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>all these potential projects
>Shlomo decides to greenlight Sony Pictures™ Men in Black™ 4: International™

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Because then the script to Star Wars leaks before they begin filming.
Also because then the reader would get distracted by snapchat

You must be an adult to post on this website, user.

>be me last night
>having a kino as fuck dream
>be aware that I'm dreaming, and thinking to myself that I needed to write everything down when I woke up
>wake up
>I forgot everything about the dream
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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what happened to that "blacklist" or whatever, of supposedly god-tier scripts that hollywood was choosing from?

>cringe
Ironic.

Horrible, I don't know how to write.

Boomer producers don't want to lean over the macbooks or squint into their phones to read scripts. Also if you aren't even willing to print out your script it's a good way to filter you from the gatw

It got pozzed and now scripts dont get out on it unless it's:
Written by a woman
Stars a POC
Is a shitty docudrama about some scandal

It makes me legitimately sad that we do not lve in a timeline where movies succeed because they do something new and interesting.
Makes me even sadder to know these slimey kikes will never pay for what they've done.

>Not being a writer-director
Imagine all the good cinema we've lost because some intern didn't want to read a script.

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Honestly the overabundance is probably part of why they're sticking to sequels and remakes. Why spend the money and manpower searching through these piles of scripts for the one or two that'll actually get picked up by a director when you can just dump a load of money into a reboot and hire some hack to do it?

The trick is to not try to remember the dream. Simply write down even the littlest detail you recall. If you're not scrutinizing it it'll all come flooding back to you.
Of course it's too late now, an hour after you're up the memory is too far gone

>tfw animator with enough knowledge to do all aspects of production by myself
>tfw my script will get made if I feel like it

I do poems and romance novels mainly. Scripts are awful things, why would a film need to be written so that it can be filmed? Just film it.

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I wrote three full length, a few pilots, many shorts. It all went nowhere. Don't write a script unless you're going to make it yourself. Unless you're a Jew or a POC. Unironically.

t. Hollywood fag

>be blessed with massive creative potential
>be cursed with laziness and propensity for procrastination
what a cruel joke by God

I did 16 seconds of animation that got 250k views on youtube, but it took me a year to make

I have to format my movie idea into a proper script and send it directly to Will Ferell

based lazy Hollywood dabbing on movies

>why would a film need to be written so that it can be filmed? Just film it.
literally the dumbest thing i've read today. how the fuck would you organize the hundreds of people it takes to make a film, if there weren't a script to guide them?
post some of your gay poems so i can laugh at them pls

they should just put all of them into production. a lot of it would be shit but a lot of it would be kino too, or at least just enjoyable. too bad this can never happen because muh profits. enjoy your capeshit you fucking faggots. it's no coincidence some of the greatest filmmakers of all time were soviets

>be me
>send out a few spec scripts
>get a call from a major studio
>say they want to invite pick up my script and want fly me out to LA for a pitch meeting
>spend next week preparing pitch
>they book me a flight and a hotel
>limo takes me to the production office
>meet with producer
>you don't look like how I pictured you, kid
>looks at cover of script
>what kind of name is that by the way?
>German. My grandfather was Volksdeutch from Yugoslavia
>well, thanks for coming out. i don't think this picture is right for us at this time
>get escorted off property by security

What did I do wrong?

If you really want to fix yourself so you can make things with any consistentcy the only way to do it is to set yourself a schedule. Set aside some time each day and use it to sit down and make shit. Could be 15 minutes, could be 3 hours. Just make sure you stick to it, and don't worry about what you make being good. Just shut off the critic in your head and make stuff. If you do this with any consistentcy you'll be amazed at the volume of your work and the upscale in its quality.

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None of my poems have to do with homosexuality. The only reason you consider my sentiment dumb is because you've never really considered the nature of film. Perhaps it would be good for you to try. You might become a better person doing it, who knows.

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>Unless you're a Jew or a POC. Unironically.
>tfw im racially ambiguous as fuck and can pass as almost any ethnicity that isn’t white or Asian
Should I come up with a ton of really ethnic pen names for each of my scripts? Put “berg” at the end of my last name at least?

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enlighten me on the nature of film then
if you'd like to post one of your heterosexual poems i'd appreciate it too

just say you're a jew and your granddad fled the holocaust. how the fuck are they gonna know?

remember to wear a yarmulke and you'll be fine if your nose is below average

Your mom took me a year to make

Why would you write a story to make a painting? Why stain glass so you can carve wood? Why write a story so you can film it? In any case I cannot post my love poems, they would get me in a lot of trouble.

