Interpreting occult/pagan thought

And to build on this even if people did those things youd still call them larpers. Varg burned down a church and hes the posterboy for this toxic meme. Antifa and the altright go out in the streets and beat each other up and they still get branded larpers. Your so full of shit.

Yes! Celtic Magic by the late D J Conway! Opened my eyes! Learned how to astrally project myself and helped me get centered to the trees and Sun and Moon! I highly recommend it especially the Pagan self-initiation ritual!

>You think their lack of intensity makes them less authentic?
Intensity is easily taken as a reflection of sincere belief, which is the opposite of roleplaying. Of course there's always the opposite extreme where fervor masks internal conflict, but if OP is looking for something ideal than the former is a lot more appealing.

Hypocrisy has got nothing to do with it, the people who follow their beliefs with actions are considered the biggest larpers of all. The entire point of the larper meme is to discredit and shame anyone who even thinks of going down a path that might lead to some sort of action, ritual, tradition, or change.

If person A believes there is a deity and proper worship requires every facet of your life to be devoted to that deity and does so, that's valid religion. If person B who believes there is a deity and that proper worship requires less of a personal investment and still invests everything they feel is required to be a good practitioner, are they LARPers or do they just have different views than person A?

To me that's like saying people who read shitty romance novels don't actually like to read. They do, they just don't share the same culture of reading that someone from Yea Forums probably does.

So you consider yourself a believer. Do you think there would be value for a non-believer? In all honesty, I'm probably too cynical to come at the book with the type of open mind required to really have my eyes opened by it. I just want to understand shamanism and its contemporary practitioners.

I guess my issue is if I want to learn about Islam, there are a ton of books that are essentially "What we believe and why." But all I seem to find is "Here's how to do the things". Maybe because shamanism seems to encourage self exploration and determination and the first type of book is more incompatible with the those notions, but I have no idea.

for a postmodern post-truth ontology as discourse and power social constructivist everything (aside from some permutation of marxist metaphysics) is an ironic larp reducible to you nebulous hypostasis of choice - power or capital or whatever. But isn't the position of relativist social construction just the ultimate larp itself as no one can possibly live that way other than in the cybersphere BwO that is the interwebs or the headier larp of pee-reviewed academic journals?

No one views us as worthy of serious study...I think that the intellectual establishment views us a bunch of "Dungeons and dragons" and Game of Thrones Larpers....
But the best way to explain shamanism probably really is by "doing"...

To some extent I’m just trying to push my own idea of religion and see if anyone bites.

But I think if you worship the tree goddess or whatever, and you don’t strongly believe it, then you’re larping.

And on another level, like the other poster mentioned, intensity is an indicator of strong belief. Most practitioners of religion don’t strongly believe or adhere to the beliefs they claim. They larp as a good Christian, or a pagan, or an occultist without truly believing these things.

For them it’s more the act of ritual that drives them than the beliefs underlying the ritual or what they get from it. They just like thinking of themselves as a practitioner of such and such. They don’t strongly believe any of it.

I do think it’s possible to dramatically change lifestyles in a productive, authentic way.

In another post here ( ) I mentioned that, while using larper as a catch all term for those making religious pursuits is a spook, many people making those pursuits are larping.

Can you post that again without using all of those buzzterms