Is it really the greatest superhero movie?

Is it really the greatest superhero movie?

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BvS better

TDK changed the game for action films. Many films after it try to be it. I think that Heath Ledger carried that film though.

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>BvS better
kek, you illiterate never give up

Batman begin

Nope. This is.

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Spider-Man 2, Watchmen, Man of Steel and BvS is better.

m night shamma llama ding dong is a complete and utter hack and this whole series was trash.

>Man of Steel and BvS is better.
>movies for literal retards
>better
if it was bait here is your (you)

Don't group in Spiderman 2 with that trash.

This is the total, complete, final and ultimate list of all TRUE capekino

Spider-Man 1 and 2
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises airplane scene, and literally just the airplane scene
Joker

That's it.

>Forgetting Donner Supes

leave zoomer

1. The Dark Knight
2. Avengers: Infinity War (I hate Marvel too, but lets be honest - it was great)
3. Unbreakable

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But TDK is a movie for literal retards. It's just another stupid blockbuster, while MoS and BvS deconstructs archetype of superheroes and questions their existence in our world and culture.

Batman Begins is better.

>Donner Supes
Even Man of Kino was better than this trash

>But TDK is a movie for literal retards
movie filtered you
>while MoS and BvS deconstructs archetype of superheroes and questions their existence in our world and culture.
>it's not a shitty movie if I believe so hard enough
headcanon. Literally not in the movie. Kys and stop living in your imaginary world

>I hate Marvel too, yet i still watch their films
Dumb frog

>2. Avengers: Infinity War (I hate Marvel too, but lets be honest - it was great)
no. it wasn't. You were just hyped

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All zoomers must fucking hang

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What the fuck was this about? Why did Nolan think it would be a good idea to have Harvey lunch this guy

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man of shit was probably written by a toddler

The Toxic Avenger

It's crap. Overrated crap. Marginally better than most capeshit but ultimately still crap.

For me it's The Dark Knight > The Crow > Logan > Dredd > Unbreakable > Batman Begins > Batman: Returns > Spider-Man 2 > Superman 1978 > Spider-Man 1 > Sin City > Hulk 2003 > Winter Soldier > Infinity War > MoS > Darkman
Everything that wasn't mentioned is car-bitch.
Watchmen is above decent, but inferior to the source material.
As far as Yea Forums series are concerned, I'm going with Daredevil.

Barbarella is the best

It's great and you know it baby. Stop lying to yourself.

>Prometheus levels of tastes
cringe

>It's great and you know it baby. Stop lying to yourself.
He's probably a Snyderfag contrarian who see TDK's shadow as a menace to the toddler shit he pretends to like.

The least shit capeshit (in no particular order)
>Watchmen
>V for Vendetta
>TDK

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Uh where's Spiderman 2?

Good list. Excited to see where the Joker lands.

I have reasonably high expectations for the Trickster. We'll see.

It was also the last decent superhero movie

Spiderman's shit
Change my mind

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Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Superman
Spider-Man 1
Spider-Man 2
Mask of the Phantasm

>not liking capeshit makes you a baby
>so says the user that is unable to accept differing opinions
What the fuck is a snyderfag? Someone who doesn't like crap movies?

>BvS
>Spider-Man 2
>Batman Returns

These three are my favorites. TDK is pretty good too. It's the only film in Nolan's trilogy I find myself rewatching every once in awhile.

In the trash where it belongs

Based patrician anons

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The Iron Giant or The Incredibles.

goddamn the writing in that movie was so cringey what the hell

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I think I might be retarded but I like DCEU minus Suicide Squad more than MCU.

You'll see true cape kino soon enough.

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If you like MoS and BvS more than MCU then it's fine, it's how it should be. But Suicide Squad? What the fuck

You're not retarded. I really like Snyder's films and wish he'd make more.
But to say he topped what Nolan did would be lying to myself.

What might that be?

Based

Yikes

Ultra-yikes

In time, youngin'. All will be revealed in time. The red capes are coming.
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Do you people really care whether the shite you watch is DC or Marvel? It's all basically the same shite anyway.

