Well shit

Well shit.

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he made the best Star Wars movie so good

Does Rian have blackmail on Kathleen Kennedy or something? Why is he in charge of a billion dollar franchise despite being a nobody?

I haven't gone to the movies in years

Fucking based. Ruin it Rian, destroy it. I believe in you.

MAH DEEEEEEEEEEEK

Yeah I'll believe it when we actually see casting announcements, release dates, or any news about pre-production.

Never going to happen. This shit will fade away as soon as Episode IX releeases. Saying that they canned it now would be like admitting The Last Jedi was bad right when the new movie is coming out.

It's gotten to the point that I read "Deal with it" as "Please discard my opinion immediately"

>SO DEAL WITH IT
Yeah, I will. By not watching his shit flicks.

Good. It's gonna be a fun trainwreck, at this point Star Wars is just a sick experiment to see how worse things can possibly get.

I very specifically asked for this

Of course they were going to double down on the thing that upset people, that's how the world works now.

Why do they always double-down so hard

Nooooo Disney don't spend another $750 million letting Rian Johnson make kino you evil mousketeers will surely recoup billions from that investment reeee

Lucasfilm is going to go bankrupt and George will buy it back for pennies

Haha. Owned them xD

No he's not and this article is old as fuck.

i mean...
who gives a fuck about star wars after the Force Awakening? its clearly being made just to sell toys and more market pieces, nothing more.

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>Reverse psychology article designed to impact the mouse’s bank balance
Based.

I think people will be over Star Wars after the next one

Film industry has basically become a money laundering operation.

Bold move, Cotton! Let's see how this plays out.

>idiot shill has no idea how film industry profits work
wow what a surprise

> And when he was asked Rian Johnson rose to the mic, and glanced out to the crowd as a if a smallish pixie came down and sat atop his shoulder and whispered into his ear 'Burn it all Down, Daddie!'.

NOOOO you have to watch it or else you're a contrarian incel permavirgin who hates minorities!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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powerful.

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based neet dabbing on shlomos bottom line

enjoy losing even more money

I want to thank the new trilogy for making me retroactively feel disgust about star wars and allowing me to binge watch the entire star trek series.

Star trek is so fucking based. Haven't seen STD, never going too.

>is such an anti-draw that he took away a billion from disney and made star wars not print money for once
>the only people that like his shitty movie are the kind of dudes that still post tvtropes entries

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The Smnoke quadrilogy based on progressive alien races who are relevant to him, when!?

Honestly he might be able to make a good original story, the problem with the last jedi is that he was building off of someone else's and for whatever reason he passive aggressively ruined anything the previous movie tried to build as well as the original movies.

Look at it this way guys, at least this means we get more kino Rian SW train-wrecks and their fallouts for the next ten years.

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DING DONG BANU

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So what was the conflict between Rose and Finn during that worthless Canto Bight sequence? She preached and he nodded and agreed...

Poe should have gone on an adventure, and Finn should have stayed behind on the ship, now alone and having to deal with a Resistance that doesn't really trust him, being an ex-Stormtrooper and all. That would have been so much more dramatic, and Holdo wouldn't have seemed like a complete bitch, being a cunt to her best pilot for no reason.

>Knives Out has been so successful and praised that we have unfortunately had to delay Rian's Star Wars trilogy while he works on a sequel to the popular detective mystery film
How do you react?

You should, because twelve year olds have no place in journalism. Reject also "experts say/warn."

If a woman is angry or passionate when talking to a man, then it's a conflict.
If the man argues, then it's an abusive conflict.

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Yeah, he made Star Wars movies so bad but so bad that the original trilogy now looks better!

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I actually trust he could probably do better unshackled from JJ's mess, which was half of the problem with TLJ. Brick and Looper were kind of interesting. I don't expect anything great though.

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I dealt with it... by not buying a single Star Wars product for the past 4 years and not paying for anything Star Wars.
Feels good having excess money to spend.

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It's the new "and that's a good thing".

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This still fucking boggles me. How do you manage to not create conflict between
>a diehard Rebelistance member and someone who is only out to protect muh Rey
>the dude who shot the other dude’s friend just days ago
>the experienced normal person and the ex-child soldier

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Suits me fine, there's nothing left to salvage in this shitshow anyway. Besides, watching Rian meltdown on social media has been far more entertaining than any of the sequels or spinoffs.

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>Rian Trilogy
>D&D Trilogy
>Lord & Miller Trilogy
I'm so glad the nerds are in charge now! Bazinga!

Imagine spending millions of dollars just to get back at some weirdos online ?

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Yeah, I know. I don't really care if Rian gets his trilogy or not, either way it'll just create more hilarious drama online.

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He's instilling low expectations for the franchise in the cultural ethos. This is a huge negative for Disney though not a total loss.

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Why does the entire media shill so hard for this guy? These articles are so petty and childish just like Rian's tweets, do journalists see themselves in him or something?

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Journalists just hate you. They pretty much consider themselves an elevated class who's right it is to tell you what to think.

i will be boycotting disney even harder

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Does it matter? Left wing media is dead and irrelevant anyhow.

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yawn

>I couldn't be bothered to write interesting dialogue so i just inserted a woman
bravo Rian, powerful

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They love anything that wh*te m*les hate.

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Question, how did this card game work?

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> , SO DEAL WIT IT

SEEEEEEEEEEETHING LMAO

EVERYONE HATES YOUR ASS RIAN

The man has an 13" cock and knows how to use it. Don't blame him for wanted to take advantage of it.

Rian didn't come up with the headline, maybe the article writer did, since it'd sound like him.

See

So his cock is bigger than his height?

nuke the jews

based

the EU would have developed an actual full-fledged card game for this, they could have even created an in-universe way to play the game where it didn't matter that the cards were always visible. There would have been fans that actually played that card game.
Nu-Wars doesn't even care.

Johnson spends more time thinking about how to subvert the expectations of his audience rather than if he even should. He's the antithesis of a competent writer and is one of the more notable figures in the movement of basedbeans like Anthony Burch getting a platform for their quippy, pop-culture reference-filled trash.

