Time is an offset of space/matter, or a by product of it. You can't travel through time without having to rearrange SM (all of it) itself. That's why time travel (at least backwards) is just not possible. And forward "time travel" is just using speed to "jump out" the clutches of SM, thus in theory no longer under the influence of constant "change" of SM, the object won't change and remain "static" and SM moving "forward" (or more correctly changing) Although I would guess that nothing made of mass is meant to be in this state and most likely decay the moment it achieves so, most likely becoming energy.
If you really want to be precise, time itself doesn't exist, everything that is was or ever be, is was and will. The BB and the theorized entropic death are just stages of a likely an infinite cycle of change. Time is a human metaphysical concept like justice or knowledge itself.
There fore all time travel stories should be regarded as fantasy not science fiction.
>time is a offset of space/matter >or a by product then technically speaking time should change if space/matter does which it does a lot say you mix coffee and whisky this will produce getting drunk as a product(lots of coffee bros) but if you change the percentage of the coffee suddenly the effect is not getting drunk your theory might work if space and matter were constant but they aren't
Jack King
Brainlet TV Guide-tier people categorize anything that features a nonexistent machine or technology as science fiction.
Isaac Torres
It is such a dumb human misconception that time is a free axis like XYZ spacial axis. "k im gonna time travel to 8 hours ago, boop" Well your body, brain, position, and surroundings are all exactly how they were 8 hours ago. You have no idea you "time traveled" then in 8 hours you probably do it over. So after "boop" you go huh, nothing happened.
Easton Edwards
The thing here since SM is interlinked together as user said TT changes everything. My point being you would need a "machine" that can change the arrange in an exact precise manner every quark/space/influence in the exactly reverse in the whole universe itself, every single atom reaction and fold interaction in the exact same manner. That's just not possible energy wise or logistical to have the power to control that, it's not possible.
Hunter Adams
Time isn't empirical since it can't exist outside the phenomena that describes it.
Ayden Collins
>My point being you would need a "machine" that can change the arrange in an exact precise manner every quark/space/influence in the exactly reverse in the whole universe itself, every single atom reaction and fold interaction in the exact same manner. When I was in high school I wrote about some ayyys who had this exact means of time travel.
They had only used it once.
Josiah Foster
Novikov already solved this problem.
Stop trying to excuse your shitty time travel stories, Marvel and Rian Johnson fanboys.
>Time is an offset of space/matter We don't know that, just that they interact closely >Backwards time travel is impossible Quantum tunneling may be faster than time. I'm personally not sure if time is as fast as light. The maths is a bit wonky tho
>Time doesn't exist yet eternalism does What, that's like saying pizza doesn't exist because it's not sliced >Entropic death leads to infinite cycle That's the exact opposite interpretation of heat death
Jeremiah Scott
>My point being you would need a "machine" that can change the arrange in an exact precise manner every quark/space/influence in the exactly reverse in the whole universe itself technically the universe has all those events on record all you have to do is pull the record since doomer time all events that have happened and will happen are already pre determined lets think about this say i invent a time machine and i want to be rich so i go back in time and scream bitcoin at myself then go forward and bam i'm rich according to the universe i was always meant to go back in time etc etc etc with the universe positioning itself to deal with that
You, I like you. However I think time travel in science fiction is less "turning back the clock" and more displacement.
With this (near impossible) method I would think it's really only necessary in localized areas, and even then you've only made a copy of another place in spacetime. This also goes against your idea of a cyclical nature because then in that case the "machine" would be physics working itself out over time, which as you said is more than the energy in the whole universe. Throw in a little entropy and it's a near impossible to comprehend task.
Gonna read up on this Novikov guy, never heard of him, any interesting topics?
As far as we know information is lost or can't be retrieved (try to mathematically find the exact speed and location of anything ever, it's impossible with our maths). Plus look at the chessboard argument- there are many ways to follow the rules and end up with the same board. Try playing the game in reverse and you'll end up with just as many theoretical branches as you would playing forward. I agree with predeterminism but I think you're looking for evidence in the wrong place.
Thomas Morgan
user i can find the exact position and speed of the sun 3 hours ago with google
tldr What google gives you is a vague description of both. If you know the exact, most precise speed, you cannot know location because a measurement of change of location has occured.
Adam Anderson
>coordinates don't exist
Jack Perry
Time travel and alternate realities are the dumbest sci-fi tropes. Shit like that just smacks of shitty writing.
Sebastian Hill
>Yea Forums in charge of reading the first paragraph of a wikipedia article
If you can logically articulate to me how to find the exact precise speed and location of an object not only will I personally climb through this screen and suck your dick, but you'll also get a Nobel prize in physics
Cooper Ramirez
earth moves at 67,000 mph what object user? look at your mailbox, is it moving? can you find it's location? do you know earths exact precise speed? congrats you just found a location and speed
Bentley Jones
Thanks based retard for the laugh
Gonna add this to my /sci/ cringe compilation
Landon Hall
Plausibility of Science Fiction Concepts in order of realistic possibilities according to current science.
1. Human Cloning 2. Genetic "Super" Men 3. Cure for Aging 4. Replicator 5. Martian Colony 6. Generation Ships 7. "serious" Time Dilation 8. FTL Travel 9. Backwards Time Travel 10. Interdimensional Travel
Blake Roberts
I'd put Replicator below Generation Ships and Time Dilation and Cure for Aging above the new Replicator position. Everything else looks top notch and accurate.
Colton Green
Where's artificial intelligence?
Elijah Lewis
Not him but it's not really science fiction anymore.
