APOLOGIZE

I have never seen a single marvel movie. It's just not good.

I was going to watch it either way.

It's a boring drama. Chicks will love it.

Faggot

It's overwrought, utterly predictable, totally lacks payoff, the resolution is not satisfying. The acting is frequently wooden, especially the computers, which sound like they're from a low budget video game

this

At least they don't keep bobbing up and down when they walk.

Can confirm.

Unironically better than Insterteller, Gravity, and The Martian

Unfiltered Bradkino with a dash of based TMJ

Also blackpills the audience on the fact that aliens very likely don't exist and space travel is a waste of resources that humanity will only corrupt with capitalism, war, and fights over resources

Did we even see the same movie? Two hours of pointless build-up in one of the most confusingly retarded and uninformed portrayals of a spacefaring future I've ever seen in a big-name movie that wants you to take it seriously.

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yellowpilled

Gravity was terrible though so that's not exactly high praise.

How could it so arrogantly say "aliens don't likely exist." And so what if we eventually corrupt it? We shouldn't explore it. It sounds horrible if that's what it does.

How?

Its good, not great.

It a good telling of Heart of Darkness.

>Also blackpills the audience on the fact that aliens very likely don't exist and space travel is a waste of resources that humanity will only corrupt with capitalism, war, and fights over resources
Maybe if you're a capeshit brainlet that knew as much about space travel and exploration as the retard who wrote what semblance of a story this movie had.

>unhook me

Coming from a family with a piece of shit father, this part hit me pretty hard.

Women will never understand this film, therefore it’s quite good.

It has Nice Visuals.

Its the same level as say Gravity. The plot structure is better, but there is little momentum throughout the film which is a major issue with it. That and it uses Narration to move the plot. And this is throughout the movie, not just in a major timeshift or such.

There's been a few space movies of late. I'd love it to replace Capeshit. It won't though because women find anything science related totally boring. "It's just a load of rocks and shit", to quote a girl I tried to watch Last Man with.

knowing about "space travel" doesn't qualify you to speculate about the societal trajectories of space-faring humanity. that's more the realm of, perhaps, a writer, not somebody who knows alot of maths and exploring

Because being a leftist is inherently correlated to being arrogant.

Personally I loved it. It's going to bomb at the box office though

Why is no one replying to my post?

I just got out a bit ago. Honestly, it sucked. It tries and fails to be Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now in space.

This, 100%. Really very disappointing.

>"Best space movie in years"

What the fuck does that even say? There's like 1 proper space movie per year.

the virgin ad astra vs the chad high life

I wasn't even tapping on the "maths and exploring." This shit was utterly garbage even from a writer's perspective, from the silly ass resource wars bullshit to the fucking Virgin Atlantic rockets that demonstrate whoever put this half-assed setting together didn't even bother to skim Wikipedia beforehand.

All it really had going for it was the special effects and some of the spacecraft designs. The rest was some 13 year old's notebook doodles someone tried to turn into a blockbuster.

Saw it, all spoilers
It may not be the greatest sci fi movie by any means, but it's one of the most important sci fi movies ever made. Because it shows the bullshit of space travel, how horrible it would be, how anti human and alienating it would be. At the same time its epic sci fi, like a 50s vision of a square jawed Heilein esque hero that checks out the moon, Mars and Neptune, but comes home to earth with an atlas of the universe and the terrible knowledge that we are alone in the universe.

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>totally lacks payoff, the resolution is not satisfying
I enjoyed it but this is definitely true

>tfw daddy McBride didn't say "I love you son" once
What the FUCK man, even after 30 years?

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It is one of the best. This movie will age well. Literally the only thing bad about this was the pleb wife subplot that had less than 5 minutes screentime at most. Kino performance, visuals, ost and pacing. The normies in my theater were yawning after the first 45 minutes, but I was fully engaged. The third act is surprisingly introspective rather than action focused. Seriously how did they fucking get away with this? The entire Neptune sequence was pure space bliss.

What's Armond said?