ITS OK RIAN FEELS THE SAME WAY

EVERYONE SHAT ON HIM MERCILESSLY FOR TLJ
HE'S TRIGGERED SO HARD HE HAS TO PREEMPT EVERYTHING SAYING "UMAD" LMAO

BARELY ANYONE GAVE JJ SHIT FOR TFA

Because TLJ was a success and Kathleen liked Looper?

Maybe you're a faggot for crying about TLJ in the first place?

Damn, I guess Rian won after all. Henceforth, no one will ever remember how one roundfaced idiot sunk a $4bn franchise

>the EU would have developed an actual full-fledged card game for this, they could have even created an in-universe way to play the game where it didn't matter that the cards were always visible. There would have been fans that actually played that card game.
>Nu-Wars doesn't even care.

The EU would have consulted some gaming industry professionals, or at least someone who was familiar with a few of the most popular casino card games.

The Nu-Wars staffer who came up with this probably thinks gambling is for Chads and doesn't know anything beyond "they have cards in their hands and lay them on the table while smiling smugly".

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F4ntastic was unfairly trashed. It was perfectly acceptable with some cool moments, it just wasn't standard capeshit.
Further, considering they stole the film from the director, he should be given props

Nah you're not Rian. I'll believe it when the films actually come out in cinemas (which will never happen).

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But...Mike was literally pro-diversity in Star Wars? Did they even watch it?

MAYBE TLJ WAS A PIECE OF SHIT

BOTH FOR ITS POLITICS AND FOR LITERALLY EVERY OTHER REASON IT GETS RIGHTFULLY SHIT ON LMAO

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>David Harris (Razor)

but this is good, he'll finally kill the franchise

>tfw used to play pazaak with my friends all the time

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It fell apart when it became an actual Fantastic 4 movie at the end.

>imagine having such luxury in life where you boycot a Star Wars flick made as a Disney Entertainment product and thinking this matters to anyone, anywhere.

It's not moving forward.

They just haven't announced it's canceled because it would show the backlash of TLJ was had consequences. Not even getting into politics, it would just point out what dire straights the franchise is in, and solely because of their own misstep. Instead of cannibalizing their Marvel empire by appealing to children like the franchise had for 40+ years, they tried to make Star Wars the franchise for older fans, something the millennials could talk about on twitter. Each movie would have meta themes and artsy directors, but they bet wrong, and leaned to hard in to and didn't understand that Star Wars is a children's franchise and can't sustain heavy themes outside of soap opera cliches.

But I digress, cancelling 3 movies in one go at what could be one the lowest points in the franchise's history would show they had had fucked up. It would devalue the franchise. So for the time being, they are letting things rock until Episode 9, in which you'll quietly see a lot of their future plans canned.

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That's what makes it funny, RLM should get criticized but the people taking shots at them for their Plinkett TLJ review really don't know what they're talking about.

>deal with it
I just realized that these cocksucker """journalists""" use their platform to passive-aggressively get back at people for booty blasting them on social media. It's like if I got blown the fuck out in a thread here and then ran to my job at a magazine or newspaper and wrote an article about how you're a retarded manbabby for not hסlding my opinion. "Deal with it" was literally a coping meme here that you'd throw out if someone was owning your ass or if you just didn't feel like engaging with them.

I don't know how I never made this connection, it's so obvious. I guess I always just assumed when people wrote shit like this, it was more targeted and insidious, some kind of would-be propaganda at worst and blatant shilling at best. But it's just a child throwing a petulant temper-tantrum.

It's literally the difference between Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter.
LotR: Tolkien invents several proper, functioning languages for the various races to tell their histories. Goes further and writes a fucking history text book to give an overlay of the world his story takes place in.
Rowling: Invents a sport where the game ends when a single player on the team catches a ping pong ball, thus winning the game for that player's team 99% of the time. Names the werewolf character in her story "Werewolf Moon Dog"

>RLM should get criticized
We get it, you're a prequelfag still butthurt over the Plinkett reviews, E;R.

Sure. But even then, it was only as bad as any other capeshit film.

Says the RLM shill angry that people realized that TFA is bad.

are we still memeing that TLJ had anything to do with "politics" still?

>everyone is a shill
You brought RLM up mentioned that they bootyblast you, dumb faggot.

no you fucking incel you must buy

>TFA is bad
4th highest grossing film of all time, fren ;)

sorry incels you aren't allowed to dislike things anymore, get over it

thats an old antisemitic canard

UMM ITS #HERTURN TO LEAD, FLYBOY

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politics in the FILM bud. There are none. There is no Drumpf character, just like you were wrong about Rogue One or Solo having a Drumpf alien, there is literally no political message in TLJ either or in TFA.

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You know, I don't even particularly hate TLJ, it's just not very good and barely a Star Wars film. Rian's story really does nothing for the franchise or the sequel trilogy, it's just a whole bunch of nothing.

"FORCE IS FEMALE" IS THE OVERARCHING POLITICS IN NU-WARS TARDO

KATHLEEN WAS A MISTAKE

GEORGE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR HIRING HER IN THE FIRST PLACE

You got mad when it got suggested that RLM should be criticized, cultist.

>Luke literally dies
>"it's a whole bunch of nothing and nothing happened"

>third weekend
Was he trying to make a joke or just coping really weirdly

I can easily reply to a thread and it won't make a difference otherwise, but I can simply not watch a film and call it shit, with all the pissing difference to the mouse; yeah, I am thinking life is good!

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Most people got over Star Wars after TFA.

You need to calm down, the narrative doesn't have any politics in it. "there is a female character" is all you got? That's sad, all this energy over what most don't even consider a political issue unless you are a bootyblasted incel mad that women are in fiction.

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I'm not mad? But usually people like you get irrationally mad at some Youtube movie review channel because they don't say nice things about your meme prequel films. You're likely a zoomer who "grew up with the prequels" and weren't born during the absolutely massive hate train that barreled through the late 90s to early 00s over these objectively awful entries.

Learn to cope, RLM weren't wrong.

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>imagine putting together a list of literal who webzines like this

>I'm not mad?

Sure doesn't look like it, cultist!