>Spawn
Dude stop listening to limp bizkit, move out of your parents house, stop being 14
Those are the worst comics in the world
Tod MacFarlane is the worst comics artist and writer in the world

not even the best batman movie

>Many films after it try to be it.
for example?

infinity war was good

I actually get can't over the voice Christian Bale did for batman, it's so fucking awful it ruins my enjoyment of the movie

Nolan trying to make a serious, gritty flick about a man who dresses up as a bat to fight crime is what ruined it for me. I'm not saying it should be Adam West style silliness but it certainly shouldn't be serious.

i can take that seriously since it's capeshit, capeshit is always gonna be stupid as hell, plus it's easier once you realize the real insane person in those movies was batman all along

The Raimi trilogy is far better. And I prefer the Keaton movies, as well.

yes, kino of the highest order

Apparently they planned on doing a voice modulator in post-production of Begins like Batfleck and even filmed scenes with exposition on this (which I think also allowed Baleman to diffuse and "throw his voice," making him feel everywhere-but-nowhere), but ended up deciding against it. It really is the weakest link in Nolan's movies, they went full tacticool in every other regard and might as well have just gone all the way.

>no into the spider-verse
End your life forthwith, peon.

Concede

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why tho? did they not hear how fucking stupid it sounded?

>did they not hear how fucking stupid it sounded
OF COURSH

So help me Jeebus, if you motherfuckers don't start putting some respeck on Captain America: The Winter Soldier's name. That movie was excellent.

Yes

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have sex

You're an idiot. If any property has to be serious it's Batman. Learn to distinguish between the different characters and their thematic core.

Its a superhero movie so the standards arent that high. Probably it is.

>batman has to be serious

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No question about it.

Serious maybe but Nolan tried to make it too rooted in the real world. That really didn't work for me.

Legit good points from Synder there

>Someone who doesn't like crap movies?
one who only like shit movies but thinks he's above the lowest common denominator

>>BvS
grow up, baiter
stop samefagging

>I like shit and I want attention

also forgotten

holy shit, he is really that stupid. Glad he won't touch these characters ever again
grow up, teen

>That really didn't work for me
Legit

Why are Snyderfaggots still embarassing themselves?

>captain america winter soldier
>excellent
Why is this meme still alive?

Watching TDK on acid was infinitely more enjoyable. A very well structured film

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>rails against mature, serious takes on comic lore in favor of puerile fatsuits and anus jokes
>”grow up, teen”
Embarrassing

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this is

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>>rails against mature, serious takes on comic lore in favor of puerile
he's not doind that, tho. And nothing in his movies ever suggested a single hint of maturity or understanding of the lore, faggot.
Acting pretentious and intellectual about that is also the epitome of immaturity

That's not Howard the Duck

Jesus christ why does it look so shit? It looks like a cheaply made tv show.

I haven't watched that yet, is that a home media pre-CGI special feature or does he actually use that mocap suit for his illusions?

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Spiderman 2, into the spiderverse, and Logan are all up there for best superhero films.

Lmao cinematography here is just non-existent

Based. Batman v Superman is the first and last mature superhero film.

BvS and Suicide squad are both kino

Suicide Squad is MCU tier trash. There's nothing unique or interesting about style nor substance of this movie.

Literally watched it yesterday. It is a great film, but not a good Batman movie. Too long, Joker's plan is unbelievably complicated, everyone trusts Dent because he's muh sooo good, the love triangle is meh, etc, etc.

these guys

the Crow shouldn't even be on the same list as any of those others lmao

Amazing Spider-Man
Skyfall
Star Trek Into Darkness
Robocop (remake)
Fant4stic
Nightmare on Elm Street (remake)
Man of Steel
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Snow White & the Huntsman
Godzilla (2014)
Robin Hood (2010)
Joker

This. People are so blinded by the Joker in TDK that they fail to see the film is very mediocre.

