Knives out for Jar Jar Abrams

When the man that made TPM tells you he was disappointed, you know your movie has problems.

Based George. He tells it like it is.

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Everyone knows that this is true. Disneywars is garbage.

Please come back daddy George!

I’m so sorry George

>ANH rehashes the hero's arc and steals a bunch of old serial tropes
>"Why is this other movie made for children following this successful formula as well?"
This is why the sequels sucked shit, George. You're a fucking moron.

its not about the formula you retard, its about the same planets, same ships nothing new was presented, not even new aliens just shittier grey/orange butthole face aliens everywhere

TFA sucked even more though

>made for children
Why do people think this? Just because you can make a lot of kid-friendly merch for a franchise doesn't mean it's "made for children", especially when producers want to appeal to the widest variety of people, especially adults.

>ts about the same planets, same ships
LORE GOOD EXCEPT WHEN BAD

>okay so in the last movie they tried to make a deathstar, right?
>uh huh
>so what we do is, we make another one, but its bigger
>hmmmm okay

It's not because the basic story is similar but because it is a direct copy. Who thought this was a good script?

Jewish slavers

What a boorish attempt to intentionally misread fiction archetypes. Kill yourself immediately

>nothing new
WOW OLD MAN
LITERALLY
WOW
LOOK AT THE NEW DEATH STAR WHICH ISNT A DEATHSTAR BECAUSE IT SHOOTS MULTILASERS
LOOK AT THIS NEW DESERT PLANET WITH A NEW ORPHAN JEDI
AND AND AND NEW ADORABLE ROBOT SIDEKICK
AND NEW DARTH VADER
WE ARE CREATIVE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>duuur how is it a child's movie??
The laser swords, the space ships flying like fucking airplanes on a vacuum, the grating puppets that are a vital part of the franchise. Do you want me to keep going?

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All of us were disappointed, George; all of us who weren't s\y swilling faggot shills.
Well, okay... some of us did expect that Abrams would deliver a mediocre paint-by-numbers turd; but even we didn't expect it to be as bad as it was.

its not even lore lmao
if it had taken place on Tatooine it wouldve been just unimaginative, but its a new planet just like Tatooine with some stupid new name, that's unoriginal, do you see what we mean? you obtuse faggot

RotS was good. 7/10. It's disappointing to Star Wars fans because it was only 'good'.

George love thread? George love thread.

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Don't forget "stupider."

robot chicken sketch?

His opinion on TLJ was based as well

What'd he say? The only reaction I ever heard from him was saying it was "beautifully shot"

Im sorry George

All the soul is gone. All the cheese, the charm, the idiosyncrasies gone. I even miss dumb things like Star Wars Kinect.

Based. He should team up with James Cameron.

NOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICISE OUR MOVIES GEORGE

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Based George out swindling the jew.

>Who thought this was a good script?
That man's name? Jj Abrams.

forgive me

>What's next for Star Wars>?
maxing out my stepdad's credit card for that sweet merch!

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Sorry Man

What am I looking at here?

That's true though. There are shots that do look very beautiful. That's about all that can be nicely said about the movie though.

>"There’s nothing new," he said.
Looks entirely different to me.

Yeah I viewed it as George paying the only compliment he could, because it's true TLJ has some nice visual shots but that's literally the only thing good about it

A backhanded compliment really

Im not sorry becsuse i never turned against you, you'll always be a hero george

Who was in the right here?

Hmm, George is a shareholder? I thought he got 4 billion dollars which he immediately donated.

If he is then based, he lined up his pockets on the marvel money while retards wrecked Star Wars in just 4-5 years

The real life segment of a Robot Chicken sketch.

I never doubted you one bit, George. I unironically enjoyed the prequels as much as the original trilogy.

2bil in cash, 2bil in stocks. He donated the cash.

Marvel with a star wars veneer

In a sense having technical leaps in film is a logical fallacy. But visually he's right.

Same, early 2010's was a good time to be a star wars fan since the EU kept churning out a Lot of shit that varied in quality, but wasn't so fucking dull as disneywars

yuge. if he didn't sell them, he quadrupled those 2 billion by now

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>In a sense having technical leaps in film is a logical fallacy
Is it?
>shot in 48 frames
>shot with a special 3D Camera
>shot digitally instead of on film
All technical leaps.

You're a cock sucking fucking moron.

If George is smart he'll sell his shares before Disney goes on trial for cooking their books.

Lucas invented cgi shitfests.

>I thought he got 4 billion dollars which he immediately donated

"Donated" to a tax free "charity" organization that he controls.

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Everything he's put our has been visually and technologically ahead of it's time.

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At least Iger and JJ admit they fucked up Star Wars like men instead of Kathleen and Rian

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>He shouldn't criticize us for sucking! We did it intentionally!
>George just doesn't appreciate all the effort we took in retreating ANH!

Among Alans in battle, who is more inspiring: Alan Horn or Alan Braverman?

>I know the quintessential Star Wars better than George F Lucas

These were my thoughts exactly. Not only that, they went ahead and shit on the OT by making the whole rebellion in vain. Coruscant gets BTFO in the first 10 minutes and there’s an Empire 2 electric boogaloo

I really don't get why Bob Iger would reveal all this stuff. He basically admitted that George Lucas basically hates the sequel and they ignored all his ideas.

