How did this talentless hack become popular?

This
Horror is the genre of teen age girl.
Even worst it's the genre of pseud cinephile who can only talk about blockbuster movies and obscure serie b horror film

did the loud noise scare you baby

He wrote a book every three and a half minutes so he was always getting attention. Nobody cares about his books they care about the movie adaptations made by more talented men.

Also, most of his books gave horrible self-insert characters.

nepotism

>horror is a shit genre in both lit and film

You're a pleb!!!FACT!!!

He wrote a lot of books and his work has kind of been whittled down to the good stuff he wrote and all the other 90% of trash he wrote is ignored.

Idk, let's see you impress us with your horror stories OP, go ahead.

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Because readers out of Yea Forums don't use literature as a substitute for independent thought.
It's entertaining.

>Be high as fuck
>Write about magical americans that somehow know how to deal with an interdimensional being from millions of years ago
What did Stephen King mean by this?

who holds a cup like that

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>How did this talentless hack
The Stand is an amazing book, fuck you.

the mist

>talentless hack
Oh user.

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That's not the Game of Thrones bloke.

I'll take this bait.
Horror is objectively the best genre since it projects it's ideas to the central human emotion - fear.

didn't he used to be such an alcoholic that he drank hand sanitizer and listerine to get a buzz?

I've only read The Shawshank Redemption which is a short novella and it was basically the movie script. And I've seen probably 30 movies adaptations of his books. He's a cool guy, contrarians hate him because he's super popular.

that has nothing to do with anything, stay on topic please.

I liked The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordan, neat read.

I wonder what his day to day life is like now. Just out of his mind on superdrugs all day?

I liked the Dark Tower series

The self-preservation instinct exists only as an emergent property of the real central human desire, which is the desire to reproduce, which by your logic would imply that the best genre of all is pornography. Your genre is second to pornography.

What are some good none stephen king/none classical (souy-dracula) horror books?

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He's been sober and drug-free for like a couple of decades, user.
I've watched several Q&As on youtube and he's basically going around talking with fans and telling the same stories again and again and again. They're interesting and funny stories tho.

its*
Your post was almost agreeable.

>I've only read The Shawshank Redemption
Why didn't you read the other three stories in the book? The winter one was the only dud.

I pirated only that one and read it on my Kindle.

This is only a central human emotion if you’re a pussy. I’d say ambition and dominance are far more indicative of human history and our past. Also very little horror treats fear in an interesting manner. Kings writing isn’t scary either

He's prolific and creative. He may be a hack but those things are definitely true. The guy only even manages to publish like 5% of his stuff even with his name, because its all wacky as fuck. But that's also cool, desu. Whatever

Hai Stephen King y u mak baddd endingss lel

>The guy only even manages to publish like 5% of his stuff even with his name
What?

I loved Bazaar

He wrote schlock that was supremely easy to adapt to film. That's it. That's all it was. People watched the movies and then bought the books and realized what everyone else already knew: the book is usually better than the movie.

books are for faggots

havent really read horror but isnt HP lovecraft pretty good? cool concepts in his stuff

t. ADHD zoomer who only doesn’t like books because he can’t concentrate

Because his books are good. Yea Forums snobs don't @ me.

Volume. He writes a book every 3 days.

I wouldn't say central but more powerful, in literature tho. I'd say ambition in movies and fear in books.

It's known that King wrote a shitton under different names, but how many I don't recall.

he had few genuinely good ideas in the 70s and 80s
he himself considers himself the literary equivalent of junk food

That’s probably why he could churn out books so fast. He’s an author in New England, so no having to research other careers or areas. Better than the writers who just make shit up and understand the nuances of none of it.

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thomas ligotti

I’ll agree that horror is indubiously more effective in the written form. But, it’s still far from the best genre

There is a legitimate and active Stephen King fanbase/shill army that will spring to his defense on Yea Forums, I don't know why since Yea Forums loves to be contrarian but in regards to this one talentless hack they collectively lose their shit. Mind you these same people probably shit on mainstream music, mainstream film, mainstream video games, etc. but they'll suddenly start using lots of fallacies to defend King. Like mentioning his sales figures, even though popular =/= good.

he writes books that can be read very easily

I'm reading Salem right now. The more I read it, the more I'm realizing that Poe actually make you scared shitless with half the words. But it's quite classical I believe.

