Finished Kirkegaard Fear and Trembling.
Took me so fucking long because reading is not my priority anymore, but I wasn't convinced. Nothing really clicked when I read it.
What do you think about his work? What did you find in it?
No Christians LARPers please
I'm a muslim and I love Kierkegaard. Great philosophy towards spirituality.
One of the greatest thinkers Europe ever produced. Excels at aesthetics, psychology and philosophy, and above all, approaches ethics with exactly the attitude it should be approached, not straying one bit to one side or the other. He's so perfect I'm tempted to admit he really was chosen by God, despite not believing in God myself.
You may try reading his other books, Sickness unto Death being the obvious choice, but chances are you're too brainlet to appreciate Kierkegaard's brilliance.
Whos kirkegaard of muslims?
not OP but Sickness Unto Death is the only Kierkegaard I've read so far, could you advise me which of his works to read next?
Averroes or Avicenna.
Same boat as you man.
Great book isn't it?
Kierkegaard's works can be roughly organised on a scale from more lyrical to more philosophical, and of the two common entry points (Sickness onto Death and Fear and Trembling) the former is more of a philosophical but latter is more of a lyrical. If you want more lyricism, there's Fear and Trembling and then Upbuilding Discourses, Christian Discourses and Works of Love (don't get discouraged by their Christian inclination even if you aren't Christian yourself). For a more philosophical approach there's Concept of Anxiety, Scientific Fragments and Concluding Unscientific Postscript to Philosophical Fragments. Somewhat aside from this dichotomy are Either/Or and Stages on Life's Way, that are highly dialogical and present extensive analysis of possible attitudes towards the world and yourself, artistically illustrating a somewhat dry classification from Sickness Unto Death.
Whatever you would read next, Either/Or and Concluding Unscientific Postscripts are essential to your understanding of Kierkegaard. You should also check out Works of Love, while I haven't read it I've seen enough anons insisting on it being a masterpiece.
>Scientific Fragments
Philosophical Fragments, of course.
image misleading. had the arabs not attacked in 48, they'd have retained a lot of land.
after 1948 there was NO Palestinian land. Egypt administered Gaza and Jordan took control of the West Bank in '48 and never gave it up UNTIL...
Egypt and Syria decide that attacking Israel is a good idea. Nasser orders the UN Peacekeeping force out of Sinai and moves tons of troops into the area. Syria mobilizes as well. An attack is imminent, and Israel decides that waiting for them to make the first move would prove disastrous, and then DESTROYS them.
And here Israel's troubles begin. After 1967, they were in complete control of the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and not only the Gaza Strop, but all of Sinai, right up to the eastern banks of the Suez Canal. They chose to return the Sinai for peace, but keep the West Bank. This latter decision could ONLY prove disastrous, as we have seen. Why?
Because they can't incorporate the arabs into Israel. They would be sacrificing their Jewish identity. This means they want to rule them but never give them due rights. This leads to discontent on the arabs' part, which fuels more draconian policies on Israel's part, which increases arab desperation, which fuels Israeli brutality, which....
and here we are today.
It's like they need some sort of a final solution for this difficult problem.
Maybe I will, but Fear and Trembling didn't resonate. I liked the comparison between the general and the individual but the only thing that I took from the book, is the notion of resignation and simply having faith. But I am not sure it's a very practical way of living. I probably missed his point since not much clicked as I was reading it.
I decided to read it because Nietzche's books were inspiring in a way and wanted to dwell more on existentialism.
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>Because they can't incorporate the arabs into Israel. They would be sacrificing their Jewish identity.
It's a multikulti world bucko, get used to it
Different user.
Can see your difficulties with Kierkegaard.
I really appreciate the observations, Kierkegaard offers. Self, faith, fear, despair, hope - all terms he defined with unmatched precision
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I would also really advise you to at check out The Sickness Unto Death. I think you might resonate with it's first part more. Those two works together give a far more complete view of Kierkegaards existentialism.
The Sickness, together with Fear and Trembling saved my life.
no. the world rejected the jews for centuries. zionism came about as a response to european antisemitism.
when there was no Israel, graffiti in Europe scrawled out, "Yids, go back to Palestine." And now that they are in Israel, it says, "Yids, get out of Palestine."
the Jewish identity of Israel is a crucial component of the State. and your multikulti world made it so.
I never read Kierkegaard myself, is his thought in harmony with christian spirituality/theology/etc? Or what he proposes is totally new, a new way, perspective to live one's faith? I'm asking this because maybe it's important to be already familiar with the scholastics to be able to understand him, and I've only read St Augustine
I'm planning to buy him, in my native language all translations are said to be rubbish, so if anyone can recommend me the best English ones it'd great
Thanks I will look that one up and get it when possible, I am glad to not see the thread derail.
>The Sickness, together with Fear and Trembling saved my life.
Mine too user. Kierkegaard is a genius. Either/Or also left a huge impression on me.
>The Sickness, together with Fear and Trembling saved my life.
In what way?
If you bring a good understanding of what characterises traditional Christian thought, especially the old scholastics, you might enjoy it more than the average reader. He goes into details in some pressing points.
But mostly, I would credit Kierkegaard with pronouncing the importance of the single individual in faith. I believe it goes against a lot of the understanding a lot of Christians would deliver or would have delivered in the past of their beliefes or even their formulated theologies. His works invite the reader to judge for themselves if his thought is in harmony with Christian teaching.
I highly recommend Kierkegard to anyone interested in humanistic or existentialistic philosophy. Although, sadly, I do not know which english translation might be good. I read them in German.
Not him, but it helped me understand God and love life. Really woke me up; stopped me from wanting to kill myself.
His way of thinking was so refreshing also, never knew someone could write so poetically yet be so deep.
Now i have to read him.
I lost a lot, friends, family, hope for the future and catalysed by the loss found that "The Sickness", despair characterised my life. So I did, what I later found as the next step in Kierkegaards philosophy - I resigned. I resigned from it all.
In resignation I had nowhere left to go and it did not free me from the despair. I would still wake up every day feeling the same emptiness. That was when I discovered Kierkegaard.
It resonated with my own view of the world but helped me realise that in resignation I was not lost. Alone with my thoughts, alone in this world, alone in freedom yes, but not lost. He showed me that I was living "In Sickness" but that these feelings were human.
And so I now continue. I strive towards a future in the world, I think about meaning and nature again, I explore the possibility of Faith for me in this life. I am closer to becoming who I am.
Long wall of text, but I never talk about this. Hope you get an idea.
Quality post, thanks user
Thanks for the good summary. Stages and Either/Or were on my list for far too long.