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It's a suicide cult that parents do not want their children being indoctrinated into at public schools in secret.
And gay marriage was clearly a mistake, as everything that boomers warned about has already come true.

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We already had a thread on this one.

ok groomer

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boys have a penis, girls have a vagina

If you choose not to die on any hill, you'll eventually find your country has lost every hill.

He really has just bounced between different forms of insanity over the years

Tats might quite literally be schizo

This makes me realise he's the Nega-Garrison.
> No words
> Many panels
> Still shit

That's not horseshoe theory you fuckwit.

and yet somehow they ended up on the same side of the issue by coming from opposite directions.

He posted this on Twitter and it's actually garnering some of the "I thought the Babylon Bee was supposed to be satire" crowd.

If he keeps this up he might actually springboard to the same notoriousness as GPrime and Stonetoss.

>Gay marriage was just a dumb thing to oppose too
It never was about just gay marriage, user. Nobody really gives a shit about what people do in their own bedrooms.
Making specific laws, however, is a major issue for the stability of our civilization.
Ever heard the joke about lowering the age of consent, one day at a time?
The principle behind it goes for destabilizing laws, too.
The "modern" family (one man loyal to one female and vice versa) is the very foundation upon which our current civilization is build.
Once gay marriage is allowed, this principle is destroyed and it'll be a matter of years before our civilization gets unstable enough to be replaced with another, more stable version.

Yeah it turns out trannies will never be real woman, mind blowing.

that's exactly what it is, radicalized schizos are indistinguishable on their methods no matter their beliefs

Not really. They are just reactionaries with two different orthodoxies.
They have the same enemies and conspiracies.

more like Babylon Based

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Tat was an anti-sex conservative through all, of his feminist phase. He became disillusioned with feminism when they disowned him for not falling in line on trans issues and when they tried to persuade him hetero sex and porn is okay.

His progression to this point is actually pretty logical.

I can't wait for Black Hole Sun theory to become mainstream on the right, so we can finally prove that their sickness is terminal and the only prescription is lead.

>that's exactly what it is
>In political science and popular discourse,[1] the horseshoe theory asserts that the extreme left and the extreme right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear political continuum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together.

This does not, however, mean, that there is a pipeline from one end of the horseshoe to the other. There's a reason it's a horseshoe and not a circle. The horseshoe theory does not espouse easy ideological movement. To the contrary, it denies it.

omg i that the bee was satire! Lol

But seriously I'd be mad too if the government said I could be dragged into civil court just because Tucker Carlson suggested I was secretly teaching wrong thought, and my salary was goddamn $40k a year before taxes.

>Dipshits bitching about people teaching kids about sexual intercourse weirdly focus on passing laws that don't mention teaching kids about sexual intercourse, just gender and orientation.
It's almost like they want that shit explicitly to be legal.

In unrelated news, Tennessee moves to make heterosexual child marriage legal.

>The "modern" family (one man loyal to one female and vice versa) is the very foundation upon which our current civilization is build.

You realize that this purely is the result of economics, not culture, right? Monogamous families accrue more generational wealth with greater stability, because the inheritance is not so split or fought over. This results in the next generation being richer, and that directly translates to more influence and power because thats what money does.

The economic model doesn't give a shit if its a man and a woman, or two women, or two dads, etc. What matters is the inheritance.

Honestly, I'm amazed that Tats even has an audience anymore. Like, remember when this was a comedy comic about a pervert and his devil waifu? And not the extended, unending political ramblings of a madman? Is this how Cerebus readers felt?

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You could always stop grooming children if you didn't want to get sued by parents for grooming children.

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Tats hates trannies because he's a radfem and radfems obsessed with protecting women from male power.
Ben Garrison hates trannies because he's a conservative and conservatives are obsessed with defending male power.
I get what you're trying to say but both sides have opposite motivations here.

What's right wingers' obsession with the idea that public schools are teaching kids Soviet and Chinese communism? Like, I sort of get the LGBT stuff, because that's actually accepted by liberal orthodoxy, but the US government and Marxism-Leninism are strongly antagonistic towards each other. It's bizarre.

I can't tell whether the "Tennessee" thing in the last NPC update was intentional or some sort of glitch.

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As the right gets taken over by schizoids like the spammer ITT, there will continue to alienate any moderate voters they had a chance to persuade.
It's already happening everywhere.

