is is wrong to spend our 20's reading away in coffee shops or libraries when we could be out partying?
Is is wrong to spend our 20's reading away in coffee shops or libraries when we could be out partying?
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Nop :3
But it is silly to think that we are automatically smarter than anyone in that picture. Someone there could be an avid reader
I like EDM :3
You can do both, you know
I'm asocial and I rather be alone than wasting my time with inferior plebians NPC.
Have sex
yeah but why would you
Come to my house babe and we figure something out ;^*
>is it wrong
DROPPED
I wish I knew how to be in these sorts of parties all the time. But I'm not rich, and the sad truth is that most clubs and parties are nothing special.
If you seriously would want to do what people in the pic are doing then just do it.
Waste your best years and destroy your health, I'm not your momma, so I don't care about it.
Better yet kill yourself before you kill the board.
The notion that anyone should do anything more for money, is of itself harmful. Capitalism is generally not the problem: exchange is going to happen no matter what.
The issue is the morals of the inhabitants of this great country we live in. I can feel them deteriorate.
this doesn’t help.
I think we could do with some better morals. Something a little higher, a little loftier. I think that money shouldn’t force anyone to do anything. That there are some things that money could never buy and if it were attempted to make it so, it would ruin humanity.
And that thing is love :3
That's why you don't fuck, sweaty.
Why does this meme mispronounce sweetie as sweaty??
Not really. I doubt I would enjoy that kind of stuff, im not much of a sensation seeker and too much stimulation annoys me. I enjoy one on one conversations and long walks.
>this doesn’t help.
>implying a nietzschean should want to help anyone but himself
I'm joking. I agree with you, actually. Just pointing out how stupid N is for challenging the question of right or wrong.
You can do whatever you want. Why are you doing something you don't want to do?
I've done enough of it to know that some of it was positive and useful, some of it wasn't. Bonding with people over silly shit like music, dancing, and some chemical enhancement can be good for you. Getting into fights, love triangles, and having to call your family to pick you up from jail isn't so great. A man past the age of 30 still living like a teenager (regardless of how regal or interesting his hedonism is) is pathetic. Do something that people will want to remember you for, nobody gives a fuck about the coolest pimp or partier even a day after he dies.
>pic related : the white thrash
Because it fits so well. Thots are stupid and can't spell. There is also implication that anybody daring to oppose thots is a loser and thus fat and thus sweaty.
what about library and coffee shop parties?
wtf does this really happen out there?
I mean, everything you can imagine has occurred out there, buddy.
>A man past the age of 30 still living like a teenager (regardless of how regal or interesting his hedonism is) is pathetic
but what if I never had any of those experiences and decided to have them in my 30's because I felt like I missed out?
You’re not missing out on anything.
These sort of experience pride themselves on being aesthetically pleasing, or looking good at first glance.
There is nothing under the surface usually. :3 and you might as well just go to a cafe or something
But yeah edm concerts are fun. I would hazard an event every now and then. I think I’ll go to another one soon enough
I hate every single one of your posts. You write in a similar pretentious way every damn time and is obvious that is you, you read like a fucking 16 years old reddit girl
I used to go to nightclubs, whorehouses and etc, and I was already reading Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Melville, Emily Dickinson, among others. I was also already writing almost daily.
One thing about pictures like that is that the place is usually dark, but the camera flash lights it all up, as if there were lightbulbs in the ceiling. It makes people seem even more ridiculous.
To my defense I can say that, due to my frágil stomach, I usually didn’t drink much and did not humiliate myself.
Depends on what you're trying to do and get out of it. 30 is an arbitrary number, every person develops differently. I'd say to try to match your maturity level to your age, which would be getting more developed in a lifelong goal or raising a family. If you do have to descend into a lot of drugs and whoring around, just know that you're on your own when shit goes south. And it will!
this thread has made me feel better about not being a partier. I guess I'll just stay in and read tonight
my idea of a good Friday night is maybe going to B&N, picking out a book, and reading it in the cafe. I see no reason at all to go to night clubs or house parties. But so many people do, probably because they feel like they'd "miss it" if they didn't
>I missed out?
what exactly do you think you're missing out on? they're just parties. they're fun at the time but that's literally it. read books.
I wonder if societies in 2095 will look at this photo in the books titled “the rise and fall of the American empire”
pretty sure it was taken in Britain
What books do Deano and the lads enjoy?
Me on the right
>not doing both
Just here to say I would love to pinch that pale little bum
>white civilization
you should be working already in your 20's
>"Why is this music so loud?"
>"Is her naked body on the bar? That's disgustingly unsanitary."
>"I should have brought ear plugs."
>"I wish I were at home reading Kafka."
what about the authors who were famously NEETs?
i've tried to do both, but I found there is a great chasm between going to parties and Partying.
i can make the contacts, i can dress the part, i can show up to the venues, i can take the drugs, still my being out of place shines through. i will be this guy. there is nowhere you can go to outrun yourself.
i wake up the next day with the same hangover as everyone else, but noone in bed beside me, no new friends, no new memories. i will spend the next weekend the same way.
You can do both of them, though. Look at Bolaños life, or Sartre's, or Camus', or any Latin American/French writer, desu. Hemingway was also doing it, as well as Fitzgerald. Heck, one of the best things about writing is that you're free from the shackles of wage slavery.
>one of the best things about writing is that you're free from the shackles of wage slavery.
you're not really free if the publisher turns down all of your ideas and makes you write what they think people will want to buy, in which case your writing career is just servitude
There are at least eight instances of violated consent in that image. Please do not leave your computer. The proper authorities will arrive shortly.
Fuck you for describing me
Had it not been for my crippling addiction to alcohol and my absolute intolerance for boredom. I would stop right this moment!
so no mere internet post could define me!
but alas, i cannot, for i am
Homosexual.
Problem is that you probably aren't really spending your 20s reading, so much as posting inane threads on Yea Forums.
