feel its also a verb you do. Passion is the feeling of love and compassion is the action of love. Its like if you see old married couples, they say it takes work. Thats not a bad thing, it just means you have to make the decision to act in love.
What panel?
I googled "gabby riviera gay" and my computer exploded.
Yea, but most of the worst romance series are also written by women. So you gotta keep that in mind when making the mental scatter plot.
If it's bait, why is it objectively correct
They really aren't, unfortunately.
Why is everyone speaking in vague universal generalizations as if this was all common knowledge, when the only actual series posted ITT so far are these two , neither of which are Yea Forums.
When was the last time any of you actually read an actual, romance-focused comic, let alone one written specifically by a woman? Do they even exist anymore, or is it just literally two rags about dykes left? We have plenty of garbage romance sub-plots which take over stories like tumors, but hardly any straight-up romance stories.
Because this thread isn't actually about how romance is written in comics and media, it just exists some some /r9k/ crossboarders can go WOMAN BAD.
>bait
>it just exists some some /r9k/ crossboarders can go WOMAN BAD.
well, they are
But you're smart.
Passionate love is novel, but easy - it's what comes naturally to us or comes out of spontaneity. It's laughing out loud when a guy tells a joke on the second date because it was funny; it's surprising a girl with chocolates and flowers and jewelry because you think she'll put out; it's telling a guy he's a better fuck than your ex because you think it'll stroke his ego; it's telling a girl she's still sexy when she has a bad hair day; it's when you get dumped and you feel so depressed you can't work or eat or get out of bed.
Compassionate love is routine, but hard - it takes work and a conscious effort. It's smirking at the same joke the 3,485th time you've heard him tell it because you know how much it means to him that he can make you smile; it's picking up dill at the market because you saw there wasn't any dill on the rack and you remember she was talking about doing roast potatoes with dinner on Thursday and this way she doesn't have to ask about it or think about it there'll just be dill there; it's telling a guy he's a better man than his father because he's in a bad place and he needs to hear you tell him that and believe it; it's staying with a girl through the mastectomy and the EBR and you do your best to not look at the scars but not NOT look at the scars because you know how much either freaks her the fuck out; it's when they're gone and the next day you get out of bed and carry on without missing a beat but every little thing seems muted or desaturated.
Jenny is a good waifu because she would actually appreciate stupid, lovey dovey, romantic gestures, though.
>Men can write relationships because they acknowledge love is work
Bro don't lie. Name one romance story by a guy that wasn't contrived garbage. Almost every romance story is shit because only autistic people write them.
You sure you're not talking about burger "women"? The rest are okay and even decent.
>Am I fucked in the head
Yes. You post here, so yes.
>or is the quality just low overall?
Also yes.
Over 80% of the romance genre is written by women, its no wonder the best and the worst are written by women.
>You sure you're not talking about burger "women"? The rest are okay and even decent.
nah
The issue is that I wouldn't call this romance. Sexual exploration is more coming of age than it is romance story. Some of the themes of typical romance stories are there but a lot of them have been sidelined for the smut. And maybe that's the way romance stories should turn out to be now but it certainly defies the kind of "Fabio on cover" garbage women have bought before.
>but hardly any straight-up romance stories
Because you can't do straight romance stories without decently explicit sex appeal.
>Only for the author herself to give you the coldest shoulder you've ever felt.
Um... Something you wanna tell us OP? Which writer girl gave you the coldest shoulder?
Women think on pure emotion. When you realize that, everything makes sense.
Except those aren't romance.
The best romance is written by homos
So you don't like romance-focused stories, you only like romance as a side plot in adventure stories.
>implying men don't write romance as the woman is a flawless queen that the loser protag wins as a prize by completing his personal growth since most writers are entitled but neurotic nerds
This is so weird to me. One would think it would be the opposite, that women would be good at describing the comfort of coexistence. Since this is arguably what many women look for in a relationship: someone steady and reliable, someone to fall back on and potentially shield them from the big scary unpredictable world.
>The rest are okay and even decent.
On the outside maybe.
That's the grand lie, or at least the grand misunderstanding. A good portion of women do want that. But they don't want it directly, they want to tame the bad boy. They want someone whom they already know to be capable of providing security for themselves and their family and then to train them into also being stable and reliable. This is the great female power fantasy, it isn't a discounted version of the male heroic journey, it is breaking Enkidu. It is finding a man already capable of great violence and saddling him. They don't want the man they've never seen in action because they can't actually rely on him despite his primary trait being actual reliability. Our core instinct as human beings is to still select mates like hunter-gatherers and early bronze age instability despite our social contract specifically forbidding those things.
There are a number of different flaws regarding modern sexual selection and how the social contract plays into it but what the female wants out of a spouse has always been somewhat constant (though more and more modern culture pushes them away from any serious relationship at all) its just that what they want doesn't function appropriate towards all the agency they now have and how passive and punishing masculinity is in western society..
>its just that what they want doesn't function appropriate towards all the agency they now have
What do you mean? How would their lack of agency change anything?
user women made romances are made for women not men you pea brained nut head. Thats why I avoid most things made by women.
No they can think with logic it's just no one taught them how to.
Women are bad. At least as writers.
>women are monkey cavemen
Woah... Well that sucks.
How does anyone here know how a woman acts if they barely interact with them?
by listening to what men say about women. duh.
They have agency to enter the job market, depressing the wages of males working in it and thus their appeal
They have the agency of extreme travel and communication, making them evaluate all possible partners to the highest possible they can witness
They have the agency to shoot for outside of their socio-economic class and to aim purely for only the most attractive mates.
Hell, they have agency to choose their own partners when they by-and-large didn't for a long time and they did what was best for the family as a whole.
This problem of hypergamy used to be solved by natural limitations and the social contract itself being formed specifically to keep the plebs bought into the system. When each man has a family he's not going to be able to just rage against the system because he's bought into it.
Nah you can marry a rich corpo girl and even beat her in court. It's true and the life expectancy between men and women is slowly but surely becoming equal. Life is good bro I'm enjoying the chaos.