Good acting, good visuals, good overall story themes but I'm slightly irritated that all crucial plot points are glossed over in order to give more screen time to the psychological element.

my boy Hoyte was the DP for this, worked on Interstellar too

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My main problem is that Brad Pitt's character was a little too competent. He knew exactly how to operate everything, even the nukes and shit.

>Space command
Makes sense that he'd be dealing with military stuff too. This isn't like NASA, they're literally a military branch for space.

Just saw it at IMAX. I liked it, but the pacing felt a little off. The character motivations and some really weird plot sequences just didn't make sense to me. It's more of a self discovery and redemption type of film with space as the setting. It looked nice, and I thought it had some interesting ideas but I kept finding myself shaking my head at certain points. If you're an autist it will annoy you though, as the physics are laughable and there we some scenes that added nothing to the film.

A Major would likely have had operational experience as a Lieutenant, if the Space Force is similar at all to the Army. Lieutenant and Captain McBride would have had spent plenty of time training for space flight and maneuver, especially since they say he's an exceptional soldier and astronaut.

Gravity was great in some regards. Just a survival movie in space with the best big busget portrayal of orbital mechanics ever even if it put the ISS, HST, and Chinese station within arms reach of eachother.

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Reddit shows its true colours once again. This movie is confirmed pleb filter.

I think there are a lot of things to criticize about the plot but the wife scenes are essential. She's not a subplot, it's the core message of the whole movie that the protagonist won't repeat his dad's mistakes. At the beginning he says he won't be distracted and she is in the unfocused background, all blurry. At the end she's in full view because he finally has full focus on his life.

The voiceovers was so Malick, but there was no spiritual component in the movie. I'm sorry, I don't know any big words. It was humanistic, and that part was beautiful. Yet, it had me yearning for more.

I know what it means, I felt like it didn't need to be there and was tacked on. How many times have we seen movies where this happens? The cliche wife subplot is in almost every survival type movie. It took me out the movie in those minor scenes. The rest of the stuff is where it's at.

In one scene when he's at the cockpit he access the files for operating the nukes. It's a bit hamfisted but it does make sense that they have a file on it. It's not something the crew would be briefed about once and then two months later if they forget a switch they're all doomed.

Interstellar >> Ad Astra > The Martian >>>>>> Gravity

>ad astra is one of the only space movies in years

That end reshoot scene was painfully obvious.
He bassically just spells out what the thomas of the movie where.

absolute truthie being dropped here by the one and only Afghanistan Cricket Team

The original script ending was better

What was it? Dies with dad or what?

The movie should have ended when the military dude reaches out his arm and brad pittu looks at him

I mean he was an exremely competent individual that has been through all sorts of shit. It's not far fetched for him to know what to do, especially considering they give astronauts a fucking book full of checklists for every damn thing they do and he had like 4 months to prepare.

Brad Pitt ASMR movie, boring. if i was gay, maybe i could have jerked off.

>you now remember the interstellar original script where chinese drones invent time travel on miller's planet and create worm holes and shit

>that river rapid sequence with alien germs
imagine if nolan did that

I don'tdon't get the hate for Gravity. It wasn't anything special other thsn a survival movie in space with excellent visuals and realistic orbital mechanics. It tried to do the whole rebirth thing and fell flat but I don't think that's enough to write off the good.

>ywn get actual germ aliens made of millions of pounds of individual organisms

I'm not going to argue it's 100% unique and original but it seems like a logical progression in the story. The father ignored his family, the protagonist stopped doing that. It could have been an ignored child or mother or brother, it could have been any estranged family member and didn't have to be a wife. Is it only because it's an estranged spouse that you don't view it favorably?

The way they handled it is still better than most, I mean we are seeing everything from his perspective and we hear this thoughts. But it would be better if it weren't in the movie because I feel like that isn't the focus.

Gravity would be a lot better if the cast was different. Never before have I seen a technically brilliant movie ruined by retarded normie casting.