Except it is literally impossible to write a scary book or make a scary film. The best you can achieve is 'unsettling', while real life can be horrifying, literature not so much. Also this is a retarded metric by which to evaluate a genre and is by no means 'objective', the primacy of an emotion does not indicate superiority in any way. Besides any genre that limits itself to focusing on one emotion is crippled in this regard.

I know he did at least 4 under the name Richard Bachman, Rage, The Long Walk, Roadwork, and The Running Man

not even close chief

I'd say ambition and dominance - or better stated: the ambition to achieve dominance - are the direct result of fear. You want dominance over something or someone so you no longer have to fear them.
>Kings writing isn’t scary either
Yeah, there we agree. His writing is sometimes interesting, but not scary.

>more effective in written
No, moving images are inherently better at invoking terror in someone. Literature has too many limitations

If you take this point of view, art can only imitate art and thus we will only have a sham of an emotion. Fantastic literature, like movies, is just make believe. Now, how far it can lead to believe in things you know cannot exist, is another question.

Ask a 9yo kid if he can sleep well after reading a goosebumps book.

Laird Barron, Thomas Ligotti, John Langan

You literally need to use your imagination in literature, and there is not a greater driving force in fear than imagination

>art can only imitate life*
sry

I have never once been scared by a movie past age 14. Something about movies to me is just far less believable to me. At least with a book it’s my own imagination running wild. With a movie I can never suspend the idea that it’s just a prop or an actor doing all this horrible shit. The scariest medium is real life gore and horror stories by far

>Except it is literally impossible to write a scary book or make a scary film.
Well, you might haven't found something that scares you, it is all subjective. Most of Kings books have terrifying moments for me, absolutely love how he builds tension and creates atmosphere. I would say the majority of mainstream horror movies are just jumpscares, gore or shitty acting. However I like to thoroughly search and have found a lot of movies that I find genuinely scary. It's all about atmosphere, great acting and scary ideas.

If you weren’t raised on technology there’s no excuse for not reading. You actually just made your self look worse. At least zoomers are just a product of the times. You’re just pathetic and take pride in not reading like a teenage boy

>Stephen King fanbase/shill army that will spring to his defense on Yea Forums
>mentioning his sales figures
Nobody did that tho.

After going through so many horror movies throughout my life, I have to agree with this. 90% of horror films are straight up shit, and movies such as Alien which are part of the 10% of god tier horror films are great simply due to accident.

>scariest medium is real life gore and horror stories
And gore videos beat stories

>there is not a greater driving force in fear than imagination
This. That's why some people love books and others don't. A book can be a better experience than any other medium to some and it can be completely worthless to others.

Fantastic literature is the exact opposite of make believe, it is when the author makes you realise a truth with completely clarity by making you connect with an idea.

Truth. I don’t really get scared easily but there’s something so viscerally shaking about watching a real person be tortured or murdered

cope faggot

quantity

Why did you give up so easily?

>you realise a truth
I don't understand, how can one realize a truth when reading about zombies, ghosts etc?
In The Long Walk, Shining or Insomnia I could agree with you, but I was more talking about the paranormal side of his books (Salem, Carrie, It)

All four of those were kino. The Long Walk and Roadwork are genuine literature that deals with the male condition in modern society better than I think King ever intended.

I'm reading IT now and its pure cringe.

First King novel I've read. Are they are this fucking terrible?

This.

The unedited gunslinger is still his best work.

He just writes and writes. Like that porn reviewer.

No

A lot of them are pretty bad. He’s got some good ones though. I read Insomnia the whole way through and the way he set up the story and delivered exposition was actually pretty good, figured it was going to be some kind of psychological thriller. But by the end it was this stupid action story with literal elderly people in younger bodies as the protagonists.

Salem's lot is probably the best one.

Horror is intrinsically tied to the idea of existence and non-existence, which for many would dread to think about. Heightens emotions, adrenaline pumping through you; it's no wonder that people find horror and porn so closely. Not only because both are able to be cheaply made and mass produced, either.

the only thing horrible about porn is that females exist

I dunno. I think being able to genuinely scare someone (not jump scares) is one of the harder things to do. Personally I always liked suspense

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It's funny that the best horror movies are the ones categorized as suspense or drama but that tackle scary themes.

I've read most of kings books and i always wounder what his obsession with sex is. Yes, we all know about the train on beverly but it's also in most of his other pre-clean novels.
>Pet Sematary
The zombie from ww2 keeps talking about how some guy is getting cucked (yes he screams about the cuck, not the meme) and there are lengthy scenes with the doctor fucking his wife.
>Salem's Lot
Vampire susane wants to suck a little boys dick if she gets to suck his blood. Also lengthy sex scenes.
>The Stand
Trashcanman gets raped by a midget elvis and gets a loaded gun stuck into his asshole. LOTS of sex scenes.