>Missing out
If you think those people are actually happy, you're mistaken. Degeneracy begets depression. I know a girl that drinks and parties a lot at college, and she's constantly talking about how she hates her life. Focus on things that actually matter, and bring genuine joy; as those are what you should fear missing out on
Imagine being this much of a faggot. Why does every Kierkegaard poster on Yea Forums mosread pic related and happen to be a retarded.
Fear of missing out is a phenomenon that ruins lives.
>raising a family
>writing that as something desirable or ‘mature’
I find myself enjoying reading in coffeeshops and libraries, sometimes I do like to go out with friends and drink, but even then I generally like the more low-key get togethers. I can only take a wild night every once in a while.
I once spent 6-7 hours sitting in a library all day reading Kafka, I read all of his short fiction and The Trial in the same day. I still think back on that day in the small town brick library, sitting at an old oak table, rain drops pattering against the tall windows and the library bookshelves towering above me. I'm more fond of that memory than playing drinking games or talking to some 90 IQ girl at a bar whose name I can't recall.
Meh already qent through that phase in early 20's kind over it now at 25. Go to the occasional house or techno show and thats it when I need a fix
the ultimate argument
this
What do you mean by this and how can I combat this feeling? I get it over even the simplest things, like if there is a place online where discussion is happening, I will go back and read all of it even if it’s thousands of posts. Of course I feel it more generally too like fearing I’m wasting my youthful years by not having many friends or opportunities for fun, but I don’t act on the fear in that case.
The Greeks built Mykonos and Malia for a reason.
>I once spent 6-7 hours sitting in a library all day reading Kafka, I read all of his short fiction and The Trial in the same day. I still think back on that day in the small town brick library, sitting at an old oak table, rain drops pattering against the tall windows and the library bookshelves towering above me. I'm more fond of that memory than playing drinking games or talking to some 90 IQ girl at a bar whose name I can't recall.
Gave me the feels, brother, the good ones.
Stay strong user, you just described all of the board, the problems we all share.
Literally, this entire thread is me.
>spend 20s-30s being party animal.
>best booze, best dope, best parties, best babes.
>also studying hard/reading to develop career plans.
>getting older, can't hang with late parties, friends getting married and leaving party scene.
>wind up high functional alcoholic/substance abuser.
>go thru rehab
>not partying anymore, totally sober
>books, coffee shops, libraries, still there for me though.
lit friends are better than club/bar friends.
Contrary to masses' beliefs, your 20's aren't supposed to be the years where you have to party, have fun and live freely. They are a fucking important foundation for the rest of your life. The years where you can learn good habits, still pursue your passions and hobbies. Granted they are the years where you have to explore and try things out, hence the importance of decision making and action (what a lot of us here lack I suppose since everything related to the external world is basically our duality)
If you spend your 20's constantly wasting money on noose, pursuing no interests other than "hanging out" "weed" and the everlasting "traveling with friends" what are you going to do in your 30's?
No way in hell most people will start taking care of themselves when they remained in the Garden for so long.
>but what if I never had any of those experiences and decided to have them in my 30's because I felt like I missed out?
Most people start "party" drinking because they think it's cool. They've acculturated a certain contemporary ideal. That is, the best things come by loosing control and discipline over yourself. Impressionable teenagers do not start it because they enjoy it, they do it to fit in.
In truth, there's nothing cool about alcohol or partying. Excessive alcohol consumption is terrible for your health. Regular consumption of most drugs and alcohol provably stunt your intellectual growth. The other aspects are the shallowest kinds of experiences, socially and otherwise.
And seriously, in terms of the passive drugs, how many stoners and LSD users do you think are legitimately out of the box thinkers? Most of them do nothing with their lives or their minds, except parrot bullshit drug slogan they read on the internet. The types of people who thrive after using drugs like that would've done so anyway. The actual effects of the drugs are counterproductive to the kind of people they want to be.
You do not have a lot of time in this planet. What you like doing is a reflection of who you are. You don't have to be famous or rich. But you can at least develop your conscious and rational and virtuous self.
The reason you feel like you missed it is because you're told it's cool. That'll make you a boring person. Focus on what's rational, and then what you want.
If every time you go out like this, and you wish you were at home reading, even playing video games, or having an interesting conversation instead, doesn't it show that you only care about this for the appearances?
You can find different friends.
Literally the only reason I ever wanted to party since the beginning of puberty was because I wanted to fuck pussy. Once I figured out how to get girls outside of that environment it's use for me diminished. It has always been boring, I understood that from the first house party I went to my freshman year of HS, but I was horny. I don't give a fuck anymore lmao, wtf is the point of drinking in a hot room surrounded by sweaty dudes, it's just not fun. So many alternative outlets exist nowdays
In your 30s you get a sweet and adorable wife and make kids with?
No?
sweety-posting was originally a part of lefty meme-culture aimed at passive-agressively patronizing the person addressed as such. it was soon re-appropriated and used to lampshade posts that used this type of lingo.
in recent times sweaty has become popular as a counter-meme to this development. it is an attempt at negating the negation and returning to square one by creating an association between second-gen sweety-posters and the image of the sweaty neckbeard virgin.
this but ironically
social conditioning
That’s what you do in your 20s. You don’t make the kids in your 20s though, not if you want an enjoyable life
There's a section in Plato's Republic in which someone complains to Socrates about getting older and expresses anxiety about losing out on the hedonistic pleasures associated with youth. He's sad that he won't be able to party like he once did. Socrates replies that if you never gave into those impulses in the first place you wouldn't find yourself longing for it. FOMO existed even in ancient times.
Socrates has a point that you won't have to worry about chasing some higher high and one day losing the youthful equipment to do so if you decline to indulge to begin with and instead invest your time pursuing more lasting goals.
At the same time injecting a bit chaos into the routines of life is occasionally what you need. Yet that supposes you don't make a habit of partying, otherwise you attempt to break up the staleness will itself become stale.
