Protagonist realizes he's just a worthless biocybernetic clone with his whole life being a lie

>protagnist dies doing something good
>bad ending

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yfw wheeeeeummmmmmmm wheeeeeeoooooooooooo

youtube.com/watch?v=WcLzUZSGT6Q&feature=youtu.be&t=45

So retards like you don't get confused and yet you still did

Huh, I liked that character better when he was called Solid Snake.

Zoomers don't understand things like that. Unless the ending involves the person becoming a massive youtube sensation, their little brains cant fathom it.

>suicidal person puts himself in extreme danger that will likely result in death
yeah that never happens in real life does is lmao

Solid Snake was actually the hero though.

I get this is obvious bait but someone will inevitably explain the message of the movie & I want it to be me. Him seeing the gigantic JOI made him realise it’s not how he was born that defines how human he is, but what he does. The other JOI was not the woman who loved him, she was just as human as anyone living. And by making the choice to go against his mission, to give his life for a cause he cares about rather than is obligated to do, so is he. That’s why the ending is the only time we see him look genuinely happy and relaxed. Even as he’s dying in the snow, he’s living as a man instead of a machine.

Also that feeling when no gf.

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How does it make it a good ending?

cybernetic organism or Cyborgs require a biological and mechanical aspect.

Cybernetics does not require this.

Biocybernetic means "the combination of computer technology and biological science that makes cloning and genetic engineering possible"

However we do not know enough how replicants are made if they are clones, printed biological constructs, or so on.

Br2049 at least indicates that they are built, not cloned.

Cybernetic still sounds fucking robotic/mechanical to me, and your shitty little pasta doesn't change that. It's funny you should call me a retard though, since I seem to be the only person who knows what that fucking word means and thus why it's completely redundant in that other "word".

Keep damage controlling, retard.

he didnt die

Still not a happy ending
Just a subhuman accepting his fate and that he exists to make real humans happy

because its consistent with the nihilistic zeitgeist of our age
man who believes in nothing and belongs to nothing finds out he is a meaningless robot: kills self performing meaningless gesture
perfect

Script says he did.

The script didn't say shit. Although being stabbed in the Liver by Luv probably did kill him.

REAL HUMAN BEEEEEAN
AND A REAL HEEEERO

No, that's not what it is about at all. If that was the case he'd have just gone back to be impounded.

>If that was the case he'd have just gone back to be impounded.

When? He was Kill-on-sight

Joe's a real boy

Honestly forgot what they wanted to do with him. Point being that he would have been okay with that if what you said was true.

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>Robots have souls
They're not people retard. They are meant to serve

Real shit though, why didn’t they play that at the end?

but he's good, thus doesn't deserve to die. how can that be anything other than a bad ending?

Nobody good deserves to die, but he died a hero who accomplished his goal.
Nigga gonna be fucking his computer waifu in heaven.

I hate you cunts so much
I can't believe I'm one of you

Yes, remaining alive as an empty shell of a being until he was eventually hunted down in a dark pissed filled alley by another replicant just as he did to Batista would be a much better way to go instead of peacefully dying in the snow after having made some sort of meaningful accomplishment in his artificial existence.

Do you want to elaborate or do you just want to be a dumb cunt?

>One of you
Who the fuck do you think you're 'one of', exactly? The board? Yea Forums? You don't speak for me, and I don't speak for you. There's no collective here.

It's supposed to draw a parallel to how Batty dies in the first movie. Jesus christ, are you fucking dumb?

Their deaths are completely different in both circumstance and tone. You're the dumb one.

>in both circumstance and tone

In what way? They both realize human life is precious and finite. They both make peace with that fact while also dying in a way that a human would. They both realize the value of a soul, and prove they both have one.

Sorry, is it not similar because it took place on top of a building?

The real tragedy was Luv dying.

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It's not similar because they were totally different characters and did the thing they did for different reasons. K would have been sent to kill Roy if they were in the same movie.

In the end, even though he wasn't a real human bean, he was a real hero.

>it’s not the same because they’re totally different characters
Embarrassing post

The movie sucked

I think K's death is more about free will but I guess you could argue that has something to do with the soul.

Their motivation is completely different. K wants to help Deckard get back to his daughter after finding out he's just another cog in the wheel. Roy is a maniac who killed tonnes of innocent people in his own personal pursuit to find out who he was and what that meant to someone else (Deckard).

You're a brainlet.

A good ending would have been him shrugging it off and going out and getting some robot pussy. But, instead he starts baseding out like a bitch.