>dude falls from low orbit and almost dies
>"I should feel something, I should feel something"
>dude gets attacked by lunar pirates
>operator girl: "your heart monitor didn't show any change during the attack, probably broken, you might wanna check that"

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Gets to his dads ship only to fund it empty and when he gets inside he sees recordings of his dad .He is distrought because they found no sign of life in deep space and aknowledges how alone we really are.The antimatter explosion is the crew trying to create a miniature bigbang so that life could start again.
In the end Roy just leaves the ship in 3D printed craft and he blows up his dads ship.
Also,there is no wife.He mostly tries contacting his mom and Ruth Nagga's character is his half sister.She dies killed by Spacecom guys and he realizes their connection because something his dad says in the recordings

The isolation was portrayed well but the physics were awful and had me shaking my head. Buy I'm borderline autistic so take that as you will.

was that the script that was posted here a while ago?

Somewhat similar in style to Soderbergh's Solaris.
I enjoyed it more than interstellar and gravity. Haven't seen Jason Bourne on Mars.
Bradkino

>Haven't seen Jason Bourne on Mars.
That was normie sci fi at best. The mars stuff was alright but my god, the earth stuff ruins it for me.

>Haven't seen Jason Bourne on Mars.
Nasa propaganda attempting to appeal to a reddit-core audience, the only actual good parts of it are the things Ridley Scott is good at, the space ship/crew banter stuff.
not worth watching

the martian is underrated
once you get past the reddit shit its a good flick

I agree. This and First Man are the best films where part of them take place in space. It's very flawed but it's on the verge of being great, fuck the studio for fucking Gray over in the ending portion of the film. Fuck them.
It's definitely worth seeing in cinema. Even if you don't like it, the visuals are great.

I will never forgive bourne on mars for censoring this.

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Why? The space travelling was pretty good. The whole film is also much better than Interstellar.

Because you're gay.

>confusingly retarded and uninformed portrayals of a spacefaring future
what? next you're gonna say you can't just jump into spooky water and climb onboard a rocket during launch

The only thing it had going for it was the portrayal of isolation. The mechanics were awful.

I agree, the script ending was better. I also liked that they didn't show him getting to Earth and his message to mom was really good. This film is compromised unfortunately, it could have been better because the last third, which was changed, is the worst part of the film.
Yes

What was bad about them

>The space travelling was pretty good.
They did a decent job filling the movie out between each shitty, pointless and irrelevant place for sure, but it doesn't really redeem it.
>The whole film is also much better than Interstellar.
I'm not much of a shill for this movie either but... did you even see it? It's also stupid and pessimistic, but not nearly as stupid as that pointless, bland shitfest was. There's not even a comparison to make, here.
Whoever was in charge of building the world for this movie had literally no fucking idea what they were doing or what space-faring society would look like.

Yes, it was better than Interstellar. Nice character study and it had emotional core that Interstellar tries to have but lacks. The ending part of Interstellar is terrible. This one also has problems in the last third but it's still engaging.

what's your opinion on moon buggy pirates

Damn, why did audiences hate it? It wasn't amazing, but it certainly wasn't bad.

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Space to normies means star wars and avengers.

So I really enjoyed the movie but it was absolutely butchered in the theatrical cut. Great movie regardless, but I feel like there's a 4 hour directors cut thats the superior version of the film. In the trailers there was that scene with the orgy / hologram ram ranch cowboys that would've elaborated more on stuff going on on either the moon or mars.

That was on Mars. It was definitely tainted by the studio.

Anyone else feel it went on a bit too long when he's on his own? Thought it'd never end

When he's traveling from Mars to Neptune I think it was meant to convey that feeling. The movie has a lot to do with the human and psychological aspect of spacetravel.

>and it had emotional core that Interstellar tries to have but lacks
What emotional core? It was just Brad Pitt monologuing about loneliness and his daddy issues for two hours, with the unexpected plot twist being that... after two hours of waiting we find daddy is still alive and really was the piece of shit they told you he was from the beginning! So deep!
Were you paid to post that? I seriously don't understand how anyone could feel anything for these characters. They were dull as fuck.
Great action and visuals, but retarded premise.
>s-stupid capeshit! people just don't understand how DEEP it was!

