>I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries; a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.
It was a good ending but it doesn't gel with the sequels. In the original ending he's the ultimate hacker; he's going to break all the rules. In the sequels he's part of a prophecy and just another part of the system.
Nolan Gomez
>yfw you realise agents are just jannies of the matrix
jannies are agents moot is the Architect hiroshimoot is viral Agent Smith
Jonathan Cook
I agree. It was like an "oh shit this guy is now going to fuck up the whole system because he's ultra powerful" and then they turned the sequels into bullshit and completely ignored that final scene. Atleast it will go down as the ultimate kino hacker flick. The animatrix wasn't terrible either, but ignore everything else.
I really enjoyed all the action scenes we got but the story is a big mess and the death of the Oracle actress combined with the shitty recast did a terrible disservice to the sequels. Revolutions suffers from a glut of CGI, most of it good but far too much entirely.
Reloaded is a pretty good action flick; I understand the commercial reasons for making more movies but they executed the first one with such perfection there was no way they could live up to it in terms of filmmaking.
Eli Barnes
That's because the sequels are shameless cashgrabs, they shouldn't even exist
Gabriel Fisher
>without borders or boundaries I thought this was a based board why does Yea Forums like this tranny liberal shit
Jayden Rogers
In my personal headcanon, the sequels don't exist. I say that because the sequels were made purely to piggyback on the success of the first.
You can be a tranny in the Matrix without mutilating your genitals or acting like a faggot. I would love to get my pussy stuffed in the Matrix. It probably feels incredible. Otherwise why would women be whores?
Aaron Smith
They almost went in an interesting direction at the end of Reloaded, where Neo could still see in the real world and could kill Sentinels with his mind
>oh sweet, so reality is just another Matrix, and they're all AIs >maybe that's what you'd do in the future when you saw a Skynet-type AI developing, stick it inside a simulated world and give it a simulated world inside the simulation to run to keep it busy
But no, we got stupid tranny raves and mechs and hamfisted Jesus metaphors. Goddamnit.
>"However, after a three-day search, Webb's body has yet to be found." >BWEEEEEEEEEEEEE >BWEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nolan Sanchez
youre definately gay or in the closet
Samuel Hill
I view it metaphorically. Not literal "rah rah let all immigrants in build bridges not borders." That's the beauty of art. The audience is free to interpret it how they please.
Parker Sullivan
Revolutions feels like a totally different film, in the way Reloaded feels like a different film from The Matrix. Each one is a dilution or perversion of the previous. The Matrix is I think a very good film, easily a classic. Reloaded is a pretty good action film that builds upon the first but in a sophomoric fashion. It adds little to the story and undoes much.
Revolutions is just a total clusterfuck, it's basically a videogame; the final struggle for humanity matters so little because we never get invested in the refugee encampment called Zion. The films have always been about events in The Matrix, about Neo and Trinity and Morpheus and that crew. Trying to make it about that weird city of half-breeds was a total mistake and distracted massively from what makes the films entertaining to watch. Who really wants post-apoc war scenes in their cyberpunk kino?
Christian Russell
>yfw The Matrix was Star Wars (pretty much literally) >Reloaded was the prequels >Revolutions was Nu Wars
youtube.com/watch?v=qAZgMvh_few This track got passed over for Dougan's contribution. Both are good, I think the films made a good choice, but Davis is a serious composer.
Nathan Nguyen
This. Why was Neo wasting time by punching Agents in the sequel when all he needed to do was just delete them like he did at the end of the first one? Or why didn’t he just cheat and increase his strength and speed to anime levels instead of getting into drawn out fights?
I still like the sequels and the extended lore in their own way but the first one is still by far the best one for me.
>oh sweet, so reality is just another Matrix, and they're all AIs there was only 6 months between the movies, how did this stupid fucking fan theory get so popular?
Gabriel Campbell
Thinking about the sequels in context of the original is a headache. I just enjoy Reloaded for the action scenes and some of the silly philosophy wank. Revolutions doesn't have much going for it and feels like Reloaded's leftovers (which is basically what it was, they cut one film into two halves).
Ryan Evans
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>This. Why was Neo wasting time by punching Agents in the sequel when all he needed to do was just delete them like he did at the end of the first one? Because in the first film we have to have a climax where Neo is unequivocally the best, and they demonstrate this by having him annihilate his nemesis in a super-cool way.