It can be either

DEAL WITH IT NERDS

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA

Reminder: The Force Is Female

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The prequels are garbage and no amount of alternative history shilling will change that.

I'll bite though, what stupid thing should a fat retard, literal who from Milwaukee get criticized for in your book?

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that tagline really seems to have rustled your jimmies, huh?

>So deal with it
Okay guess I won't watch it.

>we're all toxic

based

>"there is a female character"
THIS IS THE BIGGEST STRAWMAN BRAINLET COPE LMAO

WHAT DOES THE FEMALE CHARACTER DO

IS THE FEMALE CHARACTER THE LEAD OF A PREVIOUSLY MALE LEAD FRANCHISE
DO WE NEED MORE FEMALE LEADERSHIP IN THE WORLD REPLACING MALE LEADERSHIP?

WHY YES, WE DO! *SIPS TOFU LATTE* *GETS PORG TATTOO* #HERTURN! #TIMESUP PATRIARCHY!

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The damage control and shitstorm surrounding TLJ was glorious.

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so it really just bothers you that a fictional character is a female? Okay. That's clearly a rational position to hold.

>Luke had no role in TFA or the resistance
>now we're back to where we started in the third film
If you removed him completely, what changes?

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Don't worry it'll all be explained in the Snooke side movie and Disney+ limited run animated series.

He's right though. This fandom is one of the worst and only second to Homestuck and MLP.

Well, Hollywood is just rich kids from wealthy families playing director. It's difficult to make good art when you've had every door open for you and people kissing your ass your entire life.

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If they were TLJ wouldn't have been successful. It underperformed buy it still made plenty of money and it was carried 100% by people's hype for SW.

The entire point of TFA is the map to Luke Skywalker because of his legend status as a beacon for the Resistance, which then amounts to nothing when Rey meets her hero and he's a pissbaby faggot, who redeems himself at the end by facing his own personal fears in regards to his bloodline and becomes one with the Force.

The entire trilogy has been about Luke and Kylo. I'm not sure what else you want for Luke to do. Luke is arguably even the main character of TLJ, since he has the best character arc of the film.

DO YOU COMPREHEND WORDS

OKAY JUST ASKING

OOF!

>If you removed him completely, what changes?
We could've seen more of that casino subplot for starters

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>disneyplus exclusive now
lel

>DO YOU COMPREHEND WORDS
Yes? You're really angry that a fictional protagonist is a woman.

NO MORON, GO READ IT AGAIN

ALSO KNOW THAT IT WILL NEVER BE HER TURN TO LEAD
AND THE PATRIARCHY WONT BE SMASHED :^)

I figured TLJ's problems were due to studio interference.
I mean, Looper isn't a stellar movie but it's competent enough. TLJ just fucking sucks, and I somewhat enjoyed TFA

>go read again
yeah, you don't like women in lead roles. I got it.

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The Last jedi was fantastic

Sonic wasn't viewed because anyone was excited for it though. I think it's much more damning that the Joker teaser got almost twice the views Star Wars did.

It's the only memorable movie I even care to rewatch. Solo and Rogue One were fucking abysmal and TFA was forgettable. I unironically think it's as good as Jedi.

the last film I saw in theatres was the force awakens

Name 1 good aspect of it.

CLOSER, ALMOST THERE

LEAD REPLACEMENT ROLES IN WHICH MOVIES, PRE ESTABLISHED MALE LEAD FRANCHISES?

DID YOU LIKE GHOBUSTERS (2016)?
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT DRUMPF WINNING AGAIN IN 2020 :^)

They still control everything. There's just less of it.

This is where if anyone says even lukewarm praise for a movie they like, they are somehow wrong...yeah?

I'm not that user, but the Luke/Rey scenes are pretty great and there should have been more of those moments. Ghost Yoda was also a nice touch that made me think of the themes in the OT. I never felt that with TFA.

>they are still a boogeyman because I said so

imagine all of a sudden millions join forces to fuck disney over.
would be great.

Yeah, let's not put that energy into shit that matters like renewable energy, conservation or feeding the poor...

Let's stick it to a multi-gorbillion dollar distribution company because they made a movie we didn't like!

Yes. YESSSSSS KEEP GIVING HIM MONEY AHHAHAHAHAHAH

You are totally winning Mouse. By losing! Losing is winning! HAHAHAHAHHA

FUCKING KEK

Good! Pile all that mouse money sky high and set it on fire.

wtf is "lead replacement"? Rey wasn't digitally inserted in the original trilogy you fucking sperg. Who gives a shit what the sex of the character even is? The problem is that she's poorly written to a degree, not that she's a woman.

imagine being such a friendless loser you don't even know how to write a story about two friends on an adventure

>expect disney to scrap RJ trilogy after the fan failure and backlash to TLJ
>Rian Johnson: S U B V E R T E D, bitch

This whole board can relate then?

Do you really think their character test is a valid test? It's a really shallow one.
What about when they placed blame on Bill Murray for Ghostbusters 2016 in the Plinkett review? Even though people whined about Ghostbusters 2 (this also happened a lot during the time Ghostbusters 2016 was hyped up) and at one point the Ghostbusters 3 project was going to have the screenwriters to the Jack Black film Year One?
How about the Plinkett TFA review where nearly 50% of it was complaining about the prequels/Lucas instead of reviewing TFA?
What about when Mike was doing a jab at fan obsessions with where Metropolis is or whatever while he's a big Star Trek nerd?

And before you go "but Plinkett is supposed to be a joke character" yeah, people defend CinemaSins that way, too.

RLM can be great but they can be full of shit sometimes.

>fan failure and backlash to TLJ

>Yeah, let's not put that energy into shit that matters like renewable energy, conservation or feeding the poor...

Okay, then why doesn't Disney do that?

>Enemy of the Jedi
>Enemy of the Resistence/Republic
>Corrupting the guy she wants to redeem
Who Snoke is should be interesting to Rey. She comes off as a complete idiot by not wanting to know a thing about her enemy.

all of those things are secondary, i want to fuck disney in the ass.

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ITS HER TURN TO LEAD YOU SEXIST SHITLORD!

