How did the Shire collect its taxes?
How did the Shire collect its taxes?
The Shire was a collectivist agrarian utopia, there were no taxes.
They didn't have taxes, because they didn't have a government, it was a left-libertarian voluntaryist society.
What did they use for money?
Who made the money?
Shire didn't have taxes.
It was an ethnically homogeneous socialist ethnostate with no real central governing power. The Mayor of the Shire was mostly a representative role for officiating festivals. Other than that, everybody simply gave what they could to their community.
Now, I know what you're thinking
>But user, that sounds suspiciously close to communism
I know, but keep in mind since there are no niggers in the shire they can afford to govern themselves this way.
They used money to trade with the Men outside the Shire, but they were mostly self-dependent. In the books both the Sackvilles and especially Bilbo after receiving all these gifts from the Dwarves were rich, but their wealth didn't translate into land ownership.
Also I really need to get laid.
Shire didn't have slaves? Not even "talking cattle"?
There were may hobbits who went and lived with the Men in the Breelands, but the Shire was off limits because it was protected by the dunedain Rangers, the Shire hobbits had a luxury that the rest of Middle-Earth did not have, in fact most of Middle-Earth west of Rohan and Gondor was extremely de-populated and there were no kingdoms or nations in it after the fall of Arnor. This was done by Tolkien for mostly plot reasons, and this is why his setting isn't really pseudo-medieval , but resembles more of an imaginary "fairy-tale" land. The fat man simply doesn't get that.
It was an erisian syndicalist body with a wisdom-based consul-hierarchy.
Not really, there was still a kind of 'nobility', often associated with, but not determined by, wealth, and so there was a sort of serfdom.
e.g: Frodo being 'fairer' than most Hobbits, and so Sam referred to him as 'Master', not just because he was in his employ.
Wait, Frodo employed Sam? What did he pay him with?
>What did he pay him with?
Spoons
>Tolkien's ideal society was an ethnically homogeneous agrarian communist utopia
>The Great Leap Forward, started by foreign invaders, destroys the Shire
pretty sure his ol' Gaffer and Bilbo where friends, he did it out of humble hobbitly kindliness
>taxes
Can you imagine a hobbit nigger?
>LeBron Tuk
>Why are the Hobbits not paying taxes?
Isn't Middle-Earth pretty much a post-apocalyptic setting?
sexual favours
From the perspective of the Elves, yes. The Elves at the time of the War of the Ring essentially live in a bombed-out hellscape.
Seen any elves?
hahaha
Made me chuckle, but it's true.
The setting has some features of alternate history and mythology, too.
The world was reshaped into a sphere, non-human races are dwindling, the valar get a involved less and less, and humans, thanks to their short lifespans simply forget easily.
I don't know much about intra-Shire trade, but the local economy was significantly boosted every year, due to their hosting Wacken.
The Shire was essentially a distributist enclave, it didn't really have a government, which is why it was so easily taken over by Saruman.
Been awhile since I read the books but weren't there sheriffs mentioned in the shire? Weren't some of our heros deputized latter on? The fact that there was a governing body at least implies some form of govt and likely wages for sheriff(s)
but the Shire was off limits because it was protected by the dunedain Rangers,
Nigger where the fuck are you getting this info. The rangers were described as guarding some far off land near Gondor or some shit. No mention was given to the shire being off limits to man. Men just ... for no named reason in the book.. had an interest in visiting/trading/taking over the shire.
I chuckled
Seems they had at least a councilorship of some sort. Not incompatible with libertarian socialism if you’re at all familiar with anarchism-syndicalism
Not incompatible in the sense that both are fictional societies that have never existed.
No, actually republican Catalonia spent a few years like this and did rather well.
There’s other examples in Native American communities of governance by council, I’m sure elsewhere. You’re completely wrong.
You're describing an oligarchy or at best a proto-republican form of government, retard. The First Nations all had explicit hierarchies.
Literally the opposite. The rangers protected the north. Did you read the books?
No need, the basis of Shire society was reputational not economic.
How did the king's landing collect its taxes?
ur cute
Anarchism is about challenging unjustifiable hierarchies, not getting rid of all of them. And we’re talking about Hobbiton. Geez
Someone who actually read the books.
Gold Cloaks
Holy fuck butterfly retard, the definition of anarchy is chaos because of a lack of government, yes it's literally means getting rid of them, this is why everyone hates tripfags, I'll be filtering you now.
>muh capitalist dictionary definition
Hahahah. Is his bait? Read a little theory before you try to lecture me on my own political leanings
There are various types of anarchism user. Go read about it. The most basic defenition is the one butterfly posted.
>anarchism=chaos
even /his/ isnt this bad
Unironically based & RP
They didn't really. They just took each other's furniture when "presumed deceased".
The niggerdom tax regime.
How old are you?
>since there are no niggers in the shire
Hobbits are unironically the stereotypical niggers, they lazy sponges with a propensity for parties and freely appropriating the wealth of others, and every white, insecure suburban kid dream of being like them
Grow up pol baby
Isn't it implied that the story takes place in our Earth before recorded history?
The introducton and appendix is written from a perspective of someone explaining events in a dystant past to a contemporary audience. They explain how the events were recorded (Bilbo and Frodo's recollections etc.) and claims you can't see dwarfs and hobbits anymore, just humans. Also it's clearly stated that magic is dissapearing from the setting by LOTR, eventually leading to a mundane world dominated by humans, kind of like ours.
Seems to me that the story is supposed to be a fictional secret mythic history. Kind of like how Greek myths took place in a real setting in a nondescript mythic age that never was. This makes sense seeing that Tolkien was influenced by the Kalevala and originally wanted to create a similar mythic cycle for the English people. There are also some parallels with the geography of Middle Earth and Europe (the Shire is obviously Middle England) and the differences can be explained by unreliable narrators or even continental shifts (Tolkien included the concepts of sinking islands in the story so why not?).
They whored out their kids to exiled rangers and used that to fund their small government
That map is out of whack
Hehe
>I live just a short car drive away from Mount doom
The Balkans are Mordor? Not too far from the truth, I'd say.