I know this is bait but suicide squad was maybe the worst film I've ever watched. It gave me the kind of anxiety you get when you have a huge task to do and you don't even know where to start. I got to the part where the Mexican guy gets his flame on then the stream started to buffer and I took it as a sign to stop watching.

all abominations (haven't seen joker)

Wtf was the point of this whole sequence? Seems just the typical Nolan Complicated but Retarded trope.

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Blocks your path.

Why is best?
(1) Its a mortal man with no superpowers taking on a vicious drug cartel. His only superpower is his courage, determination and single mindedness of his purpose

(2) Its not some gay and unbelievable "we must save the universe!!!" hero bullshit with ridiculous stakes. Its a vicious drug cartel terrorizing a group of people, and Judge Dredd is here to curb stomp the cartel into nothingness. It works on every level and is more real, scary and believable.

(3) Lena Hedley is a complex and damaged villain. She produces and controls a drug distribution network. Her gang is 100% more scary and effective than anything in any of the Marvel movies outside of Thanos (who rocks). Who is more scary Yea Forums the drug cartel on Sicario or the faggot flying snake creatures on Avengers? You know the answer. You're just too soi to write it.

(4) The movie has subtle but real commentary on the vicious circle of violence in Megacity. Violence begets violence begets violence. Judge Dredd IS the meatgrinder and doesn't give too fucks. Awesome.

Dark Knight fucking sucks. The whole movie revolves around Batman's moral dilemna of (checks notes) "if I kill Joker, I become just as bad as Joker!'. Same thing with Harvey Dent, that by killing Joker he becomes a villain just like him.

So let me get this straight, if I kill a man who is blowing up hospitals, schools and ferries of women and children, I become just as bad as him? Is this what they teach in British film school now for morality? Jesus fucking christ that is retarded.

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KYS, they are my favourite kino. You are not special because you like one over the other

>Suicide Squad is MCU tier trash. There's nothing unique or interesting about style nor substance of this movie.
Like BvS, then

An excellent take. Now wait for the rabid Flying Mouseman fans screaming at you that a dude who routinelly cripples people with CQC wearing heavy armor somehow never managef to kill anyone by accident and thus is superior to normal vigilantes or someone like Frank Castle.

It was the single best conveyance of superheroes as modern mythology that has been rendered on the big screen. And yes, that has been the core of DC’s approach to its heroes for decades, from Grant Morrison’s JLA to Waid’s Kingdom Come. It also deftly wove together and dovetailed the two “final” Batman and Superman myths, DKR and DoS, cleverly inverting them throughout (e.g. the talking heads are debating Supes’ impacts on society rather than Bruce’s, it ends with Bruce over a not-quite dead Clark’s grave rather than the opposite, etc.). As a lifelong aficionado of both characters, it was by far the finest representation of either, paring them down to their cores in order to rebuild them with a focus on and examination of why they hold the values and perspectives they each do. The scene with Kevin Costner on the mountaintop is likely the closest to profundity a CapeKino flick will reach in our lifetimes
(You), boring user, have not only no understanding or appreciation of either character, but also lack the taste or the openness to even value what themes, idea, and previous works were being explored. You should - and I mean this, honestly - go back to the fatsuit and anus joke schlock. It’s more your speed

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t. Disney PR

>doesn’t give too fucks
>(checks notes)
>[what are principles?]
Awful

yeah, no. Stop. I kow you spent the last 3 (4?) years masturbating that failure, but please just keep your pathetic copypasta in r/DC_Cineshit.
The rest of the world rejected your stupidity and your condescending preaching won't accomplish anything
just deal with it like a grown up would.
Also Snyder Cut never and I'm dancing becuse of this

