Soul vs Soulless

Is there a tv series I watched both it movies one was almost 3 hours

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I think Curry was a better Pennywise, remake is a better movie, though still not great.

WRONG shill

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i don't get this meme why was original georgie a different race to his brother?

what are you trying to convey?

I think the remake has terrible pacing.

This is why Curry was the better Pennywise. He had range.
He could turn on the charm and be cute and funny and gregarious one minute...

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I think he's bothered by the film using more dramatic cinematography during the Georgie boat scene?

You know how they say a picture is worth a thousand words well your silly drawings are worth less than ½ a syllable each. What is it exactly you want us to understand you fucking autist?

>actually taking the time to make these
>being this seething and autistic

The TV series was dogshit
get over it

Then he would drop the act and let the kids have it.
The new Pennywise is just 100% monster all the time.

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Nothing will ever top Pennywise making shitty jokes in the library like running refrigerator. The dancing scene in the 2017 one was funny though.

The shitty green screen they used for Tim Curry in the original sewer scene coupled with the random close ups of his face makes it so much more creepier than the same scene in the new movie.

>a clown with an angry expression
whoa, so scary...whoa...

This looks like a stock photo image

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No blood. No claws. No fangs. No drooling. No lazy eye.
All Curry had to do was frown and yell to be a scarier monster than new-pennywise.

You're not earning your $0.00001 shill.
Work harder, slave!

finally get a chance to use this image

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wow that's really stupid. He was definitely being genuine and not posting shallow bait too. That user is ACTUALLY that stupid. Point at him and laugh

This scene is legitimately terrifying

>"Goddamn weird ass kids fucking while i'm trying to spook em."

>because it’s not scary it’s wayyyyy scarier amirite guys!?!

Is this what we’re doing? Just blatantly lying now to make arguments?

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His range was tim curry dressed like a clown, none of it was even the least bit scary.

That’s just your nostalgia talking.

>both Stephen king properties
>both profit the same man

Lmao wtf is this turbo autism at least when someone calls out a moushill it’s for saying something negative about another property. But this is the same as calling someone a moushill for talking about how the new lion king is more dramatic than the cartoon one

>Cinematic camera choices suck bro like why doesn’t every movie look like my handheld camcorder from 2006?

Doesn't even matter.
Tim Curry made it Kino. Curry makes everything he's in Kino just by gracing it with his presence. Pic highly related.

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Kek

>I can't into subtly, pacing, and mounting tension

kids have zero chemistry and bonding moments in the new movies
they are friends... because they are friends

Confirmed as WB shill

legit one of the creepiest scenes in film history

The hell? The kids had great chemistry. The adults didn’t but I think that was on purpose since they hadn’t seen each other in 27 years.

I like how the shills in this thread have only one response

>HURR MIS NOSTALGIA-TISM

Not a single one of you have offered WHY the new Pennywise is better.

Left is more true to what Pennywise is. Right looks outright demonic and genuinely menacing.

When I was a kid and saw either of them, I'd tell my dad there was a nonce in the sewer.

>>I can't into subtly, pacing, and mounting tension

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This. The new Pennywise is some goofy eyed mother fucker that was never at any point scary

Trashing the original is a standard tactic to get people talking about your new derivative product, especially if the original is a staple of pop culture.

See...
I'll report you to your Indian slave master. He'll cut off your little brown feet if you don't shill harder.

Better acting

Scarier

Better costume and make up design

Torments each character individually with hallucinations that target their fears specifically

I understand that your autism is what makes you so obtuse in ignoring the obvious but anyone who isn’t a crippling sped will down right tell you the new pennywise is scarier and more well rounded in every aspect

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the new one needs eyebrows
and a clownfro

If the creator trashes his original work then I think he’s right in doing so and clinging to the old less scarier less interesting version is just downright stubbornness

He’ll Stephen King even in his cameo trashes how his endings are usually a let down that show tell you something

Is anyone here actually scared by movies? I always figured people were into horror for the filmmaking. Unless you’re a child or a woman there’s no excuse to be scared by a film

>face paint is cracked like its on a painting
>clothes dirty and anachronistic
why is this gay ass shit allowed

>better acting

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>Gets cornered
>Muh ad-hominem

*yawn*
Look it's getting old. Why don't you just share your shill notes that your masters supplied you with?
I really just feel sorry for you at this point.I'll offer you some notes and advice.

because that way it's more SPOOOOOOOOOKY
you can't just have anything be normal that's not SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKY

>pls post bob and vagene

Soul vs Soulless

>Shills ALWAYS respond

Confirmed as shill

>all these boomers insisting their cornball childhood IT is better than the new one
take off the nostalgia goggles and the new movie is objectively better then that dusty old made for TV shit. old IT is creepy and decent, but it’s aged like milk. The new one, particularly the new Pennywise knocked it out of the freakin park.