It can go on, but i think the man was just jacking it like crazy high on blow while he wrote most of the books.

I liked king but preferred James Herbert ...I was hooked on his books

people got memed int thinking this retard's stuff was good, 90% of it is trash and blatantly self insert. go read the shining novel it's ass, Kubrick changed most of it to be even remotely interesting and then Stephen king got all butt hurt about it.

It seems 50% for drawing people in with schlock appeal and 50% him trying to make his characters feel like actual human beings who piss, shit, and fuck. Usually I say it works though at times he overdoes it such that it no longer seems organic.

I think you were using the word 'fantastic' in its traditional sense. My bad.

because he's a massive faggot

someone making sure it can be seen in the shot

Information density in books are unparalleled, you will learn more, more quickly, reading than using virtually any other technique. Everything else is a lie.

>t. finished my degree and got a job without ever going to a single lecture

I feel that he is pretty good at it when it's short and to the point. Then we have times he is just jacking it. Did we really need two pages in IT about how Patrick jacks off Henry while they light farts on fire?

As k/lit/.

>the "central human emotion" meme
Read more books, fedora zoomie.

Based !!!FACT!!! poster

he out in enough work
fueled by enough blow

>muh deep art film

I think it makes his books more "organic", it allows him to connect conceptual paranormal things to our reality, to make them on the same level.
It is easier to make you believe there is a ghost in a room if you emphasize how normal the room is beside the ghost. It's a trick he often uses.

He’s a good writer.

It's not a cup, it's a mate, cabeza de chota gato

>I pirated only that one and read it on my Kindle.
You missed out. Apt Pupil has some great naziXjuden masturbation fantasies.

>I know he did at least 4 under the name Richard Bachman, Rage, The Long Walk, Roadwork, and The Running Man

You should definitely read Desperation and The Regulators.

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Sleepwalkers or Maximum Overdrive

I wouldn't say he's a talentless hack but he definitely can't into third acts and most of his stuff is not good.

99.999% writers can't into third acts

stupid people

cope stephen

>art that has reference to reproduction is pornography
Pic related is pornography according to your logic.

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HP Lovecraft? What was his cat's name again?

You leave Niggerman out of this.

Yeah you're not wrong. But you'd think after over 9000 books he'd have one or two...

Nice I'll have to check them out, I only know about the other 4 because after he was outed they released a big book with those 4 in using the stephen king name and had an opening saying why he wrote under the fake name

Blackie.

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please never leave us

The Shining and Carrie movies made him famous. No one gave a shit about him before that.

Yes, it was a missed opportunity with the movies.

This. The fucked up and bizarre parts of It are what makes it interesting. Generic scary clown movie is boring but I guess it was successful

>independiente
>most probably mate dulce
waht a faggot

Does he have fetal alcohol syndrome or something? Always wondered. He's weird looking.

he shat out a book every two weeks
it was unavoidable a handfull of his novels turn out good just by accident

>not knowing what a mate is
Viggo is disappointed in you

>ctrl f cujo
>0 of 0
Pleb board

>drinking bitter mate
Sugar is not that expensive negro

>that freudian slip
gay

You can read them in either order, but you have to read them back-to-back.

Rage and The Long Walk are unironically 2 of my fav books

I enjoy The Stand as well

dark tower was fucking shit i dont know how i even got through the whole thing

A lot of people are closeted pedophiles

Can someone shop the straw up to his nose

>telling the same stories again and again and again
so just an average old person lol

It's pretty good, would be better if Francine wasn't such a bitch all of the time.

>god comes down and blows up a nuclear bomb that a side character who never interacts with any other characters dug up and brought to the bad guy

>conceptual paranormal things to our reality
But this is precisely sex

When he was doing tons of drugs he could come up with some wild horror imagery which were juxtaposed against general small town life which King personally had a great dislike of even though for most people it's a very comforting setting.

This gave him a great strength as he made the comforting uncomfortable with fairly horrifying imagery.

>that a side character who never interacts with any other characters dug up and brought to the bad guy
The fuck are you talking about? Trashcan man is a very exposed character in the book with him traveling across the country to meet with Flag. He also interacts with every bad guy and he is the only bad guy except for flag that has any connection with Abigail.

>I've only seen the miniseries.

because pop culture appeals to the lowest common denominator

He won’t print rage anymore, but fuck him i own it and he and the rest of the book burning commies can’t stop me from reading it.