Gay

>gif
do better

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Yea, what was his problem? He should have gotten with that girl with the Russian hat that joi got him

>t. retard

Despite a replicant having given birth in this one, the replicants felt more humanized in the original IMO.

you fucking brainlet, you completely missed the point of the giant JOI scene. he spent the whole movie thinking he was special, he slowly grew to think he was the first person born of a replicant and that was taken away when deckard says it was a girl. you can see the disappointment when he realizes his big theory was false.

later when he's walking past the giant JOI and she names him Joe, it makes him realize that it was just a program who he had fallen in love with, the JOI he brought around with him and lived with wasn't real, the name she gave him wasn't special, and their "bond" wasn't special or real either. that's when he realizes he was never special but he has the chance to be something for once and do what he feels is right, which is what neither tyrell nor joshi nor the resistance want.

>being selfless is bad

>>webm elitists
zoomers were a mistake

i don't have much left to look forward to in life, my prime has come and gone. i can only hope i get to give my life for something important.

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Some people (autists) cant fathom the idea.

The most human thing to do is sacrifice. Is kino.

Goose and Luv are newer models though, more obedient and by necessity less "human". If anything the movie succeeded if you felt that way.

It's technically a bad ending, for him anyway
He thought he was the chosen one but he wasn't

A real human being and a real hero

>you'll never be as comfy as goose on those snowy stairs

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He was dying from a lethal knife wound to his liver. That's the opposite of comfy.

Why didn't he just glue his wounds

At least he got some good cooms with his simulator gf. His mistake was making a wife out of a whore. Should have kept her as a slut pet instead of a 3D fake wife.

>is there a little place left for me ?

>protagonist realizes he's just a worthless biocybernetic clone with his whole life being a lie
that isn't what happened, you need to look more closely at the movie

Listen..

(you) are a replicant. You are K.
You have fake memories. Memories that have been programmed into you all your life. I guarantee you everyone reading this post can name the plots of 100 different movies right off the top of their head on almost a minute by minute basis. They can name every character from their favorite franchise and list off that person's entire fictional life history.

That's what is inside your brain. That is who you are. Programming put there by mass media companies. Programming that has defined your system of right and wrong, of what is good and what is not.

Your memories were created by someone out there who has this job, and they had specific goals in their own personal interests when they were writing them.

The only "real" memories are what you actually did with your life. Which these days isn't a whole lot for most people. Maybe it never was. But if you can create just one decent one maybe it will mean something in whatever comes next when we leave this plane for good.

K is smart enough to realize all of the above, and he went to his death knowing it.

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Children can't take bad endings, only good happy disney endings.
that's the state of the world now

Fuck... it started playing in my head.

>later when he's walking past the giant JOI and she names him Joe, it makes him realize that it was just a program who he had fallen in love with, the JOI he brought around with him and lived with wasn't real, the name she gave him wasn't special, and their "bond" wasn't special or real either.

K's JOI named him Jo not Joe ;) and what you wrote is a very obvious interpretation of the scene so stop acting like you're saying something profound.

Imagine being this guy

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maximum pleb thinking

He came to understand that it is not the nature of your birth that defines you but the choices you make.
He spends the beginning of the movie stunted by the belief that he is purposeless and insignificant because he's not human, or he doesn't have a soul, like Madam says.
Then he spends a significant part of the movie thinking he was special because he was half human, then he was crushed by the realisation that he isn't.
He then sees the Joi and realises that she was even more artificial than he is, but she chose to die trying to save him. He realises that the nature of his birth doesn't matter, the choices he makes and the cause he chooses to die for is what gives him purpose and makes him a real person.
He dies fulfilled and vindicated.

Not gonna lie I honestly got a little bit turned on when she was choked out underwater.

god I wish this wasn't me

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Knight's Tale did it better

>:(

>endings are bad if they make me feel bad
fuck off drone

They're suspiciously strong for being all organic. Even if they engineered them into peak strongmen they should be a bit bulkier. K should have been more broken and battered from being smashed through that concrete wall if he's strictly flesh

please post joi
i dream about the day her technology is real but i know it won't exist and if it does i'll be long dead

not gonna lie I was rock fucking hard when that happened. I would love to have an android like luv, domineering, condescending, and catty to me in public but completely submissive and servile to me in bed.

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user that shit is coming in our lifetimes, I give it a decade or two before we have the first real customizable sexbots. coomers rise up.

He didn't decide to die, he was already dying. I doubt he could have gone to a hospital given that he was a replicant and a fugitive.