>ask for reasons
>I give them
>le ad hominem

Wtf lol. Christ this is sad I get that you guys have literal autism but nitpicking something apart because
>muh nostalgia
Is pathetic no one agrees with you. Just because you pissed your pants watching the new one doesn’t make it bad it makes it scary, ya know like a horror movie should be?

What wasn’t scary at all?

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Not even the guy you’re replying to, but pointing out an Ad Hominem isn’t an argument unless that’s the only thing that they argued. Now how about YOU stop using those ad hominem attacks with the Indian shit and either argue against his points, or fuck off back to The pseudo-intellectual shithole that thinks it’s so great for knowing what a logical fallacy is. My post is parked as spam for even trying to mention the website but I think you know quite well what I’m talking about, and I’ll bet you’re very familiar with said site.

>Why yes I do prefer jump scares to “slow burn horror” haha if there is such a thing

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>subtly, pacing, and mounting tension
Just say the 4 magic words, don't be shy.

It’s supposed to be a horror movie? Why make the character not scary? Afraid you’ll get scared?

Wrong

Wow, I never looked at it that way.
Retard.

Funny how neither adaption had the guts to touch that scene with a 10 foot pole.

>when backed into a corner continue with adhominem
>disparage old product
>Then promote new product

Good. Good. You're on your toes!

"IT" wasn't scary!

Go back to /r/movies holy shit. You think you’re smarter than you really are and it shows.

>I’ll bet you’re very familiar with said site

Sorry. I don't subscribe to blacked.com like you friendo

Worst thread on the board right now

There is nothing in the old IT as entertaining as the scenes where Bill Scarsgard’s Pennywise is on screen. His drooling and lazy eye are creepy and hilarious. I love the way he looks and moves. It’s all unsettling and fun to watch. The impending doom looming over the scene when he’s talking to a child, and the movie has the balls to show children getting wrecked. The cast of child actors are also way better in the new one. They talk and act like real kids. The bully kid in the new one also seems like a real terror rather than a generic asshole kid. Old IT aged poorly, unfortunately. The special effects are laughable and the acting is stiff. For what it is, it’s good, but the new one just did everything better with all the advantages it has with modern filmmaking. Neither are particularly scary to watch as an adult so I don’t see why that’s a debate. Most people would probably say Tim Curry was scarier because that’s the one they saw as kids, when they were easy to scare.

>just say those four words.

Ok...

>I fucked your mother

Did your lil' brown pajeet butt get hurt?

Didn’t even know that was a thing but you sure seem to know it more than I do.

>Scarier
>Better costume and make up design
Except he doesn't look like a clown anymore, you sperg. Pennywise was meant to exploit the fear that most people have of actual clowns, but you're missing the mark when you have to add edgy facepaint in order to make him look scarier. Tim Curry managed to be fearsome while wearing simple clown makeup and a bright red nose.

Wrong. Best thread of the board right now.

I actually like that they tried to incorporate a spider and anachronism motif into Pennywise in the new IT movies, and think Bill did pretty good at playing nice. It's a shame the filmmakers used him more for ooga booga shenanigans than Curry Pennywise though.

>NO U!

>*bubbles at lips* GOOGAHGOO I WASNT SCARED *lips quiver* ITS JUST NOT SCAWY!!! IM USED TO
slow burn horror
NOT THIS *2019 pennywise shows up* AHHHHHHHHWAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *user simultaneously shits and pisses his diaper while dropping his pacifier*

Shhhhh shhhhh user it’s okay *pats lil user on head* Ik you’re not afraid of big ole mean pennywise here *sets user down in front of 1990s brick tv that gums like a generator and causes brain damage if you get your head to close* let me put on your verrrrrrry scary slow burn pennywise *anons face is red from crying so hard but manages to think*
>yeah this is really scary look he go from happy face to angry face quick :O

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yeah nothing makes a horror movie more frightening than smashing my suspension of disbelief with ridiculously over the top "YOU SHOULD BE SCARED BY THIS" type visuals

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Christ, in the past argument you’ve brought up blacked.com and Indians. You sure do have a fetish for dark people.

autism

No he goes from a guy in a clown costume to a guy in a scary clown costume in the new ones.