I realize that some people just hate thinking and want an escape, but for some who party too much, it becomes the they find they must flee. I also realize that partying is a sort of soft skill and if you're just a little too aspie it just won't be enjoyable.
god i wish that were me
imagine having a daughter and knowing that this is her future regardless of how well you raise her.
>Memewarfare intensifies
the west is beyond salvation, brother
>There is also talk about being deceived by life or in life, but the one who in his self-deception deceived himself out of living—his loss is irreparable.
*hits pipe*
The rain drops were pattering against the library bookshelves?
this is really well written I hope you write often
What would you rather she be cooped up and repressed? Flirtation and exhibitionism are signs of strength in a woman. Or are you so sheltered as to think any hint of open sexuality inevitably leads to some kind of abusive gang bang?
This is the most cucked comment I've seen in this thread so far. Those are most definitely not the strengths of a woman.
>I must either be an oppressed house wife or a complete slut
>there is no other option
>hint of open sexuality
she's lying drunkenly naked on a bar top. You can be comfortable with your sexuality without falling into degeneracy, you bitch
Not 'the strengths of a woman', but a game, a test of inner strength.
It's not being a 'complete slut' to tease men. The woman who understands her sexual worth and plays with it, plays with power over men, rides right up against the wall of total inhibition, the threat of sexual violence, and maintains, plays the room all hers, has men crowding, grovelling all around her, but keeps the rules her own and returns intact, that's a game of predatory strength.
well yea, but this woman is naked, lying on a bar, in front of at least 20 people, getting caressed by drunk dudes. this is absolute whore behavior.
Why are we glorifying having en.wikipedia.org
?
Just sounds like playing hard to get
>is is wrong to spend our 20's reading away in coffee shops or libraries when we could be out partying?
To each their own, I say. I'd rather spend my 20's reading and writing than partying and going to bars, though. Literature is a time intensive endeavor, and you get back what you put into it. If you're truly passionate about literature, you've answered your own question.
>thinks he's Yea Forums
>pursues a life of degeneracy, not one of Catholicism and celibacy
Yeah, that's going to be a yikes from me.
Socrates doesn’t say anything of the sort you dumb incel. Socrates defines hedonism as not a good definition of ‘happiness’, nowhere does he say that you shouldn’t go out and party when you’re young.
>personality disorders
Who gets to decide these deviant disorders? And what kind of 'ordered personality' are they implicitly creating? How can one order of personality serve the particular needs of every individual? Could it be that the academy's 'psychologists' and 'objective scientists' are also social planners? Could it be that the ordered personality serves not the various needs of the individual (impossible) but in its concrete prescription of behavior it serves the concrete ends of some ideological goal?
Yeah you’re right.
That guy is a fucking virgin or something idk LOL
You - 1000000000
Him - 0
Oh yeah I’m :3
You know you can get decent grades and have a social life. It's called moderation you antisocial fags, stop watching cringy american college movies.
>is is wrong to spend our 20's reading away in coffee shops or libraries when we could be out partying?
No, partying is for your teenage years and very early twenties. I feel so bad for these 25 year olds who are only just now flirting with cannabis, mdma and all that shit. You should've been over that shit long ago.
>I feel so bad for these 25 year olds who are only just now flirting with cannabis, mdma and all that shit.
do these people exist?
sure, i've met a few.
I never tried anything else than weed.
No, she's trading (or sabotaging) long term success for short term gain. She knows she has a modicum of beauty and sexual desirability, and she's freely advertising it. A man will naturally view her as a bad companion, therefore closer to an object, because she's proved herself to be untrustworthy to maintain intimacy. Chastity in a mate proves that 1. you have a better chance of successful and sustained reproduction (the kids will be yours), and 2. you can trust the person intimately as a partner, for mutual psychological needs.
She's not strong, she's selling herself short. If she does find a decent longterm partner, he's getting ripped off, unless he's OK with it, then he's just a fool.
...
What are the odds she's looking for a serious partner here?
it's not like a requirement to catch them all, either.
But she will, one day. Humans have an instinct to look for such a relationship. Very few care not to, and they're usually celibates, and formerly, that's the type who became monastics and priests.
kek
Both lead to extreme unhappiness and regret
I go to parties but none of them are the kinky kind. Its just drink, talk, some people do drugs, maybe go to a club then kebab and home.
north-west european atlantoid detected
accurate desu
but if you're alive you can't not live
I can't see how one is better than the other. It seems both experiences are subjective.
>grades
Pleb detected
Doing drugs like mdma under 25 while your brain is still developing is braindead retarded, what you'll become once you're older
>Doing drugs like mdma under 25 while your brain is still developing is braindead retarded
take a look at this nerd.
Cant say I'm looking forward to the inevitable divorce
>Doing drugs like mdma over 25
there is a time and place for drugs and it's called teenagehood
I'm hearing a lot of "partying is wasting your time when you could be productive" in this thread, but I don't see how becoming a functional member of society is any superior. Unless your elon musk levels of contributing to society and you leave a permanent improvement I don't see the point. Seems to me to just do what gives you the most pleasure/minimizes your own suffering, be it partying or reading.
>Yea bruh the best time for drugs is when you appreciate and benefit from it least and it damages your brain most. Trust me man this is the correct way
I'll pass. Anything beyond weed and alcohol as a teenager is pathetic and a sign of a weak mind who falls to social conditioning or intentionally hinders themselves in development
i bet you were the guy that passed by the smokers in high school fake coughing really loudly and passive-aggresively.
Aussie actually
Partying these days is just a bunch of obsidian farmers and adult babies
>Unless your elon musk levels of contributing to society
You're overestimating him, and celebrities at large. The reason you're assuming people like him change the world is memetic: it's because people discuss them as such.
>you leave a permanent improvement I don't see the point. Seems to me to just do what gives you the most pleasure/minimizes your own suffering, be it partying or reading.