No they fucking dont

Once you reach technical mastery you become limited by creativity

He's fucking dumb like lots of execs and probably believes it was a learning experience or something

crazy that the behind the scenes drama is far more interesting then anything on the screen

Kennedy killed his chances of being president

TFA is confirmed shit now.

Part of me wonders if Bob Iger actually believes himself when he says Star Wars is suffering from fatigue.

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He's almost out as CEO, so he's probably making the next guy's life harder.

I loved the Prequels and stood by George every step

Thanks for the complete lack of context.

it was a remake.. and that's a good thing.

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I never have to apologize because I never doubted you George.

Prequels came out when I was in high school and they brought so much joy to a lonely loser like me.

Lucas went too far in some places though
The studios are almost never willing to go far enough

does reddit look up to him unironically?

I think the prequels were good new ideas (except for midicholorians) but poorly executed to vaying degrees. Nu wars is no new ideas rehashed poorly and id take the prequels over the sequels any day.

ugly fag, star wars always sucked

>I know you were disappointed I couldn't be you.

>I was disappointed that you tried.

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>now
kill yourself bandwagon jumper

>I'm a newfag piece of shit, spoonfeed me.

I already figured out what it was from, bitch boy.

Hardboiled Obi is the only idea from the prequels I liked. Too bad everything else around it was trash and it was never fully realised.

Thanks Hitler

There is nothing wrong with midichlorians you faggot bracket posting tourist.

unfortunately you had already outed yourself as a reddit nigger

Sounds like you know a lot about Reddit.

Iger hates Kennedy - but he'd get roasted for firing her because she's a fucking woman.

I hated TFA to begin with, but now I have George on my side too.

some things are very apparent, 1, Iger hates KK, 2 Iger is out after he launches Disney+ and ep9 tanks

ddn't he want to do some weird microverse thing with mediclorians or something?

Nah he's a perfect director. He was just rusty for the prequels. His screenwriting has never been that great, especially his dialogue.

incel trannies

It's over (((JJ)))... I have the high ground.

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Dont lie to me zoomer cock sucker, you go as the consensus does.

b-but we paid and gag-ordered you...
and you think this gives you power over me?

citation needed

It would have expanded star wars and force lore, of coarse disney shill media had to spin it like the entire movie would have taken place in a microscopic world of cells.

Yeah like anyone is going to vote for the guy who allowed star wars to be completely destroyed.

George could buy and sell kikes like jj and iger.

Sorry George

That sounds very inventive, but ibstead let's rehash ANH

This pic always makes me laugh.

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>ddn't he want to do some weird microverse thing with mediclorians or something?
That's not all as he also had storyboards and character ideas Disney actually used like Rey/Kira meeting Luke in exile at a temple and one of Luke's students going rogue with a Sith

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They'll beg for me back before the end.

It's like George had a new universe planned out that strayed away from his old characters only for Luke to come back super powerful and Disney just gave it all to Rey while basterdizing the whole Darth Caedus storyline

Also both movies have absolute shit looking locations, a crashed Star Destroyer on Jakku, Canto Bight and Snoke's throne room are the most creative it gets

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I so soddy masta Lucas preeze a mayke uh new stah wah

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>the OT is over, the Mouse promised us profit, the only one- AAHHHH!

>no new technology or visuals

um sweatie? yeah its called starkiller base and its not a space station super weappn its a planetary super weapon and the first order has figured out how to drain the entire mass of a sun to fuel the weapon to fire 5 count them 5 red colored beams across the entire galaxy to take out the 5 key new republic planets

weve never seen anything like that in star wars before you fossils are really stretching

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Not sure if Jar Jar Abrams care that much because he spent the entire promotion of TFA launching passive-agressive attacks toward Lucas (muh practical effects, muh srs drama, muh lightsabers). Jar Jar is a corporate whore anyway, he thinks what his current employer told him to think

youtu.be/viDu9SLvF_E?t=70

based

I had already figured it out when Cameron trashed it
just need to read between the lines
youtube.com/watch?v=Rje-86IujJc

what´s the deal with this soulless people trying to have their "own ideas", it´s fucking laughable, it wouldn´t surprise me that it´s more an ego thing because creatively they´re empty people

also mike stoklasa can go to hell

They think because they can run a business they have taste and creativity

Never seen this.. Fantastic!

I truly do believe that in the coming years, say 10 years or so down the line, people will collectively agree that the ST was soulless and not good.. As much as I dislike The Last Jedi I think it'll be the only one that will get any praise for doing something different and risky (even if it was for all the wrong reasons.)

No shit tho, hearing that George Lucas felt exactly like everyone else felt but was legally bound by contract to not tell everyone is my favorite fact.. The turmoil behind the scenes of nu-Wars is groundbreaking and we'll never actually hear the full story.

please come back gerge

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>also mike stoklasa can go to hell
das rite.

I'm... sorry.. george... I'm sorry.

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I watched the People vs. George Lucas yesterday and the ending made me well up. I’m sorry George, you deserved better than us.

The original George concept for Jakku was so good. It was like a bayou planet that the Empire used to store their during the war and had been left to rust. There’s a great concept art piece of a lush swamp landscape with rusted out AtAt’s in the distance. They changed to to Tatooine 2 for no reason, just embarrassing.