His acting is literal
>happy face
>angry face
If this scares you I can only imagine how wet your pants got watching the new one

that's the point though, he takes the form of a clown to lure in kids. if he were actually scary looking it would defeat the purpose.

despite being 13 percent

>no child sex scene
Both are shit.

Yes, that’s what I’m saying. What a waste of dubs.

Theres a lot of stuff the new movie (the first one) gets right. Pennywise is a little more unnerving in the new ones, while in the old ones his ability to taunt and torture the kids is much better. Particularly, old pennywise fucks with them in broad daylight such that they have to keep their composure or everyone will think they're nuts. In the new ones there's one hint that the adults can't see it and it's just the scene in the bathroom with Bev. It gets worse in the second one.
All in all i think the new pennywise carved a performance for himself that is a respectable interpretation, ultimately ruined by cgi.

Agreed. Sometimes having "less" creates "more"

Based pedo poster

>autism

Is little baby user scared of the horror movies?

Does little baby user want to seem big and string for watching his

slow burn horror

Yes he does! Who’s my big strong user? You are!

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>No he goes from a guy in a clown costume to a guy in a scary clown costume in the new ones.
You realize the novel doesn't even describe the costume as scary, right? He looks like... a clown. And clowns are scary to children without the edgy makeup.

So what you’re saying is

And hear me out

That the old one. Is only scary to... children. And the new one is meant to scare... adults? That’s exactly what you’re saying and you’re saying you’re scared of something meant to scare literal children lmfao we got another one boys these slow burn horror types are actually just big babies

m.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Q94fzwEYQ

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You seem upset

>ITT:

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>No mention of reddit
>Le reddit may may
>Poor reading comprehension

You really are a poo in loo.

>you seem upset I’m not baby I’m big and strong boy!

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Kek

I always made the conclusion on which version Pennywise was 'scary' based on which one would look more terrorizing on the side of a deserted highway in my mind, and Curry's wins by a longshot. The only thing the 2017/2019 films had going for it were the child actors. Pennywise himself was the weakest point.

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The new one is too fucking cartoony (like how he's running after the children and shit) the makeup is trying too hard to look scary (no actual kid in their right mind would walk up and have a casual conversation with a clown looking like that), actor's famous walleyed expression made it more comediac than scary. I do agree that the lighting is better, but that's all they had going for them.

Go see a real horror movie.

New It is canceled!

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Truth. Zoomers and plebecites cannot comprehend.

Agreed. Pennywise is scary because he's a normal looking clown but you find him in a sewer.
New Pennywise looks like a monster that came out of the sewer.

Because the the 2010s Pennywise was influenced by Annabelle designed. Which is old is scary. This pennywise is basically a puppet for the deadlights rather than an avatar.

Do you think that like four or five years after It died, the kids would occasionally be like "okay, well, SOME of the stuff he said was pretty funny.

EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE PRINCE ALBERT IN A CAN?

I don't think the new movies are perfect by any means, but the Tim Curry version was not even slightly scary.

Why does new Pennywise even take the form of a clown?
The book and the original series take place in the 50s so the kids have TV clowns as a frame of reference.
Clowns were already seen as monsters by the late 80s.
Makes no sense.

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Well said. If only they can combine the two together and make a great movie.

You realize just because you didnt like the new thing doesn't then mean you have to voraciously defend the old thing right? I understand why the new IT's wouldnt be your cup of tea, but the TV series IT's were complete dumpster fires. Like, really, REALLY bad, that have aged like a rotting turd on the pavement. Tim curry's performance was the only decent thing about them, and even then skarsgard's IT is more accurate to the book (a monster pretending to be human and not doing a particularly great job)

>Go see a real horror movie

Please for the love of god recommend me one

They didn't establish the town bleeding hypnotic hate. With the Spot and the Doyer Gang. Which would have been great. But better in a miniseries per say.

