My allegiance is to the Republic! To democracy!

>So....(you) will try ?

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>Democracy
>Jedi Council is appointed, not elected

what did they mean by this?

I remember crying in the theater at the end with Padme's funeral and his transformation scenes getting crossed with one another.
Pure kino.

>prequels memes still running strong
>meanwhile no one can name any of the new characters

The chancellor of the republic is elected

By who? I didnt fucking vote for him

The Jedi Council is not supposed to be a political body.

There's no way you're so dumb you couldn't differentiate between the jedi council and the Senate.

People like you are the audience Disney has in mind when it comes to the sequels.

By ET.

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>You guys should do as we say, not as we do

Who are you quoting?

They're autistic. Outside of the internet, no one cares about them.

Get in skribbl.io/?alVXsBywPD

They are generals, they arrest Palpatine ‘in the name of the Galactic Senate’, they are councilors to high-ranking politicians. They clearly are a political entity akin to the praetorian guard. Maybe they don’t have official power but they do have a large amount of influence on those in charge

>not basedboy wan

I don't like Jews

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They have actual SOUL compared to the soulless, market researched toy bait of the new movies

The new movies feel like they were made by a computer

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The Jedi Council itself is really nebulous and contradictory. Because, yes, they're supposed to be "above politics" and "not soldiers of war" .. except that's all they ever seem to do. They act in the interest of the government and are beholden to the Senate. They're basically hypocrite attack dogs of the Republic.
Being generals in a war campaign makes them automatically political.

Anyway Lucas' brain is bitter green apple jello

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When has Padme ever wore that head piece on the far right?

Prequels are funny bad
Sequels are boring bad

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I don’t think she ever did

this is why old republic is based and everything else is cringe. the empire and the republic are just two different factions who both blow up planets and commit war crimes so they can win their wars. the sith and jedi openly support either faction so they can also win their wars.

Remimder that Obi-Wan was a chad and was drowning in pussy during The Clone Wars

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>he doesn't prefer autistic labors of love to corporate garbage designed to sell poz and Funko Pops

>there are people in this imageboard that literally think the prequels are better than the sequels

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prequels suck but were MILES better than any sequel trash

>The Jedi Council is not supposed to be a political body.
Oh come on, by the end of it they were a bunch of superpowered mini dictators will a lot of political pull. That straight up killed anyone who did not listen to them.

they are both on their own and as inspiration for some good expanded universe stuff.

anyone has "your new empire?"
with obi wan with a shit eating grin?

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I would be okay never watching either of them again

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>SOUL compared to the soulless, market researched toy bait of the new movies
They don't. They only exist to sell toys and (really fun) video games.

me on the bottom right

There was a segment when she was being guarded by obiwan and anakin where she went through a half dozen costume changes in just a few scenes. It stood out as ridiculous in the theater but I guess it was meant to highlight her wealth.

If you aren't #intergalacticrefugeeswelcome you're a fascist bigot

In ever single regard. Even the CGI in the prequels is better, I'll say it.

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>t. irl soijack (virgin)

>

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>ignore the democratic will of the senate
>execution without trial

>The new movies feel like they were made by a computer
Ironic, considering that the second biggest thing everyone complained about in the prequels after the bad writing was the over-use of CGI.

CGI is based. The problem is that the new movies feel like their basic premise was assembled by algorithm.

He did NOT execute him, he just didn't save him.
Which is different, would save some random near a pit of lava, risking your own life?
No, you would not.

I’d rather have a bad movie that doubles has an endearing cringe comedy than a bad movie that I forget as soon as I leave the theater.

Because they are

that was some successful bait, user. good job.

The Jedi council is supposed to be like a Swiss royal guard

Ok real talk here
Someone explain to me why Padme died even though there was nothing wrong with her medically, did that bitch die because of SAD or was there something more behind it?
was it the senate?

based and redpilled

>I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death I want to find the person who originally drew soijak and fucking rape him to death

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Many theories, but here's mine:
-being choked to unconsciousness by Anakin and, presumably, being unconscious during the entire ensuing fight scene couldn't be good for a pregnant woman

The prequels were the best trilogy because they mentioned the Republic's tax policy.

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How can people not realise the Jedi being hypocritical assholes is the entire point of the prequels? You haven't stumbled upon a plothole brainlet.