>He became disillusioned with feminism when they disowned him for not falling in line on trans issues and when they tried to persuade him hetero sex and porn is okay.
He was a radfem but actual radfems are a niche within a niche and they wouldn't speak to him for having a dick, because they are objective man haters

He's basically the bald dude in that cerebus

>This does not, however, mean, that there is a pipeline from one end of the horseshoe to the other.
You are mixing upconcept.
Tat is a radicalized sperg.
He doesn't care about ideology, he wants his incelized form of violence to be validated.

Horseshoe theory is about radicals being ok with death camps for the other side of whatever ideology they belong to

There's another theory too, which I can't remember the name of: States that radicals are not true believers but violence addicts and when their belief is disproven they'll end up jumping boat to another "opposing" belief because deep inside they just wanna be violent.

Tat proves both

You can get dragged into civil court by anyone at any time if they have the motive. Normally you could get your money back after fucking YEARS if the lawsuit was bullshit, but when the government declares such suits to be universally not bullshit, now you're just hugely liable and at risk to lose your savings and retirement to defend yourself in court from some dipshit Karen.

These new civil lawsuit laws to game the court system are one of the worst things to happen in US law in our lifetimes. The process here is a disaster, regardless of what it achieves. This isn't law, it's lawfare.

I mean, 9 is too young for that specific message but porn IS free and something everyone looks at. Its insane to think otherwise.

Trust me, nobody here was in their 30s when they discovered what masturbation was.

Yes, I'm sure your platform of child grooming is really winning people over.

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Good, I'm going to sue you because you're a groomer.
Die penniless and mad.

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>"we're winning" says increasingly nervous man as he posts the same tweet for the third time today

>What's right wingers' obsession with the idea that public schools are teaching kids Soviet and Chinese communism?
Teachers tend to skew heavily liberal because right wingers eschew any career that involves serving a community outside of surgeons and cops (because those careers attract sociopaths) and they inherently believe any liberal in a position of authority would abuse their position to spread their political will (because that's what they would do) and that paranoia combined with the that circumstance generates immense suspicion and hatred of public schools.

You legit could under the laws being passed. Any teacher you had a beef with. You just need to discover a little flimsy pretext.

>Tat proves both
I know he proves both. My point was the earlier poster was mixing up the theories.

Political threads on Yea Forums are always so funny because there's a clear difference of intelligence between the right wing posts and left wing posts.
>one screams groomer over and over
>one actually discusses the law

The public acceptance of gyas has destroyed male friendships and the ability of men to be with young children. Everything is seen in a sexual light and men cannot be alone or close to other men or children without the assumption being that he wants to fuck them.

It is harmful to western civilization as a whole.

>and they inherently believe any liberal in a position of authority would abuse their position to spread their political will (because that's what they would do)
The thing is though, even if that were true, liberalism is a different ideology than Marxism. And it's not even just a matter of one being "more left" than the other, the two ideologies rest on different core assumptions about the state, the economy, and human nature itself. And "Progressivism" is essentially just a reform-minded development of liberalism, it doesn't challenge any of those core assumptions.

They should, if viewed from a top-down view of pure political theory.
However their proximity in terms of thought patterns and resulting openness to the same kinds of fallacies have meant that TERFs and conservatives have long been working hand in hand.
That's why you see fascists promoting Rowling and her ilk and the TERFs are working with the Tories in Britain. Because they hate trans women more than they want to help women.

You saw the same thing when the Nazis and the Soviets shared Poland like a pizza.
Just because you are nominally opposed does not mean you can't build an uncomfortable alliance to fight sane people.

>The thing is though, even if that were true, liberalism is a different ideology than Marxism
Not in right-wing propaganda. Your problem is you're being rational.

>Nobody really gives a shit about what people do in their own bedrooms.
The sodomy laws were used to persecute people for what they did in their private bedrooms.

fuck i'm so glad i grew up in the 90s and don't have kids now. even if this stuff can be presented objectively, it definitely won't be by the ultra liberals flooding the school systems. tranny farms coming right up!

The only way to preserve conservativism is abstinence from opposing information.

There was a study... last year I think? They took a bunch of people that listed fox news as their primary media source, and a bunch of other people that listed CNN as their primary media source. They surveyed them to establish baseline expectations and beliefs. and then they were paid to watch the other news program for 30 days, survey again, and with a 6 month followup for a final survey.

More than half of the Fox news watchers listed that they kept watching CNN 6 months later after they were no longer paid to do so. Less than 5% of the CNN watchers stuck with fox news.

Once you get people outside of the Fox news bubble and expose them to actual information, they tend to realize that what Fox was selling them was complete bullshit. THAT is why conservatives care so much about imposing limitations on education, they know that with access to education and information their chances to keeping they next generation conservative goes down the drain. People that go through higher education overwhelmingly lean left, no matter where they were schooled (with the exception of specifically religious campuses).

