Gravity's rainbow

make sure to pick up the guide if youre retarded

Me too bro!
>he doesn't hand out pynchon novels
cringe

Read a little about the the premise and decide if it sounds interesting to you. If it does, read it. If not, don't.

If you read it without a guide you are probably retarded.
Somethings are too vague and will lead to terrible Misunderstandings that you want to catch before you’re too late and set into your foolish opinions

I’m reading it right now.

I’m not using a guide or anything so a lot of it I don’t understand, that might be foolish of me. Some of the characters I do remember though and I can follow their stories.

I’m about 180 pages in and I’m gonna try to push through and finish even if it gets hard. I did the same thing with Portrait and Ulysses and the second read throughs were much easier for me.

I figure this is a book worth reading more than once anyway.

i wonder what people did pre-internet and before a guide was published

What did Pynchon read? I know he must have liked Rilke and Hemingway a lot.

If anything, it gets easier simply by virtue of becoming more entertaining.

i think he read lots of nabokov, there's a few references in it cause he was his professor

he liked warlock by oakley hall

Who do you think wins style-wise, Pynchon vs Nabokov?

There was more free time, readers in general, and temporally-relevant cultural experience.

Pynchon is to Nabokov, what DFW is to Pynchon.
Well maybe Pynchon is the centerpiece regardless, he exceeds them both.

Shoul I pick up the penguin edition or what?

Unironically I loved it. This and Moby Dick were the two books Yea Forums told me people only read for pseud cred that I actually enjoyed. I admit I struggled through part 1 a bit but once I got past that I adapted to his style and I understood a lot of it, could track pretty easily.

Gravity’s Rainbow and Against the Day both reminded me a lot of Proust, but that’s just my speculation.

Because they ultimately go nowhere?

Nothing, he's fine

Haha ebin!!!1!!

Chandler

He cute

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>“The Rücksichtslos itself is the issue of another kind of fanaticism: that of the specialist. This vessel here is a Toiletship, a triumph of the German mania for subdividing. “If the house is organic,” argued the crafty early Toiletship advocates, “family lives in the house, family’s organic, house is outward-and-visible sign, you see,” behind their smoked glasses and under their gray crewcuts not believing a word of it, Machiavellian and youthful, not quite ripe yet for paranoia, “and if the bathroom’s part of the house— house-is-organic! ha-hah,” singing, chiding, pointing out the broad blond-faced engineer, hair parted in the middle and slicked back, actually blushing and looking at his knees among the good-natured smiling teeth of his fellow technologists because he’d been about to forget that point (Albert Speer, himself, in a gray suit with a smudge of chalk on the sleeve, all the way in the back leaning akimbo the wall and looking remarkably like American cowboy actor Henry Fonda, has already forgotten about the house being organic, and nobody points at him, RHIP). ”

What's this shit about the house being organic?
What's the joke here? I don't get it.

poop

I still don't get it. They're saying the family organically needs a house, and a house is a reflection of the family's inside made outward, but because there is a toilet in the house that means the family is shit?
But where does this whole house being organic concept come from? I can't find it in any of the guides or wikis. Why are people such as the blonde-faced engineer and Albert Speer expected to know/remember this?

Seems like a stand in for a U-boat and Pynchon riffing on Nazi pragmatism? I'd like to know what he meant with the electric frog, myself...

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what electric frog?

yeah I dunno

oh wait it's the Iron Frog/Eisenkröte my bad

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