They had better actors anyway

FUCK SAND AND FUCK THE JEDI ORDER

Anakin subconsciously drained her lifeforce in order to survive his injuries and the operation that turned him into Vader. The scene of the operation and Padme dying are intercut, aren't they? And the first thing he asks about is Padme, like he knows he did something.

But uniroinically.

>the first thing he asks about is Padme, like he knows he did something.
He asks if she's alright because his last memory is choking her out and leaving her on lava world unattended

>Prequels: Ambitious story but many aspects badly told despite the potential it had
>Sequels: No overarcing story to speak of besides a vaguely rehashed empire v rebels thing

>Prequels: Lucas' highly autistic but at least memorable dialogue
>Sequels: MCU quips

>Prequels: Many god-tier actors like McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor held back by Lucas' bizarre dialogue but they can still make it shine
>Sequels: Shitt actors all round

>Prequels: Creative ship, planet and alien designs enrich the SW universe and managed to become just as iconic as the OT
>Sequels: OT ships with a small addition, OT planets with a different name, most established SW aliens replaced by generic trash

>Prequels: John Williams fully original score that makes the trilogy feel unique
>Sequels: Rehashed OT themes mixed together

Name one aspect where the sequels outdid the prequels. Even if you consider the prequels to be shitty movies (which they kinda were in many respects), they still did everything better.

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Sooo... why are they allowed to kill the chancellor? They had any proof it was him? Is being a sith a crime? For me Sheev just acted in self defense.

bait of the century

Absolutely based.

zoom zoom

>ugggggggghhhhaaaaaaaaaaa I'm coooooooooooming

What did Anikin mean by this?

>tfw 5 years ago you never thought you'd be saying "prequels did it better"

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The Prequels tried and failed.
The Sequels don't even try at all.

>there was a point in time where the Christmas Special was the worst Star Wars movie
I WANT TO GO BACK

>my allegiance is to democracy
>I must protect my democratic Jedi order which is entirely based on appointments
>what? Put it to a vote if you should be a Jedi master? What is this some kind of Sith trickery?
>by the way our small council of like 6 masters decided for the republic that we want palpatine dead, like any true democratic institution

>every sequel alien has squinty Asian eyes

No wonder these films flop in China

>Chad Christmas Special: Multiple original stories that develop minor characters from the main franchise
>Virgin Sequels: Rehashed shit focusing on the main characters that nobody likes

>Chad Christmas Special: Introduction of wookie holidays to build the world
>Virgin Sequels: Aliens get no screentime or culture

>Chad Christmas Special: Actors still likeable even when they're all clearly off their faces on cocaine
>Virgin Sequels: Actors can't be likeable even with billions of Mousemonies shilling them

>Chad Christmas Special: Multiple musical numbers
>Virgin Sequels: Nobody sings at all

*coughs*

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obi wan was an awful character in the prequels. he should have been more like anakin, a young guy having fun, just slightly morally superior. but they made him too wise and dull and his friendship with anakin was NEVER believable. that and the awfully written love story with padme are the main reasons why these prequels are bad. but the ideas were good. george should have stayed an idea guy

>awfully written love story with padme
George should have stuck with the original script

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>obi wan was an awful character in the prequels
weird way of outing yourself as a faggot but okay

Intentional. The Jedi at the time had become weak, ineffective and hypocritical, much like the Republic itself. Always remember that the CIS had entirely valid reasons for wanting to break away before their cause was co-opted by Sidious.

I never truly realized and appreciated how much the prequels created and shaped.

>>Prequels: John Williams fully original score that makes the trilogy feel unique
>>Sequels: Rehashed OT themes mixed together

Reminder that for Phantom Menace, Williams wasn't sure if Duel of the Fates needed a choir. Lucas encouraged him to keep it.

If the music in ST is just rehashed OT themes mixed together, that's also on the directors.

What does that have to do with anything?

Lucas made good decisions and had a good influence on the creative process?

Tbf all characters were dull apart from sheev. Anakin was too whiny, Obi-Wan too uninvolved with Anakins struggle to be really called his friend and the jedi council was dumb and overly passive throughout the movie.

Has it ever been established that this angle on the republic/jedi was intentional?

Why weren't the CIS just allowed to leave peacefully?
Once you join the Republic, you're forced to stay there forever? How Imperial of them.

All I said was the prequels score was better than the sequels, I don't see how it being due to Lucas or Williams is relevant.