Midichlorians were great. They're the bridge between the cosmic and living Force.

>"There’s nothing new,"
People can shit on /OurGuy/ as much as they want, but while the PT has awful writing, they definetly have the best world-building and the most creativity in the series.

Fuck the Plinkett bandwagon, the PT has genuine SOUL while Disney's "Star Wars" has -0% soul.

>1:10
>What happened to Darth Vader's grandchildren
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO FUCKING KNOW! WHO THE FUCK IS BEN SOLO? WHAT HAPPENED TO JACEN, JAINA AND ANAKING? WHAT HAPPENED TO BEN SKYWALKER? MARA JADE? LUKE'S PRAXEUM? KYLE KATARN? JAN ORS? FUCK DISNEY AND FUCK JJ

When I saw that concept art, I personally re-imagined Jakku as being a literal trash planet/moon which formed from the debris of gathered destroyed ships from the war. Like, the New Republic just dragged all the dead ships into one area and they eventually developed a gravitational pull. Every once in a while a new scrappable ship is found and gets dropped from orbit onto its surface, and the people who live on it are all crazy scrap salvagers who run the constant risk of being crushed to death by new arrivals and live in the husks of old vessels.
I'm not saying my idea is "good", but there's so much room for creativity with the concept of "old abandoned war tech planet". Instead we get Shifting Sand Land v1000.

Fuck the Red Letter Media boomers. They ruined Star Wars.

>shot/reverse shot
he sucks at directing actors and dialogue. the prequels were good stories (read the novelizations) but mediocre movies

I never doubted you, George. I enjoyed all star wars movies, but these new ones are complete trash. Disney is forcing all of this rehashed shit down our throats, and it's lowering the IQ of the fucking world.

>George's EP VII had Darth Talon going around seducing Jedi and assassinating them in their sleep
>Better leads (and a cuter, Asian Rey)
>Luke and Han legitimately looked badass (Han was like a cowboy and Luke was the Jedi master he always should have been)
>Ships and planets looked incredible and better than Jakku
>Villains actually looked scary and had SOUL

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>40k-esque spacehulk in Star Wars
I dig it.

>the PT has genuine SOUL
absolutely. despite being average movies people remember them fondly. and you are right on the money about the world building. The PT was fully realized with Genndy's cartoon clone wars and the video games at the time like Battlefront, KOTOR, and Republic Commando. Even the Boba Fett and DS games capitalized on the soul from the PT. None of those expansions on the world would have been as iconic or successful as they had been without PT's soul.

>We could have had a badass, aged Solo that was like a gunslinger from the wild west
>Instead we got a boring look, older Solo

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Did you watch the 3D Clone Wars? I'd definitely recommend you do.

Don't watch Rebels though, it's awful.

yeah he's right. They aren't new at all

Dude how about we do a new hope again? Rebels vs Empire, rebels vs Empire, rebels vs Empire over and over and over. Why the fuck can't they think of anything else? It's embarrassing

Ford is far too old and damaged to do that concept anyways. Would have had to have been a decade ago.

based malnourished brain poster

He is building a museum, allegedly

>There weren’t enough visual or technical leaps forward.
This is one underrated part of George. He's always pushing technology forward. Part of the reasons the last two prequels looked wonky in some shots is because of the early digital cameras he used. Lucas is an insane innovator.

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Here's the concept art you speak of

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>Nice visual shots

Why do people keep saying this shit? It’s 2019. 99% of movies nowadays have “nice visual shots”

>UGH NOT ENOUGH GREENSCREEN
Whatever, George

There's an alternate universe where instead of the rise of skywalker being released this year, it would have been the last of George's new trilogy

Leave Rian Johnson to me.

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*blue screen

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How dead in the water is episode 9 at this point?

KOTOR 3 levels

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Imagine being such a faggot that $4 billion still can't shut you up.

there is a demand for a true Kotor 3 there isnt anyone for Episode 9 yet that shit will come out no matter what

somebody say loads?

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There's also this one

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Why are the fight scenes so awful? In ANH, it was two old men fighting with glass swords so it was understandable why they couldn't actually have them clash swords. Even RoTJ has better fight scenes than the sequel trilogy. Darth Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, Anakin and Obi-Wan vs Count Dooku (ROTS), Anakin vs Obi-Wan and Yoda vs Sidious were amazing

Based Uncle George knows what's up

no I haven't watched it. When it came out I hated the art direction and have heard mixed things. is it good?

>ywn get KotOR 3
>ywn get the true Battlefront III
>ywn get another Dark Forces / Jedi Knight

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>Disney actually used like
Which a poorly phrased way to say they used nothing, but they copied some storyboard idea of cinematic introduction.

A bigger failure is that the plot is really boring. Rehashing New Hope for 2 movies in itself is fine, but you need to do something about it.
The first one is carried by some extreme turnabout action pacing, but it never escalates. The second one sorta builds up to Snoke, and never delivers.
The movie sorta gets boring when the only thing it has to keep it going forward is some weak light red/blue effects, a lot of strong bass/treble audioscape, and a lot of cinematography that doesn't lead anywhere.

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The guy who brought an Apple laptop to a star Wars meeting. Obviously

>Enjoyed the prequels
>As much as the original trilogy
Based. You're a real one.

The thinking here is so warped.