>yeah dude if I saw a regular guy dressed up as a clown IT WOULD BE WAYYYYY SCARIER than a literal ducking demon looking clown hahahahah amirite?

>they can’t tell that I’m going down coping can they?

Kek

The book thing was very savvy about human nature at that point, it was manipulating the town in hundreds of different ways, in different layers of society. It fed on negative emotions, which is why it was so interested in psychologically destroying it's victims over outright efficient bodycount.

Still pisses me off how hard the missed the point with Pennywises look. He's not supposed to LOOK scary at first glance to the kids, it's how he gets close enough to creep them out with his odor and creepy ass eyes in the first place.

>go see a real horror movie
What, like the tv series? That’s what this thread is about. I don’t think either of them are scary but the new one is far superior.

Because Clowns are LE EPICK SCARY MUNSTERS

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great point t b h

New IT is literally not scary, let alone scarier than the old IT. The movie doesn't take itself seriously enough for any part of it to be scary. The whole thing is full of quips and jokes. Now I'm not saying the new movies are worse than the old ones, but if you think they are scarier you're dense. Also, CGI is anti scarey.

This. What makes it scary is how misplaced it looks in someones backyard or in an empty parking lot. The sight of a brightly costumed Bozo juggling ninepins and dancing about can only be scary when juxtaposed with the familiar and banal.

>Better costume and make up design
>
Nu-Pennywise looks fucking dreadful. I don't care if it's book accurate or not, he looks like shit.

Adults react to both trailers and give their opinions about both clowns
youtube.com/watch?v=qXf0dOE5ZRo&

Kids react to both trailers and give their opinions about both clowns
youtube.com/watch?v=KDRvKzZNvno&

Now stop saying the older one was scarier faggots, literally nobody objectively thinks this.

What does this even mean?

>Clowns were already seen as monsters by the late 80s.
>Makes no sense.
Yes, this is the same reason The Simpsons never made any sense. Why would children watch Krusty the Clown when all children hate all clowns?

Now mind you, I really like the old TV miniseries, It has Curry and two of my waifus from that era (Hussy And O'toole) and I saw it as a kid so it has nosalga.

It is also complete crap. The adult side is even worse.

the new movies, while not great horror films, are actually at least good films, even if the first film is more of a R-rated goonies style adventure, and the 2nd one is more of a drama-comedy of old friends getting together and facing a evil, with the odd going for the epic in a horror film.

The TV series is just bad acting outside of Curry and bad production values.

Pic related is a mockup of Pennywise from the original Cary Fukunaga directed IT. It's a shame he got the boot, it could have been fantastic if they took the source material and ran with it and told all the autistic King fans to fuck themselves.

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As a old fag, you still saw clowns in the 1980s all the time. It wasn't till the mid 1990s that clowns basicly disappeared as a thing.

>Actually linking to the fine bros garbage
Holy fucking yikes

This desu

The original was never thought of a as a good horror film or miniseries outside of Curry. Sometimes they point out the kids were okay in the miniseries, but the adults were awful.

and?

Nobody in the real world cares about your opinions faggot, you stick to calling shit "soul and souless lel" in an indonesian toon forum

I think the new films are rather good.

They are not really scary, but I do not find jumpscares scary. But both are very entertaining and compelling stories.

Fuck all these edgy clown, Pennywise was supposed to be closer to pic related. Its what makes the dark shit he says even spookier when he flips and starts letting the facade go because he doesn't need it anymore. No child in any time period would ever approach 2017 Pennywise, he's a far too obvious threat right off the bat

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>Autistic incapable of understanding when we talk about in-universe vs IRL

>"Pennywise is a clown so as to scare kids who get scared of normal ass clowns"
>"LOL YOUR FEAR IS WHAT LITTLE KIDS ARE SCARED OF FHUEFAUSFA"

This fucking site.

Because Matt Groening is a boomer so he watched clowns on TV as a kid.
It's funny cause Krusty is a modern day PARODY of old TV clowns. His behavior is also inappropriate for children, adding to the humor.

Good luck in your future attempts to understand humor.

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Not enough spooky red lines on his face.

I wasn't being serious, numb nuts.

Dumb fucking nigger gets scared by CGI.

The old pennywise was a made for TV character meant to be able to actually scare children. This results in him having more moments with the demeanor of a clown to contrast with his demonic moments to make them highlighted more.