Allow me to help; The Democratic party, like the Republican party, is a big tent party, it has many different political ideologica factions.

One faction in the Democratic party is the Intellectual socialists, Socialists brought up on Academic ideals brought over from Socialist philsophers, not Marxist or Maoist in a sense, but still very VERY communist/socialist. These Socialist academics are popular because their ideology can basically never be put to scrutiny in the academic field, beca\use it doens't matter how hard critical theory utterly fails compared to the actual common law system in terms of determining fair legal outcomes, Academics never need to face any kind of actions for their own ideology being trash.

Progressivism isn't Liberal, because ultimately it seeks control over freedom and seeks to modify the input to seek the desired output.

TLDR, Progressives are socialists because they demand equity and social control over a liberal exchange of ideas.

You see, if you are an insecure nincompoop who does not understand shit about squad and has been raised on anti-intellectualism, it just does not matter what you say, whether it is coherent or whether you can be proven wrong by anyone who knows anything.
You are an idiot talking to idiots, so the only measure is whether it flies with the other idiots, who absolutely will not do any research except watch conspiracy videos that feed their biases.

I don't understand why americans pass bills to not allow their kids to be taught about sex. In germany we had a sex education class in 3rd grade, they even showed us how to use condoms and nothing weird happened.

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>Not in right wing propaganda

You're confusing the terminology, Liberal, large L, is just slang for the democratic party.

Liberalism itself is the core tenant to basically every right wing ideology in the west bar nazism.

>Progressivism isn't Liberal, because ultimately it seeks control over freedom and seeks to modify the input to seek the desired output.
>TLDR, Progressives are socialists because they demand equity and social control over a liberal exchange of ideas.

If thats the case, why are conservatives always clamping down on personal freedoms and restricting education? Surely that is as direct an example of limiting the exchange of ideas as one could muster. How do you reconcile this with your definition of progressive?

It's just iconography meaning "bad".

>Calling anti-intellectualism a bad thing

Intellectualism leads to Scientists in wildly different fields trying to shoutdown others because they think intellect is universial.

Intellectualism is one of the biggest faults the modern world.

Ironically, I've heard this exact thing about the left and liberalism in general. I believe it was something along the lines of 'every website that allows free speech inevitably becomes right wing, because leftism can only thrive under censorship in places like Reddit.'

Do young think anyone thinks Germany is a good example of how you'd want your people to turn out?

This.

Same sex marriage was legalized in the first state 2004. Gay sex was legalized in the last states in 2003.

>One faction in the Democratic party is the Intellectual socialists, Socialists brought up on Academic ideals brought over from Socialist philsophers, not Marxist or Maoist in a sense, but still very VERY communist/socialist.
Name 5 political figures who fit this mold
>Progressivism isn't Liberal, because ultimately it seeks control over freedom and seeks to modify the input to seek the desired output.
This rests on a very flawed understanding of the history of what Liberalism entails. Progressives fundamentally are seeking the same desired "output" as classical liberals, a specific conception of "freedom". The only issue is that history showed laissez-faire capitalist policies don't actually lead to freedom for most people, so they're attempting to fix this with regulations. The fundamental conception of the role of the state hasn't changed.

Early and appropriate sex-ed actually helps to prevent kids from getting groomed, because if a kid knows what their body parts are, and what’s appropriate and inappropriate touching, they can tell a trust worthy adult about potential abuse, as opposed to letting Uncle Touchy tell their niece not to let mom and dad know because she’ll get in trouble. That’s doesn’t mean they need to know about flavored lube and blowjobs in third grade, but they should know if their babysitter puts her mouth on their penis they need to tell mom and dad.

Knowledge prevents harm, ignorance invites it.

>Progressivism isn't Liberal
Europeans just need to stop trying to comment on American politics.

>Why are conservatives always clamping down on personal freedoms and restricting education

Because one, if not the core argument in Liberalism is where the line is drawn between freedom of the individual and the rights of others. I know this may shock you, but most people are not an extreme binary of political theories and the entire reason why call them Political SCHOOLS is that no one idea is in control and instead they are various different ideas under one banner.

I suppose you are trying to attackthe bill preventing gender and sexuality discussion to minors then? Gotta ask, why do we need to teach minors about niche sexual acts performed by people who should always be consenting adults?

Don't worry, his Patreon is slowly dwindling away to nothing. I imagine a lot of them are just supporting him out of habit, without remembering that they even make the monthly payment - I'm the same with Lackadaisy, and (afaik) the creator of that hasn't gone insane

Any website that fails to moderate becomes a Neo-Nazi hangout that drives everyone else out because the whole thing looks like /pol/.