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it also looked strange because of the sterile sets. there were a lot of shots I didn't know were sets because they looked too pristine.

> you will never have space western Kino

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Nice source

>Modichlorians bad
Brainlet opinion

I miss star wars. I really do. But I can't stomach it anymore after what amounts to rape of the IP. It's just sad to see how far it's fallen. Even the shitty points of the prequels still had a pretty substantial library of cool media surrounding it. Now there's nothing to show for it.

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>sterile sets

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Why would they reveal this now?

MESSATSU!

iktfb

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The last film isn't testing well and may tank. Lots of YouTubers are poised to pick through the bones of the fallout. Iger needs it to fail to fire kennedy and ruin johnson next year and fix shit. He probably wants to bring Lucas back and slowly rebuild.

And I was disappointed Return of the Jedi was a recycled Empire script.

HOLY BASED

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Inadvertently did a ton of research on something else entirely and come to find out she and her ilk have been the silent ruiners of many films going back to A.i.

I know you post this is literally every star wars thread but outside of the lightsaber throw whats absolutely terrible about it? You're having people who can predict where lasers go and deflect them en masse; masters fighting each other should be a spectacle with the first mistake being what decides a loss. I just don't get it. It's a video game trailer.

I am sorry.

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all the fucking jedi council scenes and so many of those shots in offices

I wonder what it must feel like to be responsible for torching one of the biggest franchises out there

>it was important to him to present new worlds, new stories, new characters, and new technologies
That's Boomer mentality. Look at capeshit raking in the dosh while recycling everything.

>talking shit on chubby rainman
Cringe and Yikespilled

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This. TFA proved fans wanted another Death Star.

>this mysterious and cool magic is really just a semi-sentient mass of microorganisms that pick and choose who gets to be a cool space samurai
Real fucking neato

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I don't get it either, feels like something that could have waited four months to not build even more damage to the brand before their most important film yet. At this point it seriously feels like purposeful self-sabotage to have something to point too when it fails and they already know it's going to. The thing is, pointing the blame finger at Iger is the strangest option yet if Episode IX fails but that's exactly what people will do thanks to this week's statement

Capeshit was never previously done on film properly. The 90s films were sad direct to vhs. So it's not copying anything. It's adapting comic plot lines to film but it's still new. The matrix did a decent job showing super hero style fights but the avengers brought comics to life.

So..as bland as marvel films are...it's not rehashing anything technically. It's just on an endless ten year cycle so we're sick of it.

You're dumb and have no clue how they actually worked.

>he thinks there's something wrong with the lightsaber throw

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Neither does George

Why did he shill for TFA?

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>a galaxy-wide energy field we know to have a biological factor has a biological factor

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Idiot. The ST was going to delve into the connection between the Living Force and the Cosmic Force. Midichlorians are attracted to those with a strong Force potential. They don't create the Force but they do act as the bridge between the Cosmic and Living Force.

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The midichlorians didn't create the Force. They allowed for organisms to interact with the Force. Kind of like how mitochondria provide energy to our cells, midichlorians provide the Force to force-sensitive people.

The idea was stupid and it was executed poorly, but if you're going to shit on something, at least get your details right.

>use da fedora ruke.*fires 2 nukes* woah.

>also mike stoklasa can go to hell
He's already there.

your setting was always inferior to warhammer 40k, but I never hated you either since im not a faggot

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i mean he is not wrong, he never said jj should write and disney should own and produce it, george lost his touch

>zero hype online
>low trailer views
>eiger revealing behind closed doors drama 3 months before release

I'M SORRY

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Not if you actually watched Episode 7

Childhood is believing Disney ruined Star Wars.

Adulthood is realizing Star Wars was never good.

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>Smoothbrain Take is realizing Star Wars was never good.

Fixed

tfa is competently directed. Disney wars being laughably worse than the prequels doesnt make george a good director and writer during the time of the prequels all of a sudden.

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Fuck you George. Release the original trilogy master copies!

>x is bad because it has associated merchandise
you have to be pretty autistic for this to concern you

>literally changed his vision to increase sales of plastic toys
>but he's such a visionary! Why did Iger change his story to try to make more money!

>Why do people think this?
because the creator said it's made for children.

ohh sorry i forgot to mindlessly believe you because you posted an infographic of a few journalists who weren't involved in the production of star wars commenting on how what was going through George's mind when he was making it.

No, more like
>x is bad because the entire thing was made and remade exclusively for merchandise
Everything from the end battle to the poster was made or changed to cut costs and sell shit. Return is like Transformers. Vapid hollow bullshit, ugly action, no intelligence or thought behind any of it, bad acting, only existing to appeal to people who will go OOOOOOHH at the screen then buy $150 worth of toys afterwards.

Yawn

>>a few journalists who weren't involved in the production of star wars

>Gary Kurtz, producer of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back
>Lawrence Kasdan, writer of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi
>Harrison Ford, Han Solo

Daily reminder that when ESB came out it was actually critically unsuccessful because people called it too boring and too mature while ROTJ got praised for being dumbed down and action-focused.

The industry's been targeting the lowest common denominator for decades. ROTJ and Bayformers or the 500 Avengers movies are pretty much just the same shit, different decade.

The same appeal of the colossal turd iceburg that is the "Expanded universe", it's just a bunch of nonsense shoved out to the 80s/90s equivalents of today's nerd crew-type beanboys who will mortgage their homes to get new pops and cry when they see a lightsaber.

