That scene where Conan seduces and murders an older gay man

>the creators of the movie
>the character and world they created
(You)

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It happened.

The only difference between book Conan and movie Conan is that movie Conan became a physical specimen in a more believable way, being fed every day rather than subsisting on trash and bear meat since childhood. Book Conan is a mary sue.

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The barbarian rises on the shoulders of those he destroys.

Movie Conan vs. book Conan would be great. Any dummy on Yea Forums could write a kino thinly veiled 'original' script ripping off both characters.

Are you talking about the witch?
That was a woman.

shit, that'd be a decent story. conan vs an impostor conan who has usurped his throne and identity with dark magics. the shitty de camp raped reddit-tier "barbarian" conan up against howard's jack of all trades warlord.
if ever a franchise called for muh rian johnson subversion, this is the one.

When Conan is at the hippy festival he infiltrates the VIP area by luring a middle aged cleric to the bushes and killing him for his uniform.

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Kino. Which one is which? Book Conan is the one likely to use dark magic, movie Conan is devout and immediately draws steel on anything magical.

I could see either one sitting on the throne to start.

>cultists live in tents, dance, babble about chakras, and collect flowers
>when you realize Milius was making fun of hippies

>Conan
>using magic
user, I ...

everyone says the conan remake was closer to the books than the arnie version, and the remake fucking sucked dick. maybe its a blessing in disguise that we'll never get a proper adaptation.

>Language and writing were also made available, the poetry of Kitai, the philosophy of Sung

He's actually well educated, they do mention that it was part of his training

so i just watched the movie for the first time yesterday. who was the witch lady that he banged and then she flew away?

it never outright tells you but since she was a crazy cat demon lady, she was most likely a cultist of Derketo.

I know. Whiny booklets at the time complained that he didn't use enough trickery and parkour.

She is just that, a witch. Her purpose is to show that there is supernatural shit in their world, don't think too much about it.

oh okay. is the sequel any good?

its not nearly as good as the first one but its still adventure kino

Counterpart to the Wizard, who is nice. Even saves Subotai, the chinky fuck

The Conan movie is not overly endebted to the books or the comics. It's a product of Oliver Stone and John Millius. I think it's better for it, even with great respect to the source material.

Nietzsche, the spirit of Frazetta and "Zen Fascist." That's what it took to make the pill of steel. Fuck everything else

and fuck your frog god too you little anime faggots

It's a bad sequel to the original Conan, but a fucking awesome Dungeons & Dragons movie .

Also everything about Doom's cult is just kinda Millius giving you his take on hippies...

When you read about Milius that becomes kind of obvious.

Conan is kino
>fathers speech
>dooms speech
>the king that wishes he could still be an adventure like conan, all that glitters
>the battle at the ruins
>riddle of steel

This was nearly a theme in Howard (and one of the big differences between Howard and his penpal Lovecraft) -- there are actually several references to sex and succubi or vampiresses scattered throughout Howard's stories. There's also a scene in one of the pictish ones where the lrotagonist has to get something from a witch but she will only give it to him if he gives it to her if you follow what is being implied there.

It's OK. The tone is a lot lighter compared to the first movie, there is quite less graphic violence, and there is a comedy relief character.

Oliver Stone may be the only Liberal I actually respect.
>goes to Vietnam as a voluntary
>actually gets to see some shit and even has medals from it
>makes one great movie about Vietnam to tell you his take about it, not too preachy either
>actually believes in his political battles
>is not afraid of calling out Israel, gets blacklisted

Milius Conan is actually 90% Kull, with 10% Conan attributes, set in the Conan world.

It's a big mash up of Robert E. Howard's stories. If I recall correctly there's even a Thulsa Doom in Howard's stories, but it's in Kull not Conan. Almost every visual in the movie is from Howard's stories, just not any single story, and not just Conan.

Howard's Conan was a loudmouth braggart brute. Totally over the top. In contrast Kull was very somber, troubled, stoic. In fact the Conan you see at the end of Conan The Barbarian, King Conan, the troubled king, is pretty much just Kull.

Honestly any Howard aficionado that doesn't like the Milius Conan is just being an abrasive purist. No, the Milius Conan isn't a very good portrayal of Howard's Conan, but the movie itself is a very very good portrayal of Howard's writings as a whole.

There actually are a ton of references, head nods, quotes, and things from the stories, but none are in-your-face, it's never done like a stupid Marvel quipfest. There's a specific pattern of jewels on the tower that's from a story, but it's just there in the background to be noticed if you already know about it.

it lacks the imperiousness of the first film but it's one of the better sword and sorcery films of its time

Conan's going to be fighting Doctor Strange and Doctor DOOM come December.

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I fapped to that scene....

>Doom attacks conan as a kid because he foresees the kid killing him
>it only guarantees that conan kills him
>conans dad tells him that you can only rely on yourself
>doom is the opposite and only relies on others as brainwashed slaves
>the king who tells conan that being king is actually shitty and he wishes he was still an adventurer like conan

Great post, although I wouldn't call movie Conan troubled. He just had some things to process such as avenging his people and the death of warrior gf. While not overly social he definitely had a raucous side.

Is Excalibur any good? Been wanting to watch it for some time

>fuck your frog god too
you got something against egyptians?

the old king never implied he wanted to be an adventurer again, he said he loves his daughter cause she's all he really has in this world, if he taught conan anything it was the importance of family.

i saw it recently and it looks absolutely amazing(has dark soul vibes for anyone looking for that), the story isnt too bad either, but the acting is a bit goofy, not necessarily in a bad way, but it makes it kinda campy

if this board voted on a collective favorite film excalibur would rank #2 after everyone ironically voting for the dark knight rises

>Yea Forums's favourite movie
>not the thing

Hollywood will never again have a man as based as Milius, I wish him a sound recovery from his stroke and peace in his years to come.
WOLVERINES!

This movie is unironically deep

If zoomtard picks were eliminated it would be 3rd right behind Conan.

Oliver Stone had nothing to do with Conans success, his early drafts were cocaine addled messes set in the year 10,000 AD in a post-post apocalypse world where Conan was fighting an army of mutant demons. John Milius deserves all the credit for the movie becoming what it was.