stop explaining that shit, cultist

Christopher Nolan’s Batman fight scenes are extremely weak and serves to portray Batman as an armored patsy than much of anything else.
In Begins, he does take on Ducard on equal footing and even surprises him at one point but considering the two’s history of training together it’s fair to say this is an exception rather than the norm. Just like in the rest of the trilogy, Batman is overpowered in the fight, and only wins due to external circumstances, in this case, Gordon blowing out the tracks.
In The Dark Knight, every time he’s faced the Joker he was ganged up on by his goons allowing Rachel to be taken hostage, crashes his own motorcycle for some reason, and mauled by dogs and held under scaffolding. In the last two times without intervention from Gordon, and his conveniently ejecting forearm blades the Joker would’ve won both confrontations.
In Rises, Bane outright outmatches him thanks in part of Batman’s own neglect, but even during the rematch, Batman only got an upper hand by exploiting Bane’s dependence on his mask, which proved to be extremely painful for him. Otherwise the fight would’ve likely gone the same way as before.
Onto Gotham itself, the slightly surreal and admittedly impractical architecture that makes up Gotham’s identity is present in Begins, but is completely absent in TDK and TDKR, opting for a more general cityscape. The downplaying of Batman’s own importance in the plots, the visually boring City of Gotham and the focus on the supporting cast to carry out vital plot points makes for good crime thrillers, but terrible Batman movies that only show Nolan’s distain for Comics as a medium and Batman as a Character.

>It wasn’t as popular!1!!
Yes, this is once again proven to be the only response the puerile ignoramuses who rail against BvS are capable of. Entirely unsurprising
Back to your fatsuits, now, boy. Maybe if you clap extra hard Sony will let you keep some Penis Parker jokes, too

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>It also deftly wove together and dovetailed the two “final” Batman and Superman myths, DKR and DoS, cleverly inverting them throughout

DoS is not the final Superman myth. It was a shitty story that was overhyped due to the gimmick and marketing.

But surely if I liked crap movies I would like TDK

We're talking about capeshit here no need to get so aggressive.

Yeah I don't know why people here are so upset with their capeshit tastes.

It is the closest thing the character has to a final myth, no? Unless you’re going to point to far out craziness like DC One Million. And its inherent inferiority to DKR is why it is rendered more of a B-plot, with primarily only the iconography and the outcome lifted as part of the tapestry WB wove together of the most famous “death” stories of its finest heroes. Anyone who’s read both can find something new to appreciate on each rewatch, how so much under recognized dialogue, imagery, and narrative beats stem from the fusion of the two iconic limited series

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Fpbp

Inferiority complex, the post

>It is the closest thing the character has to a final myth, no? Unless you’re going to point to far out craziness like DC One Million. And its inherent inferiority to DKR is why it is rendered more of a B-plot, with primarily only the iconography and the outcome lifted as part of the tapestry WB wove together of the most famous “death” stories of its finest heroes.
Next time in a competent movie, thanks

Vapidity, the person

This is.

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I don't think any superhero movie is truly great but here's my list.

Very good and worth regular rewatches tier
TDK, BB, Ironman, Hellboy 2, Unbreakable, Logan, BTAS: The movie and SM2.

Good and worth one or two rewatches tier
Hellboy, Spiderverse, Batman returns, Batman 1989, watchmen, SM1, The crow, Incredibles.

Good but watch only once tier
MOS, GOTG, TDKR

Everything else is either decent and forgettable or straight up trash.

hello red dit

300 and Watchmen

Pretty good list dawg

No, it's a crime thriller where the main characters dressed up as a bat and clown. The characters look and sound ridiculous because they dress up as comic book characters in a serious-toned film. It's cringe to think that anyone in the right mind would take throat-cancer man dressed as a bat seriously. It is not a comic book movie even if you think its a good movie.

Just kill yourself already. God knows you've been delaying it for a while.

Oops I forgot to Donner's Superman 1 and 2 in the 3rd tier.

>kills capeshit with one scene
Can Snyder be stoped?

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>being this upset by opinions about kids movies

Very well said.

Upset? I'm having a great time. Just had lunch too

>I’ve never read a comic book: the post
Why did you think this most facile of all takes would be valued?

Not even close. Endgame is the greatest superhero movie ever. Followed closely by Infinity War, Civil War, Winter Soldier, GotG ect. Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther and mcu Spidey are also great.

