What about Carl Jung?

What about Carl Jung?

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Probably m favourite philosopher

Extremely high IQ right here

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Is it worth reading himself?

We have this thread every other day.
>read man and his symbols/memoirs/archetypes
>hurrr he wuz nazi freud/lacan much bettah
>fuck off faggot
>no yuo fuk off to t_d!!1+1!

A prophet

is it worth reading himself or others writing about him?

Lmao as if you've actually read his work "Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies". He likens the phenomenon to religious experience and gives examples from historical accounts. They're "real" in the sense that he believes people actually believe what they saw/experienced. The makings of a modern mythos, retold through a "scientific" or "empirical" framework.

I'm pretty sure Jung flipped on that, he actually really did initially believe in nuts and bolts UFOs at first.
Jacques Vallée is interesting anyways from that line of thougth.

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>I'm pretty sure Jung flipped on that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosocial_hypothesis#The_Modern_Myth_of_Jung

Is there any psychological writing that explains how the fuck furries happened? Is it a product of some fetishizing unconscious? Every time I've had this discussion with an actually furry they always go on the defense and say it's "not a sex thing".

>how the fuck furries happened
it's just a smoke screen for bestiality. metokur made a video about some furfag that also claimed how it's not a sex fetish and then it turned out that he's torturing and fucking animals irl.

They're reincarnated from the animal they feel attached to

Jung backpedaled when (((they))) got to him to make sure the truth was suppressed... just like "he" downplayed his earlier racial theories later on

It didn't just happen, weird sexual paraphernalia has always existed.

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Carl Jung was a pretty cool guy
Eh gave us Persona and doesnt afraid of supernatural

Furry is a form of xenophilia that isn't limited to just sexuality. It accentuates differences in human experience by analogizing aspects of humanity beyond the human, i.e. aspects of different animals. This is a major trend in many artistic explorations, including those involving extraterrestrial aliens or other fantastic beings, including gods in myths. If you can't appreciate the exploration of what it means to be human and alive in unusual frameworks, you really don't belong on Yea Forums.
The larger social context is that through the 20th century society has increasingly accepted more diverse ways of being, governed by the ethos of acceptance and compassion. The furry movement is in a sense one artistic acceleration of this trend. It can be healthy as fuck as a mechanism of self-exploration.

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It's for people who can't sexualize other humans. It's for people who can't look in the mirror, but also refuse to change. The costumes are a way to trick the brain, which is desperately telling the person not to reproduce

I only like mystical vision jung

The foremost expert on dream interpretation. The Indiana Jones of myth. Read ancient greek and latin. Spoke the truth. Beware though, he was insanely open to ideas - you have to work at being able to just accept what he's saying at times and move along. In my experience, he always does a good job of justifying seemingly unreasonable things like "interpreting the significance of numbers in dreams". If you're an edgy atheist you'll hate him lel

>It´s for people who can´t look in the mirror, but also refuse to change.
I like that!

you're not exploring shit, you're not an artist, and least of all you're not healthy, you're prancing around dressed like a cow in order to escape the human beneath the suit

Why is it that you can't admit to yourself it's just a retarded fetish without dressing it up as the latest frontier of human expression, emancipation and progress? Oh wait, dressing up and dishonesty is all a furfag ever does.

literally whom?

Unironically based. If you dont beleive in UFOs then yiu are wrong. Whether they are milltary technilogy or inter-dimensional aliens i dont know, although one seems more likely than the other.

fairy stories brought into the current zetgeist by jordan peterson, a self-help, snake-oil salesman pretending to be an academic

It's a sex thing, but many of them won't admit it because they wrap their entire identity around that nasty shit.

I hate Kermit too, but let's be real.
Jung is definitely the second most famous psychoanalyst, behind only Freud.
Everyone is STILL buys into psychological typology, most notably Myers-Briggs (which practically plagiarized Jung).
He's not obscure at all, and most people besides JBP's uneducated fanbase would have already known of him.

>jung's statements are epistemological, grounded in a theory of psychological projection
>jung was making ontological pronouncements about real things in the world

you guys are never going to understand the UFO

I read Jung's essay on Wotan, a short but disturbing read. Definitely thought-provoking and therefore worthwhile.

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Low effort phil thread.

>tfw magician according to jungian archetypes
>no gf
the wizard meme is real

But isn't prancing around in an animal suit to escape the human beneath an exploration in and of itself? Exploring some Other, something that isn't your physical self. A trying to Become something else, some Other or some sort of Ideal you have and by mimicking it you are one step closer to Becoming that thing.
I don't think most furfags refuse to admit that it's a fetish. But just because it's a fetish doesn't mean it doesn't have all of those other aspects as well. Just because something gets you off doesn't mean it doesn't have other purposes or ideas behind it. But also isn't sex one of the most primal and base ways of expressing one's self? All the raw emotion and feeling that comes through with that act can be extremely liberating and get your essence across much better than other forms of expressions, particularly when a partner is involved. But that isn't to say that it is a better way to express things or that is the only way the furfags do express things.
I mean just look at all the art and writing they do (and while yes most of it is pornographic that doesn't take away from it being a creative endeavor and expressing one's self.) Or the fursuits themselves, they're costumes and costumes have always played a major role in cultures throughout history, masquerading around as something else and in doing so becoming that thing.
I think most people just look at furfags and see the sex and don't like it so they just toss the whole thing out, and while it is fine to dislike the gratuitous aspects of it it is foolish to then degrade everything else about it because of that.

Great, I get into a thread about Jung, and we're talking about Furries. Can we just get this thread back to where it's supposed to be focused on?

I am a big fan of Jung because he wasn't afraid to straight up head into mystic territories.

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