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user I get what you are saying and I agree wholeheartedly, but do you have to say it like such a faggot?

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Why would you stack them like that? One wrong bump and that shit's gonna tumble.

I did not say anything, I typed it.

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What's stopping you from making your own film independently, user?
You can make one for effectively zero budget, all you need is actors.
You do have friends to act on your film, don't you?

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Too relateable

Love poems as in erotic (not pornographic) poems or philosophic poems dealing with love?

I've been trying to work 3 hours a day 7 days a week for a while, but a lot of it recently has been spent thinking about my film/script rather than actual production of the animation

your metaphors are dumb, it's like saying "why make a blueprint, just build a house"
please explain to me how the making of a modern feature film with even a small budget would work out if there weren't a plan hundreds of people could follow
> love poems, they would get me in a lot of trouble.
oh you're a pedophile that must suck

you dun goofed user
james cameron got the idea for terminator from a dream

Not him but you're right and your wrong. A screenplay is to a film what a blueprint is to a building. It's easy for you to say, "it's just a pile of bricks! skip the blueprints and just stack them." But in reality those blueprints are absolutely vital to organizing the efforts of the hundreds of people involved with the creation. The worlds of painting and novel-writing are completely different in that they often only require a single person who has little need to communicate his ideas to other technicians and artists.

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literally me i just use that energy and talent in shitposting and erp sometimes

Have there ever been any genuinely good films made like this? Stuff with a fantastic script but literally filmed on a phone in someone's backyard?

Both I suppose, though I prefer raw analogy to philosophy when it comes to matters of the heart.
Oh no, I mean I publish my work, I wouldn't want that to be a problem for my editor and all. I wasn't being metaphorical I was being literal, and you can build a house without a blueprint.
You're saying you cannot build a house without a blueprint? That denies quite a bit, i'm not sure if I am prepared to talk to a lunatic about reality.

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Always spend that time making something tangible, wether it's words on the page or drawings. The daydreaming can wait until after you're done

I am currently writing a screen musical version of the beloved UK sitcom Birds of a Feather.
It's a race at the moment because I hear that there are 2 other writers working on adapting the same material.

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Nolan's first film that made him big was just that, others like it are paranormal activity, the blair witch project and basically every arthouse flick slav and french film students pump out that gets praised by art hoes

so dumb

>You're saying you cannot build a house without a blueprint?
Please keep things civil, don't put words into my mouth. I'm saying that the blueprint is a vital and useful tool in communicating how to make the house to the others helping you build it. You can throw it out and say "let's just build the damn thing!" But you'll probably earn the ire of the others making it, who will have trouble understand the ideas you try to communicate since they aren't in the standard format.
Many filmmakers make amazing films without utilizing a screenplay. George Miller, for example, skipped the screenplay and went straight into drafting a storybaord for Mad Mad Fury Road. But every single filmmaker uses some method to communicate their ideas. The screenplay is just the common standard.

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I have a low-paying job and was not born into a rich family
That being said I am self-funding my first short film, which films in October. But after that I'm really hoping to attract outside investments

>be me last night
>having a kino as fuck dream
>be aware that I'm dreaming, and thinking to myself that I needed to write everything down when I woke up
>wake up
>I forgot everything about the dream
>Six months later James Cameron makes it exactly down to the last detail
>Meet him a year later and get a poster signed
>As I leave he whispers "Thanks for the script. No one will ever believe you."
>Smiles at me as I stumble away dumbfounded

How did he do it bros?

I'm concentrating on my (first) novel right now. I spend my 20s failing to get into the movie business and I don't have enough money or connections to make a decent low-budget movie.

Pretty sure that's a fire hazard.

Films shot without scripts:
>like crazy
>blue valentine
>the one i love
>coherence

Films into production before the script was finished, where in both cases it never actually was:
>iron man
>apocalypse now

That's just off the top of my head. There are hundreds more, and another hundreds more that shot mostly from notes or treatments. It's kind of remarkable how much of a film is improvised, even some of these high-budget ones. It's also kind of a common exercise in film school to shoot a piece, at least a scene, without a script. This is to say nothing of how often and how much scripts change during production. I'd be stunned to find that a single film ever reflected its script with unerring accuracy.

if your goal is 'to make it' you were never gonna make it in the first place
if you're a director you can write and shoot your stuff, and if you're smart enough you can easily avoid budget concerns
if you're just a screenwriter it shouldn't concern you whether the story will exist in the movie format or not, it's told all the same

tell us more about it. Are you going to film school or anything like that? What's your budget? What's it about? Who do you have for actors?

