If you could make a movie or a mini-series like The Terror or Chernobyl about a historical event/war, what would you pick?
Historical kino
Cortés is the only right answer
>White Man as Lead
>Holocausting the Aztecks
Not in this period, man
Operation Eland and Dingo
>The Last King
Its all about the life and the fall of Harold Godwinson.
en.m.wikipedia.org
>Battle of Old Trafford.
>Battle of Hastings.
>that pic
Alatriste
If I had to pick, I'd do a picaresque mini-series featuring someone from colonial Spanish America. Someone like Carlos Enrique Clerque or en.m.wikipedia.org
It'll be comedic and informative. You could feature so many diverse locations, cultural artifacts, colorful characters and have a predominantly Latin cast.
That or a Black Sails copy except following a rag tag group of fishermen and mercenaries who begin the first wave of Sea Peoples. You get to showcase the exotic Bronze Age world and the nascent conditions for the widespread collapse of the era. There's even a lesson to be taught about Systems Collapse and environmentalism.
The political climate nowadays wouldn't allow for a fair portrayal of this :(
Rape of Nanking, but from the perspective of Axis people. For example, John Rabe, a Nazi diplomat who created a safezone that sheltered 200 000 Chinese civilians, or Japanese General Matsui who said the following; "I now realize that we have unknowingly wrought a most grievous effect on this city. When I think of the feelings and sentiments of many of my Chinese friends who have fled from Nanjing and of the future of the two countries, I cannot but feel depressed. I am very lonely and can never get in a mood to rejoice about this victory ... I personally feel sorry for the tragedies to the people, but the Army must continue unless China repents. Now, in the winter, the season gives time to reflect. I offer my sympathy, with deep emotion, to a million innocent people."
The fall of Rome
Sassanid and Byzantine veterans of the cataclysmic 30-years long war that ruined both states begrudgingly banding together to resist the rising Arabs.
Really has that desperate brooding atmosphere that the Terror and Chernobyl both had.
Belgian Congo
Did they break their arms? Thought it was mostly hand chopping
Done dozens of time.
Based and Leopold pilled
Pizarro would be good too
I just wish we knew more about the sea peoples
YES
Am accurate one about the reign of Valentinian III, the invasion of Attila, death of Aetius and sack of Rome would out GoT to shame.
Only uncle Mel could deliver... and he's never going to get the budget to do it as it deserves
I would love a movie about Cortes but it'd never be made these days without being massively judgemental.
more british empire sailing kino
maybe HMS Beagle
Glory of Roman military
I mean, they would butcher it of course. Make them into caricatures of ebil, while the oppressed would be rendered as paragons of innocence and virtue. Probably no grey areas whatsoever that would accurately reflect the madness that went on there.
basé
There was apparently a TV show about it being developed by Benicio del Toro and Scorsese but there hasn't been any news about it in years unfortunately. I think they could have done a good job.
the sad story of Pertinax getting knifed by those pesky praetorians who then auction off the throne and knife Pertinax' successor
Fall of Constantinople.
>Constantine died the day the city fell, 29 May 1453. There were no known surviving eyewitnesses to the death of the Emperor and none of his entourage survived to offer any credible account of his death. According to Michael Critobulus (writing later in Mehmed's service), he remarked, "The city is fallen and I am still alive." Then he tore off his imperial ornaments so as to let nothing distinguish him from any other soldier and led his remaining troops in a last charge where he was killed.
wasnt a fall
compare it to Carthage which had 350,000 killed and 50,000 into slavery
It would be pure fucking kino
Reminder that the amount of White people in the Congo was very small and the extent of the territory actually controlled was a incredibly small part of the total Congo colony and limited to the navigable rivers. Committing atrocities was never an official policy, and the majority of atrocities were actually committed by native Africans. Private White-owned companies were given land, and they employed a paramilitary force, made up of NATIVE AFRICANS.
>Reports from foreign missionaries and consular officials detail a number of instances where Congolese men and women were flogged or raped by soldiers of the Force Publique, unrestrained by their officers and NCOs. They also burned recalcitrant villages and there is evidence, including photographs, that FP soldiers cut off human hands either as trophies or to show that bullets had not been wasted.
>During the Free State period, the Force Publique suffered from institutional problems. During the early years of the force, mutinies of black soldiers occurred several times. By the early 1890s, much of the eastern portion of the Free State was under the control of Arab ivory and slave traders (though the Government was able to re-establish control over the east by the mid-1890s). Organizational problems were also quite prevalent during the Free State era. With many Force Publique detachments being stationed in remote areas of the territory, some officers took to using soldiers under their control to further private economic agendas rather than focusing on military concerns. By the end of 1891, the force had 60 officers, 60 non-commissioned officers, and 3,500 black soldiers. Friendly tribes and militias were often used to help exert control over the outermost parts of the Free State.