If you wanted to leave a permanent mark, I suppose it's your discretion to how. But we all leave a permanent mark on society. Most of the world moves through the small decisions of individuals. How you decide to live will affect you and the others around you, and that will impact the future generations, and the world at large in ways you can't truly understand.
The best way to positively change the world is to change yourself, and maybe you can change others around you, and then maybe, beyond that.
are you brain damaged from all the mdma you did before 25?
Nope because they don't even cross my mind. I bet you're the guy who is so egocentric about his drug use everybody's opinion on the matter is taken as a personal insult because your whole life revolves around the relation to whatever current pill you're popping and how it makes you feel. Bro you aren't a cool guy making the nerds and stuck up people angry and jealous, the world just laughs at you at first, then feels pity
no, unless you are a retard about it mdma won't give you brain damage.
nah, that never really was me and definitely isn't me now. i just figure people who still use terms like "peer pressure" in relation to drugs is a fucking nerd who never really was in a position to be peer pressured in the first place.
brain damaged and in denial. uh oh
>tfw in the time it took you to shitpost on Yea Forums for 5-7 years, hundreds of millions of YOUNG FUN HIP COOOOOL NORMIES went from "young" to "old"
>tfw in that short span of time, hundreds of millions of normies (and especially roasties) went from being exciting happy fun party animals to being "that tired-looking person shuffling around the grocery store"
HAHAHAHA! IT ONLY LASTS A FEW YEARS, AND THEN IT'S OVER FOREVER!!!
NORMIES BET EVERYTHING, THEIR WHOLE SOUL, ON LIVING UP THEIR TEENS AND EARLY TWENTIES, AND THEN THEY JUST BECOME SAD OLD FRUMPS WITH NO IDENTITY AND NO REAL HOBBIES! TIME MAKES FOOLS OF US ALL! ROT AND SUFFER, NORMIE GARBAGE!!! WITHER AWAY FOR DECADES AND TELL PEOPLE ON YOUR SAD DYING SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS ABOUT HOW KANYE WEST WAS POPULAR 17 YEARS AGO, BACK WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG AND FUN!! WHAT'S THAT? 17 YEARS WENT BY IN WHAT SEEMS LIKE 5? GUESS YOU SHOULD HAVE INVESTED YOUR SPIRIT IN SOMETHING MORE THAN KANYE WEST AND SUCKIN' CUM OUT OF DUDES FROM A CELL PHONE APPLICATION THEN!
ENJOY OLD AGE YOU PENSIONLESS FRIENDLESS HOBBILESS ERSTWHILE HEDONIST! I WILL MAKE A FORTUNE PLOWING YOUR UNWANTED BODIES INTO DITCHES WITH A TRACTOR WHEN YOU HAVE NO FAMILY TO PAY FOR YOUR FUNERAL AND MORTUARY SERVICES! MY FUNERAL WILL BE FILLED WITH AUTISTIC FRIENDS AND FELLOW TRAVELLERS! EVERYONE ON Yea Forums IS INVITED TO MY FUNERAL!
I used to "go out" but got disgusted with myself and all others so I took up boxing instead
Power is the greatest afrodisiac
based
Exactly, so if that guy appreciates reading more, why get bent up about it? Some people don’t get fomo for partying and wild living, they just like doing their thing
What grammatical mistake is this?
I used to wonder this and still feel a bit chained by my fate. but I think a lot of the hedonists have the same regret they wished they had passions, hobbies, and interests. validity of regret should be more than 0 but less than it would pain us. its just one of those things, youre alive and can correct course.
Literally me, 3/4 of those have ran through my head before while I’ve been out after friends roped me into something
You could always party alone with crack and hookers
yep but we all have a hard-wired need to make a difference and be elon musk-like. very few can even hope to do that. most can be under the illusion of their own significance.
then wait till you come to the objective realization that having kids is the biggest impact you can ever have on this earth above even the elon musk sort of achievement. it's gambling as the unknown variable has value.
due to the butterfly effect and future impact. the mental gymnastics that your kids will statistically end up useless is outdone by the evolutionary implication, of having hundreds, thousands of descendents; ie their suffering is acceptable since we subconsciously know all of this is building to something and suffering is an acceptable collateral damage to its outcome.
love you brother
Although sexual intercourse can be sweaty at times, I do not think that's a valid reason to avoid it.
This is why we have the Oxford Comma
Is that what it needs?
>I still think back on that day in the small town brick library, sitting at an old oak table, rain drops pattering against the tall windows, the library bookshelves towering above me.
I wrote the original post and notice the wonky reading thanks to you. I was thinking this could also work
>I still think back on that day in the small town brick library, sitting at an old oak table, rain drops pattering against the tall windows and the library bookshelves were towering above me.
Not sure what would be best but I agree it looks funky
Est-ce que tu es français?
>At some club
>Turn to the girl next to me
>"It's dark, i can't see you, i can't hear you because the music is too loud, everything is overpriced, why the fuck would we come here to socialize?"
>She just looked at me and laughed nervously
What did she mean by this?
I WASTED MY TWENTIES READING BOOKS WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAVING SEX
I'LL NEVER GET THAT TIME BACK
>Marxist retards try to negate a negation, not realizing that a double negation is not equivalent to the identity relation in their own Hegelian logic
the absolute state of leftists
Based, I freak out normies like this sometimes too... The life of a cyborg
>Unpack
This word absolutely triggers me at this point. Whenever you hear it you just know it's going to be followed by some psuedointellectual drivel.
Is this what Yea Forums has turned into? This thread could be transplanted to /r9k/ and it wouldn't stand out in the slightest.
I'm 23, am I too old to try anything more than weed? I've only kissed a girl at this point, I'm such a fucking autistic loser.
no, you're doing it wrong
>At some club
>Turn to the girl next to me
>grunt loudly like a gorilla and grab her
>she swoons instantly and passionately kisses me
the trick is to shed your humanity through alcohol
Read on your phone with kindle app or something (there's apps for specific books with the whole text or archives.com) and then you can read in stealth mode anywhere all the time
nothing better than sniffing coke off a whores ass
Me on the right.