>Pretty sure that's a fire hazard.
It's no different than shelves with books or documents.

see
Also I know for a fact Coppla was working madly on the script during production, so that doesn't count.

This sounds like a riot. Getting the ladies from the original series to star would be a deal breaker for me though.

An apt response.
>vital
Poor choice of words, considering your perspective.
>uses some method to communicate their ideas
That would be the screen.

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dude why think just do lmao

Remember the 80s/90s when Hollywood was pushing out all sorts of original movies and more than half of them bombed? Why waste the money on a potential bomb when you can just remake something that will put asses in seats before the first page is typed up?

Why think about not thinking to think to do?

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Left film school as soon as I could. The film's budget is however much is in my bank account at the time of production.
I did a search for actors on Backstage, found some pretty good choices. My brother will be playing the antagonist and this cute little girl will be playing the protag. (She's actually related to a certain famous jewish comedian so it's a good headstart on nepotism).
I'll post the finished product in one of these threads once it's done (with all identifying credits censored, of course).

>That would be the screen
Are you trying to be retarded or are you just a moron? How the fuck would one used the finished film to communicate his ideas to the ones making it?

Lmao none of you will ever amount to anything get real

Am I trying to be retarded or am I just a moron. I kind of like that, it's funny. But as for your question how else would a film communicate it's ideas if it is not a film?

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Based, looking forward to seeing it, user. Wish you the best.
You've already started working on it and you're pretty far as far as I can tell from your posts so that's a damn lot more than most anons and me can say.
Wish I had your confidence

t. actually will never amount to anything and jealous of those who've got ambitions

It's going all right. I'm about 120 pages into the first draft with maybe 10-20 pages to go. Considering I was gunning for a 90-110 pages obviously I'll have to cut that shit down, but It'll feel good just having something down considering how long the ideas been bouncing around inside my head. The first third and last quarter are pretty thought out, but I'll probably have to radically rewrite and re-structure the middle bits to streamline a focus the story more. Work and short film projects have sort of pulled my focus, but I'm hoping to have a readable draft by the end of the year.

When folks ask I bill it as a "post-apocalyptic fable," but in the broadest sense it's a horror film about loneliness, stagnation, and nostalgia. It's based on one of my student shorts, so I at least have something to show when I start looking for money. It's written to be pretty inexpensive anyways, and I've got a good network of folks to work with, so I'm hoping to actually get it up and running in about a year or two. We'll see. You never really know.

That's not what your mom said when I packed her womb with seed.

gonna make something like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=aat2X-8-JdI
and show it to local AA meetings

>literally zero friends or acquantances, let alone anyone remotely related to filmmaking
>still autistically work on a script
I don't know why I do it, really. I don't have anyone to show it too. Nothing to do with it. Even if one day I'm satisfied and finished with it, it'll just rot in a folder.

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This.
>I'm going to win the lottery!!! It's going to be me, I just know it!!!
Good Lord you could cut the delusion in this thread with a knife.

the daydreaming should be done when you're doing something else like eating or working on other shit, that's when your creative input shines the most, because you're not actively pressuring yourself and you approach your work through an outsider perspective so to speak, overcoming tunnel vision and whatnot
only sit down when you have something tangible to work, never go in with nothing in your head thinking something will come up if you just stare at the computer long enough

woah..

This is why I write my screenplays, edit them myself to my satisfaction, then store them on SSDs and put the SSDs in safety deposit boxes to be uncovered after my death.

A film needs to get made before it can be seen. The overwhelming majority of films require more than one person to make. The ideas of the primary artist- the director- need to be communicated to the ones who are helping him make it; the actors, the set designers, the cameramen, etc. He can choose to simply wing it and improvise everything, but unless he's a walking machine he'll find his ideas jumbled and will often forget good ideas. The screenplay allows him to communicate his ideas to the others without having to keep everything in his head at all times.
A production is like a machines. Every gear, conduit, and circut need to be carefully manufactured and assembled to fit the function of the finished product. Be it a screenplay, a storyboard, or a slideshow, there needs to be some documentation so that the individuals making the parts know how to make their parts function as part of the hole.
No, you do not NEED a screenplay to make a film. But yes, you need something to communicate your ideas beyond improvising during production. Otherwise the film will come out a jumbled mess.
Now pleas either shut up or stop pretending to be retarded.