The only failure of the White man in the Congo was failing to control his territory and prevent cruelties. Any media narrative about White slave masters personally genociding or mistreating Africans is a total fabrication.
>wasnt a fall
>occupied by a foreign country with a different religion and culture
t. genuine retard
>According to Michael Critobulus (writing later in Mehmed's service), he remarked, "The city is fallen and I am still alive." Then he tore off his imperial ornaments so as to let nothing distinguish him from any other soldier and led his remaining troops in a last charge where he was killed.
Almost certainly didn't happen like this.
Siege of Castelnuovo (18 July – 6 August 1539)
>By 23 July, Barbarossa's army was ready to begin a general assault and his artillery prepared to break down the walls of Castelnuovo. Enjoying a vast numerical superiority over the Spanish garrison, which was completely isolated and unable to receive support or supplies, Barbarossa offered an honorable surrender to the Spanish. Sarmiento and his men would be granted a safe passage to Italy, the soldiers retaining their weapons and flags. Barbarossa added to his offer the incentive of giving each soldier 20 ducats. His only demand to Sarmiento was the abandonment of his artillery and gunpowder. Two squad corporals of Captain Vizcaino's company, Juan Alcaraz and Francisco de Tapia, managed to return to Naples and write their version of events many years later. They recorded the answer given to Barbarossa that "the Maestro de Campo consulted with all the captains, and the captains with his officers, and they decided that they preferred to die in service of God and His Majesty."
wasn't a fall. go fucking learn. it changed hands.
did England fall with Norman invasion? no.
That's just Turks v Greeks (some Venetians and Genoans as well to help the Greeks).
I would love the lead up to The Fourth Crusade.
>Turks
>German Crusaders
>Byzantine schemers
>The Pope
>Enrico Dandalo
Would be an amazing series.
1453 is the year civilization fell. This world is nothin but a ghost dragging chains into nothingness.
Conrad's "Heart of the darkness" adaptated into miniseries fucking when
Caesar's conquest of gaul, some of the most kino military campaigning in human history.
That dude's entire military career is worthy of a several seasons-long indepth series. If the guy didn't fight the most large-scale battles out of anyone pre-modernity then I don't know who did. I guess maybe some chink or mongol could've racked up more, but they were no doubt far less kino.
impossible to do a series or even a movie about the fall of rome.
Rome didn't "fall" in some epic event. It was more like a dissolution until it only held symbolic authority until some german warlord finally end the charade and not appoint any new emperor in the west
the decline of the western roman empiire gives a lot of material for a good series, but i can't imagine a series about the fall of rom
Horatio Nelson Kino would be lit as fuck, he had 1 arm, blind in one eye after being shot in it, suffered from severe sea sickness but didnt give a fuck, fucked mistresses and put his ship at the front of the line at Trafalgar as they drove straight into the spanish and french line.
"God and my country"
what's your point?
It was still the belgians who installed the system which relied on commiting these atrocitities.
That the acts were carried out by other africans doesn't relieve the belgians in any way
I'd love a band of brothers style show about a Civil War regiment like the Iron Brigade or the Louisiana Tigers over the course of the War
More specifically an 8 Episode mini series on one of the larger battles such as Shiloh of Chancellorsville seeing the perspectives of men on both sides
>glorifying of german goths dominating italians
I dont think the western world is ready to watch this on screen just yet
30 years war
>romans
>italians
wow I used 'italians' to describe romans how dare I
Opium Wars
It's got intrigue, drugs, war, drugs, probably prostitution.
the sea people were the friends we make along the way
This. Fucking pastaniggers stealing Swedish history.
Holocausting Aztecs with the aid of his native allied who numbered in the tens of thousands****
cringe
>MUH SEA PEOPLES
oh dear it seems /x/ and /pol/ have delved into history
no the sea peoples didnt destroy several civilisations. famine, wars and natural disasters are better explanations
Seaniggas were behind everything.
England did fall in 1066
no. too many kings came from france to takeover it was just the same thing over and over. even begged for them at one point
>what would you pick?
9/11
Wait, do people still believe the sea peoples where THE big proponents of the collapse?
oh look, a mentally disabled person
Wasn't this because some idiot left a door unlocked?
I hope I didn't come across as implying that. That's why I wanted there to be commentary on Systems Collapse as a refutation of commonly held notions of monocausality.
suggest you read on it first before calling others disabled.
>Cortés
Based
this is the only good answer.
But please don;t let americans do it. It will be full of blacks and homosexuals.
This is revolting.