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S-sorry George

Because George handled it with so much more care.

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I'M SO HAPPY THE CARBONITE'S GONE I'M MOVING ON

SOSO SO
SO SO SO
SO SO
SOLO

Not that user but its kino.
The movie is legitimate cringe and does nothing to establish new characters since they're already established.
The first couple of seasons have a few moments which remind you that you are watching a kids show made for kids with kids humour.
Other than that, it is legitimate kino and highly recommended. Some of the Clone stories are great and if you liked the world building of the prequel trilogy, there's much more of it here.
It was also good in filling in gaps - like how Qui-Gon Jin leaned how to be a ghost and Anakin's turn to the darkside made more sense.
By the end its pretty dire and quite similar in tone to RotS.

>implying

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>it's just a bunch of nonsense shoved out to the 80s/90s equivalents of today's nerd crew-type beanboys who will mortgage their homes to get new pops and cry when they see a lightsaber.
>he doesn't read Nietzsche

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>new technologies
is he talking about fictional stuff in the movies, like showing of new robots or vehicles in each movie or is he talking about new special effects or other new movie making technologies?

>Expanded Universe
>yet manages to be better than the films
Explain this

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Bob fucked up. He should have said but I know you don't care about money as much as I do.

Both fit.

Will George ever leak those movie outlines?
You know it's quite posible they were worse than what we eventually got.

Irony, because Kotor got bashed by the beanboys for not being star wars enough. Especially 2. Instead of crying in joy watching Kylo Ren(tm) pull out a saber they cried angry tears that Chris had the jedi be a bunch of dicks. Cruise on over to theforce.net, leddit, or even tg's star wars thread and say the jedi are bad or you side with the empire. The tears flow like fucking rain.

Beanboys don't want anything more than tried and true x-wings and at-sts and lightsabers. Any talking or philosophy is boring. Any moral quanderies aren't star wars. Any maturity is stupid and makes you a poopyhead. The only thing they can't seem to hivemindedly agree on is whether George or Disney are to blame for it all.

George's true vision was always Orange Buttcheeks.

Compared to "ANH rehashed, but done by someone that doesn't understand ANH" and "Movie that shits on the ANH Rehash but doesn't really go anywhere?"

I read it was some immensely retarded shit where he would explain the Force fully. As if midichlorians weren't bad enough the Force is actually controlled by a bunch of spacefairies called "Whills" who live in some kind of magic dimension and use midichlorians to influence and communicate with people. Luke would have to go there and restore balance or something.

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>Look at capeshit raking in the dosh while recycling everything.
I haven't really seen any other series do what the MCU do.
Think about it, its
"Marvel Movie 22: The Infinity Gem Saga, movie 19: Avengers Endgame"
Think about how absurd that abounds. Star Wars is on what... Movie 11? With script written per arc and per movie. MCU is at movie fucking 19, to finish its first saga.

Capeshit is so mindnumbing because it doesn't recycle: It instead adapts at a far grander scale than anybody else has done before.
Meanwhile Disney has remade New Hope 2 times and made a terrible TV series to follow up on Clone Wars, and produced no new video game experiences.
And Universal Dark Universe is still at 2 movies, not even having started the franchise.

Saying "Capeshit" is just dismissing what its doing, and what everybody else is failing to do. A better example is that Wizard of Oz is 14 books, where generally only the first book has gotten a adaption when its attempted.

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>because Kotor got bashed by the beanboys for not being star wars enough
>a best hits of the ot and pt who even lucas liked
>frequently top spots on best rpg ever lists
What, they still didn't like it?

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I'm in most things for the lore and Lucas at least had some logical consistency. Rewatching the prequels you notice a fair few throwaway lines that line up with the ot.
If we got Lucas, we'd at least have had an explanation why the New Republic were a bunch of pacifists (despite being reformed in the aftermath of a war) and how the First Order came to exist.

And possibly the original plan for Jakku:

That's one thing that sucks in the Sequels. There's just nothing to chew at lore-wise, nothing that sparks curiosity. Every planet is dead and the only race we see are humans and various renditions of ugly squashface brown hairy aliens.

There's a significant portion of fans who think Avellone should be crucified for writing the Jedi as bad and incompetent. There was an EU writer named Karen Traviss who got the same treatment.

I think it's some kind of culture war shit where Jedi/Rebels are supposed to represent some kind of leftist utopian force, which would line up with George's intentions of a strictly good (left, leaning Marxist) group against a strictly evil (right, authoritarian) group.

>What's next for Star Wars

Complete and utter collapse.

Context?

>fantasy is suddenly now exclusively for children
Have you lived under a rock for all of human history?

Sadly George made it that way, specifically little kids to sell toys to.

What's confusing is why the few people left who aren't ashamed of liking Star Wars seem to think it being made for little children is a GOOD thing. They're basically bronies or adult Sonic fans.

Yeah but its just that George approached Star Wars differently
George approached his movies trying to make art. Disney approach their movies trying to make a product.

All I am really getting is that its the idea of PG13(for all roughly audiences), but without the horror of censoring half the franchise.
Then again, have we even seen a proper decapitation this far? 1-6 seem to feature some pretty brutal ones somewhere, and i can't even remember anybody losing limbs or lives to the laser blades unless they are faceless.