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>stopping mid transit to mars for a mayday being trivial
>TLI not potrayed correctly
>staging of vehicles way off
>crew jumping out of their chairs mid liftoff to shoot at someone on a fucking spacecraft
>hopping on a rocket as it's lifting off
>flying to neptune taking a couple months
>'orbital degredation' at neptune meaning the lima ship is parked a few hundred yards away under the ring
>the ring is made of large rocks
>using a fucking rotating radar array to launch yourself at the fucking ship
I could go on, tbe Iron Man sequnce from The Martain or fire extinguiser fron Gravity was more realistic.

>It was just Brad Pitt monologuing about loneliness and his daddy issues for two hours
That emotional core.
>Were you paid to post that? I seriously don't understand how anyone could feel anything for these characters. They were dull as fuck.
No. Diffrent strokes for different folks i guess. No.

Yeah where the fuck did that go?? I feel like a directors cut will be kino.

Speaking on wonky physics, when the nuke detonated at the end the main character was blinded by light. What was the light reflecting from? The explosion was strictly behind his ship.

im drunk right now but please m boss iy makig me do consant simulations of crankc-nicolson + darcys law to simualte the sublimation of water out of lunar/mars soil and hadnling the different boundary conditions is a nightmare and we have to give a talk in a few weeks in luxemborg

me so soly

So we're getting a Redux version to rip off of Apocalypse Now even more? Maybe they'll add a Playboy concert in there while they're at it

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Yeah nukes in space don't operate that way either. He'd probably have been fried from xrays alone. You would't get a nice push other than your ass caporized through your face.

But what emotion was in that? It was just bland. There was no depth, no development whatsoever. No goals, no point. You spent two hours waiting for something interesting to happen, then the credits rolled.

The final act was also changed. I don't even remember the voice over in the script. Wife also wasn't in the script, i really wonder how much of this was Gray changing it and how much studio forcing him to change it.

Goodluck user.

It's a shame seeing a film not being understand and being absolutely killed by the test audiences. I'm looking forward to seeing the original cut of the film, assuming we'll see that in a directors cut.

I think the voiceover actually complemented the film.

Are there aliens. Who bad guy. What's the blue stuff from the trailers? Let me guess. The bad guy is his dad.

So basically more do nothing, why achieve anything, nihilistic commie blackpill garbage.

There's not bad guy in the film.

>cool. You came son. Lets go oh wait nvm suicide lmao
Character motivations were fucking awful. Some of the writing was dogshit.

>movie ends with main character looking directly at the screen and saying he's grown up emotionally
wtf so kino

>There was no depth, no development whatsoever. No goals, no point.
The goal was to meet his father. He has development, he goes from emotionless and he starts showing cracks as he goes along. Then he finds out what's important and that he should change. He leaves his father behind, finally shedding the burden and coming back to Earth a changed person. It's fine if you don't like it, but if you say there was no development or change i really wonder whether you have actually seen the film.

*walks with attitude towards the screen for several seconds"

so powerful, so brave

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What's the climax of movie.

It's actually a pretty secular film. About finding purpose in a world without God.
I don't agree with the message but I enjoyed the movie.
The 'is there life out there?' theme is more of a metaphor.
It's a blackpill movie.

I'M SOLLY BRADU

This. And the niggress general and black Mexican. And the old Asian lady captain. And the black lieutenant on the moon....

It's all so tiresome.

>black women in important space leadership/astronaut position
And that's where my immersion was killed

Probably the confrontation with his father when he gets to neptune

People told me this was interstellar but done right by an actually talented auteur director. After seeing this pile of boring dogshit I am now wondering if "film buffs" just force themselves to like whatever boring shit if it's done by an "auteur".

But she's not in an important role. She's literally told she's nto immportant as soon as she appears

I think people are overthinking about this blackpill. The main character says "there's no one out there, it's just us" because it's a jab, he criticizes his father for being obsessed with finding life far away while not paying attention to people close to him. It's an emotional pun, not a nihilist philosophical bomb. The main character preciously saved his father's data, which means he valued his work. If the message of the movie was "fuck space exploration", he would have tossed out the data.

