How come all the greatest movies are conservative?

now that you mention it....

The ones that do that for Star Trek are even more retarded.

an effective tax code

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White men and white elves, user.

Right-wing values are inherently static. They may spin their wheels a little to look dynamic but all they do is burn donuts. The result is an ideology suited to human nature with a mind for not wasting resources on dumb shit that won't work out in the end.
Whereas left-wing progressive politics is about spending as much money as possible for porkbarrel initiatives you can rubber-stamp your name on and retiring to some remote beach country when your native country's economy collapses and people start calling for your head on a pike. That's a big fringe benefit of globalism, by the way: Dodging accountability by always having some shithole island to hide on.

Lotr is to nazi larpers what Harry Potter is to Tumblrtards.
>Omg the election of Trump is like Voldermort...
>Omg the immigration of arabs is just like the hordes of Mordor...

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White men, white elves, white dwarves, and white hobbits vs the brown sand people and the black/grey orcs.

HMMMMM

but thats just it. being progressive means youre constantly updating your values so you dont actually stand for anything or believe in anything. it treats politics like its a fashion fad

if it aint broke dont fix it

And is primarily espoused by children, women, gays and blacks. Small wonder

>Light vs Dark
>No it couldn't possibly be a concept as old as human imagination, it has to be a metaphor for Race War in the real world! Tolkien literally wanted to exterminate all non-whites!
why are you like this, how do you get out of bed in the morning

Because they honor principles.

What does it say then when you allude to the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises? Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though

"No!" The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>Libertarian
>conservative

Wow, now we’re shifting goalposts. :)

We could concede that it doesn’t fit in the modern divide and conquer political duality but i agree with OP.

Immigration into the shire destroys it. Scoring of the Shire is not subtle on this. Industrialisation anywhere in Middle Earth destroys wherever it touches. Tolkien was very open abou this. Eowyn finds nothing but misery trying to win male glory and finds happiness in being a mother and wife realising her glory is different and feminine.

Theres no way you could think its not a very conservative story if you’d read it.

>splitting
>hairs

enjoy your voodoo child abductor masters’ orders

This.
Laurence of Arabia
And movie pre 80's is generally considered Konservative Kore Kino

Libertarianism and conservatism are two different ideologies

Agreed. New information needs to be rejected in favor of tradition.

New information rejected?
Like the 40% of transgender suicides
Like that 75% of crime by non whites???

Oh it absolutely has clear themes of christian and socialy conservative values, but he clearly has a whole other philosophy regarding conservatism than say american conservatives. Tolkien clearly values peace and nature. He would most likely be on the side of environmentalist in todays political climate. The wet dream of /pol/tards that Tolkien would be some kind of White Pride Prophet is just retarded.

They have tight overlap in American politics

>He would most likely be on the side of environmentalist in todays political climate
Clutching at straws
>The wet dream of /pol/tards that Tolkien would be some kind of White Pride Prophet is just retarded.
Deluded

>immigration destroys the shire
If that's what you got from scourging of the shire you are an absolute retard that needs everything to fit your political narrative

But it does.
The hoards of mordor, are uncivilised and prone to violence.
Just like man africans who are immigrating to europe.

It's not racism, its a cold hard fact.

Yes. American conservatism has nothing to do with LOTR or Tolkien in any way. The very thought it cringeworthy.

You like Tolkien so you apply your ideology onto your image of his just as they do. I think if Tolkien could see London today he would make white nationalists look tame given his generation and temperament. Which we can tell from his outspoken son.

Being a Prof at Cambridge its no doubt he would have met nonwhites in his career but he still lived a 99.5% white life with little reason to believe that demographic would change at all.

/pol/ knows Tolkien doesn’t follow their ideology because he wrote to Hitler in support of the Jews. Its just nothing to do with modern politics.

Tolkien wasn't a Nazi but he was definitely even more right wing than a conservative of his day. He even supported Franco.

Ryan Goslings reaction in Blade Runner 2049 would literally be Tolkien's reaction if he saw London today.

Its not racial immigrational. Its men and their industry flooding into the shire and building their houses and workshops and mills. Its more class immigration than racial.

The elves and men get along because the elves are in the process of deporting themselves already.

So politicians being bribed by wealthy industrialists to allow cheaper labour into the country

Yes and likewise going full "tradition bad" is how you get shit like the Great Leap Forward

Exactly. pretty conservative. Its also an obvious and out of place Orwell rip off of a chapter and my least favourite part of the book. Generally skip it.

Oh NOW we want to leave the race baiting at the door and distinguish it by class

Lol

What people refuse to see and believe is that Right Wing Capitalists are the very people driving mankind forward into the space age.
Libtards would have you believe that because Star Trek is socialist that the only way to move mankind into the stars is to be progressive.
Well thats wrong because being progressive means so many rules and regulations that its hard to move forward.
The western world has only advanced so far so quickly compared to the rest of the world due to a conservative mind set.