In episode VI, a sex slave alien is eaten alive for enjoyment and laughs. Almost no one remembers this.

Looks interesting, like a semi-tropical world.

There really is nothing.
>the planets
It's almost self-parody by those point. The ot and pt had plenty of ice, forest, lave, water, city etc worlds, but when an opportunity to do something more creative comes up, they don't. They even reuse most of them.
>the aliens
Aliens were never the central point but yeah, they're shit now. Lucas had some interesting designs compared to the generic crap now.

aliens are subhuman monsters no better than robots.

You must have forgotten about Spiderman, Batman, and the many other superhero flicks to come before them. Just because there wasn't a factory churning a new one out every year doesn't mean Marvel flicks are treading new ground. It's the same old capeshit. Hero discovers powers, hero saves the world, quips. Ad infinitum.

>He wasn’t wrong, but he also wasn’t appreciating the pressure we were under to give ardent fans a film that felt quintessentially Star Wars. We’d intentionally created a world that was visually and tonally connected to the earlier films, to not stray too far from what people loved and expected, and George was criticizing us for the very thing we were trying to do
Will someone PLEASE think of the poor executives and writers. Writing stuff makes head hurt and is very hard, think of all the pressure they were under when they decided to ctrl+c and ctrl+v ANH :(((((((

Traviss gets shit on for wanking hard over Mandalorians and turning them into Mary Sue's.It's deserved. Avellone did no wrong except elevate base material above the fans understanding level.

VI has:
Droid torture
People being feed to the Rancor, which is filmed like a monster movie
Jabba eating living things
Decapitation of random guards
Leia killing Jabba via choking
Thats most of it. There is also Vader losing more limbs, torture and seeing the remains of Anakin.

New Hope is ironically enough the tamest movie, where we get to see a space wizard choke out his underling to establish dominance, and a old man willingly get decapitated.
On top of the bar sheenigans and the burnt out moisture farm.

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>do something bad
>"why hate us for it? We're trying to that bad thing on purpose!"
In the words of Red(dit)LetterMedia, fan service and nostalgia baiting in Star Wars films is bad, unless it's in The Force Awakens.

>That pic

Lmfao

>In the words of Red(dit)LetterMedia, fan service and nostalgia baiting in Star Wars films is bad, unless it's in The Force Awakens.

Rich: Do you need any kind of training to use the Force? Any?
Jay: [Kylo] has training.
Rich: She dudn't.
Jay: Well we don't know where...
Rich: Neither did Luke in Empire... Well the minor training, he had like a week of training with Yoda, that's all you need, you need a week?
Jay: And then he went back for his training in Jedi and Yoda just died immediately.
Mike: Yes, can I point out that this is, we are now back to real Star Wars.
Rich: Yep.
Mike: There is never any bullshit about... The only thing that Yoda says is that he's too old to begin the training, that's all. But really, it's more like, okay, I've taught you a couple things, how to levitate stuff, how to do this, your real training is confronting Darth Vader, blah blah blah blah blah, and this it's kind of the same thing, it's not the stupid prequel idea of "we have to get you when you're one, and you have to stand there with a thing over your head holding a lightsaber..
Jay: In a room full of other children.
Mike: In a room full of other children
Jay: That are as close as we are now, with lightsabers.
Mike: Yes, it's not a literal training, it's not an academy of little kids in a classroom, like the stupidity of George Lucas' ideas in the prequels.

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>say they like the force awakens when it comes out
>say repeatedly for four years they were wrong and it was shit
>still cling to that one thing years ago because you're a faggot lucas dicksucker or disneyfetishist

Your prequels, sequels, and RotJ will never not be shit, seethyboy.

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Jay: Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford, I loved their relationship in this movie, I loved that it didn't work out, it makes perfect sense that it wouldn't work out between the two of them. It didn't feel like... Because that's the biggest problem with Jedi, like now they're just there. They're together.
Mike: Yeah.
Jay: There's one line, where she's... Where Han Solo is concerned she likes Luke, it's just like tossed in at the last minute for no reason.
Mike: Yeah.
Jay: So I love the way they handled those two, their dialogue back-and-forth is great without feeling forced or like "remember their relationship in the past?" Like there's more through the decades since then, there's a little more drama. A little more weight. I like that.
Rich: There is a throwaway line of dialogue to explain it, but for me... It's a little bit weird that like, here we are like 40 years later, and these characters are still doing the same shit they were doing 40 years ago...
Jay: No...
Rich: ...Leia's still the one in charge of the rebellion, organizing things, and Han Solo's still the brash smuggler flying around the galaxy.

Jay: I like Kylo Ren a lot. He has more character to him than Darth Vader does in A New Hope. Darth Vader of course, there's more going on in Empire.
Mike: Well, Darth Vader's character wasn't really established until Empire.
Jay: Exactly, exactly, so I like that the villain established in this new series has a little more going on.

TLJ is the most soulless of all.
The “new” things aren’t actually inspired at all; they’re based off expectations that make no sense when you actually consider the narrative.
Being a blind contrarian without thought of the impact is just as bad as being a shameless panderer without thought of the impact.