SUCCESSFUL MALE LEAD FRANCHISES (AKA THE PATRIARCHY)
MUST BE SMASHED AND THEIR TOXIC MALE LEADERSHIP SUPPLANTED STRONG WOMEN, OKAY?

HAVE A GANDER HERE, THATS A LITTLE SOMETHING CALLED POLITICS DRUMPF 2020 E Z BTW, JUST FYI :^)

How do you fuck up a villain like Dr. Doom?

Avellone > Johnson

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> Admiral Womens' Studies.

the last film I saw in theaters was Elysium
so you see why I stopped going

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You are patrician
The entirety of Luke, Kylo and Rey
The visuals
the soundtrack
the mise en scene
the pathos and logos
the pottery

They're always too afraid to have a faceless main villain who's in a mask all the time.
They should really look up noh techniques

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Just the fact that you are reposting assblasted twitter accounts and their shitty meme polls is cringe

>Do you really think their character test is a valid test?
Yes, since I'm not an underage with poor reasoning skills? I hate to burst your bubble but none of the prequel characters have any real character beats or wants/desires/fears/ambitions. If you need to be TOLD what Qui Gon wants, than it's bad writing.
>it's a really shallow one
Oh yeah? Why? You going to explain?
>What about when they placed blame on Bill Murray for Ghostbusters 2016 in the Plinkett review?
What about it? He was against doing more sequels for years and then just bent over for the money. I'd be mad at him too.
>How about the Plinkett TFA review where nearly 50% of it was complaining about the prequels/Lucas instead of reviewing TFA?
I wouldn't say that translated to 50 percent and the fandom was a big part of the hype and absolute shitfit surrounding TFA. Why would you ignore that?
>What about when Mike was doing a jab at fan obsessions with where Metropolis is or whatever while he's a big Star Trek nerd?
You're really just throwing shit to the wall and seeing what sticks now, what about it? You can be a fan of something without going full autismo and posting for 6 months about how a black stormtrooper hurts your stormnigger sensibilities, or how TLJ raped Star Wars and you will boycott a product because of a moobie you didn't like.
>some dumb point about CinemaSins
I'm not even sure what the point of mentioning that was?
>they are full of shit sometimes
Because you're the fucking target of their ridicule, friend.

Made me respond, here's your last (you). Go into another RLM thread now that you have tabbed and post your screencaps or something.

Fuck you're right. Masks are a death knell since no actors seem to want to deal with it. Even RDJ got around with with plenty of those holographic ui shots.

So? Do you think that makes Avatar and Titanic good films? Idiot.

The only people it upsets are shills.

plebs

Disney gives more money to charities than most small countries do though?

How many fucking trilogies are they making? Or is this the same as the D&D?

For someone who claims not to be upset at RLM getting criticized, you sure are upset at RLM getting criticized.

>people liked something to such an insane degree, that it is one of the highest grossing films in human history
>but you can't use this as a metric at all that maybe its decent
I don't like Titanic, but it's a damn solid movie structurally.

Answering your points in a succinct manner isn't "le mad", zoomer. I accept your concession.

>plebs
The Last Jedi is one of the only great blockbusters this entire decade. Sit the fuck down you underaged mental midge.

>succinct manner
More like dodges, RLM cultist.

>S-STOP MAKING FUN OF MY REDDIT LETTER FRIEND SIMULATOR

How many times have you personally posted that?

Dilate

yea?

again, that's not politics WITHIN the movie but you're just baiting me so who cares?

>visuals
Shit, it was generic souless disney cgi and horrible editing
>soundtrack
Only good parts were stolen from previous movies
>mise en scene
Just say set design. And none of it was memorable, with the exception of the Snoke's room.
>pathos and logos
All emotion was milked from previous films, the logic was nonexistent
>pottery
There is none.

I won’t be paying to see it, so deal with that.

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2009, inglorious basterds. Never paid for a movie since

>I can't defend my own arguments, better mention reddit
Why is the character test a "shallow one"? What does CinemasSins have to do with RLM?
Why would you ignore the fandom when discussing a franchise heavily reliant on fandom participation?

Do you have anything real to say or will you admit that you just parrot Yea Forumscel posts?

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>"DURR IF MAKES A BILLION IT'S GOOD HUrR"

I bet you think the Transformers movies are masterpieces, don't you?

So he just isn't allowed to like TLJ without first consulting you on what right-think opinion to have? Our apologies, gatekeeper.

THATS RIGHT, THOSE ARE THE META POLITICS
THE BIG PICTURE

YOU WANT THE SAME POLITICS IN MICROCOSM WITHIN THE MOVIE?
HAVE ONE OF MANY EXAMPLES

>muh Transformers
Transformers aren't the highest grossing films of literally ever, zoom zoom. The point was that you can't completely throw box office out of an argument, not with that one-in-a-million return investment.

>leftists in the media are a boogeyman
Nutjob. You must have been indoctrinated your whole life. From California?

Here's why

>I can't defend my own arguments, better mention reddit

I didn't mention Reddit, RLM cultist.

>Why is the character test a "shallow one"?
Because it's the same thing as the Bechdel Test. A trivial test that people use to make themselves think they're smart for identifying problems. It also diminishes the importance of visuals on a character, pretends that they don't have a part.

>What does CinemasSins have to do with RLM?

Because the defense of joke characters is usually "oh they're just being funny, don't take it seriously!" even though people keep copying what their "joke" characters say in other arguments.

>Do you have anything real to say or will you admit that you just parrot Yea Forumscel posts?

This is rich coming from an RLM cultist.

>I confuse the words "lefties" with "liberals" with anyone Left of Hitler being the same person
The "leftwing media" is both a hilarious myth that goes back before you were fucking born and a literal boogeyman when the largest American media companies and "edutainment" "news" organizations, are all run by a conservative parent megacorp that dictates the news in over a thousand cities across the entire continent every day, who happen to have times with the Trump Administration and other powerful GOP lobbyists.

But yeah, keep crying about your moderately left CNN boogeywoogey because they aired a story about Trump's border wall being a retarded idea.