The new pennywise is nostalgiabait in a shitty remake meant to draw in nostalgiabait grubbing 90's kids and boomers who read the books.

Look at this dumb nigger. Ooh red lines on face scary (maybe blood?) and sharp tooth. Very spooky monster.

Why focus on Pennywise. Curry as Pennywise is the only good thing in the entire 1990s version. the 1990s version only has one scene without pennywise that is good (Stan head scene)

It would be. You saw new Pennywise you'd think edgy hipster cosplay. Film was chockfull of jumpscares and I was bracing throughout all of it expecting the inevitable moment the film would 'get' me, but it never did. The jumpscare is the cheapest horror resource and yet it did nothing and it is not at all hard to make me jump.

It makes sense for Georgie to approach and talk to old Pennywise because he's not immediately horrifying. Not so for the new one who was made with edgy in mind.

I remember reading about this. It would have been kino.

Kill yourself you disabled faggot. Goddamn down syndrome mongrel.

DUMB NIGGER

Curry Pennywise was great, but the rest of that miniseries was complete shit.

>Miniseries was so pants shittingly for a kid in those days that it literally made clowns universally feared and it's legacy kept strong for 28 years resulting in a new film being made.
>LEL it was bad!!

It's like the faggy zoomer kid that doesn't understand how or why Halloween is relevant to horror or finds The Exorcist funny.

Loud sounds scare me. Loud BOOM sound great horror.

NIGGER

Even back then it wasn't thought of as that scary, it was mostly noted for shitty acting for the adults and a good pennywise.

In the book it was seen as a clown decades before the kids were even born

Looks cringy.

I like the new movies. I just think the miniseries was better. Unlike Yea Forums with literally anything, I enjoyed both.

Nobody in the real world cares about the retarded fake reaction videos the fine bros make. Other than your sorry ass apparently.

Old thing good, new thing bad

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>Cary Fukunaga
The fucking street fighter guy was gonna direct IT?

Other then pennywise what made the miniseries better?

Or is it solely the pennywise that made it better?

>I-I’m not a baby I’m grown I-I-I just don’t like loud noises cause it triggers my autism I prefer

slow burn horror

>because it’s actually really scary! You have to be really smart to get scared about nothing! Have you ever seen the witch! Didn’t it totally scare you when nothing happened! What about the babadookie? Didn’t it scare you when he walked slowly! I’m not a scardy cat baby I’m a big boy

Yeah get those niggers out of your system they don’t like you saying that on Reddit

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I WAS back then bitch. Meme coked out critic's opinions are meaningless. Audiences carried that shit with them for 28 years and that is the only reason the new films were made.

>Looks cringy

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>the new ones are creepy
i’ve watched creepier porn user that shit was weak af

I am old enough to be a kid back then, it wasn't viewed as super scary. I was 11 when it came out.

the restaurant scene was better

For me the miniseries as an old TV aesthetic. It's less polished, the angles are natural, the actors might not have been the best but they looked like real people and not James McAvoy. It just felt 'real-er', so to speak. New one is pretty good but it's instantly another world you're far removed from. It's a modern movie and it couldn't have been done in any other way, I just prefer the more natural aesthetic of the first one.

WRONG!

The kids were PERFECT and made the 1st a cut classic of this gen.

The 2nd dropped the ball.
Used wayyyyyyyyyyy more CGI that the 1st and relationships had no building

I didn't even imply anyone thought it was good. But the It miniseries is a thing that people know.

>Presenting.... Tim Burton's IT

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The restaurant scene in the new one was pure cringe to me from the moment the cookies start to burst. I really felt embarrassed. Anyone else?

>the angles are natural
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

>It does le goblin dance
> "cut" classic
Yeah ok.

Fair enough on the naturalistic angle.

Here is webm for a genuine and non-meme answer.

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They're not edgy, post-modern, contrarian meme angles made deliberately to go against the rulebook like le shaky cam was. They just were. Do you need me to hold your hand to go change your maxipad user?

All this agenda kikery really rots zoomers brains huh.

yes, pretty much every cgi monster was either laughable or cringe, didn't mind the headspider, that was ok

See that? Beautiful. The jump scare is not for us, but for the character to showcase his state of mind. His acting is enough to convey what he's going through, no need for 1000 cuts and close ups of his sweaty face and long-winded periods of soundtrack-less silence to build up for a scare.