Literally the Squad, plus Bernie Sanders; Each one of them is a middle class midwit who was gorged by university level socialist society planning and none of them have a single ounce of real world knowledge.

For fuck sake, AOC thought a Tax break was actual money, and she is supposed to be a business major.

> one actually discusses the law
That’s a lie and you know it, the law bans sex-Ed for 9 year olds and young and bans schools from giving any sort of medication or treatment without informing the parent

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>Progressives fundamentally are seeking the same desired "output" as classical liberals, a specific conception of "freedom

They're not though, they are specifically demanding heavy handed top down government regulation for everything, which is not what Liberalism argues for.

You see, the matter at hand is unimportant.
US right-wing politics is all about the feefees.
All that matters is whether you can call someone a pedophile or a murderer.
They have no interest in good outcomes, they just need to perpetuate the charade and get paid.

No. TV hiring practices and deliberate propaganda efforts cause this.
The scientific process left alone tends to do just fine.
People turning to grifts and power fantasy is also NOT a science-specific problem.
Bosses have tried for decades to push economics as a hard science because it's a circle-jerk of rich kids telling each other that they are right and politics needs to follow their brilliant ideas.
I suggest reading Manufacturing Consent and listening to an econ 101 class to get what I mean.

>Actually discusses the Law

Do you? Because the law is pretty fucking tame by the standards on what it teaches.

Bernie owns multiple mansion, I don’t think he counts as middle class but he is definitely a stereotype for a commie in a leadership position

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The results speak for themselves.

>You're confusing the terminology
No. I'm not. You're just a confused euroshit. "Liberalism" isn't a core of right wing ideology. They hate protected classes, suspect classifications, and civil rights laws generally. Equality before the law isn't a concern of the American right.

Not that long ago (as in weeks) a sitting Republican Senator said the court decision legalizing fucking interracial marriage was wrongly decided.

Stop talking.

>Nobody really gives a shit about what people do in their own bedrooms.
Maybe this is a result of homosexuality being just SO accepted in the West, but it's really easy to forget that until nearly one generation ago, gays were actively persecuted; put to death at the worst and castrated and imprisoned for life at best. Alan Turing committed suicide despite being outstanding in his field a mere 70 years ago; there are people alive who probably remember it. Hell, in most of the world today, gays are sentenced to death with the support of the majority.
People very much do care about what others do in their own bedrooms, and have for nearly all of recorded history.

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/child-marriage-us-age-ny-b1897500.html

Americans think "sex education" as part of a health curriculum means the teacher rapes the students, because that was how they learned about sex from their uncle back in the day.
Also you have to slice off your son's foreskin because it would be rape to teach him to wash his no-no place with soap or tell him what the actual term for it is.

If we are talking about Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” bill, it’s incredibly vaguely written, so much so that a teacher answering she doesn’t have a husband but a wife when a student asks might cause a lawsuit under it.

>vaush
literally a twitch streamer not a political figure
>biden
>fauci
>soros
none of these people even pretend to be socialists

>MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE
And yet you fuckers never say anything about the child bride bill that is literally trying to be passed by Republicans

>The Scientific process left alone tends to do just fine

For easy to replicate easy to study tests, for everything else, it's literal insanity.

More like neo-nazis that everyone else kicks out eventually trickle down to any place that doesn't have moderation to keep them out. This is not a strength of neonazi beliefs, this is a result of no one else wanting to deal with their crazy bullshit.

I see the pendulum swung the other way.

Yeah, turns out their "concerns" are bullshit

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038026120934697

>This does not, however, mean, that there is a pipeline from one end of the horseshoe to the other
xtramagazine.com/power/far-right-feminist-fascist-220810

The pipeline was always there

>You're just a confused Euroshit

Ah yes, because I forgot Liberalism started with the Democratic party and isn't a political theory older than the fucking united states.

Do shut the fuck up Mutt, I'm trying to actually muster some philsophical discussion, not weigh in on your country fair pig weighing contest between the republic supporting bible fuckers and the big government quasi-socialists.

What happened Tatsuta?

>Bernie owns multiple mansion
He owns 3 houses and one's literally a dinky ass cabin. I swear to fuck you dipshits can't factcheck to save your life.

And basically every elected member of government has at least 2 residences cause they need one in their home state and DC.

Actually the florida law lets you sue for any reason or no reason at all. It's a bit fucked up honestly. Doesn't have to be about sex.

At least with Dave Sim you knew what happened to make him crazy. With Tats, it's a complete mystery.