>Conservative movies
>great
>youtube.com/watch?v=j2KDj7qxnds
>youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz-Y-c2UUc
>youtube.com/watch?v=wIKExeMVksk

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This

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Complete and utter Hogwash
Conservative by its very nature is resistant to ANY change be it technical or societal

What did he mean by this?

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>Hitchcock
>David Lean
>Leone
>Gilliam

Hmmm and countless others pre 2000

No i’m not moving any goalposts. That holds to my original point. LOTR has nothing to do with modern let alone America. Politics. Told keen was a very conservative early 20th century Englishman. Thats not a racist philosophy as he had no contact with other races at home.

Easy Rider is liberal as shit. Name a fucking flaw.

Fucking stupid. You’re just strawmanning with your polarised divide and conquer literal brainwashing.

Please have sex.

It's literally not, Liberals have hijacked the term right wing and conservative to mean racist.

British and Roman empire, Right Wing and yet brought new technology to underdeveloped countries.
Next question?

All major scientific advancements throughout mankind have been achieved under conservative rule. Why you wonder?
Money.

>‘Hate whites. Love Communism. Simple as.’ JRR Tolkien (from correspondance march 1938.

In the end men win and honestly the gap between men and elves is at the same level of nigs and whites. So guess who "wins"

Liberals won't respond to this.

>He thinks American libertarianism is actually libertarian
American "libertarian" will support the thin blue line and increases military spending. Overlap my ass

Commies made some pretty major discoveries regarding space flight and technology. There was also discoveries such as evolutionary thought which has been challenges and denied by many conservative groups for centuries now as well.

>tfw some purple haired Amerifat starts telling you JRR Tolkien was a proud Hillary supporter.

>anarcho-monarchist
>conservative
that's gonna be a "lol" from me

>If I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject—which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.
Nazis BTFO

Israel is highly conservative.
You're an idiot.

I think you have me confused with another user.

Tolkien was a true English gentleman of his era. This idea everyone 100 years ago was turbo-racist isn't entirely accurate. They saw racial differences and were prejudice on certain issues but overt hostility to other races was not as common as people claim.

As an educated Englishman of the early 20th century though, he had a disdain for the type of garbage alley thuggery the Nazi's represented. Plus he was anti-German from his experiences in WW1.

Good old British Conservatism, none of this Nazi trash that tend to take things too far.

>Postscript; Only joking Anne frank is in the attic and the Jews are weak to gas. Good luck.

>Sincerely yours, JRT.

Love how everyone leaves that bit out.

lmao

Nazi cope after being BTFO!!! Many such cases!!!! SAD!!!!!

All these people saying Tolkien wasn't right wing when he straight up supported the fascists in the spanish civil war lol.

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Literally this. /pol/ aspies should kill themselves.

Post some proof of this claim please

LotR isn't conservative because conservatism died with WWI in Britain. It's outright reactionary.

holy shit go suck a cock

josemanuelferrandez.com/vieja/ENguerra.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien
cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/j/J._R._R._Tolkien.htm
Its extremley common knowledge
He also hated Stalin and thought that nazis were less dangerous than communists.

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And both were absolute fucking hell to live under if you were the ones being conquered
Funny how Right wingers always side with the Romans against their natural allies the Germanic and Gallic tribes.

Your first source literally has
>But this is a baseless reasoning and this paper will be focused on the question why Tolkien's position was not inspired by political motives neither from affinities with extreme right-wing ideas.
At it's first page dude.
And the wiki says he only supported Franco cause he hated commies and heard they killed some nuns.
So 'hate Nazi, hate commies, 'hate industry, love me bike, love me countryside. Simple as

It's "hell" to live under a conservative government? Boo hoo you can't pay more in taxes. Have you seen the most recent leftist platform in the US? They were talking about fucking reparations unironically. As well as gun confiscation and ending immigration law.

They make Pinochet look appealing in comparison.

>Reparations
Naw, instead let's pay Johnny Flyover 20 billion a year to keep growing high-yield crops we don't need and he can't sell.

>He thinks conservative is only in amount of taxes paid
>He think all political idealogy is based on his modern American two party system.
No

That is literally a form of welfare, guaranteeing cheap food. The US has always subsidized farmers, it's why food is so fucking cheap.

He still thought that fascism>communism regardless. In today's climate that absolutely makes someone a right wing extremist.

What exactly is conservatism to you, "racism and meanyness"? It's conventionally understood to be a rejection of change for tradition and a belief in limited government and individualism.

Durr hurr American politics aren't exactly 1:1 with European

>and a belief in limited government and individualism.
It's funny how all this "limited government" and individuality dries up just as fast as Fiscal Responsibility whenever "true" Conservatives take power.

Like tradition and family values, it's just lip-service for their poorly educated base.

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Conservatism is simply the function of trying to maintain and conserve prior movements or organizations. Arguing conservatism as if it's libertarian is stupid. A conservative person would have little to no hesitation on spending billions for a large and powerful military, a libertarian would argue against such military spending.

Because conservatism is an optimistic celebration of life.

