Why was the Soviet Union so right-wing and socialy conservative, despite being far-left? Even today...

Why was the Soviet Union so right-wing and socialy conservative, despite being far-left? Even today, the most socially conservative and backwards countries in Europe are all ex-Communist states. Whereas the countries with full rights and progressive policies are all states that avoided far-left communism.

Attached: D2FRBwS.jpg.png (1000x603, 69K)

>why doesn't the average person like faggots, junkies and criminal retard shitskin foreigners
a true mystery

It wasn't, stop with this meme. Just because the west went full retard on the bourgeiose race/gender/sex stuff doesn't mean that Soviet union was somehow conservative. There are other aspects of society other than some dude cutting off off his wiener.

>Different starting points for western, central and Eastern Europe
>Authoritarian rule focused on the will of lower class, vilification of "golden youth" and "redundant intelectuals"
>Productivist values, instead of self-realization and self-aggrandizement values
>Lack of luxury goods
>More demanding labour

>implying there has to be a relationship between economic policies and social policies

Just because the US has somehow intertwined social and economic policies due to them being forced to have only two parties doesn't mean this phenomenon is true everywhere in the world.

My mother is from ex-Soviet state She didn't find out gay people existed until she was 25 in the 1980s. The only reason she found is that two gays were caught fucking in the toilets at an ice rink. The rumour spread around very quickly and the militia turned up, beat the shit out of them, and took them away. That's how suppressed it was. It was considered disgusting and unnatural. By the same token, homosexuality in the West in the 1980s wasn't unheard of at all and accepted in many circles.

>It wasn't, stop with this meme. Just because the west went full retard on the bourgeiose race/gender/sex stuff doesn't mean that Soviet union was somehow conservative. There are other aspects of society other than some dude cutting off off his wiener.
this, there was no racial doctrine in the eastern block

+there were heroin junkies in the late 70's and 80's.

They didn't need an explicit racial doctrine. It was implicitly understood those countries were for Europeans.

Your view is so simplistic and dumb that it makes me mad.
I wouldn't even care, but there are so many retards posting like this, especially Americans. And then these retards vote politicians who bomb other countries.
What a clown world, indeed.

there was. People belonged in their natural ethnic republics, except Russians that could go everywhere. Jews weren't really trusted because their homeland was not Russia.

Yes, black foreigners in army or university were treated well, but they were visiting friends, so this was normal. There wasn't "racism" per say, but the idea that people belonged in their homelands was well-accepted.

It was simplistic because most people are retarded and so my post needed to be simplistic, so I could convey meaning to as many as people as possible.
But if you really can't see the disconnect and contradiction I've referred to, you're a retard.

>Soviet union was actually right wing!!!
Kill yourself m8.

That's part of the "bourgeiose race/gender/sex stuff", communists ussually left them in slightly better position than the regimes before them, but didn't care much.

Communists were playing on the race card from the progressive side. Remember the saying "..and you are lynching niggers!"?

They were supporting Africans in their struggle against colonial regimes and they were supporting African American in their struggle for civil rights, but they weren't supporting mass (individuals were OK) immigration to their countries in the spirit of multiculturalism.

Because the «left» has been subverted by capitalism (thinkers like Foucault outed themselves as liberals by the end of their lives). Degeneracy as promoted by the «left» is beneficial for the market because it destroys boundaries that could stop the market’s expansion such as family values, collective consciousness, ethics of virtue etc.

>Communists were playing on the race card from the progressive side. Remember the saying "..and you are lynching niggers!"?
>They were supporting Africans in their struggle against colonial regimes and they were supporting African American in their struggle for civil rights, but they weren't supporting mass (individuals were OK) immigration to their countries in the spirit of multiculturalism.
I know. They supported non-white communist regimes as a means of fighting and subverting capitalism and the U.S. around the world. But they had no intention of destroying their own countries by bringing in third worlders to ethinically replace them in a few generations, like westerners are currently doing.

I've come this to this conclusion myself, anyone I can read to better understand this?

No, they didn't support mass immigration (and shouldn't because it simply moves the problem instead of fixing it) . That's correct. I don't get what you want to say with this. Communist aren't liberals? You are probably one of those people who think ((((((((soros))))))))))) wants world communism.

If you want to understand the cultural and social issues of (Eastern) Europe you need to look at history at least a few centuries back.
The ~50 years of communism had its impact, but it was mostly economic.

Critics of liberalism like Alain de Benoist, Dugin, Moldbug...

Attached: 1200px-Europe_belief_in_god.svg.png (1200x1098, 243K)

Reminder: if leftists combined socialism + civic nationalism (strong border controls, respect for national sovereignty - i.e., opposition to the EU and NATO, mandatory E-Verify, economic nationalism/anti-globalism, etc.), they would BTFO the right-wing and simultaneously be in a better position to aid both minorities in their own countries through universalist economic policies and third world populations through the pursuit of anti-imperialism.

>don't let fags rape kids == far right
this is what leftists actually think

>There are other aspects of society other than some dude cutting off off his wiener.

bullshit, you're trying to trick me discord tranny. i see you.

the ussr was just america-lite in the 70s and onward anyway - a trend that has continued to this day

>There are other aspects of society other than some dude cutting off off his wiener.
This. For example, there were far more female scientists, engineers, technicians, etc. in the Soviet Union relative to western countries.

>Critics of liberalism like Alain de Benoist, Dugin, Moldbug...
These guys are all Yea Forums memes and cringe. Anybody else?

>Complains of memes while speaking in memetalk
Your brain is rotten

I agree 100%. Unfortunately, this puts me in the Trump camp because if the immigration issue doesn't happen now, then the USA will undergo a demographic collapse within the next generation, and none of this will be possible, let alone sustainable.

You haven't read them

>Your brain is rotten
no (you)

Doesn't Yockey talk about this? How Stalin shifted his country to the right?

this. OP is just such a big retard that heard the words "leftist" "liberal" and "communist" right next to eachother so many times that now finds it mindblowing that they are not the same thing

>unironically using "no u"

you mean like venezuela?

without the subhuman IQ kleptocracy

>female engineers
that's why they only produced garbage

>There are other aspects of society other than some dude cutting off off his wiener.
Straw man and wrong.
Social attitudes and morality determine the merits of a society.

Gottem

>Yea Forums - Literature

what an exemplary 2019 Yea Forums thread
good that I have fallen to only visit a few times per month now

Because things aren't so black and white that commentators make them out to be. They weren't left or right, they were a Russian blend of communism which was imperialist and wanted international influence. They used useful idiots, liberals in the soviet era and conservatives in the post soviet era, to defend its position. Same Russia as it is now just different people in power. All these labels are just superficial in nature.

I hope whoever wins in the next election things get less politicized and /pol/ loses its grip.This site was always declining in quality but it really fell to shit since 2015.

so "yeah literally the same thing but uhh..... good"
fucking genius

do poles believe in god just because they’re so proud of that polish pope guy? is it just some petty nationalism to them?

this is also how they differentiate themselves from the rest of eastern europe

because they turned into reactionaries along the way just like the fascists

Wooooow countries don't just choose between "right" and "left" like they were some predetermined packages you need to follow precisely? That's fucking insane t. fat retarded american faggot