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Who knows if we get a change like the late 70s Hollywood revival again. Studios know they dinlt have to kowtow to anyone and are more than happy designing their years around tent poles and Oscar bait. No need for midrange movies.

what's it about nigga
and that's perfectly fine as long as you're okay with that fact and enjoy reading it after it's done

>lottery=pure luck
>career=something worked towards, earned by the efforts of it's pursuer
statisticfags never seem to realize that the vast majority of people who try to break into the entertainment industry are either completely incompetent or lack the tenacity to keep pushing forward

I wish there was a thread for general film production. I do audio stuff.

I've got zero confidence, I'm riddled with insecurities and have extremely low self-esteem.
But I got good at pretending I've got confidence. So far that seems to be all that's necessary.

Have it done legitimately so that you own it legally then either hire real actors or advertise online using the script since you own it. Or be happy your world exists somewhere in ours and be content with that.
No no, it's soh.
A film also then needs to be seen before it can be made, in the same way a flower is not a flower until it is one. If it is being made it is not a film, it is being made. I can't shut up if I havn't spoken a word.

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post your stuff regardless
I see it more as a general creativity thread

>Reminds me of Robert Downey Sr. saying in a Criterion video that his son gets so many scripts that he has a rule that if the phrase "urban warehouse" appear on the front page he throws it out immediately. Pretty funny.

RDS is cool and his 1969 movie Putney Swope is great!!!FACT!!!

The fuck is a fucking logline.
Stop making up words, fuck.

I was once having a dream in middle of the night and woke up. I remember it was a fucking cool story with twists and turns so I wrote it down. Went back to sleep happy and in the morning read what I wrote but it was bunch of gibberish what made barely any sense.
After that I realized that when you are dreaming, the dreams feels to make sense at the moment but when you put it in our world, it just becomes a broken mess with no logic

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You sound like an absolute fucking potato.

Quite famously, Inland Empire was pretty much written as they went along too.

I have the best script ideas but no idea how to write a proper script. What are the best resources?

Where you blind from birth or was there an accident?

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You do know that an SSD needs to be turned on every now and then to retain data, right? SSDs are not designed for long term cold storage.

>working on my fourth screenplay
>it's almost as long as my first two screenplays (85/95 pages) and my third was 120 pages
>I'm not even close to being halfway done
I read a while ago that Paul Thomas Anderson wrote a 600 page screenplay for his next film. Will my scripts just keep getting longer and longer?
Jesus, a while ago I was insecure about not being able to hit 90 pages. Now look at me

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soundcloud.com/ts2000

This is my Soundcloud where I post music, and some of my past scores. I've also done general sound design for stuff.

>been trying to motivate myself to write a screenplay for years
>decided that Star Wars/Indiana Jones would be a good first attempt because so much already exists
>plotted out my episode 9 and got ready to start writing, wanted to finish before any episode 9 information came out
>a year later and I haven't written any of it, the movie comes out in 3 months.

Oh well the only person I could give it to is my brother and he wouldn't read it

I get it, you're trying clever but you're a complete drooling moron. Here's your last (you).

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Holy crap. Just uploaded the entirety of my written work to the IBM hyperledger.

I could care less for the (you)'s. You are just my perception of (you). So for the fun of it the word you wanted was practicality.

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I like it.
I've only briefly listened to a couple of your tracks yet but my fave is South of the Valley so far.
do you partner with others to use them in short films or whatever or do you do it alone for fun?
Keep on it, dude.

because the manpower costs you nothing with your army of unpaid interns

or make your movie on YOUTUBE with your friends, and when Hollywood steals your script SUE the fuck off of them.

A young man lives in a post-apocalyptic small town where everyone has vanished. The cause are these shadow creatures of mysterious origin that drag you into the darkness never to be seen again. The only thing that keeps them at bay is light. During the day this is fine, but at night you better have some lights around you or you're fucked.

The main character is fine for a while, content even, but time takes it's toll and his mental state deteriorates as he starts hearing the creatures whisper to him in familiar voices. At his lowest point, he gets a message over the radio from a desperate woman and takes them in. After a few days she's followed by a small party of others who she was traveling with previously. They're trying to make their way to a kind of promised land that supposedly exists nearby where others are gathering and thriving, but car troubles have stranded them at the main characters home.