And also hot.
Read what? Historians refer to the fall of Constantinople as a fall, are you really going against generations of historical consensus?
and also from a fanfic
history is debateable.
Id call it a siege. the city didn't fall. its rule did.
Maybe.
Strangely, when Alexander besieged Thebes, he managed to take over the city because someone left one of the gates unattended.
Seems to be a pattern in Greece.
kino
If you want to read the most epic account ever written read "The True History of The Conquest of New Spain", written by a soldier who lived it all firsthand. It's like a mix of Master & Commander, The New World and Lawrence of Arabia on steroids.
In this case it really isn't. The institutions of the Byzantine state did not survive, the religion was overthrown.
The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest
I'd quite like to see a series centered around the sons of Gustav Vasa and their escapades.
>king Gustav I was elected king after freeing Sweden from Danish rule, and in turn basically created modern Sweden
>after his death his second son eloped with a Polish princess, an enemy and a catholic, and was imprisoned by his brother, now the king
>then the king had a mental breakdown, released his brother, and murdered a few nobles in prison
>nobles force him to abdicate and imprison him and put his newly released brother on the throne
>brother then has the old king assassinated
>his son, who is now the king of Poland eventually inherits the Swedish crown
>Gustav I's third son doesn't want no Catholic on the throne and starts a civil war
>wins and becomes king
>makes cuckolding publishable by death
>his son ends up becoming Gustavus Adolphus
Well that or a biopic about Thomas Blake Glover.
Rome getting its ass kicked?
Don't forget about the mentally handicapped fourth brother and Erik marrying the 14-year-old stablemasters daughter pissing off the nobles even more
Thirty Years' War
It would be awesome to see the full might of the British navy on-screen to that degree of detail.
weimar germany and use the most evil hook nosed kike looking actors i can find for every pedo, pimp, and rapist. trying for historical accuracy of course
You could probably do a mini-series about him alone.
>becomes mentally ill
>lives out his days in a refurbished castle
>vandalizes and dress up a bunch of religious statues in provocative clothing just for fun
>kidnaps and murders 3 nuns
>woos a bunch of German mistresses with his sweet ass musical prowess
>jumps from his window into the castle moat because he thought he saw a mermaid
>becomes immortalized in songs and ballads for it
Battle of Grunweld or perhaps the life of Hussite Jan Zizka
I want a show about this guy.
>Lieutenant General Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart(5 May 1880 – 5 June 1963) was a British Army officer born of Belgian and Irish parents. He was awarded the Victoria Cross, the highest military decoration awarded for valour "in the face of the enemy" in various Commonwealth countries. He served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War. He was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear; survived two plane crashes; tunnelled out of a prisoner-of-war camp; and tore off his own fingers when a doctor refused to amputate them. Describing his experiences in the First World War, he wrote, "Frankly I had enjoyed the war.
rent free
What an absolute legend.
>death penalty on cuckolding
Unexpectably based for a Swede. He must have known what he did was part of trying to stamp out his people's selfdestructive tendencies.
>blacks and homosexuals
so Tvrks and Gr*eks?
>the deluge
>it can show the progressing megalmanio, and then see it shattered
>just how horrible war can be the deluge was more destructive to poland than ww2
>every participants fucked shit up
>how fucking bloody battles could be in in the 17th century
it could be kino i'm telling you
Back then we still had some clout.
He had a thing for old Testament laws and made swearing, disobedience towards parents, adultery, sodomy, bestiality and witchcraft all punishable by death. He also started paving the way for the Swedish empire.
Bernal Diaz. One of my favorite books, the sheer level of insanity is unbelievable. If a historically accurate movie or series was made, everyone would be calling it unrealistic bullshit, literally anime tier.
this. Rome meeting the dark, mysterious and barbaric lands of the germans or celts has massive potentional for horror kino like The Terror and Chernobyl
Joan of Arc
gay frenchie
A Heimat-style drama following a family through the 30 years war.
The Diggers and the post English Civil War period. Maybe an adaptation of Carol Churchill's Light Shining in Buckinghamshire
The great northern war is just asking to be made into kino. Battle of Poltava alone is kino enough.
Can't really be done because the "fall" was more of a gradual dissolution. People could be living under a state of affairs where Rome had no power over them for many decades while still being under the impression nothing had really changed.
Possibly the best option would be to make the movie about organizing the response to Atilla the Hun. Explore how the empire is slowing down and ceasing to function in how hard it is to pull an army together. Have the Battle of the Catalunian Plains as the climax but frame it as a Pyrrhic victory that highlights how weakened and ultimately doomed the empire is in the near future. Then you have a central story but you don't need to try and find a specific moment where the fall happened.