Not him but how is that not the obvious interpretation of the scene? The hologram calls him "Joe" which clearly negatively impacts K.

Lel, i was going to watch this tonight.

>the most obvious interpretation is the only one

Imagine making this post on Yea Forums not knowing how newfag it is and why. GIT

>scenes women will never understand

youtu.be/q0z08OpmEPc

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You got fucked kid. Fucked in the ass. Now you're in obvious damage control.

>makes the most realistic humon bean in cgi history
>forgotten immidietly

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>>Cybernetics is a transdisciplinary approach for exploring regulatory systems—their structures, constraints, and possibilities. Norbert Wiener defined cybernetics in 1948 as "the scientific study of control and communication in the animal and the machine."In other words, it is the scientific study of how humans, animals and machines control and communicate with each other.
take it from my main nigga Gandalf "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life."

i started a great movement

women think this movie is empowering

Factually wrong.
Almost every single major SJW site made an article against the film, mainly written by both women and homosexuals.
huffingtonpost.ca/aaron-scott-hildebrandt/less-human-than-human-blade-runner-2049-fails-women_a_23248074/
telegraph.co.uk/films/0/blade-runner-2049-may-set-future-treatment-women-stuck-past/
i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/evpwga/blade-runner-2049-sexist-misogynistic-mess

>We

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say "my bad" or call him an autist and move on instead of embarrassing yourself with this half assed defense of your mistake? Consider what I've said for future interactions.

>twitter meme template

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This is exactly what I was thinking, women dont know the meaning of self sacrifice.

You're a deep person. I can tell.

i can picture how pleased you were with yourself when you regurgitated this surface level faux intellectual garbage, and it makes me physically sick

>a few articles = public perception

Newfag we already concluded it was dishonet writing long ago.

A black man so obsessed with pussy he literally cannot discuss any other subject without mentioning how he also loves the vagina. You're a cliche bro. Might as well off yourself. More where that came from.

not that user, but let's hear you're deep interpretation then.

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Here you go, the entire perception on films of the female and male gender

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nothing will ever make me like the resistance and their plucky nu-star wars vibe, so regardless of how paint-by-numbers K's story beats are the plot is still meh for me
looked pretty though

its a pretty obvious internal struggle, son
im not the redditor jacking their dick to the profound concept that
>mass media is programming us all maaaaan!
>no one has real memories anymore maaaaan!
>youre k! dont you get it?! you. are. k!'
eat shit

But K literally dismisses the entire replicant resistance in the end? He does the very opposite of what they told him to do.

>dying = bad

The whole point of this movie is that the white man hero isn't actually the hero and that spot belongs to a stronk wimin.
All your horny and lonely Rian Gosling memes aren't gonna change anything about that, we're not talking about Master and Commander or Lawrence of Araby here

one of the bigger red pills, dare I say

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i dislike every scene with them and all of their characters. it felt like a different movie inside of a movie that K had stumbled across
they were off-putting and slammed the brakes on the film for me

same

it's the ultimate pleb/zoomfilter ending
he was not the chosen one, but he took solace in knowing there was a place for him, he didn't have to be born with a purpose or chosen, he chose his purpose.
He made himself matter, his memories will not be tears in the rain, but in the snow
youtu.be/RdNGHZ3JTTA
also you are a massive homo OP

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I don't remember him taking solace in anything, he just lies in the snow and that's it right?

t. pleb

No, I meant I don't remember the exact ending of the movie, I was asking if anything indicates that what you wrote is true, because I like how it sounds

How does it feel to be a complete idiot?

Because it's an interpretation that relies on the idea that K has literally never ever seen a Joi ad in his life before that, which is utterly preposterous even ignoring that other ads are visible during the movie. It also immediately follows the scene with Deckard and the clone Rachael that really bluntly states that the clone Rachael is not Deckard's Rachael. Just like any other Joi is not K's Joi. The relationship, time spent together, memories etc. are what's real and significant. It's not how you're born that makes you you, it's what you do in your life that makes you you. The conclusion of the film is K defining himself and making himself "real" and "special" through his actions.

It's a fucking copout, ha i will die of my own choice because i am to weak and stupid to pursue freedom and my own meaning. Hahah i will just become a martyr lol.

oh, in that case, this scene and everything from this point on

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By not being autistic and taking into context his actions, what he says to decker, and his expression as he's dying. But again, if you're autistic you're not going to pick up on any of this.