Very likely memeing, but Infinity War is the best ensemble film, if you choose to view it strictly as such.

It is a bit interesting that nobody seriously suggested any of these this entire thread except for this throwaway joke post. Despite their enduring popularity, nobody ever seems to regard any of them as exemplars of the genre

Nah I'm serious. Mcu is the greatest thing any comic lover could have asked for.

A great ensemble film that has bland ensemble directing?

Honestly how can anyone look at Russo movies and think they're worth called anything but mediocre. I mean it makes the directing in Nolan and Raimi films look like Orson Welles.

this post left me in a perpetual state of cringe

>tfw Infinity War has a Captain Marvel tease shoehorned in so it goes down to a 6/10

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He was already stopped.
Complete failure did that.

I unironically agree. winter soldier is much better than tdk.

thing is, either you make an artsy Oscar baity film or a good comic blockbuster. they are based on comic books afterall. infinity war and endgame are the dopest grandest films ive ever seen ngl.

only for the bitch in latex

>that'll show em how not upset I am

I’d put X2, Watchmen, The Incredibles, Days of Future Past, and Into the Spiderverse above it, but Infinity War was at least an interesting and enjoyable film - unlike Ultron or Endgame or any of the recent solo flicks. Easily the MCU’s best effort of the last five years
Lol. No, you aren’t

>endgame
it was enjoyable as the last chapter of the saga. the final battle and time travel were amazing

TDK is one of the best superhero films ever made without a doubt, could possibly be put up as one of the greatest films ever made.
youtube.com/watch?v=LmkdFGSGcBA

And it worked like a charm.

I enjoyed the final battle and opening 15m quite a bit. The middle 2 hours of time travel shenanigans struck me as very lazy and borderline insulting. Tony “only a genius on Earth” Stark inventing time travel overnight was where it started to go off the rails, and by the time they were doing the Ant-Man pooping his pants bits and outright stating to the viewer “I get emails from a raccoon, none of this has to make sense” as a cop-ou6 for their messy lack of consistent logic I had mentally checked out.
Tony and Cap got nice send-offs, but they ruined Thor and Hulk’s characters for lazy gags. The whole flick just screams “don’t take it too seriously bc we sure didn’t!”, which makes it hard to engage with

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Disney's MCU isn't exactly up my alley in terms of what I wanna see in a cape flick, but like I said, strictly from an ensemble point of view, it really is the best we've got at the moment.
I didn't say it was the best capeshit period.

>ctrl+f "CIA"
>0 results

This board has truly fallen from grace.

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IMDB just posted an article on their front page touting Denzel as a great choice for Magneto. Imagine the asshurt and backlash about replacing a jewish superhero with a nigger.

>ctrl+f 'returns'
>only 3 results
What is wrong with this board
Spidey 1 and 2 still take the cake though

Not even close

Is it official though? Or just a rumor?

I don't think Tony invented time travel overnight. He had been told pymstuff, and I'm pretty sure days passed till their first test.

Personally I liked Thor's arc. Sure they did make him a comic relief, but it was cool seeing a depressed fat slob of a hero.

The writers are fucking stupid. They are contradicting the rules they made themselves. I disagree with them.

Bruh raimi films are trash. only boomerfags like it. Tobey sucked as spiderman and had almost no charisma at all. mj was shit too. it has got outdated imo

>be Nolan
>make WB earn over a billion with TDK
>time to move on
>WB says you have to finish the trilogy
>say fine, you'll do it
>start with an unnecessary expensive, challenging and dangerous stunt that runs for a little over 5 minutes just because you can

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It's officially an opinion article backed by someone on IMDB who thought it had merit enough to be on the front page. The chances of it ever coming to film if the jews hear about it is zero. As is the article staying on IMDB front page. IMDB must have minimal kike influence if that article made it to the front. I'm phoneposting from the armsroom at work, so I can't post SS.

Gotcha.