>Pitt kills half of the minorities in the film
Heh nothing personal kid
>boring
Why?

Tell me about the monkeys. Do you see them kill people?

She wasn't important enough to hang out and yet she had having extremely important confidential information (a video log) that the protagonist didn't have, with zero explanation, just so she could squeeze in front of the camera and move the plot forward. Quality writing.

One person is killed by monkey.

One is eating the captains face. You see his mangled hand and noseless face.

Good fucking job BRRADUUU

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Why do you think I'm coping so hard? I wasted $20 and two hours of my life on a brainlet daddy issue sob story pretending to be a nerd flick.

found the pleb

>Years
First Man was last year, right?

It's obviously Chinese people saying they don't like the movie. It's why critics rate it at 10% and viewers rate it at 50%.

I agree but that would've been super cliche, kinda like the end of gravity

Same. It was ok at best.

>pretending to be a nerd flick.
Blame the trailers. the movie is completely different in tone and style. Every action scene in the movie is all in the trailers because they realise they have to sell it to normies if they even want to make back at least their budget. Should have gotten terence malick to edit the trailers baka

>confrontation
"hey son I really never did love or care about you after all haha just like everyone already said like an hour ago and you yourself have come to realize"
*kills himself after 4 minutes on the screen*
i cri every time so emotional
99% of the movie could have been cut and it wouldn't have mattered, there was no climax or story to speak of

What is the difference with Lost City of Z?
Why is Ad Astra being praised while Z was dumped in VOD and forgotten?

In the script she had much bigger role, there was a role which was completely cut but some of it was carried to her character from what i remember.
I wouldn't call it brainlet flick at all, it's certainly not that accessible in terms of blockbusters. It's kind of strange since the film seems to be pulled into two different directions, arty and then blockbuster. I think that everybody who knows James Gray knew that there will be some interpersonal drama.
Did you go alone? $20?

They are companion pieces, both of are praised but also disliked by lot of people. Ad Astra is being talked about because of the large budget, it's more mainstream effort.

They get gunned down. Is monkey just one scene? More detail if you don't mind.

They answer a distress call on some animal carrying spacecraft, the animals escaped and murdered the crew, Brad shoots one monkey, spaces the second one and whatever other form of life was on board (the 2nd one literally blows up)

This sounds better, that would've been a good ending. Take out the moon buggy chase and apes, remove some of the narration, add this ending and polish up the science a little bit more and it would've been a masterpiece. I still think it was a good movie though.
I really liked the Martian aesthetics.

>Is monkey just one scene?
Yes
>More detail if you don't mind.
Kek. What is it with you and your monkey fetish

The voice over isn't in the script but the chase and monkey is in so i doubt he would have taken that out.

better Astra coming thru. they should have made live action of this instead

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>Also blackpills the audience on the fact that aliens very likely don't exist and space travel is a waste of resources that humanity will only corrupt with capitalism, war, and fights over resources

So the very opposite of interstellar thematically?

I haven't watched ANYTHING this guy has directed because it all seems like blatant Cannes bait when I see the trailers and such.

based

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is the director gay? most of the movie was close ups of brad pitts face

Film that go to Cannes are usually decent. Gray tries to be 70s director and most of his films are more character driven than usual films. Two Lowers, The Immigrant, The Yards and We Own the Night are really good with great performance from Phoenix. Little Odessa is also good crime flick. Lost City of Z tries to go full David Lean but Hunnam is not good in it and can't carry it. Pattinson is great in it. Still, it's an interesting film.

Lovers*

I definitely went into it with different expectations. I didn't even care much for the action, I just wanted at least a somewhat interesting setting that wasn't full of weirdo contrived bullshit.
I went with my parents and some friends. The latter were the kind of capeshit loving normies some people are strawmanning ITT and they were just bored out of their asses, my parents and I just ended up disappointed.
>the film seems to be pulled into two different directions, arty and then blockbuster.
I think that's a good way to summarize it. It tries too hard where it's not needed and doesn't try hard enough where it should have.