Yea Forums has been /r9k/-lite for a while now. Actual insightful threads and posts get maybe a few posts, while obvious bait threads like this get all of the attention.
Even typing up this post is just perpetuating the issue
Partying is probably worth experiencing for most people but when you get over that phase you realise it’s not really that great
im just gonna say fuck it and join the army as a special forces guy and just do that til my knees stop working. nothing makes me feel anything but hanging out with the boys and shooting guns. why the fuck do i have a college degree
hope you're fit as fuark and have a record cleaner than a nun's asshole, SF is no joke
never even had a parking ticket, been lifting and running since middle school
I am sick and tired of this glorification of partying, drugs, and degeneracy that we have taken as the norm in our "progressive " society. My entire generation has become a slave to their senses and primitive impulses.
Most of the people in college campuses who demand free college spend their time shit faced or hungover pursuing a useless degree. I myself, live in a college dorm, and evidently see the filth and outright absolute lack of self-respect people have on themselves. We have abandoned most or all of our morals and values with a constant acting of 'PC'. We have no sense of respect towards anything. We can't take up on any responsibility on anything.
Don't come to me with this BS that we're "young" and this is the "best time of your life" to justify this Sodomic culture. One hundred years ago, people aged the same as the parkland kids came back from fighting World War Fucking 1. Less than 75 years ago, 20 year olds were killing REAL fucking nazis. For most of human history, being at your 20s was being at your mid-life and peak. This is the time of your life where you are supposed to define yourself as a person and plan your legacy.
I don't give a shit about your prince of darkness edgelord Nietzsche quotes or modernist ideas. They might impress people at coffee houses but, they're not actual useful ideas about life.
who cares retard
>muh 100 years ago
Yea what about ancient Rome though
Stupid incel stop trying to live in the past and acting as if you are morally superior to others because you sit behind a computer and judge people you see in pictures
Absolutely pathetic you should be ashamed more than the thot thay shits her pants at a club
“To get up in the morning, in the fullness of youth, and open a book--now that's what I call vicious!”
>“To get up in the morning, in the fullness of youth, and open a book--now that's what I call vicious!”
He meant this sarcastically right? This is when Nietzsche's railing against the scholar and all that?
Even Plato talked about this, that one can take an interest in philosophy, the arts, sciences ect, when they are younger but primarily should take an interest in their body and social life for the gifts of youths will not last. Once the elder years have arrived you can become totally invested within it. Although I admit I am somewhat hypocritical in this respect for I divulge myself into philosophy, the arts, sciences ect, just as much as I workout, meet women, meet friends, social life, ect.
But you shall at least know that you had ability to do, and to know that you did.
party, and you will regret it; don't party and you will also regret it; party or don't party, you will regret it either way.
Kireksgaurd qute has already been posted.
That'd be a great outcome yes.
At least you don't wake up every morning and glimpse at your beer gut and your balding head because you have the physical condition of an old man and nothing beside TV and social media.
I know, same for me. I don't want to find someone knowing that I will divorce her, there is no point.
This isn't building to anything. There is no end game. We are the means to some other things end. We have as much meaning as a spider unless we construct our own meaning.
Have you ever looked at pics saying the end of hre or end of tsar empire or any other empire?
>is is wrong to spend our 20's reading away in coffee shops or libraries when we could be out partying?
FALSE DICHOTOMY.
I CHOOSE....
>NEITHER
One has to start as early as possible with the arts and sciences and philosophy to actually ever get good at it, though.
>as early as possible
>to get good at it
1. everything is as early as possible 2. early as possible is subjective 3. To get good at it depends on the person themselves, theoretically they could get good at it at 80.
time to forge a body of IRON and a mind of STEEL brothers, do you feel it? I FEEL IT
IMMENENTISE NOT THE ESCHATON BUT THE KALI YUGA AND RAGNAROK TOO
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You won't ever be able to play Paganini's 24 caprices or whatever example we want to use if you start at age 80, but you might be able to do it if start at age 12.
Plato was a cuck
I disagree hell there might be some guy who can learn to at 80. But that's besides the point which is that one should not neglect the gifts apart of youth. I agree one "should" start as young as possible but it is not per say necessary,
In what way?
No. Partying is a colossal waste of time and dangerous. Your 20s are a tremendously important time. Your brain and character are still developing, AND you are at peak physical condition for your life. It is the absolute most important decade of a person's time on Earth. Your 20s, and to a degree your late teens and early 30s, are the time when you should be doing the most reading, the most self-reflection, and the most self-correction.
The hedonistic mantra of youthful excess is what destroys civilizations. It is the exact opposite of truth. A man in his 20s should struggle to be as diligent, as literate, as austere and as dignified as possible, because the pattern that you set in your 20s will ossify in your 30s. There are no do-overs. You cannot simply decide to become a new person when you're 38. You have to live with the decisions you made when you were 25.
So I absolutely and wholeheartedly and without reservation encourage people in that age group to read, to explore ideas and to travel. I do not encourage them to drink, to party, to carouse or do drugs. I do this because I am 40 now. I wasted my youth on excess and degeneracy and I have to live with it. Time only moves one way.
Make the best of your time is a banal truism precisely because it is so manifestly obvious, but somehow people continually fail to follow it.
What do you think is the best time of life to get a woman? I have youth on my side but all I want is a girl
Honestly I don't know. Back when I was a kid getting married at 20 was pretty normal, nobody does that these days. Financial instability and the cultural ennui that dominates the age makes it hard to find anything close to stability.
I'd say wait until you're in your 30s unless you've got your affairs very much in order. Never allow the desire for a woman to overwhelm your reason. It's honestly not what it's cracked up to be. Having a woman means you have to be around a woman most of the time. It gets tedious. It's worth it, but it does get tedious.
>I have youth on my side but all I want is a girl
Then get one.
