When does this book start to make sense...

If you don't know what it's "about" it's an analysis on both the seen and unseen forces at work during it's time period. Critical or not there's lots of facts mixed in with the fiction. It's cyclical because of it's idea on the eternal recurrence. The kekule dreaming of the ouroboros quote. Look into quetzycotyl or however you spell it. Lots of pavlovian nonsense too reminds me of brave New world. The answers are there if you seek them..

fucking based & wokepilled

> youtube.com/watch?v=nEC2maVR3wM
> youtube.com/watch?v=CxkHTt81ioU

start over

Are there any books you'd recommend regarding the occult? Possibly something like an encyclopedia or something that provides a general overview?

Does no 1 on here actually want to talk about it I love this book negros

I'm mostly into the esoteric knowledge I haven't done much practice. I'm a Christian so I think magic is evil but yeah I can tell you what was useful to me. Do you want stuff in general or stuff that helped me understand GR

Secret Teachings of All Ages
Kybalion
Qabbalah
Vedas

I'm a non-believer, occult included, I've just always found the subject super interesting; also the idea of occult symbolism in writing is rad. So, anything is good.

Thanks, user, I'll look into this.

No problem but do be careful. I thought I wouldn't believe it either. Now I do and my mental health is horrid. You're probably less naive and impressionable than me since you're a non believer.

>Christian
>does LSD, studies occult, and reads GR.

what went wrong

people that tell you to use companion guides are boring fags.

use the wiki if youre truely lost but anything else is just making the experience cheap.

re-read passages several times if you have to. stop making it a race to the next section or a race to the end so you can tell your 2 friends you read GR. they dont care anyway

Can someone post na excerpt of this piece of trash of a book – or of any of Pynchon’s work – that is really beautiful and poetic? I mean, something beautiful as the beauties we find in Shakespeare, or Homer, or Dante, or Flaubert, or Tolstoy, or Chekhov, or Nabokov, or Calvino, or Emily Dickinson?
People praise the “muh prose” of Pynchon yet all you get is bloated, bloviating, solipsistic, postmodern meaninglessness; dated, impenetrable references; pointless, preeningly self-indulgent digressions; desperate, crappy--quite often literally--attempts at humour; a bazillion forgettable, contrived, cardboard-cutout characters; dubious--perhaps even flat-out homophobic--depictions of homosexuality; and loads of dumb, sophomoric symbolism (penises and rockets--gee, good one, Tom! Like, such a far-out metaphor, man.)

It's convoluted, not complex; it's riddled with quotations and name-dropping which serve no apparent purpose other than to provide a veneer of depth, demonstrate he Knows Things, or perhaps achieve greatness via osmosis; the rare articulations of profundity or pieces of evocative prose are buried in whole libraries of pretense and incoherent inanities; and when Ol' Pomo Pynchon deigns to take a stand on anything he's about as nuanced and insightful as, well, missiles and male anatomy.

Just run with it.

You haven't even gotten to the actual difficult parts yet you stupid memer. The first episodes make perfect sense.

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>impenetrable references

bruh learn to code.

Somewhere beyond the battening, urged sweep of three-bedroom houses rushing by their thousands across all the dark beige hills, somehow implicit in an arrogance or bite to the smog the more inland somnolence of San Narciso did lack, lurked the sea, the unimaginable Pacific, the one to which all surfers, beach pads, sewage disposal schemes, tourist incursions, sunned homosexuality, chartered fishing are irrelevant, the hole left by the moon’s tearing-free and monument to her exile; you could not hear or even smell this but it was there, something tidal began to reach feelers in past eyes and eardrums, perhaps to arouse fractions of brain current your most gossamer microelectrode is yet too gross for finding.

>Calvino

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you write just like what you hate about him

That was intentional

Kek

wheres the attempt at depth in name dropping comic book characters? you might actually enjoy his writing if you werent so desperately looking for reasons to dislike it

retard.
the wiki is literally just amendments to the weisenberger guide.
You are not truly reading the book if you don't have all the references. The book was written to be studied like this. it is not missing or cheapening the experience.

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if your first or even second read is with a guide in hand, yes youre cheapening the experience. you might as well read the guide and toss the book

the guide doesn't work like that.
It's like a series of definitions.

Now, was this disinfo to convince other intelligence agencies to go on a wild goose chase for ESP, or is it 100% legit the CIA would think this is possible AND let the public know?
Think.

Hahaha, hes reading the book...
WOW HE'S -LITERALLY- READING IT
WaHahaHa!!

It was just a prank stoopid!

they make 0 sense whatsoever

many of which are wrong and can be easily studied yourself in the age of the internet

Pine cone got black out drunk one night and woke up with this fully written novel. Even he doesn’t know what it’s about

there's a revised version.
And that's where the wiki comes in.

some of those references would be a real pain to uncover. Very obscure phrases and whatnot.

100% disinfo.

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>When does this book start to make sense?
Sometime during the second read-through

Why should things be easy to understand?

I'm retarded basically

Part 2 is instantly easier
at least the start is, that's when i gave up

The chapters become one harder than the last.

Governments have always funded and patronized aesthetic and hermetic arts and culture in an effort to draw attention away from political and social movements. Le nouveau roman, OULIPO, the Cuban novel boom (Cabrera Infante, Lezama Lima, Wendy Guerra), LANGUAGE poetry and Black Mountain College poets, have all enjoyed a bit of funding and spotlight in an effort to divert the public eye from more undesirable aspects of history.

Wtf I love CIA now