Reminder that the greatest storyteller of the 20th century was a filmmaker

>Malick

What's wrong with Malick? Pre Tree of Life Malick is still one of the best directors out there.

I love you guys, and that you love cinema too. I wish we could all live in a wonderful and peaceful society devoted to art, wherein all of us could enjoy the bliss of existence and the mirror of our experiences that art provides us with. What a wonderful day to be alive.

Peaceful societies don't produce good art.

>babby's first arthouse
I'm not sure Tarkovsky is even in the top five Soviet filmmakers.

based.
I'm not really into pseud films but Stalker hits me in a way I can't explain.

is that the guy from arrested development and game night?

Are you implying that Stalker (1979) has anything to do with the 1986 accident?

not all art has to be about suffering and despair

Literally only peaceful societies produce good art. Its Europe is top tier and african art is garbage

>Ready Player One is a better work of art than anything Tarkovsky made
I want to write a worm that sits passively on computers until it keylogs an opinion as fucking atrocious as this and then castrates whoever typed it

Hard cringe on this post. HARD FUCKIN CRINGE

I don't like movies but I really liked this. Would highly recommend.

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Can you post the five better than him, please?

I think spielberg is bad, but ignoring a whole career and cherry picking one film to bitch about is pure stupidity.

normally film threads on Yea Forums are the best on the site but this one is fucking atrocious
good work lads

you are homosexual

This is what happens when you post during American hours.

Solaris fucking sucked tho

>hurrdurr Japan=future

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Most of European art was produced during times of at least relative and sometimes very serious strife.

Why cant the rest of the world produce good art during "serious strife"?

The rest of the world has. See: North and South America, all of Asia, and, yes, most of Africa. Art isn't just pretentious stream of consciousness post-ironic metamodernist prose-as-poetry play-qua-novels, it include music and all the plastical art. There have been beautiful African works of sculpture for longer than there have been writing.

>beautiful
Highly doubtful

Your opinion matter little. They are people who think the religious art in the Midlle Age before the Renaissance wasn't beautiful, what can you do ? They're just plebs. And so are you user.

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You made me search for Tarkovsky's dad on Wikipedia. He died 3 years after his son. Do you imagine what it is to lose your child when you're in your nineties ? Poor guy, he must have been so sad ;_;

I have a feeling english isnt your native tongue

The clues in that post are pretty obvious, Sherlock. If it's merely a feeling and not a certainty you need to get your brain examined.

That's not Kubrick, though.

>brain examined.
Im not the one who's delusional enough to believe that africans can make great art.

Tarkovsky is better than all of them. Tarkovsky is better than almost every single filmmaker. I'm not going to deprive myself of him because I'm not Russian

all of it
*all* of it
is sentimental schlock

Burt Reynolds?

there's no story to any of his movies, part of the reason he's a failure. even straightforward stories like solaris he butchers

>He doesn't enjoy late-Malick

I'm so sorry my friend.

What’s wrong with Tree of Life?

But you're delusional enough to think you have any capacity to judge 'great art' when most of your exposure to visual aesthetics is tranny porn, anime meme and contemporary advertisment.

Come back when you've spend at least a few dozen hours looking at the major paintings of the Renaissance tradition from Giotto to Titiano.

>HEY LOOK JERRY
>DON'T HE LOOK JUST LIKE JAMES DEAN
>HYUK HYUK HYUK
God DAMN PRODUCERS I HATE EM I HATE EM I HATE EM I HATE EM

easily Sergio Leone

Fucking EVERYTHING today. Not one good thread.

The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly is unintentionally the best Taoist text available to Western society

sure but he got better with every movie

Care to elaborate?

Well, I won't start on the interplay between the three main characters, but look, for instance, at the way both sides of the War are portrayed. Have you read the Tao te Ching at all?

>few dozen hours
I'm an art connoisseur and its why i'm racist towards the negroid and the jew.

Not yet. Planning to

Its good but the galaxy sequence went on for way too long and the ending of everyone walking on the beach was sappy. Just compare to the endings of the three films before that.

He's Christian right? Are all his films about Christian themes? Knight of Cups looks totally different to that.

I thought he was a Heideggerian or something. Definitely not a Christian in the normal sense.

>the stuff before he ascended was better!

I mean it opens with a reading of The Pilgrims Progress; and follows shortly with (a variation on) The Hymn of the Pearl.

>ascended
>became a hermetic nutso who no longer spends years refining his work with a proper screenplay

Even Malick agreed that his last couple of films sucked total ass. That's why he said he's going back to a structured script for Radegund

>He conformed to the bitching of his nostalgia dependent pseud fans
sad!

Helloooo /pol/.

Except that his latest films were all Malick repeating his worse tendencies (voice-overs, cascades of images) while not sprouting out into new territory. So its not even nostalgia - just shit. Malick was the one who succumbed to laze and nostalgic self-carnivorization.

No im simply old school

Forgot to mention that depending on how you interpret the last shots in relation to The Hymn of the Pearl it could easily be viewed as being in the vein of an Augustine's confessions style work. So in other words, not a Christian work, but absolutely parallel to Christian (and generally religious) themes.

Is it okay for me to combine Pantheism and Christianity? Can I believe in God-as-Consciousness and all of us as units of that consciousness, but simultaneously believe in a Heavenly Father who is part of the Monism but oversees it all and ensures order is maintained?

Best to ask Spinoza.