>boohooo I'm depressed
then don't be.
Everything wrong in your life you can change, just go out and do what must be fixed, ask a girl out if it didn't work then either change your tactic or lower your standards or heighten them if you'r too good looking like myself so girls get nervous and walk away and say fuck off you ugly shit, they're just scared of beauty they actually love me.
What are you going to tell your future wife you did in your 20s? How will you react when she says she went to parties and clubs?
Depression is pretty fucking awful, but a lot of it is the result of substance abuse and ennui. Also, the failure of life to live up to the expectations that media and our culture has made it up to be.
The best thing for the human soul and to escape depression is to read, to meditate on what you read, and to enjoy a healthy life.
I worked with a young man who was smart, fit, and tough. Sharp as a whip, could crack walnuts with one hand. He started drinking socially, then alone, then all the time. A few years later, he had headaches that never went away. He drank more to make them stop, just temporarily. Threw himself off a building back in 2009. I know it sounds like a Captain Planet PSA but it's the damned truth. Degeneracy only hurts you. By the end, you just want it to stop, thinking about suicide becomes a casual thing, a conversation in the back of your head all the time.
"Is it bad enough today for me to kill myself?" you ask. Sooner or later, the answer is yes.
>Both experiences are subjective
Uh, sure, but both are human. So long as there is some core humanity that exists to all people there are some experiences that will be generally better than others. Memories that are sincere, help us develop as people and have upside potential are I think are the best kind of memories and experiences.
Read comment chain, I just like to use their bullshit tactics against them, at least in shitposting threads where nothing of value is lost.
I can get girls easy enough. Problem is keeping them. It ends up like Werther, difference being I've actually slept with Charlotte already
hot, right??
based and redpilled
i am serious about making le babbies. >:[
In the second example the rain drops (which are pattering against x and y) are what towers over you.
They're garden path sentences user
I consider being able to learn stuff quickly a gift of youth. If you put that off until you're old, you're missing out. People solidify in their lives and habits after a certain age, even the brain loses almost all of its neuroplasticity. Not to mention the physical limitations of your hands if we are still going with the musical example.
i can imagine some really scary things
is that riley raid?
>tfw you realise that by that standard only like 1 in 50 women is worth marrying.
How did we fucked up this bad?
So i had made love with my waifu?
>Depression is pretty fucking awful, but a lot of it is the result of substance abuse and ennui. Also, the failure of life to live up to the expectations that media and our culture has made it up to be.
Meh just don't be depressed.
>The best thing for the human soul and to escape depression is to read, to meditate on what you read, and to enjoy a healthy life.
Nope I disagree just don't be depress.
>I worked with a young man who was smart, fit, and tough. Sharp as a whip, could crack walnuts with one hand. He started drinking socially, then alone, then all the time. A few years later, he had headaches that never went away. He drank more to make them stop, just temporarily. Threw himself off a building back in 2009. I know it sounds like a Captain Planet PSA but it's the damned truth. Degeneracy only hurts you. By the end, you just want it to stop, thinking about suicide becomes a casual thing, a conversation in the back of your head all the time.
I drank too much and if anything I felt better, although not getting hangovers is probably the reason.
>"Is it bad enough today for me to kill myself?" you ask. Sooner or later, the answer is yes.
Modern Man lacks meaning in life. Read Modern man in search of a soul by Carl Gustav Jung.
seems like the only way to have some kind of enjoyable experience in your 20s, if you arent partying, you arent meeting easy-going people or girls, and you arent soaking in the kind of atmosphere that welcomes younger people over older.
I never, literally never, go out except for uni classes and exams.
Don't do it. Don't do weed either. There is nothing to be gained.
Taking drugs, partying like a wild animal, these things aren't signs of a great character.
>easy going people
you mean people with shit lives and no passion? lol
you should meet people with good character, passions and interests. People who are strong of mind and good at heart.
retarded post
this is just a lack of confidence and prevalence of pessimism in your mindset. you probably blend right in and could be waking up next to a regret, but you don't want that it seems.
you people on this board are hilarious autists, just nothing more than surface level judgement of actions over anything delving into people or reasoning to do these things. people do the same things for different reasons. one thing I can guarantee is that it is a saturday and the vast majority of the losers on this board are planning to spend their time sitting on the computer tonight.
"good character" by your merits are subjective and most likely you are basing this off your couple of experiences in a nightclub alone or with people you hated. Some of us enjoy the company of people we choose to hang out with. how do you correlate "no passion" to "going to parties". youre just as shallow as the people you judge
I have a great live and am passionate, and I'm easy going.
literally everyone I met who was into drugs, binge drinking, frequent partying and all that was fucked up or people with dead end lives. It's just the norm. I have a few distant friends who do all that whom I get along with, them I don't mind.
You're a good man, then. Most club rats don't fit your type.
partying is really lame actually.
Same.
>Flirtation and exhibitionism are signs of strength in a woman.
No man with a 3 digit IQ would want this in any of the women near him.
I wish I was that girl
But in reality I'm closer to the guy talking to her
>Hurr durr things were much better when we had to die in Ypres for aristocrats or to make sure American arms dealers got their money back.
>Hurr durr everyone in WWI was right out of Léon Gautier.
>Hurr durr life milestones should always be fixed according to 1700s factory lifestyles.
Retard.
The hottest thing a woman can do is dress appropriately for the weather.
based
>i can take the drugs
You reek of weakness and social manipulation. I imagine you’ll try to argue this is some way but that ill-formed defense is the cause of all your suffering. Accept the truth that no amount of drugs and partying will make you truely happy. Accept the truth that finding friends by doing things you don’t enjoy will find you friends you won’t enjoy.
another buffoon. kys
She probably didn't hear you and just guessed that you said something funny.
I fucking hate that I fall for bait so easily
like who? the majority work and wrote
Actually, it is. Every single great man in history has partied like a motherfucker, it's a sign of being an integrated normal human being. Humans have always partied, ever since the days of the african savannah where we danced around the fire eating the fresh kill of the day all night long.