The bit where he flies through the asteroid belt was ridiculous. Otherwise very BR2049-y, I loved it

But did you pay $20 for just one ticket? Or did you have some food?
I think the film is flawed but so far it's my favourite of the year. I hope that some trade will do a story on post production of this film, i really wonder how much studio meddled with the film.

Oh yeah, the ticket was only $10, still, I have to cope nonetheless.

>movie is called Ad Astra
>he didn't travel to any star
it's nothing but LIES

Uh he travels towards the Sun at the end dummy

Saw the movie yetserday. Your taste is accepted of course. It was one of the best scifi movies of the decade. This does not say much, because most movies were garbage, but it's a wonderful and beautiful movie (only 80-100 million budget) and Brad Pitt nailed it with his simplistic acting. Great movie. You can name me shill if you want, not bothered. I'm very happy about a good scifi movie again.

>Its the same level as say Gravity
I like AD Astra and hated Gravity. They are much different movies. Gravity has no story, it was only about showing 3D space shit. Ad Astra is a different kind of movie and it's not focused on spacewalks.

What do you doing then !? Gotta go & get ticket before it’s sold out.

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Gonna go see it tomorrow
becase It's a space movie and its about space

Was Brad Pitt autistic?

Yeah it was annoying because it stuck out like a sore thumb, you could practically see pic attached popping on screen telling you that there are strong women and idversity in space and on Mars. That bitch doesn't look like what I imagine would be president of planet Mars. Just another fucking female of mysterious complexion.

The monkey scene is nothing in the movie but autists are sperging about it because they have nothing to say about the film. they're just repeating this meme, much like an ape would.

>starlightstrooper 1 point 24 minutes ago
>I didn’t expect it to be so existential. What a slow burn. I enjoyed it.
>slow burn
They actually say faggot shit like slow burn holy shit

>best space movies in years

Like that is anything even remotely special. And to hammer my point home, Gravity won best picture 7 years ago.

Fuck off with your weeb garbage.

>Gravity won best picture 7 years ago.
Gravity was reddit trash, as well as The martian.

>Gravity won best picture 7 years ago
No it didn't retard

>best space movie in years
More like one of the only space movies in years,so not much of an achievment then.

WHITEY ON DA MOON

Nah Yea Forums would've been seething hard over the final twist.

>Gravity won best picture 7 years ago
Dumb cunt

Everything but. But yeah I'm wrong, which makes it even more reddit and unmemorable.

I guess that didn't read like I thought it would. I meant that if gravity was the last best then fuck me because "the best in years" doesn't mean shit.

Eat my cock homo

Depends how long does the word "years" mean to you. Gravity wasn't even as good as Interstellar and that movie had problems too. To be fair, this is a tough subgenre to do right. You make some reddit shit like The Martian, you're gonna lose the kino audience. You make a slow burn, you're gonna lose the reddit audience. One way or another, there is no space movie that is ever not divisive.

The best in years IS Interstellar hands down. The love thing shouldn't have been included. It gives the movie a black eye that it'll ever recover from.

Now if we want bad in recent years. It's gotta be the Goose movie. What a snooze fest and is a good example of a horrible space movie.

The Martian, meh-ed it up and is embarrassingly cringe in parts, but what Damon, the rest of the astronauts and Glover doesn't ruin is above average imo.

Fuck you nigger

Ad Astra is the film that Interstellar tried to be. Interstellar is not even good and Nolan is a shit director who couldn't even direct himself out of a paper bag.

sounds like the hype for interstellar

Coming from a guy who ignored all of interstellar’s problems just because of the rarity of space sci fi films, yet also disliked gravity, would this movie still be worth watching for me?

What do you think about Moon with Sam Rockwell? I feel like I heard/seen the twist a billion times before, but for the life of me I can't remember where.

Yes, the film has some scientifically implausible things but it's an interesting character study.

I haven't seen that one yet.