Matthew Modine played the deputy commissioner in DKR that led the charge at the end. He isn’t part of the plane scene. Strange oversight
It’s a fabricated rumor from fake news site We Got This Covered. It’s nonsense
Regardless, you can’t make a point that there’s a galaxy of superior intellects out there and then have your human character develop a radically new technology no other civilization has managed without any impetus aside from the plot requiring it and then sweep it aside with a naughty word joke. That’s incredibly lazy. The Thor stuff really grated me, he was one of the best parts of Infinity War and in Endgame he’s like an SNL parody rather than a real character. It even looked incredibly cheap. The fact that they were doing so just to force him to give up his titles to Tessa Thompson and his power and hammer to Herschlag is simply nauseating

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It's still up on the front page as of now.

Here's my personal take on the Thor situation. Fat/depressed Thor should've happened some time before or during Ragnarok, but not at the series' conclusion like it did.
I'm willing to close my eyes for the Hulk, since Professor Hulk is a canon entity in the comics, that behaves in a very similar fashion to what we saw in the film.
If the rumors regarding the Hulk vs Wolverine movie are true, he'll get his redemption in the form of a new personality that's closer to being morally gray.

How do you know no alien has discovered time travel? According to the directors, Thanos was easily able to replicate the pym particles and stuff in the past.

I see. Imo he looks great as a viking with the braided beard. And I personally enjoyed the talk he had with his mom, him being depressed yet worthy

>I'm willing to close my eyes for the Hulk, since Professor Hulk is a canon entity in the comics, that behaves in a very similar fashion to what we saw in the film
I’m getting pedantic here, but that’s actually not true. The Professor in the comics was the result of the merging of Grey Hulk, Savage Hulk, and Banner’s personalities. Thus, he is intelligent, yet aggressive, entitled, belligerent, and even sadistic. He does NOT behave like the dabbing NuMale version in Endgame, which is really just Ruffalo playing Ruffalo.
Anyway, I’d be down for a Wolverine vs Hulk movie if they got the right director, but it seems like they’re ditching the green guy for She-Hulk as part of the new wave of grrl power heroes led by She-Thor, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel, and - I kid you not - Riri Williams. Going to have to pass on that

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>Tony “only a genius on Earth” Stark inventing time travel overnight was where it started to go off the rails
He didn't invent it, the concept already exists via quantum realm shenanigans, he only created a means to navigate it, a GPS. He even tells Pepper this himself, "I figured out time travel" not "I invented time travel".
>mentally checked out
I can tell, but there has been lots of other brainlets perplexed by many things in Endgame that are answered in the movie itself, pretty embarrassing for Yea Forums overall.

>How do you know no alien has discovered time travel?
Because we have well-traveled galactic characters as part of the time travel plot. And because every planet in the universe was decimated but only primitive humans attempted to remedy it
>Thanos was easily able to replicate the pym particles and stuff in the past
Another contrivance to move the plot along. He obviously didn’t have time travel to begin with or he could have obtained all the stones far more easily. The last stone he had to fight that massive battle for at the end of Infinity War - wherein he got mutilated - was one he freely gave away to Loki back in 2012
>I personally enjoyed the talk he had with his mom, him being depressed yet worthy
Why was he worthy? He was literally refusing to help anyone and playing product placement video games and binge eating, despite his people needing his leadership more than ever. We can’t even say that worthiness is an enduring character trait bc that contradicts what we see in the first Thor. Why would lazy, selfish Thor be worthy when selfless heroes like Rhodey and Clint were proven not to be in Ultron? And presumably he will be unworthy again in the next one to allow Hershlag to usurp him as She-Thor. It’s just messy

>He didn’t invent time travel, he invented a method for traveling through time
>[calls others brainlets]
Jesus, user. This isn’t even worth engaging with. Take a knee