So I'm not allowed to think his argument is shit without first consulting you on what the right-think opinion is? My apologies faggot.

Based anti-consumer

Shit taste and a pleb

You don't think the Bechdel Test is real either...?

Holy fucking shit.

holy shit that might be mine as well

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Incels btfo

I mean, you are objectively wrong about the visuals being bad. The film looks expensive as all shit, especially the mocap on Snoke. You're just being a contrarian to be contrarian.

>It's a trivial test
>You think it's not a real test?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since cultists can't think

7/10 bait bretty gud

>The film looks expensive as all shit,

You mean like the Transformers movies?

>The Bechdel Test is trivial
kek, what? You're just making statements without any substance.
>it diminishes the importance of visuals on a character
what in the wild fuck does this mean? A character isn't a character because of "what it looks like". I hope you aren't a writer, because you'd be terrible.
>people use the arguments from joke characters
If the argument is sound, it shouldn't matter where it comes from.
>I'm a cultist
I've been addressing your shit points, not defending RLM. Learn to read, and cope of course. Since the prequels are still shit.

Lol

based

(you)

It's not bait, you've been memed into thinking there is even a real "leftwing" in the US. There sincerely isn't any real leftwing mainstream party. Especially not in government. It's just a catch-all for anything the GOP doesn't like. And you, like a good little faggot, lap it up.

I assume you mean that since it's a trivial test, you dismiss it as something worth engaging with, yes?

Go back, leftypol. And take your meds.

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What even are you trying to say now? You said the visuals were shit, they objectively aren't, then you started to rant about Transformers?

So do you admit that he can have a valid point when talking about the visuals? Then he has a valid reason to like an aspect of the movie. So what are you even saying?

Snoke isn't impressive, especially with the budget the movie had. The rest is just the same low-effort CGI garbage disney always shits out. Lots of particle effects and things going boom without any thought being put into it. The cinematography is 90% boring and as I said before the editing is shit.
>you're just being a contrarian
Hating TLJ is the most non-contrarian opinion one could have.

>can't argue
>"here's a Yea Forums screencap of leftypol posters"
okay?

>The cinematography is 90% boring
You have zero eye and are NPC
hating TLJ is the most pleb thing you can possibly do

>Hating TLJ is the most non-contrarian opinion one could have.
Positive critic and audience scores and most of the world actually likes it...so cope.

>kek, what? You're just making statements without any substance.
I think everyone sees that your arguments have no substance.
>what in the wild fuck does this mean? A character isn't a character because of "what it looks like".
It means that sometimes visuals are important to a character. Learn to read, and cope of course.
> I hope you aren't a writer, because you'd be terrible.
Yeah, I'd be at a writing level above you. Not much of a disappointment there.
>I've been addressing your shit points,
With shit responses? Bravo cultist.
> not defending RLM.
He says, after defending RLM a lot.
>Learn to read, and cope of course. Since the prequels are still shit.
Going PREQUEL BAD a lot isn't the best way to prove that you aren't an RLM cultist.

What does this even mean

The guy you're responding to is trolling you hard, mate.

If you honestly think the CGI is "low-effort" in TLJ with the pricetag that this film's post-production had, you are intentionally being an obtuse retard just to avoid saying ANYTHING about this movie is good.

Liking TLJ is the most pleb thing you can do.

There is zero style to the cinematography. I only said 90% instead of 100% because I might have forgotten something, but I can't remember a single stand-out shot.

Oh shit. So if RoS does worse than TLJ, then Forbe will have to admit that it's failing commercially right? I mean, they just said themselves that it's in a better situation. So if it does even worse, it must be because the audience don't want to see it and not external factors, right?

>Liking the movie that BTFO the force awakens pleb shitters and those other plebs who liked Rogue one is pleb
Try again

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Based Abatap

Kind of weird how this same story pops up every few months.

>Try again
Okay. Liking TLJ is the most pleb thing you can do.

>There is zero style to the cinematography.
There's literally more style and beauty in the cinematography than almost every single blockbuster this decade.

You are an actual retard go watch mad max fury road already, pop it in.

>I think everyone sees that your arguments have no substance.
My arguments are that RLM make solid arguments a lot of the times in regards to how poorly structured the prequel films are, which I generally agree with. The characters are flat and uninteresting and have no character arcs or meaning to their actions. This upsets you.
>it means that sometimes, visuals are important to a character
But what do YOU mean by saying that?
>after defending RLM a lot
It's not just RLM who hate the prequels, zoom zoom. It's pretty much everyone, universally, for the last 2 decades almost now.
>going prequel bad a lot isn't the best way to prove that you aren't (insert meme thing here)
If you think RLM somehow invented the opinion that the prequels are shit films, then you have only been lurking here for an afternoon and are likely brain-damaged in some capacity.

I'll end with the very obvious fact that, the prequels still suck ;)

I'll deal with it JUST FINE by not watching it

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It also has the same Rian shills in the threads, too.

>Liking TLJ is the most pleb thing you can do
Thanks for that cold NPC take, pleb.

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I'm not trolling, the mocap CG on Snoke looks good.

>everyone with an opinion I don't like or approve of is an npc, mouseshill.

how many of those animals had to be put down after breaking their legs trampling through buildings, tables, people, and cars?

This user understands the larger picture.

>positive audience scores
It has the worst rating out of any SW movie to date on RT.
Nah I think he's just retarded.
>lots of money=good
CGI needs effort, anyone can just throw cash at third-party studios and have them shit out something passable and every live action disney production does just that.
Show it then. There has to be at least one clip on youtube of this breathtaking cinematography you're jerking off. Post it.

That still doesn't make them good movies, idiotic drone

It's just the same few autists who want to drum up artificial outrage.

How do any of you cope with the fact that most of the movies you fags have been posting about for the last 6 years have been either capeshit or absolutely garbage and the Rian Johnson comes along and makes some diehard kino in Star Wars finally and you all meme that it's shit.

It's literally better than all that John Wick, Numale Runner garbage you've been pushing

AHAHAHA IM DA JOKAA BAYBEEE

>Yeah, I'd be at a writing level above you
What are you, 12?

