What did Heidegger and other continental philosophers see in Heracleitus? Is the idea of Parmenides being analytical the natural pendant to the love of Heracleitus?
What did Heidegger and other continental philosophers see in Heracleitus...
Samuel Martin
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Christopher Lewis
Aaron Myers
Ha - i was actually going to post that video in the OP, to stimulate discussion. It's an interesting watch.
Julian Nguyen
Heraclitus far exceeds Parmenides in his understanding of the world
Hunter Edwards
How so?
Carson Adams
Saw this yesterday morning
Was very interested in the fact that Heraclitus believes in the One, but focuses on change as an illusion. Kinda like Zeno, it seems they take Parmenides premise and show the ridiculousness of the other side. I like the quote Gadamer reads “man sparks a light in the night when his eyes are extinguished” - quoting from memory
Christopher White
Bergson
Thomas Perry
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Christian James
>Man kindles a light for himself in the night-time, when he has died but is alive. The sleeper, whose vision has been put out, lights up from the dead; he that is awake lights up from the sleeping
Heraclitus the Obscure, alright - it seems to imbue some sort of truth that transcends the states which might otherwise make it elusive or hidden. That this truth, or ''light'' commands itself to be seen, beyond death, life, sleep, or being awake.
Easton Rivera
Heraclitus was the original accelerationist
Brandon Wood
Herakleitos was a proto-christian prophet
Justin Brooks
the fuck do u care just read Plato u fag
Dylan Jackson
based
unbased
Jonathan Thompson
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Austin Gray
proto-islamic actually
Levi Phillips
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Ian Ortiz
>proto-Christian
>rejected the forms
Good one.
Julian Gray
Covered in his summer of 1943 and 1944 lectures, Heidegger proposed that the whole discourse of logos and Logos comes from a misattribution/mistranslation of the word by the Romans and the successive philosophers (those lectures are basically a work of semiology and translation of concepts by Heidegger).
He outlines that Heraclitus is an archaic (in the sense of inceptual) thinker that posited the question of being and beingness, which was subsequently forgotten in favour of the concept of the word and SO distinction.
Through these two lectures, he broaches the depths of Heraclitus' fragments and how it opened to the thinking of metaphysics--which was after Aristotle subordinated to Logic, a subpart of philosophy, and which thus biased and oriented the whole of Western Philosophy everafter.
James Collins
Is it just me, or is Heidegger's use of language bizarre? "Beingness" for what is referring to becoming ends up conveying opposite principles.
Charles Taylor
I dislike the aspect of attributing everything to the ambihuity and our lack of knowledge of the ancient language.
Constantly you read about different interpretations being allwoed or discontinued because of a new idea of how the language at that time in that specific region had developed.
If you add the opaque writing, at some point, you are no longer reading what the original author wrote but going far beyond and researching with your own mind. You are making progress beyond what the text ever could have meant when writen by Heraklit.
>if you are so unclear on the language and its use then the text is useless for interpreting it; rather you are solely interpreting the rewritings of how you interpret them
>inb4 that is how all language works; that is not my point and you know it
Wyatt Foster
>that is how all language works
It isn't your point: but it is a point that effectively describes how one can assess writers like Heraclitus.
Ayden Price
to add to my post here: there *is* no original Heraclitus, would be the counter-point.
Joseph Murphy
Beingness isn't becoming
Nolan Diaz
Does Heidegger understand Heraclitus wasn't talking about beingness as anything besides becoming then?
Adrian Gomez
don't read Hegel back into Heraclitus, that's bad form user
Aaron Smith
I'm not. It's in his fragments. The essence of a thing is in its temporal relation to other things for Heraclitus.
Matthew Gomez
watch the Gadamer lecture
Dominic Hall
What'll that tell me?
Gabriel Robinson
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