The rest of the film is about the young man as he gets to know the strangers, discovers their dark secrets, and struggles with either staying in the comfort he's created for himself or venturing into an unknown wilderness where the only certainty is that all lights eventually run out...

I partner with people when I can. Most of the time when I do, I write original music for them, though. Thank you for checking my stuff out!

Most of hollywood is legally obligated to play their employees. Probably because it would be extremely easy for them to find hoards of people willing to do hours of work completely free, more than any other industry

No prob, i'll listen to more of it later too since I like it already. Where do you find people to partner with from?

Well a lot of the people I've partnered with I met in college. It's kind of cliche, sometimes it really does come down to networking. Recently though it's been a lot of online people I've met with who are cool, and they come from a ll over. A guy in Australia. A girl in the UK. New York.

I hate playing the social media game, but it's kinda gotten me some opportunities.

There are 1 million books published in the US alone each year

I've self-published 20,000 books in 2019 alone. Need to get those bad boys sold. Half are about WoW auction house strategies, the others are about vampires.

why not just turn your script into a novel, then sell the script version on the strength of you sales?

you aren't a talentless coward are you?

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>not turning your poem into a novela then reducing it to a short story before painting it so it better translates into a script

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A logline is a one or two sentence summery of what the movie's about on the cover page. It's meant for readers who dig through countless screenplays every day to get a sense of your script without having to devote precious time actually reading 20+ pages before dumping it. So yeah, more or less a hyper condensed text pitch.

this is the worst Carlos post I've seen in years

absolutely based
watch i am legend, a quiet place and war of the worlds, but you've already seen them certainly

Actually, it's more like this

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Is it called “A Bright Place” instead of “A Quiet Place” as well?

There is a blue valentine script. First thing that pops up when you Google it.

>tfw want to be Writer/Director/actor fag
>I write the protagonist with me I mind
I feel like I have a problem

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Speak for yourself, I keep a dream diary and my dreams are ACTUALLY kino.

You can only get away with that if you're super handsome
see: vincent gallo, orson welles, buster keaton

does this stacks of paper make anyone else nervous? what if it tipped over, im sure the jews could find some desperate intern to sort through it all and reorganize it but wew what a mess it would be

trust me, it wasn't as interesting as you thought it was in the dream

We'll get another revival. People will burn out on all that eventually. Everything is perpetually in flux, this too shall pass.

I'm almost done editing my first feature film, and I think that if we market it right it could be a big deal. I'm almost done with my next two screenplays too, plus I have a huge backlog of ideas I've started or haven't gotten to yet.

I don't care about a career, I'm just trying to blow the lid off of the industry.

>submit script called "If You Burn This Without Reading You're a Faggot and Racist"
>mfw

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You're right, I have seen them. I'm aware post-apocalypse shit is a bit played out, but there are some really specific themes and ideas I have that hopefully make it fresh. I'm a sucker for films with a sense of "beautiful desolation" and post-apocalypse is the best kind of film to do that on a budget.

Close actually, "Lamplight."

I was really scared when "A Quiet Place" came out because it's base premise of "hiding from gimmick monsters with small group in a rural town" seemed so similar, but luckily beyond that my script is pretty different. In terms of modern horror it's more in line with "It Comes at Night" except there's actually a monster.

>wait for him outside
>overpower him
>drag him in to my car
>savagely fuck him in the ass
>drag a cum dripping finger on his lips whispering " no one will ever believe you"
>probably get AIDS from him
>die and go to Hell
>he's actually a demon, with enough power to get into peoples dreams
>he sees me
>OH SHIT
>he's actually cool and gives me the job to shovel coal under the jew cauldron
>do an excellent job, the cauldron is red hot 24/7
>get promoted
>now I can afford that cute house near the lake of fire
>meet a cute demonette who enjoys long walks, Stephen King novels and eating banker hearts
>not too shabby

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were you influenced by the road too?

Sounds very similar to Vanishing on 7th Street

jokes on you i already peaked and am on a downward spiral

Haven't seen/read "The Road" yet. Someday I will, It sounds right up my alley after all, but everyone tells me it's crazy depressing so I feel like I need to be in the right mindset to watch it.

Never heard of this. Will have to check it out. Thanks.