>Mouseshill

Doomwank

I'm sure everyone can afford to deal with it.
I wonder if Kathleen can afford another subpar sales return.

>clip on jewtube
Please for gods sake get a fucking big television and a proper copy. Youtube videos are compressed to shit and either sped up or slown down usually for film clips.

This board has soundless 3mb maximum webms. Try watching the movie with an open mind and not being bitter just because it's disney.

>My arguments are that RLM make solid arguments a lot of the times in regards to how poorly structured the prequel films are, which I generally agree with. The characters are flat and uninteresting and have no character arcs or meaning to their actions. This upsets you.
How does it upset me? I never said the prequels shouldn't be criticized. Are you confusing me with the zoomers who make those charts defending the prequels?
>But what do YOU mean by saying that?
Visuals are important to a character because they can influence a character's actions and decisions.
>It's not just RLM who hate the prequels, zoom zoom. It's pretty much everyone, universally, for the last 2 decades almost now.
"PREQUEL BAD" isn't a valid reason to demand RLM shouldn't be criticized.
>If you think RLM somehow invented the opinion that the prequels are shit films, then you have only been lurking here for an afternoon and are likely brain-damaged in some capacity.
When did I say RLM invented Prequel Bashing? I said they should be criticized, not that they invented it.
>I'll end with the very obvious fact that, the prequels still suck ;)
So? The only prequel related comment I had was their dumb character test and the fact that TFA had 50% prequel complaining which is more about TFA not getting criticized enough. The fact that you keep turning it into PREQUEL BAD, YOU'RE MAD means you really are an RLM cultist.

>It has the worst rating out of any SW movie to date on RT.
That's objectively wrong though?
>CGI ne

>buy our movie

Really suspicious there!

>mouseshill
cope
the last jedi is one of the only good disney movies made for two decades now.

Your reasons for why some youtuber should be criticized were dumb, that's the long and short of this.
>AHHH CULTIST CULTIST CULTIST REEE REE REEE
they would be dumb points with or without it being about RLM. Cope.

i forgot the part where god was laughing at moses. and then moses died after not telling anyone anything. and then someone else became leader of the jews. what great symbolism.

And RT audience scores are literally full of marvelfag drones that give 90% to all those shitty marvel movies and they loved the force awakens

Why do you not actually take the redpill, The Last Jedi pissed off all those mutts.

>the CGI is good
>"IT NOT"
>why?
>"NO EFFORT AHH!"
>what does this mean though
>"THAT IT BAD"
wew, you really convinced anons here.

This is the funniest shit I've seen all day.

>buy
Never said that, you can torrent UHD copies. You are underaged or stupid.

Yeah it's just one faggot OP that figured out last night he could get yous by saying Rian is a genius and that TLJ was "kino". Just some lonely neet looking for attention sadly enough. Just ignore him.

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Imagine building an entire terrible movie around this one shitty set piece...

I've lost what your narrative was now, does RT matter or does it not matter?

Yes youtube looks like shit, but good cinematography should still be there even if the video quality isn't. You're just avoiding posting any of your shitty movie.
I was referencing the audience score. It has 44% which is lower than any other SW movie, unless you count that CGI clone wars movie that has 39%.

>audience scores and most of the world actually likes it.

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>Your reasons for why some youtuber should be criticized were dumb, that's the long and short of this.
>AHHH CULTIST CULTIST CULTIST REEE REE REEE
>they would be dumb points with or without it being about RLM. Cope.

Well at least you're not trying to accuse me of being a prequel fan, cultist.

>Yea Forums on the prequels: They are keeeeno because the fans hated on them hahah their low scores don't matter
>Yea Forums on the last jedi: hahah it's shit the fans hated it XD

Absolutely amazing isnt it?

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So if the money it makes doesn't matter, and the audience score doesn't matter...

What in your echochamber do you allow as a means to judge a film?

The only counterargument I've gotten is "it was expensive". Sure showed me.

>and they loved the force awakens
Not that guy but they hated it.

>The only counterargument I've gotten is "it was expensive"

Do you suppose they meant like a Transformers film?

Welcome, brother.

>does RT matter
No it doesn't matter, imdb user scores, rt user scores and metacritic user scores dont matter you dumb incel
Have sex

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Faggot

>he's not including the RT score for the prequels

>Yeah it's just one faggot OP that figured out last night
It wasn't last night, he's been doing it in other threads before.

>video quality
But it isn't about the actual clarity quality, as you should know, youtube videos of movie clips are usually actually at different framerates and can be a higher or lower pitch depending on whether the clip is sped up or slown down

This isn't about the clip being bad quality compared to the crisp UHD, it's about the clip actually being completely fucking altered audiovisually because movie clips are rarely uploaded in their correct framerate

that

They're really going to make a whole trilogy that'll cost them billions of dollars out of spite?

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Watch Looper. He wrote that shit, too. If you can't spot the glaring, GLARING flaws in it, he's exactly what you deserve.

>not that guy but they hated it
>audience score 86%

>deal with it
Sure I just won't watch anything produced by this hack again

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Then we are saying the same thing...?

perhaps too much shitposting to tell!

Why does he need a fucking counterargument for you to settle your own sperg over the fact that someone liked the visuals?

They aren't bad visuals by any means, but if that's why he likes it, that's valid. These are films user. They aren't objective things.

>So if the money it makes doesn't matter

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>Phantom Menace: 59%
>Attack of the Clones: 56%
>Revenge of the Sith: 66%
>The Last Jedi: 44%
All the prequels have a higher audience score than TLJ.

No, it's just really obvious you are.

How the hell did TLJ not hit Avengers 1 numbers?

See the reviews. Prior to culling, sites like imdb had the most helpful reviews all be negative ones.

why are you only focused on the audience scores?

So those posts really were just you projecting all along, RLM cultist.

Just proves that the last jedi was kino
All those fucking scores are lower the top marvel movies and guess what the marvel movies are all 1000s of times worse

You didn't answer my question though.

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Cinematography isn't the fucking framerate, bitrate, pitch or resolution. It's the shot composition, the framing and movement of the shots. None of that is lost in a youtube clip you retard.