Kind of contradicts that regular narrative that Lucas was nothing but dead weight keeping the real talent down, doesn't it?

I think it meant to mirror the American Civil war with cis being the South(bad) and republic the North(good)

Well yeah, thats always been a BS narrative. I don't see how it contradicts anything I said in my post though is all I'm saying.
Lucas can't really write dialogue for shit, but otherwise to say he was 'dead weight' is retarded

>Yea Forums incels are this mad at people of color and black KINGS

He took a lot of awful decisions, jar jar being the most blatant one. It was also one of the few instances were his team told him that it was a bad character even despite test audiences hating him he kept him in.

>I don't see how it contradicts anything I said in my post though is all I'm saying.

Why did you think it was supposed to contradict it?

>tfw just found my prequels DVD box set I've been missing since 2009
I'm an OTfag but I'll be damned if these movies aren't fun to rewatch even for laughs.

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the fact you think the prequel movies had soul, which were the most soulless things of their time, goes to show how meaningless that term is and how easily manipulated you are by the passage of time.

I watch them for the memes. Watched the OT last time 2003. Prequels are exactly in the sweet spot of so bad it's good.

ohnonononono go back

The dialogue was exactly the way Lucas wanted it to be. What people don't get is that Star Wars was never supposed to be naturalistic. It's a melodramatic space opera that takes after Flash Gordon and classical myth. It's all about grand statements, and dramatic over acting. That was the whole point.

Jar Jar is underratted.

Eh, it's a mixed bag of emotions and judgment.
Sequels are certainly more competently made, but they completely lack any sort of vision, which is a big no no when you're making a follow up to an existing saga which is somewhat internally coherent.

I have no problem with stylistic over realistic dialogue, but that was true of the OT though too, and it was never as bad as some parts of the prequels. Anakin/Padme scenes especially

>It's all about grand statements, and dramatic over acting. That was the whole point.
It's also why Sheev is so great. McDiarmid understood this and went into full scenery chewing mode.

The prequels are more enjoyable to watch, even if the fun comes from them being shitty. The sequels don’t have that “shitty but fun” element. They’re just shitty.

If you watch the OT again, check out the Despecialized version or OT4K.

The prequels were much better written, they had actual characters and story, not a bunch of memes and one-liners that lack any emotion or coherence. Luke is a cliched everyboy "hero" that goes through an absurdly rapid transformation between the fifth and the sixth episodes. Anakin's emotional instability and his exposure as a psychopath are gripping; and his doomed relationship with Padme is touching. In the "original trilogy" Han, Leia, Darth Vader and Obi Wan are complete meme characters, nothing about them is remotely believable or human. And why doesn't anyone care about deaths in those movies? Leia's planet destruction, Luke's stepparents' death, all of the blown up rebels--the list could go on--all the deaths are forgotten moments later.

As for direction, the movies from the "original trilogy" were mostly incoherent, badly edited and full of logical problems. The prequel trilogy is a work of a "vulgar auteur".

I feel neutral about the series overall, and honestly don't care about trolling or contrarianism. Here are my sincere rankings:

1. "Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones"
2. "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace"
3. "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith"
4. "Star Wars"
5. "The Empire Strikes Back"
6. "Return of the Jedi"
7.
8. "The Force Awakens"
9. "The Last Jedi"

Episode 7 and 8 aren't even Star Wars movies. They are Marvel flicks masquerading as one.

starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/#!/BLV4jcKIX8qtwmqizBI-

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kek

this, it's like watching the room with laser swords.
That may worked for the ot but the overall tone and cut decisions made in the prequels totally ruin it. I remember that one scene in ep I where there is first a sad moment about anakin and his mom which directly cuts to a jar jar fart joke with an ugly creature. You have dozens of examples where the movies ruin the tone with bullshit like this.

Duel of the fates was originally Obi's theme and had a choir and instrumental versions right from the start, there wasn't really any confusion when it comes to this.

The non-choir version was never used in the movie and technically could be considered lost media, a short loop of it can only be found in the PC version of The Phantom Menace videogame from 1999.