Rich: I think the problem with Star Wars though, is that one really good sequel happens to be one of the better movies ever made, and it's really fucking hard to live up to that.
Jay: Exactly. And this movie does a really good job of establishing itself as a solid sequel, which is the... my biggest takeaway from it is that it feels like a sequel, it doesn't feel like too much fanservice, or too much like we're doing "LIKE US! LIKE US! WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU ENJOY FROM STAR WARS! We're making it look and feel just like Star Wars!" It feels just like a Star Wars sequel.
Mike: They did a very good job recapturing the magic and the energy of the original... It almost feels like a blend of Empire and A New Hope.
Rich: Yeah.
Mike: And like, it's not totally A New Hope, not totally Empire, but it has those emotional highs and lows of Empire and the novelty and the magic of the first one. All kind of blended together, J.J. Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan, they all did a great job... doing what they were supposed to do.

>Film reviewers have no logical consistency when it comes to reviewing films
>only give an "accurate" review years after their first one
Its almost as if they did their best to hop onto the bandwagon they missed four years ago.

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Mike: Well, The Force Awakens was pretty bad in retrospect, but hindsight's 20/20.
Jay: Very, and I think we need to make it clear we haven't enjoyed any of these films. They're all crap. It's a really, really, really hard decision to make and I think we can admit we haven't cared either way. We don't have the same love for them anymore. That's not something that I can change, but I don't know, maybe it's just because in life, you are in love with things. It's just hard to really say, "I don't care about these films." The Force Awakens wasn't that good, even a year after release, I thought it was pretty bad. It's just that I thought it was pretty bad. What is going on behind this? It's just that I was in love with them before when they made them. I was like "They're really bad. But I really want to see them, so I'll wait."

>Rich: She dudn't.
Rich is such a mushmouth

please tell us why jarjar and the ewoks and jedi rocks and the cgi enhancements are good things and why the prequels were actually good and universally loved before mike was born

seethyboy

Mike: Well Rich, what did you think about The Force Awakens?

Ricky: Awful.

Steve: What did you think of the trailers?

Ricky: I thought they all looked pretty cool if I do say so myself!

Steve: And the story.

Ricky: But the idea of the story is that it's really about a young Padawan named Jango Fett. It's about the Jedi training him through the years.

Steve: Which is the most interesting part?

Ricky: Oh yeah. Yeah.

Steve: The training.

Ricky: It's basically the story of how Padawans learn. In a way that's really interesting to me. It's a story I've always been a bit curious about and it's an interesting story as well. I'm actually going to start doing another story about it, called "Crisis in an Outer Rim Galaxy." So it's pretty interesting because it actually has me really into that because it's something I'm interested in.

>please tell us why jarjar and the ewoks and jedi rocks and the cgi enhancements are good things and why the prequels were actually good and universally loved before mike was born
But I never said they were good in the first place.

Except we all know what you're thinking, because literally only the biggest pro-george fags and/or disney lovers still cling to the whole "BUT MIKE SAID TFA WAS GOOD 4 YEARS AGO WHICH MEANS HE FUCKED UP FOREVER" argument.

Why the fuck did Bob Iger reveal all this? Now everyone knows George hates the ST but couldn't talk because of the non-disparage claus and because he's a shareholder. Bob Iger basically disparaged himself.

then why the fuck wasnt he man enough to get talented people to work on the script and dialogue for the PT like he did on the OT?

>my le epic ownage argument only works if I pretend to know what you think
Cool. You got me there.
Why do I have to be a Star Wars lover to laugh at RLM backtracking on one of their most controversial reviews?

What did you say in the last place?

I have nothing to be sorry for, George. I always appreciated you.

>jews celebrating a jew
>USA entertainment ladies and gentlemen

I'm sure the last Frozen trailer already have more views

What the absolute fuck are you talking about? Absolutely nothing you’ve said is even close to reality except Traviss being shit on, and even then you got the reason wrong.

>but couldn't talk because of the non-disparage claus
It sounded like Lucas DIDN'T sign it, because he had a convincing argument that he wouldn't (they made him a big shareholder in the company).

Alan Horn iis a loser who got fired by Warner for being shit. then he magically became head of the movie division of Disnet and greenlit the trash known as the sequel trilogy. Even Daisy Ridley thanked him for approving her as main lead. You know this jew is really shady.

everything. disney wars is so shit they can't even make vidya out of it

Wait until episode 9 comes out, I bet they take an even bigger dump on everything. JJ has been saying theis movies is linked to all the other movies. There will be some stuff like Anakani wasn't the chosen one, it was Rey all along.

>One made and paid all of his 5 ST flicks
>why his so into cashing on toys?
>He's not allowed to do it only big monopolies like Disney and other big movie studios REEEEEEEEEEEEE

This shit looks mature and interesting. Instead we get an annoying twerp girl, a Mary Sue who destroys the lore like a wrecking like a wreacking ball. Followed by hapless diversity nu-male and rendering the old cast as useless extras

I hate Achto. It doesn't look like other wordly, it looks like an irish island without any modification, because that's exactly what it is.

Were all the planets in the same solar system? Why are they all so close to one another and why are they getting hit at the same time? Do they not understand that planets in a galaxy could potentially be hundreds of thousands of lightyears apart from one another?

id like to call for a official boycott of episode 9 but given the all time low interest in it the boycott would probably give them more PR so lets just sit it out and wait for the leak webm threads to laugh at

>Lucas at least had some logical consistency. Rewatching the prequels you notice a fair few throwaway lines that line up with the ot.
Lol?