The Last Jedi was the highest grossing film of it's year and the last middle entry of a star wars trilogy to do that was Empire Strikes back

why the fuck are you actually talking about "avengers 1" numbers when talking about Star Wars

Are you such a beta bitch that this is your argument? It was the number 1 film in the year.

I like how you are ignoring that the OVERALL scores for each film is lower than the TLJ, but for your argument to work you need to focus only on the audience portion of the aggregate...not the final score.

Calm down, Rian

And yet the IMDB score was still fucking bloated and abysmally high and still is abysmally high.

God damn you are a fucking cuck. The most helpful reviews upboated on IMDB are usually the most fucking braindead and NPC tier

Because that one faggot brought it up:

>CULTIST CULTIST CULTIST REE REE REE REE RE REREREREREREREREEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Uh I thought Disney wanted to MAKE money from Star Wars, not burn it up with shitty writer/directors?

>Cinematography isn't the fucking framerate
Holy fucking shit you're actually a fucking retard, how old are you. Yes cinematography has to do with native framerates or else you aren't fucking watching the movie as it was shot and intentionally presented.

He kinda did, he did so by saying one of your premises was flawed.

...not just on RT though, all over different aggregates, TLJ is pretty well liked. Why does it ultimately bother you?

I find that it's the whole "Luke didn't follow my headcanon" that is the reason for most of the hate.

>The "leftwing media" is both a hilarious myth that goes back before you were fucking born

Hollywood has always been filled to the brim with with commies.

as the fly spits on its food

>Star Wars fans are killing the movies by saying that they don't like aspects of them, and then deciding not to see the movie when those aspects make it into the movie anyway. What assholes!

>And yet the IMDB score was still fucking bloated and abysmally high and still is abysmally high.
imdb.com/title/tt2527336/reviews?ref_=tt_ov_rt

It's not flawed though? To a degree, if a film sucks people won't pay tickets to see it. You can't just act like a complete retard and dismiss ticket sales.

>and movements of the shots
Thanks for proving that youtube videos that speed up or slow down a clip actually affect and change the cinematography since they change the movement to being slower or faster

And that's how an RLM Cultist argues, green text and all-caps.

There is no final score on RT you absolute imbecile. There's the critic score and the audience score.
TLJ is currently the most hated SW movie, why does that bother you so much?

Thanks for the input, Alex.

I'm not clicking on IMDB shit user. It still has a fucking huge 8.0 rating when movies that are 10000s of times better are in the 7s still. Capeshit and star wars are always shittily rated

Not that but see audience reviews imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_ov_rt

>TLJ is currently the most hated SW movie, why does that bother you so much?

For the same reason RLM fans get upset on Yea Forums whenever RLM is criticized in some way.

No, he countered them by saying your premise about money is wrong because it implies it's more profitable than it actually is.

>There is no final score on RT you absolute imbecile.
It's the Tomatometer you brainlet.
>why does that bother you so much?
Because it's not "the most hated SW movie" and this board is full of literal incels in full rage mode everytime you bring up anything positive about the film.

By being a terrible, unimaginative writer. What makes Retard Johnson infinitely worse is that he's so devoid of self-awareness and insulated by cock-sucking sycophants that he doesn't even know how dumb and unimaginative he really is.

I look on "Knives Out" as a sign that so.ething finally shook him, as it's a return-to-form for him. Brick was a Dashiell Hammett story set in a high school. "Knives Out" is Gosford Park set in modern America. It's his comfort zone and he should stay there.

>To a degree, if a film sucks people won't pay tickets to see it.

You mean like the dropoffs?

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Star Wars fans are literal retards who praise nostalgiatrash like rogue one, saying it's the most hated to those mutts is a badge of honor, so why does that bother you so much?

>8.0 average
Stop being stupid the movie is insanely liked and overrated on IMDB

>It still has a fucking huge 8.0 rating
>ignoring user's citations

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Ok yes, framerate is tied to it, but that's not all of it. If a shot is good it should show in a youtube video, you know this which is why you're refusing to post anything.
Yeah I'm sure a 1.01 increase in speed will completely ruin a shot.

I already btfo your silly points, now you're just damage controlling the narrative because you're salty.
>all these (you)s

>TLJ is currently the most hated SW movie
>because of a score on RT
imagine being retarded enough to believe this. Nobody has changed their minds on The Phantom Menace you brainless zoom zoom. The prequels are worse.

Fucking embarrassing.

>insanely liked and overrated on IMDB
>I am not the world's biggest Star Wars fan, but I have watched the old episode 6 (and the 2 before it). Star Wars: The Force Awakens is number 7, but in number 6 Leia, Luke and her resistance rebels were victorious. In this film they are again rebels and just have one base again and so forth. What is going on here? The scenes are borrowed, but the acting is inferior also. I am writing this and becoming confused. What happened?
>In a country that votes for a dotard who imported Chinese steel, stiffed American suppliers and workers, hired illegal aliens in Florida, married a foreigner who worked here illegally, declared bankruptcy three times and of course is making his merchandise in China, but is voted for by "nationalist" voters LMFAO we have a sequel that is a remake that is devoid of any merit,a rt, imagination, hope or acting/directing capability and yet makes a billion dollars.

Have sex

>I already btfo your silly points, now you're just damage controlling the narrative because you're salty.

But neither of those three happened.

>TLJ IS LOVED BY ALL!
>not it's not
>WELL WHO CARES THAT'S A GOOD THING!!!
You're not even moving the goalposts, you're just completely changing your narrative. The only reason I brought up audience scores was because some retard tried to say that it was super popular and therefore good.

nobody has ever argued that the dropoffs never happened. It still made a ridiculous amount of money though.

>Nobody has changed their minds on The Phantom Menace you brainless zoom zoom. The prequels are worse.

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Are you just mad that he doesn't like Trump now?

He's mad at a negative review because the negative reviewer hates Trump? What?

The Sequels are inferior KotORs.
TFA tries to be a best-hits love letter to the franchise like KOTOR 1
TLJ tries to be a though-provoking deconstruction like KOTOR 2
Only neither has actual sustenance unlike KOTOR.