This is the dumbest post I’ve seen in literal months

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Glad to see you know your source material. I'd still argue that the character was mostly faithful, except it was obviously an MCU's twist of the Professor, and thus more comedic/downplayed. Better him than Joe Fixit getting this treatment desu.
>Anyway, I’d be down for a Wolverine vs Hulk movie if they got the right director
A "trusted source" said they were aiming to get the movie done by 2022, introduce Wolverine and that the Hulk would be based primarily on his Immortal interpretation.
>but it seems like they’re ditching the green guy for She-Hulk as part of the new wave of grrl power heroes led by She-Thor, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel, and - I kid you not - Riri Williams
I think the poor reception will eventually bite them in the ass and they'll cancel most of the projects that aren't very well received, similarly to how it happened with some Netflix series.
To be honest, the only Disney+ project I'm genuinely excited about is Moon Knight, but the possibility of failure is high, so we'll see.

...Please be kidding

With you on Moon Knight, bro. Seems like we’re on the same page with a lot of this. Enjoyed our discussion

This nicely articulates why BvS is such a fascinating film. I really hope the success of Joker shows WB that they can continue to approach the characters with this sort of weight and gravitas, but I worry that Aquaman and Wonder Woman being so financially successful will lead them down the path of merely imitating Marvel’s jokey, fun-first approach

For sure. I'd discuss it more in depth but the jannies have been absolutely anal as of late and banned me just now for no reason.
Take care.

Winter Soldier is the best capeshit imo

>BvS is such a fascinating film.
stop samefagging

It is easily one of the most discussed movies of the decade. TLJ and BvS are the two most controversial blockbusters of the 2010s

they are not discussed. A Snyderbot appearing, having a meltadown and being btfoed becuse nobody cares is not discussing. maybe YOU and Snyder are discussing it in some obscure corner of the net.
The real world moved on years ago.
>TLJ and BvS are the two most controversial blockbusters of the 2010s
They are terrible movies. Nobody believes how bad they are.
Controversial doesn't mean that non many get them.

Go to bed, Snyder.
Get over it

Both movies are incredibly polarizing to the point that they are discussed on this very board literally every single day
>Controversial doesn't mean that non many get them
ESL?

>they are discussed on this very board literally every single day
that's not discussing.
It's just you mentioning it and then samefagging a "based Snyder"
Everyone else mention it as a joke or as a "how not to do it" example, at best

It would've been better if there was more Joker and less everyone else

Stop lying bro

ESL confirmed.
There’s been plenty of good discussion in this thread, along with carefully crafted images mapping the complex narrative threads and meticulously laid symbolism. You’re just an foreign-born autist who can’t even a hold a conversation. Good riddance

TDK is the one of the worst movies Ive ever seen.

OK capeshit:
-Iron Man 3 and 1
-Endgame
-Winter soldier
-Kickass
-X-men first class

Awful taste

>There’s been plenty of good discussion in this thread,
They are all you, with your copypastas nobody asked for.
Goodriddance, schizo

>enduring popularity
Does anyone actually watch them past their theatrical release? They're like the fast food of movies.

>complex narrative threads and meticulously laid symbolism
Imagine unironically holding this opinion

Cringe

Awful taste in films Yea Forums.

These are the best superhero films;

Superman (Francis Ford version)
The Dark Knight Returns
Super
Guardians of the Galaxy
Kick Ass

Yes. Not one fucking Marvel quip. It's actually a good movie, well-paced and entertaining, but intelligent and with character depth (Bruce, Alfred, Joker, Harvey, Gordon, etc).

I wish we had directors like Nolan who actually try, and don't (((self deprecate))) and make fart jokes.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fregoli_delusion
I hope you seek treatment, user

>Kick Ass
>Guardians
Hellllloooo Redddittt

I am not from reddit. Guardians has great music and is just pure fun and Kick Ass is fun and also has great music. Nothing wrong with that, pal.

>Dance off bro, you and me
How is that I can already tell you put Baby Driver on your Top 10 that year?

Last time I watched the trilogy I thought Batman Begins was as good and maybe my favorite of the three. The score, especially the way it establishes the Batman theme slowly through the film, is a highlight. The interpretation of Gotham, the characters, and the tech too. It put everything in place for TDK to work as well as it did. Oh, and pic related.

