Why did this based kino trigger so much outrage?

>oh no the Jews killed him so he could save me from my and everyone else's sins how evil

based family

But Christians do.

The Jews didn’t know it would save people’s sins.

True they even wrote a whole new canon, being the Talmud, to distance their people from Christ.

>The crowd of Jews weren't having it and all were calling for him to be crucified.
Why would the Romans care what the jews think in the first place?
Why would the jews calls for someone's crucifixion, when crucifixtion was a punishement common in Roman law and not in jewish law?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion

I thought it was hilarious. Watching Christians and Jews arguing and depating over childish fiction is and making a fool of both of themselves is quite a good time.

Can practically see the fedora from here.

>t. worships actual childish fiction

Also why jesus had been crucified with the writing "king of the jews" above his head?

>Why would the jews calls for someone's crucifixion
Why indeed.

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>childish fiction
>most historians agree the events happened

Knowing the romans they did did it as a joke.

Romans were and occupations power. It would be easier to silence subjects through one sadistic act than to subjugate thousands

>Western power in a sandy shithole
Some things never change

>Why would the jews calls for someone's crucifixion, despite it not being part of jewish law, and despite never calling or someone's crucifixion before that
why indeed

>Historians
I've yet to see any evidence that child demons existed or that a corpse was reanimated and able to walk.

>Why would the Romans care

To stop a potential revolt. The Romans gave the Pharisees a lot of autonomy in the land in order to keep the peace.

The Cope. lol

Back to r*ddit

Yeah, turning water into wine did happen

So Zombies and demon children literally existed in 1st-Century AD while they all just mysteriously vanished by the time of our existence then? Good to know that you're 100% sure.

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is it your first day here?

Anyone who likes this movie or literally believes in anything in it is ironically a Jew lover.

>The Romans gave the Pharisees a lot of autonomy in the land in order to keep the peace
They didn't tho. Judea was just another Roman province, and it was governed by a Roman prefect. Jews didn't even could judge offenders by their own laws by the time jesus was crucified, and why would he be crucified with the title "king of the jews" in the first place?

Is it yours?

>jews review-bombed this film into oblivion and blacklisted Based Mel for making it
>Anyone who likes this movie is ironically a Jew lover

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spreading confusion and gaslighting is one of their favorite tactics. it's better to ignore them than to engage

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>Why did this based kino trigger so much outrage?

Because ((they)) killed him, ((they)) know their blood is on their hands forever and ((they)) know they are FUCKED BIG TIME.

wew its like you think you've made a point or something

I'm going to do something crazy and try to defend the Jewish position on Yea Forums. If you were a Jew back then and you believed Jesus was not the Messiah as was misleading people with false teaching, would be you wrong to go to the authorities and demand they stop him by whatever means necessary?

Even though He made it obvious He was the Messiah? Remember: many, many Jews followed Jesus and became the first Christians.

>watch movie
>check wikipedia
tfw he really died for our sins

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>state your name cuz
>Pharisee
>what are we doing today
>killing the Christ innit

I knew this heeb way back who wouldnt shut the fuck up about this movie. Massively triggered.

Why would Israel enact jewish supremacism and nazi policies while at the same time calling everyone else a white suprematist and a nazi?

So they ordered him to be crucifed as "king of the jews", makes total sense

Wow I guess jews really had no power, it's totally a coincidence a short time later they managed to genocide most romans and greeks living in those lands. Totally sounds like they had no power at all.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish–Roman_wars

>yes guys let's stop arguing about these stupid fairy tales. Anyway I just cut my dick off and I am wearing a wig, so you better call me Priscilla from now on you fucking nazi. THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED, I AM A WOMAN

It wouldn't be wrong, but they knew he was the Messiah. They just wanted to force God to send one that would enable their wishes, just like they killed the prophets before who warned them not to act like cunts. They thought that because they were promised shit, then they could act like assholes and God would just take it indefinitely.

>revolting because lack of self-governance is having self-governance
whoa, you must be a genius

It's all too comical that you try to validate your point by using a war that the Romans won and one that lost more Jewish casualties than Romans. l

well, he was jewish, and he was a preacher
what's your point again? it's like you think you're telling Christians something new

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>sympathy for the devil starts playing in the credits
seriously mel?

If jews are held accountable as a collective for a death that happened 2000 year ago, does that mean that Romans and their descendants are accountable for actually crucifying Christ, or persecuting the early christians for hundreds of years to come?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire

>nooooo, movies have to be accurate!

