Ivan Turgenev

I really liked First Love.

Quaint but truly it sucked till the evry end.
The last addendum sort of writings saved it.

>you will never be alfa enough to fuck your sons first crush
Books for this feel?

A Yea Forums analogy for your pea brain:
It is like most modern thriller/drama/action series these days.
Snooze fest the entire first 12 episodes and gets "saved" in the ebin finale.

Pretty much the perfect novella. So tender and yet so ruthless at the end. Turgenev writes love stories so well.
>when she kisses the bruises

Can somebody explain why Dosto hated him?

they both tried to nail the same broad. dos finally had set up a date when suddenly, out of nowhere turgenev came riding on a white hors, literally picked the girl up and rode away with her. he later apologized and gave her back but since she was spoiled dos did no longer want her.

Who is this guy and what does he have to do with Thomas Pynchon, DFW or Nick Land?

Okay, now this is epic

because he is a hack?

I've read Torrents of Spring, First Love, Fathers and Sons and A Huntsman's Notebook. Is there anything I should still read?

Rudin, On The Eve, Home of The Gentry are all good, and pleasantly short. Rudin in particular features a prototype incel character who keeps getting BTFO with hilarious consequences

isn't he the Russian Barbara Cartland of the 19th century?

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Nabokov thought everybody sucked
He was a prick

Should I? I read A Sportsman's Sketches is really good.

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Turgenev was hated by both radical intellectual movements in Russia and the reactionary conservatives fighting against them because he was too much in the middleground for either (see Fathers & Sons, where the rationalist protagonist is parodied pretty hard). Dostoevsky dabbled in the intellectual movements and then veered hard into the opposite direction and became incredibly conservative, which you can see in pretty much all of his work. Notes from Underground specifically calls out the "glass city" utopias that young Russians were trying to describe, and Demons/The Posessed is a polemic against those movements with all the subtlety of Reefer Madness (not to say it's bad, just very blatant).
Turgenev, as far as I understand, didn't really oppose the spirit of those movements but was largely criticizing details and overzealousness, and for Dostoevsky that was unacceptable as he believed they were rotten to the core so making them slightly more palatable by toning down the extremism could be even more insidious in the end result.

Have you read Nabokov? He evades logic with wit. He nuzzles feelings for a laugh as if talking to his jailer all the time. The artificialness of Turgenev's characters make more of an impact together (like shakspears cast and sets cut down to verbiage) than Hubert ever did.

Also Turgenev was very happy to be a popular, urbane, cosmopolitan intellectual, hanging out in Paris with Henry James and Flaubert, and wasn't so bothered about Russia, which was also calculated to wind up Dostoevsky.

Isn't Dan Harmon a big fan of him? That's all I know

>Champagne socialists
really I only eat steak and that is the cure man.

>The Jew (Russian: Жид zhid) is an 1847 short story by Ivan Turgenev. A young Russian officer, in the camp outside Danzig where Napoleon's army is besieged in 1812, falls in love with the daughter of Girshel, a Jew who follows the Russian camp. Girshel does everything to promote his interest, but is arrested for espionage on behalf of the besieged French, and hanged by order of the military authorities, despite the officer's request for pardon.

If somebody could read Fathers & Sons and still go on to write Rick & Morty then he must have suffered some kind of severe head trauma between the two

Leonidas Andreyev is the one who is never mentioned and is the most brilliant Russian

The Smoke.

So, is someone making the Chad Turgenev, Virgin Dostoevsky meme or what?

Thank you for the explanation. It makes sense to me that Dosto disliked Chernyshevsky, for example, but Turgenev's Fathers and Children by itself was too neutral to make you expect such a negative reaction.

nabokov is a faggot