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Well yeah that was the worst part of the film haha not gonna argue that. Not seen Baby Driver, it's Edgar Wright isn't it? He's ok.

The only good modern Batman.
(The only watchable one too)

Yep.

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Yea, Edgar Wright. Differing tastes aside, you’d probably genuinely like it. It’s a similarly styled, music-centric comedic thriller. Might be worth checking out if you have a free night

You are right. BvS is indeed the last jedi of cape movies.

It's the best superhero movie where everybody agrees it's a superhero movie and nobody says anything like
>is it REALLY a superhero movie???
Like with Deadpool or watchmen or shit like that

Stop feeding the troll, user

It’s the opposite side of the same coin. Difference being, people hate TLJ for having characters act inconsistent with prior entries in the same series, whereas smallbrains hate BvS for having characters act inconsistent with other interpretations of the same characters from other mediums. People hate TLJ for ruining every emotional beat of a war film with forced humor, quipshitters hate BvS for being entirely serious and earnest in its portrayal of funnybook heroes. Star Wars fans hate TLJ for breaking the rules and physics of its setting, puerile manchildren hate BvS for not directly porting over the exact censorship constraints of the Comics Code Authority to its cinematic adaptation
It’s actually very interesting to compare the two. Despite taking thematically similar approaches, they have completely opposite fans and detractors

Talking to yourself again and calling it a discussion, snyderbot?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fregoli_delusion
Seek immediate treatment, your obvious derangement is often co-mordbid with more dangerous mental illnesses

Peak superhero movie, imo

Will do. Cheers.

See this painting? It should be upside down

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You're throwing pearls before swine, user. Excellent post, but unfortunately it will never get through to the shitposters who blindly hate BvS.

I had so much hope for the DCEU after all that Nolankino.

T_T

This is pure marvel capeshitter cope

>The Dark Knight Returns
I also love cheaply made korean sweatshop animations that shit all over the source material.

Think you're being a tad harsh there mate. It's a solid adaptation of a great Batman story. And reuniting Frank Miller and Robocop is a nice touch. Weller is not often mentioned in the best Batman category but I think he was great.

I fucking love Dredd, nothing to argue with you about these points but your characterization of Batman is willingly simplistic and misleading.

>"if I kill Joker, I become just as bad as Joker!'.

This was never the point or even implicitely voiced during any scene of the movie. He wouldn't be as bad as the Joker but he would become something else, a lawful tyrant who rules Gotham City with an iron fist. Batman already operates outside of the law as a private vigilante which is already a dodgy as fuck greyzone and equips him with powers and judicial leeway he simply shouldn't have as an unauthorized civilian who is not accountable to any institution.
Batman couldn't do the things he does if he didn't have a few screws lose and his absolutist obsessive character and mindset requires him to reconcile any action with a moral paradigm. So if he killed the Joker, why stop there? Aren't there enough mobsters, lunatics and serial killers who equally threaten the lives of multiple people on a daily basis and are themselves rotten to the core?
If Batman broke this one rule he'd be only one step away from creating extermination camps for the criminally insane. He can't become judge, jury and executioner like Dredd, because his power over Gotham far exceeds the power of Dredd and he doesn't want to turn into a far worse meatgrinder as you called it.

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Holy fuck, talk about based.

mmmmmmm lunch

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Fair enough

fuck why isn't that quote real

>not even mentioning Adam West's Batman

Jesus, it's GOAT

>Think you're being a tad harsh there mate. It's a solid adaptation
It's a subpar adaptation, at its best. I am probably being more harsh than I should be, but there really is no reason to watch the animated movie when you can just read the graphic novel. The movie takes too many (admittedly small) liberties with the subject material whilst also removing some of the most iconic lines from the graphic novel. Taking liberties would be fine if it could stand up on its own merits, but it can't. The animation is poor, the art style is ugly, the pacing is off, etc. If it weren't standing atop the shoulders of its source material, it would just be seen as another average straight-to-dvd DC film.