Just because no women want to touch you doesn't mean they can't enjoy sex lmao
These are profoundly insightful posts. Thanks for sharing, user. Hopefully some of the younger anons here take heed to your wisdom.
>t.24 year old who sometimes wonders if spending all his free time reading and exercising is worth it, despite the lack of social life
you're not supposed to socialize, you're supposed to rhytmically grind your greasy dick into their disgusting asses until you find one that will take you back to their messy apartment that smells like catpiss
wait.. do you guys really go to libraries and coffee shops to read? why not just stay in and read
this. If you really think about it the act of mating is disgusting. You rub genitals until liquids are exchanged
these
i liked college parties because the dynamic was the same but the girls were mostly clean
When your parents or whoever pay for college, they’re paying for an EXPERIENCE for you, that’s why it was so much more fun.
The question then arises: what is the meaning of that? If I can observe better social dynamics in places where money is abundant, why? Are the obligations of reality so insidious that it deterioratesour social ties without them? Is reality so aesthetic, so unbelievably morose, that we cannot go one second without being drawn back into some superficial ideal of what we’re ‘supposed’ to be?
Maybe that’s not a bad thing, but what if what we’re supposed to be is sick and twisted, like how it’s common parlance to view financial institutions as corrupt and usurious where once they were thought to help run the economy smoother.
Just some food for thought :3
The atmosphere is nicer
>imagine having a daughter
A Werther who fucks is a marginal improvement, good user!
Sometimes far easier getting lost in a book when you're surrounded by a sea of people and a busy city than it is getting lost in one when you're in a room with total silence. I like the ambience.
That's us guys.
how else are people going to know i read
I have no opinion here one way or the other but I'm young and I'm from a metropolitan, global city and I can tell you that actively seeking out festivals or raves or what not isn't exactly a universal. "Normalfags" who do this and have casual sex lives probably aren't in the majority of people from 18-25. In my (admittedly small) social circle, pretty much no one is a hedonist at all and all the more socialized, extroverted kids from high school ended up being bogged down by responsibilities at work or in post-secondary or have become increasingly focused on long-term, monogamous relationships and pursuing niche hobbies.
lol nope, all these "great men" of history vary wildly between themselves as much as they vary from the general population. I cannot imagine veritable spergs like Carl XI or Claudius or even Bonaparte being amused at a party. Some, like Alcibiades, Alexander or Cesare Borgia would have wanted nothing more than a never ending rave.
Ever since the division of labour and creation of social-strata, the only universal for human life has been different strokes for different folks.
>Carl XI
dammit I meant Carl XII, the virgin warrior-king of Sweden.
desu I'm scared of running into Yea Forumsizens in public who will judge me for what I read
Literally what are you doing on Yea Forums
You're probably right about him being a massive sperg though.
based lunatic
Source?
on the beach? owo
No, only sex on the beach
brings nothing to mind except Sam Harris...the gigapseud.
You must be European
No
I won't shy away from saying I'm from Toronto. But I think a lot of cities would be like this, especially in Europe and East Asia where maturation takes longer for kids, it's easier to live with your parents longer and post-secondary education is like an extended highschool.
Large hyper-social gatherings like this make me uncomfortable
Amen, brother
Sorry but I you using that smiley ironically? It's making uncomfortable.
nothing to be proud of, champ
Is this post supposed to be ironic?
have sex posters are retarded, but that image is pathetic
Why am I laughing so hard at this
>dumb incel
Why would you deliberately sabotage your own argument by phrasing it like a woman? Argument by "muh holes" is literally an automatic loss. You conceded the argument before you even made it.
It's a factual statement, and the reason that you find it "pathetic" is that you are susceptible to literally the worst, most womanly and illogical of argumentative tactics.
australia basically imported the culture of north west europe i suppose, im from rural nsw and am made up of german farmers, english criminals, and irish migrants
This is the thread I always wanted but never knew to think about. Feels good knowing I’m not alone.
BASED
its not wrong but theres no reason you can/shouldnt do both, went clubbing yesterday and had fun for the first time at a club in years and ended up having a girl ask for my number. feelsgood bros
Greatest post I've ever seen
>It's not being a 'complete slut' to tease men. The woman who understands her sexual worth and plays with it, plays with power over men, rides right up against the wall of total inhibition, the threat of sexual violence, and maintains, plays the room all hers, has men crowding, grovelling all around her, but keeps the rules her own and returns intact, that's a game of predatory strength.
While I'd agree that is the optimal egoistic behavior, I don't think that is what is happening in the image, I'm pretty sure this is raw hedonism, not some underlying strategic power play.
also, the majority of people are not sociopaths and do not tailor all of their actions toward some strategic end
>is is wrong to spend our 20's reading away in coffee shops or libraries when we could be out partying?
If you have even basic time management you can do both
>but noone in bed beside me, no new friends, no new memories
Too real
based
let me know when you die so I can attend
Because while this post is edgy, it is that perfect level of edgy that lives within kinship to fellow human beings, but only those whom are worth association; this is only one world view, as Yea Forums is an in-group that is biased, somewhat pretentiously, towards those that do not understand the value of culture or share that same level of cultural knowledge.
Herein we find individuals with no understanding of, for example, Deleuze's value in eloquently synthesizing together ideas most never come to grasp in a lifetime of consciousness. I cannot gripe with this modality of discourse, but once we gripe with the selective understandings of those underneath us, what should we make of ourselves who know so little? Big fish eat little fish, but the human standing outside the pond does not participate, and should we not achieve this, rather than mucking around in the water and mud, for this is closer to truth, as it captures more of the epistemological ontology?
What more does this world have in store for me tomorrow, is the question I want answers for, more so than any opinions and dick measuring. How do I translate a love for all things into a love for a specific thing, and channel my appreciation of inquiry into the appreciation of inquiry into a single subject for sixty hours a week?