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Oh, on top of that, the non-choir version is in a different key, sounds less dramatic but more adventurous and mixes with other action pieces. At least that's what can be said after what was released, which isn't a lot.

hello there

god damn you just KNOW

I prefer something that tries and fails to something that attempts nothing and serves no more purpose than bump up Disney's stock. Even when George was just trying to sell toys he did with an imagination and vision that was compelling. I loved that shit as a kid. Even as it made older fans REEEEE, I was hooked to it. I can see the faults now but at the time my feelings were real. Kids today don't care about Star Wars. It's made for an "adult" audience, ie it's full of woke bullshit. George spends half the prequels shitting on Bush but it's not noticeable unless it's pointed out to you.

There is a good story in the prequels that was not properly told. Just look at the success of the adapted material if you don't believe me.

the prequels had their own path

meanwhile episode 9 has rehashed SUPER MEGA DEATHSTAR DESTROYER FLEETS and EMPEROR PALPATINE (again)

how utterly boring

I'd place Revenge above the other two prequels

The empire strikes back is the only good star wars movie

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>NOOO ANAKIN DON'T HAVE SEX

>They are Marvel flicks masquerading as one.

It's more like they want to be Marvel flicks but can't even meet that standard, either.

This, but unironically

>AAAARGKKKK I HATE YOUU

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edit: wow guys thanks for the (You)s! I had no idea it would blow up!

>OBI WAN HELP MY DICK IS ON FIRE AAAAAHHHHH

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This, RotS is easily the strongest of the 3
RotS>TPM>AofC

The prequels are better than the OT
There's a lot of P O T T E R Y in that scene. Notice how Anakin is screaming out "Padme, help me" but his vocal cords are too charred to actually say it.
>I felt her, she was alive
Anakin killed Padme (he drained her lifeforce, perhaps unknowingly) and Sidious knew it. He really had discovered the secret of extending life but ironically the opposite way to Plageuis. That's why he didn't even bother to challenge him. Why the fuck would he need to save others, when he could save himself.

t.seething commie jewdi

5 > 4 > 3 > 6 > ROGUE ONE > 1 > 2 > 7
I didn't saw solo or last jedi so I don't know about those

>too autistic to grasp what Lucas spells out with obvious exposition

Anakin did it. The movie borderline actually confirms it.
>I felt her she was alive
>No explanation for death; will to live
>Sheev actually figured out the opposite technique to Plageuis so he just choked him to death for a laugh rather than actually challenge him and succeed him
>The timing of the heartbeats
>That cheeky smile on Sheevs face knowing he just pulled off a classic Sith prank

>I FELT HER
>IT SEEMS IN YOUR ANGER YOU KILLED HER
Palpatine wasn't on Mustafar at the start. Think about it. Life extending techniques, tragedy, irony. The very obvious timings of the intertwined scenes. George practically spelled it out

Brainlet take. Movies are not documentaries. The scenes are portrayed in a particular way so as to convey a deliberate message or information.

Eh alright you've won me over

congrats on the (You)s

>Listen, strange aliens lyin' in space distributin'
lightsabers is no basis for a system of government!

Bloody peasant

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Fairly put. Have a You.

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sequel alien seem better desu

>It's a melodramatic space opera that takes after Flash Gordon and classical myth. It's all about grand statements, and dramatic over acting. That was the whole point.
Go watch a Kurosawa film to see how this is done correctly, then compare it to Star Wars.

If I wasn't a phoneposting nigger right now, I'd try to actually explain it, but it's pretty obvious I think if you rewatch the scenes that at the very least Padme didn't just go "fuck it I'm out" and the choking didn't kill her as Obi Wan "confirms" this to the audience (christ he borderline gives you a cheeky nudge and wink)

>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T STEAL RILEYS WIFE

Exactly. It was never supposed to be "good". It was clearly directed in a way which subverted your ordinary understanding of dialogue. Anybody that doesn't like Star Wars dialogue work doesn't get the point of advancing acoustic cinema,

Based and redpilled

And then there are retards

The prequels are infused with a bold vision of artistic profundity that eclipses the likes of generic sci-fi movies of recent times. The streamlining process that has begun to creep into the production of every slightly sci-fi-y tinged movie has created an amorphous blob of mediocrity and blandness. The prequels deliver a basic premise of good vs. evil but do it so by utilizing characters that are endowed with humanity. Aside from the storytelling aspect the prequels stand strong on all fronts, from writing, cinematography and set pieces that truly immerse you into a fantastic world full of wonder and awe. It is infinitely unfortunate that this behemoth of a film project is marred by the majority of the populace's inability to assess the genius and lack of intelligence. One can only hope that in eons to come, evolution will have worked in ways as to ensure and maximize the distribution of the gene that thrives in the intellectual minority of our time so that future generations and civilizations will be able to grasp the grandeur of the prequels and see behind the masquerading illusion that is reddit.