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wait, are you the guy that kept leaving those goosebumps books tucked inside the sky mall magazines for me to find?

Everywhere except in spaniard rape baby land, mate refers to the drink, the bombilla is called a straw and nobody gives a fuck about the cup.

Probably. I had a King phase when I was like 11, he's one of those things you probably shouldn't bother with past a certain age.

Cocaine.

Fuck your lazy hack meme. Here's a legit review SK starter kit
Read these first (all based): Salem's Lot, Carrie, Christine, Night Shift, The Talisman, The Tommyknockers, The Dead Zone, Misery, Skeleton Crew, Different Seasons, Thinner, Four Past Midnight, The Bachman Books

Read these second (only meme based): Pet Semetary, The Stand, It, The Shining, Gunslinger series, Cycle of the Werewolf, Eyes of the Dragon, The Running Man,

Everything else is meh including Cujo and Firestarter.

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Which one has the scene where a dude gets sodomized with a gun?

makes sense. i used to middle coke for some old man that would sit in his apartment jacking it to porn all day while getting high.

>The Dead Zone
The tv show was better.

I think he is famous for other people putting his books to film and doing them better than he wrote them.
>Stand by me
>Shawshank
>IT
>The Shining
All done better by the movies. He is the "half baked ideas" guy of writing. That is why better men come in and steal all his thunder by being better men with better legacy's.

Official American Horror Writers Ranking
1.Poe
2.Lovecraft
3.King
4.Matheson
5.Stine
6.Lansdale
7.Koontz
8.Rice
9.Ketchum
10.Bradbury

The Shining is a terrible book. It's probably the worst example you could have used for even Stephen King.

>Spooky hedge animals come to life.
>They won't hurt you, but boy they'll spook ya.

Misery is his only decent book. Lovecraft is good but predictable and overrated.

Except the dark tower

Coonguy

>please never leave us

I'll never leave those who I love!!!FACT!!!

Why wont it be printed anymore?

This is stupid and you will know one day that it is stupid

Pleb.

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>Koontz on the list at all
I enjoy his books (namely Twilight Eyes and Odd Thomas) but he is a genuine fucking hack. His characters are Coldsteel tier.

He absolutely hates it and is embarrassed by it. I remember him talking about it in a preface for one of his other bachman books

He was only moderately popular before Carrie and The Shining came out. Those films were actually pretty good and the shining was pretty fucking amazing for it's time if you think about it, which boosted more interest in his books and motivated more film makers to make more adaptations. He just sort of had a series of luck in the 80's that moderately talented people adapted his works and it was decent adaptation after decent adaptation, Firestarter, Stand By Me, The Shawshank Redemption. If you've ever read any of his books you will know it's incredibly hit or miss. Some areas are amazing and seem highly professional then there's epic bloat and bad ideas almost like a complete moron came up with the broader plot. His books present good general broad strokes of ideas but when you get down to the details it's a lot of piss poor filler and pretty cheesy cliche boomer ideas.

I wish he'd keep his fucking mouth shut about politics on social media, especially concerning gun control...but you know damn well he is far from talentless.

He wrote a lot. That's it. He's recognizable because he wrote so many fucking shitty books that statistically you probably read one in school or one got a tv or film adaptation.

Writing 500000 stories about a magical psychic child in Maine with an alcoholic father is his one note that he hits everytime.

>he is far from talentless
Read some real shit you stupid nigger ape. Pic related.

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So the bachman books were ones he didn't want to be associated with but still wanted to get paid for?

Anyone who actually enjoys horror fiction - in written or visual form - is going to appreciate a sizeable amount of Kings' massive oeuvre. Anyone who denies this is just a fucking hipster, it is that simple.

Cocaine fueled stories and books easy enough for even your average middle schooler to keep up with
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Wow a bunch of vaguely similar stories with all the very very obvious Stephen King tropes in them! What a horror legend!

Pretty sure you could program an AI to write his shit at this point

The Stand

>tfw they could never make a true to the book version of The Running Man now

Is that the mummy from that Hannibal movie?

The Stand. It happens to Trashcan Man I believe.

Normies who don't wanna feel like normies read / watch his bullshit.

Stanley Kubrick made his best book into a film far better than its source material.

>not liking Dracula and other gothic horror
Brainlet detected. Or worse, esl shitskin.

alternatively people watch or read his stuff just like anything because they enjoy it

Now that's just crazy talk, user.