Insterstellar should have been titled Gravity and Gravity should have been titled Cuntstronaut.

I'm not sure I recommend it then. Rockwell is solid, but I think you'll come out feeling like you seen it or read it before and it was done better.

Interstellar and ad Astra are space explorationmovies but they carry an opposite message, a message I hated in Interstellar is that they're saying that we can fuck up Earth, it doesn't matter, we will build a giant spaceship and move to another planet. In Ad Astra, they tell you that there is nowhere else to go, so you better preserve what you got instead of going after something that doesn't exist. It's much more reasonable.

>I love slowburns

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This but Interstellar was still more entertaining and that's what matters

Top Viv

I'm not a big fan of director's other films but i might check it out eventually. Thanks for the warning tho.

>watching any huge star as an astronaut movie ever

yes

Moon is his best because it's his most consistent. If you liked the first 20 mins, then you'll like the next, and so on. It's really a simple movie about a guy on the moon who finds out some stuff and then tries to deal with it. Great score too.

This. They almost always poop out on the end and feel like "for your consideration" Oscar bait trash now. Maybe I'm just a jaded faggot though.

BRADDU PITTU was really good in this. Doesn't feel like a bombastic action hero in this movie. He's really a stoic kind of guy. No meme quips in the movie at all. I'm surprised he can do this kind of role, considering his most popular movies are him playing eccentric characters like in inglorious basterds. Honestly, it's perfect casting for a character like this and he nails it.

>Brad Pitt ventures to the stars in Ad Astra
He doesn't even leave the solar system but ok.

What did the studio do to the movie?

>don't get the hate for Gravity
Starred a woman for one thing.

The sun is a star and solar means sun.

It's one of those movies Yea Forums would call pretentious reddit garbage if it was anyone but Pitt as the lead. Imagine if everything stayed the same but it'd been Donald Glover, Matt Damon or Jessica Chastain.

I might check it out then when i'm bored.
Sci fi aren't that successful at Oscars.
They changed the ending. The last third is very different from the script. Also wife/gf character was added but i didn't mind that. I just thought the ending was too clean and the message was very obviously stated several times. Maybe some other changes were done to the film, who knows at this point but the ending is changed for sure, even Gray admitted that.

They probably couldn't pull the performance that Pitt did. Also pretentious is retarded criticism and is usually completely misused.

Imagine if it was a female, Pitt was emotionless till the ending when he realized the redpill. It would be funny seeing a female not be dramatic for two hours.

>stars a female astronaut
>Sandra Bullock of all women
>unrealistic space action shlock
>no story at all
No wonder reddit fell in love

>Imagine if everything stayed the same but it'd been Donald Glover, Matt Damon or Jessica Chastain.
How could it stay the same when you replace one white man with a white man, a black man and a red head woman? That would immediately be different and it would be trash because the black guy and the woman have nothing to do here.

Sun is a star, not stars. It's only one.

Far from the major problem of gravity
It was basically a film made for 3D that had literally nothing else in it, and Sandra Bullock is a shit actress
I could easily buy it if it was ie Jodie Foster since she at least can act, and then the film would be more than an extended tech demo

I watched it in IMAX at the front, the 3D would be overkill.

I think it's a symptom of scifi not being successful or looking to catch lightning in a bottle Ala 2001: a space odyssey.

Look at the star power draws for realistic space movies and forgive me if I overlook a few.

Hanks, Sinise, Bacon, Mchuehue, Clooney, Pitt, Damon, Jeff Daniels, Sean Bean, Goose. With a couple exceptions these are all THE leading men of their Era.

He's in the movie with movie stars reddidude.

It's bradkino

Forgot Pattinson from High Life and uhhh whatshisname from Moon

If we want to go down the less than realistic road. We only need to mention Armageddon.

Haven't seen ad astra but all of the rest are mediocre at best.