Is that what he believed in? I thought he rejected the notion of a Theistic Deity.

Art is about sentiment, you stupid fuck. What the fuck else is art if not sentimental? Holy shit, there's no end to the retards tonight.

are we playing the equivocation game again?
here we go:
sen·ti·men·tal
Dictionary result for sentimental
/ˌsen(t)əˈmen(t)l/
adjective
adjective: sentimental

of or prompted by feelings of tenderness, sadness, or nostalgia.
"she felt a sentimental attachment to the place creep over her"
synonyms: nostalgic, tender, emotional, dewy-eyed, misty-eyed, affectionate, loving More
"she felt a sentimental attachment to the place creep over her"
softhearted, tenderhearted, soft, soft-centered;
informalsoppy
"Hannah had always been sentimental about animals"
antonyms: dispassionate, practical
(of a work of literature, music, or art) dealing with feelings of tenderness, sadness, or nostalgia, typically in an exaggerated and self-indulgent way.
yes, doesn't that just reach the very essence of art? remember e.t.? he made it home! haha! i was so, you know, just--glad, you know. when he did that. it reminded me of when i was a kid. man, i wish i could go back to that time. oh boy.

Spinoza wasn't a Christian. He rejected all forms of religion, but maintained until death he wasn't an atheist. Which he wasn't. The short answer is no. Spinoza lays this out pretty clearly in Book 1 of the Ethics. You can't hold "pantheism" and Christianity at the same time - - they're mutually exclusive. You're going to have to choose. and Spinoza was right about everything so I'd choose "pantheism"

>Pre Tree of Life Malick
based pleb

>haha! i was so, you know, just--glad, you know. when he did that. it reminded me of when i was a kid. man, i wish i could go back to that time. oh boy.

From how you write I think you still are a kid. Ohhhh boooy indeed.

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>equivocation
I stand by what I said.

What is art if not sentimental? Absolutely nothing.

>what is art if not exaggerated and self-indulgent tenderness
you got me, man.

art can be many things, but in its highest expression, it is the grasping of the eternal in experience, and an evocation of the subtlest feelings.
sentimentality is an appeal to the base and the common, which is a perfectly suitable mode for a studio director charged with selling as widely appealing a story as possible. but that isn't art. it is, as before, simple schlock.

Where the fuck is Kubrick

Guy died trying to provide clues to the secret societies that rule the world

it's not like it's a surprise that the most powerful people in the world like to get together every once and awhile, cut loose and bang prostitutes in a highly simulated fashion

>storyteller

fuck off

what's the problem?

The problem is that people still cling to this retarded idea of cinema being about story en masse, and retards like OP reducing someone like Tarkovsky, who worked specifically against beliefs like that, to being a 'storyteller'

Yes. Because the best authors do not tell stories. Narrative fags literally need to neck themselves.

Honestly kill your self you fucking cretin piece of shit. You don't even know how ignorant you truly at.
Spielberg to Tarkovsky? Maybe if i want my film filled with subversive degeneracy.
Name one fucking modern cinemtographer, not even director, that holds a damn candle to Tarkovsky. Protip: you can't and any name you muster from that fickle skull will be a student of Tarkovsky.
How fucking willfully ignorant can you be to compile a list of such brain dead hacks, and dare compare their work to HIS. Fucking stupid faggot fuck. Go jerk off over pedo shit.

damn straight
youtube.com/watch?v=oQMr351ib2k

He is personally but that doesn't mean all of his movies must comply with what you expect.

wasting trips on obvious bait

>tfw the bait was succesful

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>i was just pretending to be retarded

Just yesterday I talked with a Russian acquaintance to buy and bring me a collection of Arseniy's poetry. I'm pretty hyped.

>dinosaurs are kind

I always tell people hallmark cards are literature but no one believes me except you

Funnily enough, just got this

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What writings are in the book? I've read Sculpting in Time and enjoyed it. Wondering if there's anything similar in this book.

>tfw sculpting in time in Russian is still not in print

>babcha pls give me milkies
Elaborate, pls? Tarkovsky was into motherly women?

Eisenstein
Dovchenko
Vertov

Those three at least > Tarkovsky

There would be no modernism in visual art without African sculpture.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Based. Picasso was very influenced by such sculptures.

Yes, that’s what I was referring to :).

Do you actually believe this?

Thank you for the kindness. Have a good day user.

I read Solaris and now I was going to watch an adaptation, I was going for the Gerge Clooney one since he makes muh dick hard but now I found stache has one too, which film portrays the planet superstructures the best?

I don't know about Clooney but Tarkovsky is much more concerned with the human side of the story, there's none of the superstructures shown.

Do so. It's wonderful, but some aspects are ultimately untranslatable, of course. Various symbols feeding into one-another in a way that approaches the mathematical

But just quickly: the presence of tradionally dualistic aspects in both sides of the War: mercy and cruelty, bureaucracy and individuality, the interplay of aspects at odds with one another—all with the overhanging beauty of humanity. But also, you have this image of Angel-Eyes floating through both sides of the conflict, representing the Anti-Human, the pure unbalanced egoism considered by the West as "Bad"—but notice that the same egoism exists in the "Good" as his main driving force. He, however, is able to temper it with empathy and a sense of Justice...etc. etc.

when I watch Tarkovsky I'm not really into the storytelling. I see him as one of if not the best visual directors of all time, though. He's more a painter than a poet, but that doesn't mean his narratives are inherently bad.