I have no friends to party with and no social skills to mingle.
put me in the screencap
>kafka
nah
I went back through my university night club photo albums from 2009-2012, and there are pictures of girls with their asses hanging out, making out with random guys, flashing their tits etc. A lot of them are still tagged and it's interesting to see they're mostly settled down, so many marriage photos when you click through to their profiles
Glad I settled down with someone that doesn't drink
this is a great post. thank you user
does anyone else find it weird that rather being defined as "excited about the opportunities of life" or some shit it's instead "fear of missing out"? like people don't want to do stuff because they want to do it, they just don't want to be seen as the person who didn't do it?
Beautiful post, catharsis like this is only seen in the very moment the author shatters the shackles of social norms and rolls around in the mud of true artistic freedom for the first time.
How is going to a party living like a teenager?
Sure maybe going to shitty clubs that play dance remixes of top 40 songs is a bit pathetic. But parties and going to gigs are activities available to all age. Also if you're doing something so great you'll inevitably be invited to parties
You've instilled the a preconceived belief that everyone but you acquires a mate - In both meaning of the word - but that couldn't be further from the truth. You're too disconnected to register that a lot of the so-called 'normies' partake in such experiences. Your post reeks of self pity coupled with narcissism which never go well together. Go unwind at the Sauna.
Why are you people so afraid of your own freedom that you decide to chastise everyone with your bullshit? I pity all of you, cowards.
There's nothing transcendent to sex; more experience in sex and love can only harm you if you're too autistic to live with a person nor yours nor anyone's slave morality can hold back. Any love any of you could give a woman is deceitful and manipulative, assuming you feel any love at all.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BASED AND REDPILLED
irrevocably based, Yea Forumsbro
it'd be an honor to visit your funeral with my bros
Enjoy your dayjob bitch
>20s.
Partying stops after college and you become a boring office drone who hates everything.
Yes very wrong
Clubs are so garbage. Everyone knows it. People only go because other people do, which is baffling. Pubs > clubs
I'll be there, user
I will attend, my nigga.
I have been to a few parties, not as intense as OP, but pretty intense. I realized that after the first and second time that those events really aren't for me. The girls who usually attend those things are thrill seekers, no judgement. I'm a pretty boring guy so I want a girl who is gonna gel with my lifestyle.
this post brought to you by a guy who feels enlightened after a cursory skim of a few books
I went to a wrestling thing the other day (as in fake wrestling) and a bunch of hip kids were there. I didn’t feel like a complete loser because some of the crowd looked like they could be juggalos but yeah I felt like shit anyway. Coming from a supreme lack of confidence and maybe a dose of self loathing.
The slut girl that was with a guy I was there with started grinding her ass on me at one point. I leaned in and would have my hand (in my jacket pocket) against her ass. Everyone was shoulder to shoulder. Then her boyfriend started noticing and another guy I was there with tapped my shoulder and shook his head. Idk what it was about but I assume to stop groping the girl, so I just stopped.
I realized 3 girls behind me had been watching this.
To my left was a guy and two girls. One he seemed to be with and the other seemed like her friend. The one he was with started doing the same thing. Grinding her ass on me. I have a Groucho Marx moment but lean in anyway. In the back of my mind I’m thinking “why can’t she be normal and not a weird slut and enjoy the night” while also feeling like I can’t back this confidence up enough to turn it into anything anyway.
The guy she is with notices immediately and gets in the way, moving her away. Then her friend literally does the same thing and he gets in between us so I just stop.
Meanwhile I feel like I’m obligated to feign entertainment to the wrestling thing. I end up just leaving early.
The light at the end of the tunnel is Scenes. I figure you can find a scene where you at least look the part, continue going to the same venue or couple of venues, and eventually meet good friends that way. Then from there, women.
>Go to some clubs in brooklyn
>has those gay ass safe space signs and posters with a zillion no isms and phobias all over it
Thought this shit didnt happen irl
save me a seat
FOMO and being excited about the opportunities in life are two different things. Do you think that just because a word exists for something that it has to apply to everyone?
If your 20’s are formative years for the rest of your life, then yeah. Not having a social life sounds like a problem.
based
hes right tho
how based can one man be
Well, I'm homeless
Maybe your time would be better spent working on a career
Nah nigga, I dont give a fuck
I just wanna read
I honestly feel like all of this has no soul. its all so consumerized and standardized. Living the same week everyday with petty drama and meaninglessness. Capitalism guts everything.
idk why you get the hate, i agree with
>This is the time of your life where you are supposed to define yourself as a person and plan your legacy.
based and underrated
I know a guy that works security at salesforce (as in computer security. Think Mr.Robot. The guy I know also thinks of himself as a hacker) that used to be homeless. I’m sure he’s getting paid 6 figures and he doesn’t have a degree.
I’m just saying, you don’t have to think of yourself as a loser.
I assume you live in a metropolitan area. You should look into hackerspaces, makerspaces, coding centered coworking spaces with a lot of events etc and go there. I taught myself to code on my phone.
what club
fucking based
OP here. I can't believe this thread made it to 300 replies. Why can't you pseuds reply more to my Faulkner threads? Is a naked butt all it takes to get replies now?
Yea Forums is just an outlet for millennial frustration. When you tap into that theme it is flies on honey
I thought he was calling him sweaty, like fat and sweaty.
god i wish that were me (on the table)
Tops
Arguably one of the most fantastic bodies aside from Angie Verona to ever grace the internet. Too bad beauty, like all things, ceases.
Please God somebody tell me who this is. The fact that somebody like this exists and I can never fuck them just makes me depressed, I wish I never saw it
Meant for
how do people get invited to parties
This.
how do people
Some romanian skunk
an absolutely amazing post.
You can do both though
>Everyone losing their minds over this omega cope post.
people who socialize can also read frequently. Nobody parties 24/7 my guy
Based mad man! Much love
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personally I force my way inside by battery