Oh man, Paul fucking Bunyan. What's worse is the day after I read an article saying it was literally "toxic masculinity" coming after poor Richie since he's a fag in this version.

Oh yes, do explain to me what makes a camera angle edgy. The new movies didn't use angles that were particularly crazy.

Pennywise...
Pennywise...
Oh god my memory is coming back, fucking hell it's been such a long time. There was a flash animation with Pennywise and Burger King falling in love, having gay sex, ending with Pennywise giving birth to Chuck Norris.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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Natural angles are medium shots, common on TV or say, a ford western. While say, a dutch angle or a crane shot does not.

youtu.be/-6Ima4k_hRg

or a example in the miniseries, barring a shot showing the monster it, it a a medium shot.

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W-what?

lol, for me its the fucking naked granny monster, completely ruined what was a kinda creepy scene, I literally laughed out loud

I thought the opposite. Thought Chapter Two was too rushed with long, filler, extended scenes. Reminded me of the shitty Matrix Revolutions. The miniseries even did the flashbacks right. Bev was a central adult character in the 90s version too and was way more based than Chastain. Sure did miss the slingshot in the remake too.

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I know what those are; I've just never heard the term "natural angles."

peak mid-2000s ytmnd internet culture

Or a example of a unnatural shot, is this scene from it, were natural shots of the kids is mixed in with a Dolly zoom and other unnatural shots.

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no you thought the same, read what that user posted again

Natural angles are sometimes called a "Eye Level Shot". For example, this shot is almost all eye level, which is naturalistic, but does not unnerve audiences.

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I didn't like how in this new version there was no rhyme or reason as to why they could hurt Pennywise. Literally anyone could pick up a piece of rebar and kill It then. They tried to save it at the last moment with 'It kills monsters if you believe it does' but they screwed it up by removing the silver and and slingshot. The physical strength of 7 10 year olds wielding make-shift weapons was enough to subdue this cosmic horror.

user giving a masterclass.

That term I'm familiar with.

The silver and slingshot only works in the book and miniseries since it set in the 1950s and one of the kids (richie I think) saw a were-wolf movie, so they figure it will hurt it since that how movie monsters are hurt.

The move to the 1980s kinda removed the whole werewolf thing, An American Werewolf in London was too old for the kids to see.

>sayonara niggers

Here is the same scene in the 2017 movie. A lot less eye level shots.

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and funny enough, my fave shot in that is the one were you looking right in mikes eyes with the hands trying to grab him.

I grew up in the 90's and I knew about silver as a kid. There was really no need to remove it. These nostalgia films are made on the false premise that kids from a decade won't be exposed to works from previous decades which is completely false.

they both suck, read a book faggot

Sure, I just don't really get why anyone would be opposed to shots like that. Unless that user I responded to before was born before Citizen Kane, I don't know why they would care.

See that's what I'm talking about. It's bullshit that a 12 year old can shank Pennywise just like that. Completely removes Pennywise's threat.

Didn't say I was opposed. I said because of the way the older one was shot it came across as more 'real' to me, which I enjoyed more. The new one automatically removes that sense of reality because it needed to be more modern and polished.

Tim Curry Pennywise looked and acted like a clown to lure in children. Skarsgard Pennywise looks like a scary clown demon halloween costume and acts like an autistic psychopath, no child would go within ten miles of him and he would starve to death.

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I don't really like the new movie, but I don't think you get it, its not because it was silver that it hurt him its because they believe it will, same when he shoots it with the boltgun that wasn't loaded, he believed it was, that was enough

I do not mind the shots at all, though I did notice that for whatever reason, chapter 1 is more at mouth level then eye level, which is a bit odd even on normal shots.

The user that said the miniseries was more naturalistic with it shots and actors is a valid way of looking at it, even if I personally did not mind the shots for the most part. the bad dolly zooms in the first one annoyed me.

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Ah, my bad. To each their own.

Holy shit! That was a classic!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rzI8GRH3j_U

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you could always just idk
get a gun a gat pennywise
this is america after all hell you could probably get some grenades too

But again, there is no logic behind that. There is nothing that tells this kids or should lead them to believe that believing will hurt It. They just seem to automatically know. I dunno.

