Mulholland Drive

Watched this last night, after going over all of the details and theories I think this might be one of the greatest things I've watched. Is David Lynch a genius?

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when i watched at the movies when it first came out I saw tits and muff.
When I bought the DVD it was edited out

>Is David Lynch a genius?
Yes. Mulholland Dr. is great, but i prefer Lost Highway.

I've only ever seen Twin Peaks before this, got a very similar vibe from Mulholland Drive, especially the early parts which makes sense since it was a pilot. How do Lost Highway and Blue Velvet compare?

Just watch em man

Some people say that Lost Highway and Mulholland Dr have similar structure, on the surface that may be true, but they are still 2 very different films. Lost Highway is so creepy for the first 40 minutes, really fantastic atmosphere. Blue Velvet is more straightforward narrative but the film has a certain charm. The corny romance is somehow beautiful and Lynch achieves certain atmosphere which is absolutely fantastic. Both are great. Every Lynch's film is worth watching at least once, even if you don't end up liking some of them.

Lost highway is better

Also the hitman scene in MD feels horribly out of place

>the hitman scene in MD feels horribly out of place
Why

It's clear that its a leftover from the pilot but I see it as just another part of Diane's denial. If the hitman is a bumbling idiot, maybe Camilla could still be alive. It definitely has some significance because of the reappearance of the black book.

it felt like a tarantino scene

I pretend I liked that movie to impress my hipster friends.

Its fucking garbage and everyone who likes it is stupid

So what's wrong with it?

its garbage

Explain, dear brainlet.

no

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>no

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>If the hitman is a bumbling idiot, maybe Camilla could still be alive.
I read it as more that if the hitman is a bumbling idiot, he might not have taken enough care to cover up the murder and that's why the police are knocking at Diane's door. Basically she has intense anxiety about being caught and it's coming through in her dream. I like what you said too, though.

>watch le edgy artsy lynch movie
>don't understand it
>watch a video essay on youtube or some watchmojo shit
>explains scene by scene what the director was "implying" with his "imagery"
>parrot this explanation as if it's your own opinion constantly
>worship Lynch like he's some perfect kinographer
>be part of group of pseudo intellectuals that sniff their own farts way too much
>forgive the badly written dialogue and inconsistent mess of scenes in the movie because muh cool symbolism
>EGSDEEE GET LYNCHED ELEMAYO
The Return was a disappointment. Admit it.

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I like that interpretation as well. So many great things involving this film.
When Dan was talking about his dream, he said that he felt scared, but got even more scared when he saw how frightened his friend was at the counter. In reality, Diane was scared while ordering the hit, but became even more scared when she saw Dan looking at her from the counter.
Dan could also see the hobo through the walls, maybe representing Diane's anxiety that he sees through her to the monster inside. Dan dying when he sees the hobo is a way for her to kill off a witness to her crime.

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You are talking about The Return right now? Because rest of his films are very easy to comprehend and people think differently so there are multiple interpretations but those films are cohesive. I don't know, what's supposed to be bad about The Return? It's not like Lynch uses excessive symbolism.

The symbolism isn't the problem. The entire premise is.
>bumbling retard coop is so goofy wow let's keep him like that right before the end
>bad acting
>downright cringy scenes with the FBI
>Diane's whole character
>18 hourlong fucking episodes
>some returning characters like Audrey and her dad are just there as filler and have absolutely very little to no impact on the overall plot
>unsatisfying ending that leaves it open ended as if building up to a sequel
Twin Peaks worked because it had the guise of a traditional detective show with something paranormal always looming in the background. It teased it but never really revealed it all that much. The original was also a product of it's time that's why it worked so well. The Return is self aware and as a result suffers because it's always trying to be this cryptic puzzle and it feels forced. It's not bad it's just a huge disappointment.

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this movie is incredibly scary somehow, I felt some sort of dread creeping in the entire time

You didn't get it, got it.

Go back to plebbit coombrain

I do think it is too long and Diane was a disaster (Lynch just can't let go of his Dern obsession, but I was fine with the ending and I preferred seeing Audrey and Ben to not seeing Audrey and Ben.

Yes. This movie is one of the all-time greats. Lynch managed to beat Bergman (who normally I'd put above Lynch) at the Persona game.

Yeah he definitely is. The ending is brutal and terrifying.

Dougie was kino. If you want le comfy coffee and cherry pie you can watch the original. This is different and it moves the show forwards instead staying in one place. The middle of second season was bad. It's logical that the show changes after 25 years. The soap opera comfy parody wouldn't cut it right now. I think it has some flaws but it's great overall, better than season 2 for sure.

I kinda agree on most of your points
Fan service was always going to be a problem. The returning original characters had to get a mention even though their stories were not really important.
A lot of your problems with the series stem from the fact it was originally going to be much shorter series and some does indeed feel like filler.
overall it was still head and shoulders above most of the crap out there.

I post this in every MD thread

birthmoviesdeath.com/2012/03/04/film-crit-hulk-smash-hulk-vs-the-genius-of-mulholland-drive

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Based, this was quite a nice read when you posted it in my thread.