Isn’t the mark of a great author tha ability to condense?
What are some of your favorite shorter books and short stories
Why does Yea Forums love long literature more than short form?
Lot49
>Isn’t the mark of a great author tha ability to condense?
Not necessarily
>Favorites
Heart of Darkness, Desth in Venice, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, Bartleby the Scrivener
>Isn’t the mark of a great author tha ability to condense?
No? Why would you think that?
>Isn’t the mark of a great author tha ability to condense?
No. Literature by its nature carries much more meaning than the natural language we use every day. A poem can be reread a hundred times and still have something to think about, and the same goes for Ulysses and other massive novels. The latter just express more "meaning" over a proportionally larger space.
>favorite shorter books and short stories
Gogol's stories, Borges, Pushkin's Queen of Spades
A great book is as long as it has to be, whether that be 100 pages or 1000. I think Yea Forums likes long books because they contain more encompassing ideas, while short books tend to analyze a single idea
Under 5,000 words and yet feels like a longer book. It's so haunting it stays with you. I read it like 4 years ago and still think about it from time to time.
A novelist's (Yea Forums) goal is to expand your mind.
The reductionist's (/sci/, /g/) goal is to limit abstraction.
Read Samuel Beckett, Pynchon failed to break away from Joyce after Samuel Beckett already did and David Foster Wallace isn't worth mentioning in the upper echelons of writers.
How do I write a big book? Every time I write I always think that it's going to longer than it actually becomes. I'll think it will be 3 pages of an idea but it just condenses down to 1 page of idea.
>David Foster Wallace isn't worth mentioning in the upper echelons of writers.
Faggot.
>How do I write a big book
theres your problem why does it have to be big?
Who wants to read a 140 page fiction sperg?
I'm sorry but it's true he belongs to the age of Balzac and Flaubert but in the late twentieth century. He's kind of deaf to the progression of literary development.
>He's kind of deaf to the progression of literary development.
Who cares? It doesn't mean he's not an amazing writer.
I do. I have a life and don't feel like diving into an 800-page doorstopper all the time. The point is to have an enjoyable book, size doesn't matter.
have you read the metamorphosis?
Dr jekyl and mr hyde?
the old man and the sea?
>size doesn't matter
Awwww, that's so nice of you :3
I'll keep working on it then.
Oopsies.
Stop that face stealer
Big novels are not meant to be speedread.
They are meant to be read as a part of your daily or weekly routine to fill out some extra time. Just like a weekly anime.
Just read wikipedia summaries if all you wanted to know is the plot.
Since GR is relevant to this thread, let me ask here: What the fuck is up with all the broken German in gravity's rainbow? Literally, LITERALLY, more than 90% of the German he uses, only counting strings of two or more words of German, are wrong. It's reached a point where it's impressive how he manages to fuck up every fucking article and conjugation, you'd think he'd get at least some right on accident. Is this all a meme, like the grammar mistakes in the first chapter, or is Pynchon just a lazy social recluse too autistic to ask even a single German speaking individual to proofread his writing?
this title is problematic. reap sounds an awwwful lot like rape.
Can you give an example? I'm genuinely asking.
Hmm. Now that you say that, I think it's probably on purpose. The victims in the story are raped, in a way.
It's pretty good.
What?
Der Raketemensch (raketen)
Der Leid-Stadt (die)
Frisch Fromm Frölich Frei (fröhlich)
Hübsch Räuber (hübscher)
Vorrichtung fur die Isolierung (für; he usually uses umlauts, at least when he can find a different spot to work a mistake into, it seems)
Was ist los, meinen Sumpfmenschen? (meine)
I skimmed it looking for umlauts and specific instances I remember; the actual number of wrong German phrases is easily in the 50s
He gets right phrases that I assume he learned on their own, like Der Feind hört zu and Was ist los?, but the moment he produces a word or phrase of his own there's a mistake. I challenge anyone to find a correct German phrase (that is not an idiom) in Gravity's Rainbow.
He isn't.
Come on
It's done ironically, GR is actually a movie
Have you noticed Pynchon likes to throw in Japanese as well? I think he just wants to show off.
actually pretty decent
Well said