Marvel: Civil War 2

It was a event.

Pretty much this. Remember when people called out She-Hulk being nearly killed by missiles from War Machine and Bendis responded with: "Well, those were anti-Thanos missiles!"

Just a lazy rip off of Minority Report.
Where as Iron Man had a few good ideas during the first civil war run, Carol went full retard from the get go and absolutely no one called her out on how retarded she was.
Unironically rehashed the writers being dumb as shit for thinking Carol would be the fan favorite, just like they did with Tony and thus writing her as correct despite every metric saying she was actually a villain
Nothing interesting got done with it and it amounted to nothing. At least the first civil war had World War Hulk following it, that was pretty fun.

We literally just had Time Runs Out which was pretty much already Civil War II

>didn’t warrant everyone else to get involved.
That describes every event

It was a cash grab written by Bendis.
They killed off Rhodey solely because they thought he died in the Captain America: Civil War trailer.

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>they thought he died in the Captain America: Civil War trailer.
It's Disney so secretive they didn't even told their comic writers the movie's plot?

I'd be willing to believe no one bothered to ask.

Do you think the MCU gives a shit about what the comics are doing?

Of course they don't care but I thought since Bendis was supposed to be a big name and the first Civil War sold well they may had made an exception

>It's Disney so secretive they didn't even told their comic writers the movie's plot?

They rarely ever tell the comic writers (or other people not directly connected with Marvel Studios) the movie's plot. The reason is to avoid spoilers leaking.

Bendis was part of the Creative Committee that oversaw the movies and everything else, but around 2015, in the middle of making Captain America: Civil War, Feige took total control of Marvel Studios and punted the Creative Committee out of the process. Bendis was probably aware of what plans the movies had before the Civil War movie, but with that movie he may only have known only the early/middle stages of it.

I think at the time the Creative Committe oversaw Captain America: Civil War that War Machine was probably planned to be killed off, but plans changed without Bendis knowing it. Saying that he got the idea from a trailer sounds less damaging than "I heard from my friend at Marvel Studios they were still going to kill War Machine off, so I added that into the comic"

>but around 2015, in the middle of making Captain America: Civil War, Feige took total control of Marvel Studios and punted the Creative Committee out of the process.
Huh, that's around the time I got sick of these movies...

They really should have though.

If precognition was reliable, that would mean there is no free will and thus punishing people for anything is immoral since they had no other option than to do what they did.

The last two movies the Creative Committee had any involvement with were Civil War and Doctor Strange. Everything after that was pure Marvel Studios.

It did the, in what I thought was frankly impossible, task of making Carol even more unlikeable.

nu-carol is a villain but marvel is so out of touch that they think throwing people into concentration camps is heroic

>bendis
>whoever that's supposed to be on the right
ez

Bad time for this kind of event (they just got done with Secret Wars)
The premise is weak
The pacing is awful compared to Millar's. Millar gradually escalated the conflict to a full-on confrontation by #3. Since you have to count at least the issue where Thanos shows up and fights heroes (that was a FCBD issue or something, wasn't it?) and a #0 issue, the "war" doesn't really start until the last pages of #4. There are conflicts between Carol and Tony, but they get sidetracked by other things like Hawkeye killing Hulk.
The whole thing with She-Hulk, where it was obvious Bendis was going to kill her off (which would be the reason why Banner was going to Hulk out) which was already a stupid idea to begin with, then made stupider after the leak happened and they had to quickly say that "no no, she's actually still alive, and now she's savage and grey!"

Why does Carol look like a dyke?

Alonso-era Marvel went all-in on desexualizing their heroines, reducing their breasts, flattening curves, having gay artists design new costumes, She-Hulk and Carol got the absolute worst of it, Carol got drawn to look very manly a lot of the time, it's where the Karl Manvers meme came from.

Because just like the first Civil War it was trying to hard to make super heroes realistic but didn't have likeable characters to prop it up.

Was it really that much worse than all the events of the last 20 years?

FPBP

>Marvel 80´s: 9 events
>Marvel 90´s: 8 events
>Marvel 2000´s: 21 EVENTS
>Marvel 2010´s: 31 EVENTS
>Marvel 2020´s: Only two years and we already have 8 events
It´s insane

If we limit it to Marvel-wide events, and not smaller-scale crossovers that were just confined to the Spider-Man, X-Men, Avengers or Cosmic books, I think it would be like this:

>80s: 7 events
>Contest of Champions
>Secret Wars
>Secret Wars 2
>Evolutionary War
>Inferno
>Atlantis Attacks
>Acts of Vengeance

>90s: 4 events
>Infinity Gauntlet
>Infinity War
>Infinity Crusade
>Onslaught

>2000s: 6 events
>Maximum Security
>Contest of Champions 2
>House of M
>Civil War
>World War Hulk
>Secret Invasion

>2010s: 8 events
>Fear Itself
>Avengers vs X-Men
>Original Sin
>Axis
>Secret Wars
>Civil War 2
>Secret Empire
>War of the Realms

>2020s: 3 so far
>Empyre
>King in Black
>Judgment Day

Exactly
Bendis is a shit in so many ways but he can’t be entirely blamed for CW2. Feige being a massive sperg and causing disruptions during the development of CW was the main issue

The blame would go to whoever decided to do Civil War 2 in the first place
Bendis still would get blamed because he could've not killed off War Machine. There was really no need for perceived synergy in this case, and it would've lessened the impression that Bendis killed off a black character to replace with an all-new black character he co-created.

>>Contest of Champions 2

This was from 1999.

Bendis.
Inhuman push.
Carol.
Everything comic readers hate culminated into an event.

Sorry, you're right. Not sure if it should even count as an event.

>Bendis
>"We have a Civil War movie coming out, might as well write a new Civil War in the comics!"
There's your answer

And the movie managed to be better than both comics

Dude why do you start with what when right? It'll be way quick to see the problem.

Dude, it was even dumber. They went sending them to jail. They were detaining them til the bad event time passed and just letting them go. It was dumb.

why is this thread being made so much recently?

Because every day we get closer to 2026 and we all know Marvel will do Civil War 3 on the 20th anniversary of the original event.

Isn't synergy the reason Inhumans were getting pushed like Roman Reigns in 2016?

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Yes

youtu.be/d6jYurgjIBA

Roman what? Is that NFL player?

Did those threads about analogue horror bring up his videos he did for April Fools this year?

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It's kinda funny and kinda sad there are still "people" on Yea Forums defending Bendis with justifications such as "he's only as bad as everyone else, you guys!" and "r-remember that thing he wrote 10+ years ago?"

Fiege got so fed up with writers from Marvel constantly coming over with movie pitches and shit that he went directly to Bob Eiger and had him make Marveo Studios and separate entity from Marvel Entertainment

What if Ike won and Feige left? Would he go to DC? Would someone else buy Fox instead? Would the Inhumans be still getting that Roman Reigns push?

If Ike won it could be possible that Inhumans get made into a movie instead of TV movie/show

It's getting harder and harder to defend him
Like before he went over to DC they could try to argue "wait, maybe it's Marvel's editors that were the problem" and then he wrecked stuff at DC in a shorter amount of time than when he was at Marvel.

The only people I ever see defending Bendis on Yea Forums are obvious trolls, or X-Men fans. Until the gay Iceman controversy at the end, his X-Men run really seems to have played to what they wanted.

Because she is. A militant one.