In the sequels this would be boring, to just watch a bunch of Agents get Neo-herpes and explode, so we get Neo being a total badass who wins most fights with a flesh wound or less via sweet kung-fu
Aaron Evans
I get why Neo had to be nerfed for the action scenes to work in the sequels but it’s definitely quite of a big disconnect from the end of the first film.
James Taylor
>hiya fellas - agents are no threat to him >flies >destroys programs even agents/machines couldn't get rid of the only thing that's a disconnect is it makes it seem like Neo is gonna do weird shit in front of normal people to show them all how to rise up you get some of that with the Kid, but ultimately Neo freeing and training an army of Neos wouldn't be very entertaining
Joseph Stewart
It's a ret-con, and it probably seems jarring now but when you consider the amount of time that elapsed and the hype surrounding the sequels, it all makes sense. The Expectation was Neo is the Übermensch and in the context of the films that means he's gonna be irl DBZ. That's pretty much what we got and it was a blast but that story is a total mess, just like anime. And that is no coincidence. The Wachowskis are better at the one-off than long format, which devolves into wankery so often in anime.
Blake Johnson
remember this movie is about white nationalism somehow according to /pol/tards
Adrian Foster
no you idiot, its about lifting the veil of whatever to see the truth of whatever, it can be about pretty much anything.
Jeremiah Ross
He mentions at the very start that they are upgrades to the previous agents
Mason Walker
I shit you not this is how the redpill meme happened: >/pol/ fedora: guys we're so enlightened >/pol/ fedora: you know that scene from the Matrix where Neo takes the red pill and learns the truth about the world? that's what we're doing by shitposting on /pol/ >r/the_donald: red? that's the Republican color! so redpilled = right-wing talking points! thanks for the meme guys I'll spam it everywhere
Colton Scott
Yeah but he immediately curbstomps all of them with no interruption after that line.
The only time he ever struggles in a fight is against Smith. He handles every single fight in the movie that isn't Smith with effortless perfection.
Benjamin Butler
They don’t pose a big threat to the guy but Neo clearly takes at least some effort in defeating them. He still has to fly away from the Smiths to not get overwhelmed and he gets held up by The Marovingian’s goons for quite a bit of a time. Why does he even throwing punches or blocking attacks when the first movie implied that he could do anything he wanted? Bullets are the only things Neo can block bullets in midair for some reason (in Reloaded). He died but then resurrected himself anyway so he can’t even get hurt. He literally flexes on the Matrix at the end of the first one.
Lucas Turner
Because DUDE the first movie was it's own thing and they wanted to show how awesome powerful Neo was in 3 minutes.
In the sequels they had about 4 hours to show Neo being a badass, so you have the DBZ problem. You can't just start with your hero having the biggest dick. First the villain shows up, makes the hero feel a little insecure, then the hero does shit to make his dick bigger. That's the Hero's Journey in a nutshell.
Zachary Cruz
Lmao good bait here's your (You)
Carson Stewart
Dilate and then kill yourself, Lana.
David Hernandez
That's why it's called Reloaded. It's a soft remake.
Jaxson Smith
go sniff paint redneck
Oliver Price
>huh, upgrades Neo walking around killing everything by looking at it would be boring. It sounds like you want Neo to snap his fingers and the battle is won. Okay maybe that lines up with the very end of the first one better, but it's not a movie anyone wants to see.
Owen Jenkins
there are no sequels. Story ended with the first one. Additional cashgrabs don't matter
Thomas Gomez
But how do you break out of a system? You can't just wish for power like neo. It isn't that simple. The movie is just fufifllment of its own prophecy.
Julian Green
it was reasonable after the end of reloaded
Carson Campbell
you say nigger on Yea Forums
Jace Martin
What are your predictions for Matrix IV?
>Trinity is new Oracle >Neo is new Morpheous >Zion is another layer of Matrix, people are still being used as processors in the *real* real world >There's a new One in Matrix layer 2 >probably a woman this time >Emily Blunt is new agent
This song has been ruined by all the retarded memes i think even south park used it for parodies
Austin Walker
nigger
Aiden Bennett
I always thought the matrix was one of the most perfect movies on it's own the sequels to me are just fun fan fiction
if we could get the rights to the matrix to be open for anyone you could really tell any story you wanted after matrix 1 and have it be sick
Daniel Green
>watching unneeded zoomer sequel #54641
Camden Taylor
then 6 months later Revolutions completely shat on it and yet people still argue about it on here (not it happened this thread, thank christ, but still)
>yet people still argue about it on here is this a real thing or it's just some vocal retard who should just stop watching movies?