>Luke, did I ever tell you these were your father's droids? We went on wild adventures together for 3 years in the Clone Wars, and the little one even saved me from a swarm of buzz droids, yet I somehow don't recognize them anymore. They were good friends.
>Luke, did I ever tell you that while your father was training on Coruscant, C-3PO served your family (Uncle Owen, Aunt Beru, Grandma Shmi, Grandpa Cliegg) for nearly 10 years? Somehow, your uncle didn't recognize Threepio when he returned to family's service.
>Hey Luke, did I ever tell you that all Jedi used to dress like homeless moisture farmers the same as I do, despite that still dressing like a Jedi is no good way to hide from Empire? It was a good robe though.
>Come here, Luke, today we will be training with this practice droid while you wear this helmet to blindfold yourself. You would think this was an impromptu training procedure, but no, we did this to younglings all the time and even built them special mini helmets. Right now you are literally worse than a child, Luke, like the ones your father killed with that lightsaber you are holding. He was a good friend.
>You must go to Dagobah, Luke, and seek out Yoda, the Jedi Master who trained me — well, actually, he's A Jedi Master who trained me. Before I moved up to Liam Neeson's service, I was one of the 20 younglings who went to Yoda's class every tuesday and thursday back in youngling school inbetween Jedi chemistry class and lunchtime. Nothing remarkable or mystic to our relationship at all. He was just my teacher who handed out droids and youngling-sized helmets to the class. Also, all his deep seemingly spur of the moment lessons and teachings from a true master are all fairly common Jedi sayings that he just butchers with his ghetto way of talking. A good friend, he was.

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>when ESB came out it was actually critically unsuccessful
But that's wrong you fucking moron. Movie critics might have disparaged it, but audiences loved it. Get the fuck out of here with your lies.

>had SOME logical consistency
I hope you didn't have to write all that out.

Do you know what "critically" means?

You should have listened

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>>You must go to Dagobah, Luke, and seek out Yoda, the Jedi Master who trained me — well, actually, he's A Jedi Master who trained me. Before I moved up to Liam Neeson's service, I was one of the 20 younglings who went to Yoda's class every tuesday and thursday back in youngling school inbetween Jedi chemistry class and lunchtime. Nothing remarkable or mystic to our relationship at all. He was just my teacher who handed out droids and youngling-sized helmets to the class. Also, all his deep seemingly spur of the moment lessons and teachings from a true master are all fairly common Jedi sayings that he just butchers with his ghetto way of talking. A good friend, he was.

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I don't think prequels were bad.
And thanks to him we've got one of the best era in SW with interesting stories and games

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>tfa is competently directed.

How can you not think they're bad with the plot holes the size of swiss cheese? See You may as well say Manos the Hands of Fate "isn't bad".

I love them and there's nothing you can do about it.

Fuck off mouse shill, he easily could pull off the old space cowboy on one last adventure thing.

How bad nu-Filoni and Disney is going to fuck up last season?

Not that guy but come on, he couldn't. Especially after that accident on set. Furthermore, he had no interest in putting any effort in and just wanted to be killed off asap.

The Nation Calls

Just watch the trailer, it's full orange waifu mary su-ism now.

He said this years ago. Why is it suddenly news again?

What the fuck do you think he'd have to do in that role that he couldn't pull off?

>Idiana Jones couldn't pull off a space cowboy!!

HAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHYAGHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA.

Fucking retard.

>nu-Filoni
He was always a faggot but George's autism kept him in line

last indiana jones was 10+ years ago. he's fucking OLD.

Those aren't plot holes, they're contrivances, and they ultimately don't diminish the entertainment value.
Plus half that shit is straight up from the OT. Yoda and ghost Anakin wear the same kinds of Jedi clothes as Obi-Wan.

Rebels were semi good, but I dropped it on 3rd season

Move without looking like his joints hurt?

yes and they were clearly visible from another system

>Were all the planets in the same solar system?
No, but somehow everybody could see the lasers hiting each planet.
I think JJ wanted a POV shot of someone on Orange Yoda's planet watching that event happen.
The whole Starkiller Base makes no sense anyway. There's no way they can fire a beam of energy from one side of the galaxy to the other and hit several planets at the same time while being in different star systems. From what I've heard, Pablo "hack" Hidalgo has retconned it, saying that the energy beam travelled through some weird hyperspace thing.

I think Han should have been a sweet talking politician, putting his con-man skills to work in the management of the New Republic.
Literally. what is he an outlaw from in the ST? Aren't his side the legitimate government? Why does he have to smuggle?

I always loved to prequels so i have nothing to apologize for.

it's said in TFA so no retcon

youve got nothing mouse cock sucker

It was utter faggot shit like all nu wars.

At least Coruscant wasn't destroyed. City kino could still be on the menu.

H-hayai!

>tfw we will never have that Coruscant tv show created by George and Ronald D. Moore

It was never explained in TFA how that whole thing worked. It's years later that Hidalgo tried to come up with a story (it still didn't make sense).

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Retard

Damn... This is why you should never shill for Disney.

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Yeah, a throwaway Kinnect game, that at worst was just kind of funny is such a cancer on the franchise,