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so is your argument now that "an audience score isn't a metric that a film is good"?

Jesus, what IS then? Just what you are told to think by this board?

sheeit based AND classic

Kys faggot

>not liking the jewish cuck too scared to fuck his own daughter
He should have been in pic related.

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>defending the Phantom Menace

Who are worse, Rianshills or RLMshills?

You specifically posted a review that mentions Trump.

So you admit TLJ is shit then? Because it's audience scores are bad. The worst in fact.

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Reddit Prequelfags.

>You specifically posted a review that mentions Trump.
I posted that & I randomly selected a review from the list, not caring about score or content besides length. And all were negative anyway.

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I literally changed my mind on TPM. I like it now.

I bet it matters to Disney and cot salesmen everywhere, because boy, I sure do like cots.

I didn't post it, but the negative reviewer hates Trump and TLJ. Why would that user hate it?

It's overall tomatometer is not bad though, it's audience score is low ON RT...RT isn't a monolith of all opinion. But I'm asking you, how do you judge a movie to be good/bad? Because your narrative changes; either RT matters, or it doesn't, then money matters but then it doesn't, then audience scores matter until they don't.

You're like a genuine autist.

But they're not overseeing the process.

Then you have bad taste and I disregard your shit opinions anyway.

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this nigga legit looks like a giant baby

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Fine, go back to watching your friend simulator RLM.

Yeah, the purple-haired lady wearing a literal martyr's halo ramming a "ship of peace" through the Supremacy's right wing is just pure coincidence.

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I don't think RT matters. I only talked about that because another user brought it up as a point in TLJ's favour. I never denied it's critic score was high, I just think it's worthless and the audience score is the only one with any relevancy at all. And I've never mentioned money, that was another user.

Why did they shill for TFA?

Ask the guy who was crying about RLM getting any sort of criticism.

Coping really weirdly after seeing the box office plummet on the second weekend.

Keep crying about RLM, that's all you faggots ever do.

The prequels are bad and everyone laughs at you outside of your subreddit.

If her ship is facing the Supremacy, it would be the left wing that she rammed, you projecting faggot. Quite the reach there, you aren't obsessed at all.

I don't give damn

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>Waaaah all RLM haters are prequel fans

Can Mike get some professional shills instead?

>all RLM haters are prequel fans
Yes?

Extra based if you dont seed

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So RLMshills then?

but RT's audience score only has what, a handful of reviews compared to other sites?

>Zinbiddle
the boundless creativity of Disney
truly a magic company

This is doubly true for Johnson. He bought his way into film school after multiple rejections.

>The prequels are bad and everyone laughs at you outside of your subreddit.
>Reddit Prequelfags.
>>I can't defend my own arguments, better mention reddit

Why are RLM cultists so inept?

I wish I got paid to tell you to kill yourself daily. That sounds like a good gig, I can do it drunk or without pants all day .

Fucking saved.

Why can't you admit that RLM is alright and the prequels are bad films made by a clearly out of touch retard?

who are you quoting?

they're obviously not paying you now, that's for sure

Then I'm not a shill, am I?

Why is your only argument against criticizing RLM basically "Don't criticize RLM because the prequels are bad?"

>RLM is alright
When did you realize that Mike Stoklasa was absolutely wrong about absolutely everything?

Retard answer- After his TFA review.
Slightly slow but not quite drooling answer- after getting tricked by the Plinkett reviews and then over time realizing that Mike was just an asshurt nostalgiababby that framed opinions as facts and namedropped famous movies like Citizen Kane to sound smart.
Real nigga answer- At the part of the TPM review where Mike acts like Midichlorians demystify the force.

P.S.
George was the common element of the OT.
Kasdan and Kershner were not involved with ANH.
The Hyucks were not involved with ESB.
Kasdan was never good as evidenced by TFA. George was carrying Kasdan's dead weight.
George had no co director on the set of ANH.
Joe Johnston has said that ESB is "more of a Lucas film than a Kershner film".

etc etc etc

Because you ignored my other points?
>still being this mad
You'll be crying until we archive. Isn't that sad?

You're right, you're not a shill, you're a cultist.

>When did you realize that Mike Stoklasa was absolutely wrong about absolutely everything?
At very beginning of his long winded and unfunny TPM review.

yes, this is the type of shit that I was talking about...that gets you mocked outside of your subreddit.

>Because you ignored my other points?
Like you've been doing?
>You'll be crying until we archive. Isn't that sad?
It isn't because I'm laughing at how you've been crying about how you're not an RLM cultist.

probably most of them
then the rest got their shit kicked in because they weren't able to survive in the wild

>RLM
I don’t think he even watched TPM. So Plinkett says that Valorum didn't need to send a commision to see if Amadila's claim was true, but wasn't the whole point that Valorum sent the Jedi behind the senates back?

Qui-Gon says thaf the negotiations will be short because people like the Trade Fed are cowards, so presumably Valorum had the same idea.
But the Jedi failed because of the Sith.

Valorum could have had the Jedi testify etc if they were successful, but they weren't, and he's already on shaky political ground. That would do him in.
And unlike many others we see in the senate, he's clearly a friend to the Jedi, going behind bureaucracy to use them.

Then Plinkett is saying that Qui-Gon should just steal the part from Watto, but that would mean Watto calling the hutts, which they can't have happen. Not to mention Jedi not being professional thieves, so they’d likely get caught stealing unless they succeed in mind tricking, which they didn’t.

Then Plinkett is saying that Windu should have sent more Jedi back to Naboo, even though the whole point is to draw Maul out, which he won't do if there are a whole gaggle of knights and masters there. Maul isn’t going to think he can solo an army of Jedi or even a large squad.

And yet, his "sacrifice" ultimately changed nothing. Rey learned nothing from him. Kylo's attitude wasn't altered in any wy by his confrontation with him, and even when face to face with him, Luke doesn't reach out to him, doesn't even apologize for his overreaction and near-murder.

Yes, you've said this about 100 times now.

>Cultist assumes the copypasta guy is the same as me

Are you schizo?