Difference is the current italians don't deny Rome's crimes. Now see what was jews's reactions to this movie.

I really liked that they show Pontius washing his hands after he has given the sentence to Jesus. That small detail is always good to show considering its overall message that Pontius is not absolved from the sin of condemning an innocent to his death.

The thing is that Romans and the current Italians are aware of what they've done and thats that. Jews on the other hand are of course doing what Pontius Pilate has done - washing their hands from the deed that they themselves have condemned a fellow jew whose ideas are incredibly radical at that time.

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Not my point. If they had the power to revolt like that, they had the power to pressure Pilate into sentencing Christ.

Are you really that dense? The point is that they had enough political power to convince Romans to do something like that.

The guilt is on those whose duty was to follow Christ. Romans back then were pagans, they didn't have enough knowledge and awareness to be held accountable. Furthermore, it was the religious leader of jews that gave the order, so they represented their peoples, whereas Pilate only represented a garrison of soldiers, it's something completely different. Without even mentioning that Rome did convert later on, whereas jews stubbornly continue not to.

>Offers a murderer and criminal to be released or Jesus
>Jews choose criminal
even Pontius Pilate was disgusted

When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but that instead a riot was breaking out, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “You bear the responsibility.” All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”

>hey had the power to pressure Pilate into sentencing Christ.
That's why he was crucified with the sign "kign of the jews", makes total sense. Also why jews never ordered anyone else to be crucified before and after jesus, unlike the Romans? Really makes me think
>it was the religious leader of jews that gave the order, so they represented their peoples
Just like the leaders of Rome represented their peoples through hundreds of years of christian persecution?

>Also why jews never ordered anyone else to be crucified before and after jesus, unlike the Romans?
prob cause stoning Jesus on passover would have been controversial so better to just make the romans do it

Why would it be controversial when stoning was enshrined in jewish law, and Romans presumably didn't care for Jesus?

literally nobody denies the crimes of the romans
jews are a very different story

>That's why he was crucified with the sign "kign of the jews"
How does that change anything, my grasping at straws friend? Pilate did it that way as a form of legitimization because he didn't want the jews to completely move him like a puppet or he would lose face (jews wanted him to write king of Israel instead). That in no way disproves my point.

>Just like the leaders of Rome represented their peoples through hundreds of years of christian persecution?
Of course, but Roman leaders then converted and promoted Christianity. When your leaders also do the same we will welcome them with open arms.
Either way we're talking about the Crucifixion here, and roman leaders had very little to do with it, so responsibility isn't the same no matter how much you grasp at straws

>Why would it be controversial when stoning was enshrined in jewish law,
Because it would have directly incited a riot doing it and then romans then would just kill everyone if jews started rioting, also the roman's didn't care much about jesus at all he even supported them paying tax to rome and was against jews who said he should lead them to overthrow rome

>why yes I have only seen the bible miniseries and not read the bible but am debating theology online

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You didn't even pretend to look into it?
The yid internal administration had no power to put someone to death at the time. They had to get Roman approval, and the Romans ended up doing the execution work themselves most of the time. Besides, it was the holiest sabbath of the year, and yids wouldn't do it that day because they would be no time for purification before Pessah. The whole thing couldn't be delayed because the crowd was already rallied and hot. So getting the Roman to do the dirty work was an all win.

Pilate literally washed his hands of the thing and asked the Jews to take his blood.
>His blood be on us and our descendants
As for the empire massacring Christians for some time, you don't see many larpers saying they dindu nuffin, and the Romans ended being the main instrument of spreading Christianity.

Pilate was the prefect appointed by Rome, so why would the jews have any authority over him? And why would they want to write "king of israel" to begin with if they didn't believe Jesus was the messiah? Also how come prefect crucify him because jews asked him to, but Romans had no problems crucifying numerous christians, throwing them to the lions etc. after that? All these facts disprove the narrative being touted in some religious book that's written years aftet the actual death of christ

Also regarding your second point, you hold a grudge against an entire collective for the crucifixion of one person, yet doesn't care about the endless crucifixions after that, even though they were literally authorized by the leaders of Rome themselves (remember Nero for example), and your justification is that their descendants have converted to chridtianity. So basically you're holding a grudge because jews aren't converting to your religion of choice, how does that make you any different than jewish and muslim supremacists?