You don't know shit about conservatism. These are MSM talking points. Not all conservatives are hawks.

Ok here's another difference between a conservative and a libertarian viewpoint, fag marriage. According to a libertarian viewpoint, fags can get married as long as it's between two consenting individuals. Two individuals being able to enter a consenting and legal agreement can be seen as one of the major tenants of libertarian thought. Now a conservative viewpoint would be against fag marriage, as marriage as an institution would undergo changes if such a shift was allowed.

Also a conservative hasn't tried to limit government power in the US since the fucking 50's and that was fucking Eisenhower, so we may as well ignore the
>a belief in limited government and individualism.
Due to shit like constant subsidies to agriculture industry and coal industry to buy votes, the constant military spending, and the fact many conservative policies have been massively restrictive on things such as guns or drugs being allowed in the US.

>military-industrial complex bad
>*topples third world democracies with glow-in-the-darks*

seems legit

Are you retarded? I'm sure conservative people such as Reagan or Nixon would never get caught arming contra groups in South America or deliberately funding cocaine farms and then importing it to the US to use as an excuse to crack down on nigs. Except they both did that shit

>Glow in the darks aren't part of the military-industrial complex
Fucking stupid

Libertarians certainly have more common cause with conservatives, who generally prize the rule of law and individual rights like personal property. This is not to suggest the critters in Washington who style themselves "conservatives" believe in those things. But show me a liberal who champions property rights or freedom of association.

What's Eating Gilbert Grape was pretty good. Nice job, OP.

Freedom of association is a necessity for things such as most unions to exist dude, and you'd have to first show me a conservative who actually supports property rights over eminent domain.

>you'd have to first show me a conservative who actually supports property rights over eminent domain
Justin Amash.
Your turn.

>Unions
>Freedom of association
Fucking pick one my dude. Unions are collectives and states literally have to enact laws to stop unions from forcing people to join and/or pay dues. There is nothing "free" about organized labor and collective bargaining.

>lotr
>among the greatest movies
Holy lordy lord, the levels of pleb are through the roof. You probably think the original star wars trilogy is great too.

How is LOTR conservative? A multi-racial, multi-national coalition unites to oppose militaristic expansion and restore international law. It also says that greed is evil, and people shouldn’t just pursue their self-interest but should actively contribute towards the well-being of others.

>inb4 it’s reactionary because Tolkien was Catholic
>inb4 those are also conservative values, even though conservatives have voted against those values for the past century

Funny enough Bennet.

Viggo shamed a Spanish nationalist group for appropriating Aragorn and said he considers Aragorn to be a left wing leader.

elpais.com/elpais/2019/05/07/inenglish/1557222068_957377.html

Having Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan trying to get them laid by redistributing pussy.

sneed

>his idea of /pol/ is a group of wignats screeching about how they hate brown people for having the audacity to be brown, want to destroy the environment just because and hate peace and friends for some reason

>Aragorn to be a left wing leader.
>a heir to the throne

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They don't? And an Environmental message is conservative, modern day conservatives are cuckolds who sold out to (((money)))

Eco-Fascism is the future of the Right

Absolutely yes.

cuckservatives hate LOTR though because its "satanic devil shit". LOTR is actually further right than "conservatives" are. thats why LOTR is based.

Nature?
White races?
Honor?
Families?
Entire tribes?
A way of life?
Traditions
Bloodlines?
It's not? Trump is not like Voldemort.
However an invasion by foreigners is the chief problem of our age.
invaders who want to destroy what we have, they say this, this isn't some /pol/ meme THEY SAY THIS.
seeth harder chaim

Left v right is such an NPC narrative nowadays. You fucks don't know the tenets of either, and really just treat it as teams in sport

Any man who wasn't liberal in their 20s has no heart. Any man who isn't conservative in their 40s has no brain.

It's conservative by todays youths standards who are very left-wing. Yea Forums is underaged so they think they're being alt-right by liking it.

At the time it was fairly conventional to liberal

so what?
No one cares what Viggo thinks, he is not Aragorn. Left and Right are a sham, its all the same, anti white.
This, it taps into a lost pagan spirit latent within the forest of the mind.
Cuckservatives hate it because they cant swing around their jewish nonsense anymore.
LOtR is pagan.
Much to the chagrin of these spineless cuckolds, The Nordic man is a savage pagan, he will never become a jew. Call me a larper but LOTR proves this, the love Europeans have for the story and the themes and the archetypes and the heroic deeds only go to show, we are not jews, we are not right or left, liberal or conservative, we are our own people and we were (are) strong.

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"no"

LOTR delves in Monarchic thinking, conservative it ain´t

no, and neither does sacrifice. Conservatives recognize that self sacrifice is the highest virtue while libshits want to control other's behavior (at least in the current political agenda)

is that y'alls example lmfaooo the nerd of the ringss? explain black pantcher sweaty

>Conservatives recognize that self sacrifice is the highest virtue
only when its self sacrifice for israel.

You're just as cringe as the rest of the poltards. Die.

The dark races are the forces of darkness