Oh you said realistic my bad

>So they threw in random scenes that weren’t explained and didn’t impact the story one bit just to add some action to a boring movie? I’m looking at you baboons and space pirates! The movie would have been much more interesting had the space pirate thing lead into a wider conspiracy that ultimately involved his dad. Ultimately I had no interest in watching Pitt’s character resolving his daddy issues and “embracing humanity”.
Huh they actually are that retarded. If they couldn't understand the point of space pirates, then they're done for.

I just think they were trying to make it more mainstream and digestible.

>the black guy and the woman have nothing to do here
Except each other.

You don't know what "or" means do you?

Brad Pitt - 'It deals with the problems of masculinity, men who can't show their emotions and how it turns into toxic masculinity'

No thanks, I'll pass on this 'my daddy was a macho man who went to space and became evil because he didn't embrace his femine side'.

We just need Dicaprio in space and possibly Viggo Mortensen.

Depp and Benicio Del Toro please.

I enjoyed it. It's interesting in a lot of ways. It subverts your expectations by not subverting your expectations. It's a movie about fathers and sons and finding meaning in a universe where god is silent.

It's not perfect. There were some missed opportunities (the moon section) and parts that should have had more impact (the ending part with Tommy Lee Jones) but overall it's great. Worth seeing in theaters.

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Well a white man is the generic hero, his white man identity doesn't matter as itself, it's more about his journey. But if you make your hero a black man or a woman, then it becomes peculiar. You have to explain why him being black or female is relevant to teh story. If the color and gender aren't relevant to the story, that means they are only relevant for marketing purpose, selling a movie as woke. And that is trash.

I'd pay good money for a Cronenberg take on spes horror with Viggo

what the fuck are you talking about, The Moon with Sam Rockwell is great, one of the best low budget sci-fi movies i've seen. Who gives a shit if the story is similar to some other story if it's done really well?

>tfw I went into Moon blind when it first came out
even if it's a little cliched it did what it did excellently and I'm glad I wasn't spoiled by the trailers

The movie really hinges on Pitt's performance, it's extremely subtle most of the time, if the movie had a lesser actor as lead it wouldn't work at all.

What was the point of space pirates except saying that humans were turning the Moon just like Earth. The most shocking here is that this moron is disappointed that McBride wasn't a villain. They really wanted some anti ptriarchy narrative.

>best space movie
>it isn't about space
what did mean by this

Of course it is. Why? Because there are close to no new sci-fi movies being released. There simply is no competition. Best out of 1.

Pitt fucks the female monkey. Ending is a chimera being born and pitt smiling bc he finally has a son.

>"one of the best"
>"in years"
Kill anyone who uses either of these phrases

I wish my father loved me

He’s just butthurt becuase it’s women since he’s an incel.

I think Cronenberg is done, unfortunately.

(spoilerz) I feel like its not really a space movie, and I'm no expert but it definitely feels like there's moments of Gravity tier goofball impossible hollywood bullshit (perfectly aiming himself to catch an orbiting ship and flying through a ring of saturn with a metal plate as a shield for one). I like it as a character thing exploring the father/son dynamic, where both of them are misanthropic and essentially fleeing their lives using their careers as an excuse. Upon the (frankly welcome) realization that there is no intelligent life, the father cannot handle it and chooses a death in space while the son has an epiphany that his excuse in running away from relationships is invalid and other people are all there is and he has to turn to them. I like all this, thematically, but it doesn't glorify space, it glorifies humans and humanity.
All in all, it feels like a malick-esque heady drama with a backdrop of space and a few corny action sequences strewn throughout so the audience doesn't lose interest. I think it could have been paced better, ditch some action stuff, ditch the voice over, make it bone dry, silent and poignant, and it would have been pure father/son doomer kino.

I kind of agree with you but i didn't find the action to be that distracting except the last part with the shield. I liked the monkey and boogie chase but the primary strength of the film is the relationship and character study. At some points it seems like Gray put those action scenes in there just to get the big budget. Still a very good film, flawed one for sure.

This

I fundamentally disagree with you. When we start commercializing space travel, Applebee's on the moon will be the first thing to happen.

Also
>using a nuclear blast to propel yourself back to earth
>somehow decelerating at the other end without another blast