>ROWLS
something something trained to read stephen king

No problem. I enjoyed both and the book so it's a win win for me anyhow, I'm just having fun here (and a little cringe from a few posters)

I get what you mean now. I can also agree on the dolly zooms.

I think some El Clowno tried that 'dress up as a clown for creepy clout' in Mexico and the motherfuckers lynched him lol
No wonder Pennywise had to live in Derry.

I will say that while the movie actors are MUCH better actors, the miniseries does have charm since most of them were more like the people you might find as 40 year olds.

But Hussy and O'Toole of course I find super hot. Off to find the one shot in the 2017 movie i completely hated.

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Is it just me, or is nu-Pennywise really really fuckable? Like, "I'd pound this clown's ass and cum balls deep" fuckable. Is this on purpose?

Come here Georgie.

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it kinda works, they truely belive a gun shot into its head will kill or at least hurt it, its not much of a streach to believe that, the kid didn't realize it wasn't loaded, but it worked just as well as when it was, because they truly believed a gun shot into its head would at least hurt it, I would too given the circumstances, of course in the book their is a lot more about the bond between them, which is basically the shine and gets stronger when they are together, maturin helps, etc.

Ah yes, memories.
Isn't this the same guy who made Ultimate Orgy?

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Damn I completely forgot they shafted Bill's wife out of her story relevance. I'm debating if that's better or worse.

Considering part 2 is already around 3 hours, most likely for the best.

Yeah, that and the shots seem too low in the kids scenes, I could almost understand when they are talking to adults, but the camera needs to be raised about a foot in most of the shots in chapter 1.

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IT is the anti-social basement dweller demon of the King universe.
IT isn't scary because he's a demon looking clown. IT's scary because he's mentally unbalanced wannabe know-it-all that you couldn't trust would turn in a winning lottery ticket, who also has superpowers.
>in dark place
>a dirty clown
>with a giant head
>unnatural eyes
>razor teeth
>and crazy voice
>is running at me
>this is clearly a fight of flight situation
>or
>im walking in afternoon
>by self
>look down frozen river
>huh
>clown waving at me
>and he's holding balloons
>what
>the balloons are floating against the wind
>blink
>did this motherfucker just get closer?
>cold as fuck out
>cold...
>can't see clowns breath
>he's not wearing winter clothes
>swear this fucker got closer
>while i was thinking
>is there a circus in town
>probably too cold for circus
>closer again
>nope
>fuck this
>fuck the circus

At this point this shit has been pointed out to them ten different times in ten different ways. If they still don't get why 2017 and '19 IT (the character) is garbage from a design standpoint now, they never will

At least they acknowledge in part 2 in the little girl scene. And not only they recognized the problem with the design but pennywise used it in canon for his favor.

The miniseries has a better it, but the rest of it was awful.

The movies had a jumpscare pennywise, but otherwise was much better in all other regards.

True. IT parts one and two would have been so much better if King had gotten the greenbacks out of his eyes long enough to put his foot down and demand they unfuck his clown. Even a blind man could tell Skarsgards IT is not the one from the book, not by a fucking country mile. He's not nearly cunning enough.

It is my firm belief that King always intedddahfse

King even in It was very clear on his view on movie adaptations in the book "it". It doesn't change the book on the shelf.

Skarsgards it worked. It might not be what you wanted but it did work.

yea apart from his unreasoning hatred of the shinning, generally SK doesn't give a fuck how adaptations work out, he gets to larp in his own universe thats enough for him

is that gacy?

Yeah, I never understood his hate for that film, as it a good film. Actually going to go see Dr. sleep when it comes out, just to see how good or bad it is.

I am heading to bed, so here is a shot of one of my waifus being abused. Really need to redo all the miniseries webms at some point.

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he also hates maximum overdrive

didn't he direct that?

Patrician tier waifus, user

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>filming kids fucking
even if it's IMPLIED like a love scene in an Old Hollywood film, it's still not gonna happen

honestly, if HBO had Cary make a miniseries, he could probably just show the kids all kissing each other

I watched a many a bad movie for her user. And thanks.

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>intedddahfse

Did he have a stroke?

and now I will dream of Hussy and O'toole.

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He just laughs at her and leaves. It's all one big joke to him and he doesn't even give a fuck.
Tim Curry IT is so much more callous and evil. So effective.

Skarsgtard IT just comes off as an autistic idiotic video game monster.