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My normie ass gf LIKES the sequels and yet still can't name a single character while she knows the OT and PT kike the back of her hand because of memes.

>George should have stuck with the original script
?

nice reddit comic! all my upboats sir!

stop watching childrens movies

>smol

Like an evian bottle

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Stop using meaningless arguments first

I can see her nipples, what a whore.

*Growls*

What atrocities did the Emperor actually commit?

This but unironically the amount of retards who say they're confused by the prequels is staggering

cute

>Dude lmao why was an autistic slave space monk virgin poorly socialised child soldier instrument of the force not smooth as fuck when he was talking to a prime Natalie Portman that rescued him from slavery and is also the queen of a planet and a galactic senator, especially knowing that he has been brainwashed by his religious order that abducts children to think that forming attachments to a human being is evil. Why didn't he just be himself

>Stop using meaningless arguments first

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shitty soulless cashgrab from tired old man or shitty disingenuous social change pushing propaganda product from glorious cultural leaders at Disney Inc

Episode 3 alone is better than anything the sequels have produced. Episode 1 and 2 are up for debate.

But fight wise they have absolutely nothing on the prequels. Imagine having John fucking Williams and NOT giving him a chance to possibly top the prequel score.

Say what you will about the prequels but they were Williams' peak.

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>Stop defending children's movies

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If you rewatch the prequels they have a CONSISTENT story that follows through to the end. Even if it's messy at least it always comes down to Anakins rise and fall.

Say it.

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>OT and PT kike the back of her hand because of memes.

Nice typo

Man, your life must be so awesome.

>Dude why would a guy who grew up as a slave with his mother on a shitty desert planet hate sand I mean what a dumbass everyone loves sand it's the GOAT

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The funny thing is neither of them were made by Lucas.

Why should people without force powers be allowed to vote who's going to be in the Jedi counsel? They are a religious Delta Force that managed everything internally.

Get em' user, put these Disneyshills to shame!!!

THE JEDI WERE LITERALLY WHORES, THE WHORE OF BABYLON, ONLY ARMED LIKE A FUCKING TANK AND READY TO SWOOSH THEIR FIST RIGHT THROUGH YOUR STERNUM, EFFECTIVELY SEVERING AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MAJOR VEINS, REMOTELY AND IRREVELANTLY LINKED? YES, MULTIPLE JEDIS HAVE OR MIGHT HAVE RAPED SEVERAL OR NUMEROUS PEOPLE AS THEY SAY, MULTIPLE TIMES, INEQUIVOCALLY, THIS IS A FACT AND GEORGE LUCAS (JUDAS?) TOLD US, WARNED US, HE WAS THERE BUT WE WEREN'T, THIS IS WHAT LIVING ACCORDING TO YOUR EMOTIONAL CENTRE REALLY MEANS, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. THE JEDIS REPRESENT THIS FOR BETTER OR WORSE AND WELL THEN WHAT CAN WE DO NEVERTHELESS? NOTHING, MAYBE, WHO NOSE, MAYBE LUCAS? MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN'T, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT NUMEROUS TIMES IN A ROW, FAILING EFFICIENTLY AND WONDERFULLY, FOREVER AND INTO NOTHINGNESS, AS IT IS OF COURSE. THANK YOU.

based schizo

he's not a schizo

no, thank YOU

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Is it just shitposting?

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I shit on democracy and on republicanism. They are nothing but empty words that the rats in power have used since times immemorial to protect their power. Only wealth and quality of life matter. The rest is empty logorrhea that doesn't exist.

Stop making sense user, consume meme and respect system, these are the rules

But wait, how is that possible???? Red Tribe told me you can only be Red or Blue tribe?? HURR

Say what you want about the prequels, but they were probably the last stand of any kind of creativity in Hollywood. It has just been hyper focus tested REFERENCE QUIP REFERENCE QUIP REFERENCE QUIP ever since

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>Stop it Leia we cant you’re my SISTER is wrong nooooo!

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Obi-Wan Quipnobi

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not like they could see the tiny details