Are Plato's dialogues supposed to be interpreted as drama? Did Neo-Platonic students enact them?

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Wait, do normalfags not do this?? How do they even get a somewhat coherent point across?

What is the best translation for Plato, specifically Republic?

Like literature there are some good, okay and shit publishers:
Best (in no order):
Loeb Classical Library
Hackett
Oxford
Cambridge
SUNY Press (State University of New York)
Clarendon
Mid-top tier:
Other universities
Okay:
Dover
Shit:
Penguin

You copied that from the philosophy google doc you fucking queer ass faggot

and?

Bloom if ur not a pleb

were the greeks actually this fucking gay? i've been reading through the socratic dialogs in the order the google doc suggested and after symposium im convinced all the greeks were prancing lala homos

Loeb is the recognized standard for classical translations

Thanks. Ended up finding a used copy of Oxford. Very readable for a pleb like myself.

Yes, did you think it was some kind of meme?

Can someone please post that spreadsheet again?

What gave you that impression?

Just get the Complete Works by Hackett and call it a day. You don't need a collection Loebs, unless you're a Plato scholar.

docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1

big upvote mood queen.

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imagine the smell

That's how ancient dreams worked too desu

No, since they lack numerous key elements of Greek drama.

(dramas, not dreams)

>No, since they lack numerous key elements of Greek drama.
I thought in a more broad sense, like we have today. They did not have to be considered Greek drama in those days, but more like we see it now. Orating, reading from text, speaking with other students from the test to elucidate etc.

Nah, but the structure makes it easier to memorize and recite it. Not everyone can read or has the means to get a copy.

Well, if Plato didn't consider them dramas, then that answers your question about what whether they are supposed to be dramas.
Afterwards they still probably weren't seen as dramas either, since the definitions of genres remained quite strict until the 19th century or so. I highly doubt anyone staged it in that time.
From today's perspective, when everything is so chaotic and many of the classical ideas that controlled art are gone, the deciding factor is probably how it is declared, the context and expectations that are provided. If you want to treat it as a drama, you can find yourself a troupe and stage a dialogue, nobody will complain. But without that it's still seen primarily as a philosophical text. And even on a stage its goal will probably be closer to philosophy, rational understanding and knowledge, rather than art, mimesis, catharsis, entertainment, or whatever you associate with art.

Really? The part about memorization sounds like you're talking about poetry, not Plato's dialogues.

>Really? The part about memorization sounds like you're talking about poetry, not Plato's dialogues.
Things being recited orally had a strong tradition in ancient Greece. Education, politics and law were conducted orally. The skill of public speaking was one of the most highly valued skills in ancient Greece. If you wanted something written down or read to you, then you hired a scribe. But that's expensive and not very engaging.

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That applies to the epics and dramas, yes, they're in verse partially for this reason. But Plato's philosophical prose texts being memorised sounds very weird to me. Orality was more important than today, but certainly they used and consulted manuscripts when studying Plato?

No. Those dialogues lack of Dramatic Structure. They're interesting enough to be read, but they fail as dramatic literature. It's like Jojo's. Only a good director and adaptation could make them work well in scene

Somewhat gay but less gay than today's western world

Ha, have you read alcibiades yet?!

not plato

Why not?

Your information is out of date. Most scholars now accept it's authenticity.

It was the introductory text for centuries. Then some Italian a hundred ago had a theory it was fake. Now these old rumors just hang on forever like unsourced infographs from /pol/.

It was supposed to be a comedy. He was being ironic

No he wasnt. He was being metaphorical with SOME.

Metaphorical =/= ironic :3