What was Marvel thinking when they made the Marvel Mangaverse?
What was Marvel thinking when they made the Marvel Mangaverse?
Michael Roberts
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Ryan King
>Manga makes money
>I like money
Jaxson Barnes
Did the Mangaverse make money?
Jaxson Diaz
I don't know but that was probably the goal.
Gabriel Campbell
Was manga even threatening comics sales at the time?
Hunter Hernandez
Maybe but it doesn't have to have been, all that matters is that it was making enough money for Marvel to want in.
Christian Anderson
Idk but I think it was more about hopping onto a trend. The Mangaverse was in like
2000-2002 (with some more stuff that came out in 2006) anime and manga had been gaining popularity in the west pretty much since the 70s or 80s but was really picking up in the 90s and early 2000s.
Joshua Flores
The early-mid 2000s was the best time for manga in America in terms of sales up until 2020 (and 2021) started outpacing those earlier sales.
William Price
Didn't this turn Punisher into a magical girl?
Asher Morris
Idk but based if so
Oliver Allen
Justin Richardson
unironically better than his current storyline
David Ortiz
Isn't he working for the hand right now?
Nicholas Williams
You sure?
Blake Lewis
What the fuck
Evan Richardson
>Those mangos sell pretty well, don't they? Let's make some mangos, whatever that's supposed to mean.
Nathan Turner
lmao
I want badly Frank to meet this alternate version of himself.
Sebastian Ortiz
I bet that's a pretty apt description of how these books came into existence.
Did any of them actually last for a while or where they axed pretty much immediately? I've read some of it in Storytime of Pain but that couldn't have been all.
Luke Perez
It was boomer writers trying to imitate manga with what they knew about it. Hence why all stories were awful. Makes you wonder how a Mangaverse reboot would look now, since a good bunch of modern writers seem to get a knack at manga, and Marvel also employs people like Gurihiru, Sana Takeda or Takeshi Miyazawa.
Luke Smith
They recently did it again but just outsourced the whole thing. The chapters I've read where actually good
Jonathan Collins
>She lives with her aunt Mei
Isaiah Reyes
has Marvel announced anything collaborations with Shueisha? I thought the Deadpool manga was quite successful.
Angel Jones
This looks gorgeous.
Asher Long
Anime/manga peaked in Western popularity around the same time and had maximum mainstream appeal. Now it's long since plateaued and is slowly declining. It's starting to become shameful to be an anime fan again mostly because of accusations of pedophilia.
Adrian Butler
Yes
Christian Jenkins
I don't want to start another east versus west war but your comment is retarded.
Josiah Barnes
She cute
Juan Hernandez
Peni Parker?
Zachary Mitchell
They had a good idea but executed it poorly. Turning Punisher into a Geisha girl instead of a grillzed Samurai, for example.
Isaac Butler
>since a good bunch of modern writers seem to get a knack at manga
hahahahahahahahahaha
Leo Perez
Let me rephrase it, you ass: They know manga beyond Mazinger Z, Evangelion, DBZ and whatever was out in the 80s.
Andrew Gray
>Marvel has some weeb editors and writers who really love Manga
>Hire some western artists who work in manga- or anime- influenced style
>Team up the weebs and the artists to create Marvel Mangaverse
>Sells well enough to get an ongoing book for a while, then a few more minis afterwards
>Launch Mangaverse Phoenix mini under the MAX imprint, tease actual porn but have no nudity
>Tear down the whole Mangaverse and slaughter almost all the characters when it stops selling
John Long
Since we're here, how about when DC tried to do something similar?
Austin Brown
They actually had an ending? Did it interact with 616 somehow?
Nathaniel Richardson
COOMERS
Luke Foster
>Tear down the whole Mangaverse and slaughter almost all the characters when it stops selling
Ninjas killing off Doctor Strange is always funny
Zachary Allen
>Did it interact with 616 somehow?
No.
Jack Price
>Sana Takeda
I don't think she has done anything marvel for a while. Also you forgot peach momoko who is basically making colored manga for marvel right now
Jaxson Roberts
I don't know about threatening, but manga was growing rapidly and Marvel wanted a piece of the pie.
Isaac Young
They've done several over the years Deadpool is just the latest one
>tfw DC currently has a manga by Kodansha about Superman and food called Superman vs meshi that they don't translate at all nor do fans
Jordan Russell
>has Marvel announced anything collaborations with Shueisha?
No, instead they partnered with Viz and are going to make a bunch of OEL manga.
Jack Edwards
What is OEL?
Kevin Sanchez
I've always wondered why western publishers don't make any SoL series
Michael Cruz
Ame-Comi Girls was a bit different since it was cross promotion for a figure line DC had.
Andrew Hughes
Original English Language. Basically it is just westerners making comics in the style of manga.
Michael Taylor
comic writers are all miserable people, so they wouldn't make good SoL comics.
Charles Johnson
isn't Viz owned by Shueisha? do we know the creative teams on those projects yet?
Justin Ramirez
THE mistake was putting it in the fat little hands of Ben Dunn.
Ah, for a Marvel comic by Fred Perry
>She smiles at her distaff counterpart as she is about to lay down the law on an unrepentant sinner
>Frank shoots the guy in the head without changing expression
>Her shocked face now lightly spattered with blood
Wait, what is this now?
Gavin Johnson
>Wait, what is this now?
The Deadpool manga. It ran for 15 chapters in 2020 I think? Marvel is finally translating it although fans already translated most of it
Gavin Parker
Gender bended Jonny was cute
Logan Clark
They haven't said anything since the initial announcement, but when the partnership was announced Viz said the Marvel comics they made were going to be done by western creators since they are trying to make a line of western comics done in manga style.
Michael Garcia
Oh and it's by Shuueisha and all might makes a cameo appearance kek
Andrew Russell
cool
Jack Clark
out of curiosity what is the general quality of OEL manga compared to the normal manga and more traditional American comics?
Nathan Phillips
pretty sure it did. i got it all except the punisher kabuki thing. it was just too weird. the avengers being a sentai team was cool and having the vehicles turn into iron was tight.
spiderman being a ninja was cool as fuck.
Jayden Cox
any links to mangaverse phoenix? i remember my lcs was all sold out.
Christian Stewart
They do, look at stuff like Love and Rockets. If you mean superhero stuff, the SoL bits are mixed in with the cape stuff.
Owen Nelson
From my experience it tends to be a mess. The writers usually have little to no knowledge about manga or anime so they are full of what the creators perceive to be anime tropes. Art is usually pretty bad. Like those how to draw anime levels of bad.
Of course the OEL stuff I read is 2 decades old at this point, so maybe doing it again now it will turn out better than it did in the 2000s.
Brody Murphy
Look up some of those early Tokyopop OEL manga.
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Lucas Johnson
The proper term is accusations of lolicon
Mason Rivera
The Mangaverse has its own version of Ultimatum? That's unexpected.