The movie script had a scene inspired by that in a early version (were she kisses each to calm them down) but it was dropped both for time and how hard it would be to get the idea across in film.

"Soulless" sounds like what you want from a monster in a horror movie

nope.

I saw the miniseries again last week for the first time in probably twenty years, and I was genuinely surprised how well it held up. I wouldn't say it's a good film, really, but it better captured the tone of the book, by threading thr adult and kid parts together.

Also, as for shots, it was directed by Tommy Lee Wallace, who worked with Carpenter, directed Halloween III, and has a few of those nice, Carpenter-esque panaglide, steady shots. The new films--while I like them, largely--are framed differently, especially the mess of the final act of part 2.

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>to get the idea across in film
probably would've pissed off the blue checkmarks

Tim curry as IT made me really enjoy the first two movies save for the ending of the 2nd. Shit was based

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that works

>he goes to spook some kids
>sees them fucking
>goes to prison because fbi
kek

Check and mate Pennywise.

WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

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Fuck the original still creeps me out. Watched the new one last weekend and i dont remember a scary moment honestly

This guy knows whats up. First was great second was fucking shit

They're both good. Curry is creepier.

this

A stroke of pure genius

They didn't know any of that shit would hurt IT until Bev stabbed it in the face. They tried something out of desperation to save their friends and it worked. Once they realized that they put it all together.

She's so fucking hot in that scene where she's in her office with Tom before they meet the Japanese investors.

In the purple dress?

>He actually gets scared by movies

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Didn't the book say he resembled Ronald McDonald the McDonalds clown?

What does the new pennywise spider look like?

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>Where's my bone chilling slow burn

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Bill and Ben were definitely better in the original

>"I mean, shit man, I was just down in the sewers trying to scare some kids and now they're fucking! Goddamn kids just fucking right there in front of me, Pennywise. World's gone to shit."

DUUUDE new Pennywise was SCARY when he was dancing like in FORTNITE!

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IT was a pussy I would had knocked that clown out if I was in the movie

>upon release of new it, Yea Forums and Yea Forums reasonably hyped about new clown and still cheer when new movies are released
>soul vs soulless
Yea Forums you fucking kikes, I hate you so much

the original movie uses juxtaposition to create a very disturbing atmosphere. its not outright "scary" its off putting and weird, which makes you uncomfortable. the new one is just a run of the mill horror movie where everything is scary all the time. the new one obviously has way better effects though, and both of the movies are cheesy by default since a clown is the bad guy. for me personally the original just scared the shit out of me when I was a kid, I didn't think clowns were supposed to have fangs and demon eyes.

>old IT
Actually create atmosphere and creepy monster that only appear sparingly

>nu IT
OOGABOOGABOOGA!!!

Most concise explanation. I agree with this. Well said.

>Why does new Pennywise even take the form of a clown?

Pennywise works with what you're afraid of. There's a scene in the book where
he abducts a kid who is fucked in the head and does not seem to have any major fears to exploit so he's kind of formless and says to the kid "Hello and goodbye." and knocks him out.

My take was the clown form is like a default composite fear he enjoys taking. Lots of people are scared of clowns.

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>wow this looks weird and surreal to us let's roll with it
And that was that.

The real one really is fucking terrible. They are trying too hard to make him look ''scary,'' while also having a goofy looking actor and giving the clown goofy buck teeth.
It looks like a goofy bucktooth nerd trying to look like Joker, like one of those fedora autists who dress up as Joker and take pictures of themselves.

The Tim Curry clown is just a clown. He takes the form of a clown because he is trying to attract kids, and he does look like a pretty normal clown outside of his giant forehead. It's a normal clown, but something is off about him. He even looks friendly.

I kind of agree halfway but not with the part where clowns aren't supposed to be scary.
I don't think Pennywise is supposed to be a McFarlane Toys clown all the time but King didn't pick a clown because people DON'T find clowns scary.
It's supposed to be sort of "wtf is going on am I dreaming?" until the shoe drops and it's time to shit your pants.

How big is Pennywise's cock? Does the book say?

I think it fits because it's a odd sight that makes you feel uneasy but not immediately run away like if was Jason or Freddy Kruger

I would say take whatever you consider to be the biggest non-scary cock and add about six inches, it depends on the person he's after.

honestly this was one of the only parts of the movie I remembered