Even if you're that dense that you can't get any clues from the visuals and the previous interaction with Deckard, the fact that the Tears in Rain soundtrack starts playing alone should be enough for you to confirm it

but actively going against both sides and choosing to do what he believes is right is his pursuit of freedom and choosing his own meaning you beta male 90s queer fagbag

It's like christians who got cought on purpose to become martyrs instead of living by christ's teachings. Also unless you are trading life for life beeing selfless like this would lead to total extinction, he died to father can meet his daughter lol.

>because i am to weak and stupid to pursue freedom and my own meaning
But he literally did that you dumb fuck, and he got shot and his fucking ribcage sliced up in the process of achieving that

>he died to father can meet his daughter lol.
nigger detected

t. soulless tranny

More like you are a cuck who would die for other man's childrean lol

>He made himself matter, his memories will not be tears in the rain, but in the snow

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I SAID I DIDN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE I SAW IT A LONG TIME AGO

>childrean
pajeet pls

You didn't answer the request. Let's hear your interpretation.

technically in a sense he died so his dad could meet his sister, but more importantly died by throwing a wrench into the establishments goals and the resistances goals

Than go save some kids from slavery or something and sacrifice yourself doing it you beta cuck tranny. But no your meaning is posting on Yea Forums and you are not a pleb coward haha

saved for prosperity user

>Than
pajeet please

wow i was right.
actual nigger detected, cool

bad endings that change nothing are a hallmark of the noir genre user.

Yes you white cuck, you want a childless white nigger man to sacrifice himself for old boomer and his daughter. Just commit suicide for your jewish overlords and alpha males you beta cuck white bois lol.

of what? k's plot?
its spelled out for you. you dont have to try and be an intellectual by forcing your own ideas onto it.

nigger

Calm down captain autismo.

Thanks for playing my welfare you white cuck. I will rape your daughter as thanks if you ever have one lol

Indulge us.

lol
welfare nigger

You must be underage or sub iq to fall for such lazy larp

>of what? k's plot? its spelled out for you. you dont have to try and be an intellectual by forcing your own ideas onto it.
I know without a shadow of a doubt that if you asked the writers, director, goose, or Ford if they agreed with what you just wrote that they would say you are a fucking idiot. The movie, like the original, is deliberately vague and invites multiple interpretations. That's why people like it beyond the cyberpunk aesthetic.

I'm forced to agree with others that have labeled you as a pleb. But more accurate description would probably be a legit autist who needs everything spelled exactly precisely for them and can't accept anything that isn't black and white.

This must be the most overrated garbage in 5 years, i thought Synder fanboys were stupid but BR2049 fanbase is the most retarded i´ve ever seen

There´s still the Brie and Disney shills, but yes, this movie is going to be forgotten incredibly fast compared to the original.

And yet he still chose to do a good thing when he discovered he wasnt serving his own ego. Thats more human than most real humans. He died a human. Get it?

>BR2049
>not zoomercore

Trannies like you have been saying this since the release. First it was "in two months", but now after 2 years and threads and discussions still going extremely strong it's what, in two decades?

Yes, factually not zoomercore

Its a really depressing movie
>nothing you do matters, the best you can do is die for others and maybe your life will have a little meaning
>real girls scare you, but waifus will never love you, and you´ll die alone sacrificing yourself for a mediocre girl
>the world and is inhabitants are bleak, boring and gray even though is the future and there´s million of possibilities
>You arent even human, just a anacronic thing that will never find happiness

Kek, here´s your (You)

>Why yes, I would die to protect a roastie. How could you tell?

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he doesn't die for a roastie

ofcourse you wouldn’t die for your father and sister you anti human tranny

You must be a woman if that's what you think this movie was about.

all of this shit because another user vomited someone elses idea where they drew parallels between the character arc of K and the availability and consumption of media?
what the fuck are you boys on about? i never said i had a theory or that i even had the desire to offer one, i said that his offering was so faux intellectual and forced that it repulsed me
you two are making mountains out of molehills and insisting upon a deeper meaning without any evidence of there being one outside of assumption
its like a high school film class

I'm with you user. That theory just sounds like 3deep5me stuff that someone says just to appear smart.

*real human bean starts playing*

>He thought he was the chosen one but he wasn't
It's a much better ending than the "only the chosen one can make a difference" trope. I genuinely don't understand why people would want BR2049 to be like an Anime.

I like how Deckard totally abandons him. It's not like his daughter is going anywhere. Lol!

Decard asked him if he was cool and he smiled and said go see your daughter.