Brody White
1 > 3 >>>>>>> 2
Jace Wright
Idiot-tards being very very vocal. Its a low effort plot thread ala "it was all a dream" that doesn't go anywhere, and do not build on anything. Its the basic bitch theory that basically latches on to the fact The Matrix is 10/10, and the next 2 movies are mediocre with superior action scenes.
Hudson Stewart
>WHERE IS MY MIND!? WHEEERRRRREEEEE
Leo Morales
>superior action scenes. Superior to M1? How?
Gavin Brown
If we're talking about pure endings, I actually can't. Well played, OP.
the fight scenes were bad especially in 2 where Neo fights the asian oracle's bodyguard dude. it's shit, Neo should punch like Thor's hammer and fuck shit up if someone gets in his way.
David Cox
You lack imagination
Nathaniel Cooper
AGPs are extremely hetero actually, its just an ironic sissy fetish brah
Joshua Ross
Brainlet take
Bentley Reed
>Hollywood writers lack imagination fixed
Samuel Flores
>no borders so that's why the matrix is so much cleaner than zion
Wyatt Moore
Looks like Fight Club.
Dominic Bennett
Kill yourself zoomer faggot
Angel Gomez
How come to Matrix shoils be borderless but when it comes to Zion they have a machine gun perimeter wall?
Ayden Murphy
I hope you get cancer
Blake Russell
Why was there so many blacks in zion
Wyatt Barnes
Fuck off. You were a newfag too once. And if I do get cancer it will probably be from reading your gay edgy posts.
Jaxon Diaz
Yeah and in my day people lurked and didnt spoonfeed underage faggots. I hope your cock sucking cunt of a mother gets cancer too you 90s born queer piece of shit.
Adrian Long
>commie bullshit More like ancap
Jackson Wright
Suck a dick already, faggot. It so obvious you are craving it badly. If you can bend over from all the fat rolls that is. >MUH ELITE INTERNET 4CHINZ CLUB
Why does Yea Forums love cappie slavery so much? The few times their mass media produces something that even MAYBE challenges the status quo (the Matrix) you get all these sports calling it subversion or whatever the hell. I mean, who the fuck disagrees with the Matrix? Are there still people who actually think that the word we live in currently is a free one? How we solve that is up to interpretation of course, but you're telling me you're never just tired of this circus? That you dont fantasize about tearing it down? Theres a reason the Matrix is so focused on imagination, you see.
Easton Lee
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What was with all of the Gen X existential kino at the end of the 90s?
Isaiah Martinez
Why are 90s born queers so obsessed with faggot shit? You cant go a single post without mentioning dick sucking, ass licking or 'boipussy". Fucking queers. I also weigh less than you and have more hair. Why is it you lot are all overweight and balding prematurely?
Aiden Martin
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Gavin Cooper
t. The first redditor that went on Yea Forums
Isaac Hernandez
Dumbest comment ever made
Juan Sanders
They specifically show you the agents are different and with upgraded firmware. Think harder and concentrate dummy
Ayden Bennett
>Fight Club & The Matrix are both 20 years old now. Man the late 90s was such a good age where we had popcorn films that had some thought provoking commentary. Let's be honest we don't get any of that shit today thanks to everything being based off Comic Books.
Adrian Murphy
Not even the best matrix game my nig.
Benjamin Morris
the real redpill is that the matrix is a better existence than the real world and neo is a villain for waking them up from it
This. Path of neo sucked. Enter the matrix was way better
Jordan Sullivan
Path of neo was way better
Dominic Kelly
it's not tranny shit just because the fag brothers went crazy and tried to retcon their creepy fetish in. The matrix has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with dick-chopping psycho fags
Matthew Turner
Switch was supposed to be a tranny but the studio wouldn't allow it.
Juan Baker
this
Jordan Harris
This is literally the most based the revolution will not be televised boomer quote.
Damn I love this movie
Jack Price
Always thought these two had really similar energy