I keep writing short stories which are too abstract, and I don't think publishers understand what I'm getting at...

Clearly the problem is not your writing. It's everybody else.

based and redpilled

>if I should write more conventional fiction to get something published
>or keep writing weird shit.
There's a fairly obvious third option, and that is the one that I would recommend.

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kms?

It’s not about critique, I didn’t mention anything about that. I said to “ground the discussion”. As it stands you’re basically just blogposting, why should we engage with a damp squib who just wants to whine?

obviously engagement with this damp squib isn't too much effort because you keep replying. look, pretend I never submitted anything; would you yourself write stuff you are not happy with just to get published.

no, I might be a fag, but I believe in my artistic integrity

You should just keep banging your head against the wall

Try writing a conventional story. When you are unable to get that published, then you will realize that your stuff actually isn't actually that well written.

Borges' shit was pretty clear tho lol. Maybe you're not building the foundation of the myth properly (you need an anchor of realism).

But also: post some you enormous faggot.

Lol everyone just waiting to rip OP's shit apart if he finally posts any of it

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>But my mom told me my writing is great
>Why won't anyone publish meeeeeee??

this is a quote from an editor, I can't tell if it's based or cringe
>The first half reads like a fantasy Fodor's travel guide entry.

i want to write stories but people call me retarded

Lol

post some of your writing here faggot

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He's destroyed you m8. End it all.

This one hurt my blood.

haha, this op
the world is at fault

Who fucking cares about your situation, this is a literature board you stupid fuck, we can engage you and your problems if we are interested in your story, but right now you just presented yourself as someone that's either scared to post what they've written or a attention seeking faggot who doesn't want to accept the fact that your work isnt as great as you though.

I'd read it

Did you ever consider that your writing is just completely terrible and the publishers are trying to be courteous.

I never said my work is great, I said it's abstract. I was hoping someone might suggest an avant-garde publication or something; this was not supposed to be a critique thread. I already said if publishing doesn't pan out I'll self publish and post it here for you to shit on, I promise.

I don’t know about how the publishing process works, but maybe you can add a section before or after that explains the deeper meaning of it

Yes

I DONT WANNA WAIT GIMME NOW NOW NOW NOW!

>Well written but we couldn't understand them
Are you one of those faggots that writes 50 pages of obtuse purple prose describing a "deeply personal" experience?

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The last one I had rejected was flash fiction, it's 831 words about a fictional ancient city.

Of course I would, there's nothing wrong with hack writing as long as you're making bank. Why should it mean you can't work on more artistic statements too?

Well if it's too esoteric for the editors then either:
A. Tone it down and make it more normalfag friendly whilst convincing yourself that it's a phase until you gain enough of a readership to unleash your true power level.

B. Throw yourself in the gas station toilet known as "self publishing".

Or the hidden C answer: keep sending stuff out despite the rejections. Something will stick eventually.

Here’s an actual answer OP.

This isn’t a good time to be placing abstract work - there’s nothing that’s actually good (rather than just experimental pieces from generally talentless writers) because there’s no audience for it (or there hasn’t been for the last few years). Even George Saunders’ experimental novel Lincoln In The Bardo got more press than Trump, and still no one really seemed to care or actually read the thing.

You might as well post them on Yea Forums and try to build a following that way. Don’t think of it as a request for feedback, just test the waters. The drought of good abstract fiction won’t last forever.

C is obviously the best answer. A is good too.

Have you tried Grove Press? They love shit like that. Or maybe some alt lit publishers?

No one fucking cares what you think just post it

Then find a publisher that gets it. Or, better yet, a literary magazine, if you're just starting out.

This is common of amateur writers. They start writing with a starting point and maybe an idea for a scene later but literally zero cohesion. They put a lot of flowery language in that makes it read like someone intelligent wrote it but the truth is that they don't actually understand writing. It is akin to opening your mouth and talking without having an opinion.

I'll look at it for the next round of submissions
I've mostly been looking at magazines
Doesn't really match the feedback I'm getting but it could be a possibility I'm fully retarded; not ruling that out.

FUCK SYMBOLISM AND FUCK ALLEGORY
JUST SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY
JUST FUCKING SAY IT

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it's likely it makes sense to you but you have failed to communicate your idiosyncratic thinking to an audience effectively, thereby kind of missing the point of borrowing from a shared semiotic system

this. no serious writer bothers with allegory (anymore) and even less so with symbolism

based

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This is fucking cringe. So you want to be Borges but no one gets you? People gets Borges. Maybe the problem is that you writte in a poorly and very arrogant style that only you get or like.
You remember me to some guy in my college that just interrupts everyone for mumbling good participation but so akwardly bad explained and with 0 interest on have a clear expresion that no one takes his seriously because he just look tryhard and stupid

I was having the same problem OP, so what I decided to do was just write for my own amusement and find work/income elsewhere. I am now an independent male prostitute.

man i wish i could be a hack writer so i could get some money to shoot dope and read more books

maybe you’re just a pseudo

>You remember me to some guy in my college
Must have been quite the school
I was considering selling bodily fluids, do they still pay for that?
I'm open to that possibility

I think you can sell your blood in some countries, I don't know that it's particularly profitable and you'll probably feel like shit/become anaemic if you do it regularly.

idk dude just become a barista or something part time