Can you become a celebrity without selling your soul?

he told in an interview that he was just eating a sandwich on a bench, he wasnt sad
also i like how incels here are quick to identify themselves with good looking men like keanu

>>born intersex herm
>Isn't a hermaphrodite when someone has both genitals?
Some keep them yes
>Also you're wrong. If someone changes their appearance and identifies as such then they have the right too be called said gender.
No they don't unless they pass completely which they can't with unnatural hrt and genital mutilation
>>inb4 they still have a dick
That's even worse
>No one goes around looking at genitals to make sure people their attracted too are a specific gender, you look outward.
Look if you look and sound more like a girl/guy that's what I'm gonna address you as.
Don't like it? Kys

Mel gibson did it
Marlon Brando
Danny devito
I think Keannu also but I dunno

>No they don't unless they pass completely which they can't with unnatural hrt and genital mutilation
You're acting like their aren't women with features considered "manly" in society. A lot of women have mustaches that they shave off, some women have chad jaws and chins, short hair, etc.
>Look if you look and sound more like a girl/guy that's what I'm gonna address you as.
That's my entire point. Also sound has nothing to do with it since deep voices aren't exclusive to men.

>>No they don't unless they pass completely which they can't with unnatural hrt and genital mutilation
They don't because I don't consider them natural women
Like how fake silicone tits looked OK in some situations but are usually obviously fake
Same with most trannies I just don't see the point
If you want a girly guy go fuck a twink
If u want a Manish girl go fuck a tomboy
>You're acting like their aren't women with features considered "manly" in society. A lot of women have mustaches that they shave off, some women have chad jaws and chins, short hair, etc.
Because they are born with functional hormones and a womb + working vagina
>>Look if you look and sound more like a girl/guy that's what I'm gonna address you as.
>That's my entire point. Also sound has nothing to do with it since deep voices aren't exclusive to men.
Yes they are I can pick up trannies voice cracks almost instantly

What I'm saying bluntly is this.

Your not good enough for me to pass as women.

Move on

>Like how fake silicone tits looked OK in some situations but are usually obviously fake
Anyone can get bad silicone tits, it isn't exclusive to trans-women.
>Because they are born with functional hormones and a womb + working vagina
What the hell is a functional hormone bro?
Some women can't give brith so are they men now? What if they got into an accident where their vagina was heavily damaged, would they be men then?
>Yes they are I can pick up trannies voice cracks almost instantly
Again deep voices and voice cracks aren't exclusive to men.

Dude, are you telling me you bring all your dates to the doctor to make sure they have the right hormone balance and that their pussy and womb works before you can date them?

Define soul.

>>Like how fake silicone tits looked OK in some situations but are usually obviously fake
>Anyone can get bad silicone tits, it isn't exclusive to trans-women.
Trans women are mtf you lot have it ass backwards
But yeah
And no I'm not talking exclusively about fake tits but rather how mtf/Ftm trannies can't escape their born gender
I can pick it almost every time be it a weird looking fake vagina or whatever
>>Because they are born with functional hormones and a womb + working vagina
>What the hell is a functional hormone bro?
I meant to say taking hrt is unnatural
It's probably not as bad as said roids or var or whatever but it's not been studied long term
>Some women can't give brith so are they men now? What if they got into an accident where their vagina was heavily damaged, would they be men then?
Not worth discussing as their vagina was once functional as it formed since they where born
If you mean baron women then it's not what I was talking about
>>Yes they are I can pick up trannies voice cracks almost instantly
>Again deep voices and voice cracks aren't exclusive to men.
>Dude, are you telling me you bring all your dates to the doctor to make sure they have the right hormone balance and that their pussy and womb works before you can date them?
I don't nor won't date trannies
As I said either tomboys or twinks for me you lot are too much work both emotionally and physically for both our sakes just stop

Physically mutilating yourselves won't solve your psychological problems just kys and respawn if you hate yourself and your bodies that much why inflict pain and suffering on the world? Now you lot are clogging up real medical emergencies and being pushed down waiting lists for good reasons your fake shit isn't as important as saving someones life and if you kill yourselfs because you have to wait how fucking impatient is that?

>I can pick it almost every time be it a weird looking fake vagina or whatever
A lot of vaginas look weird bro.
>I meant to say taking hrt is unnatural
unatural doesn't equal bad
>Not worth discussing as their vagina was once functional as it formed since they where born
But you don't know that which is my point.
>you lot are too much work both emotionally and physically for both our sakes just stop
I'm not a trans-women user.
>Physically mutilating yourselves won't solve your psychological problems just kys and respawn if you hate yourself and your bodies that much why inflict pain and suffering on the world
seek help
> Now you lot are clogging up real medical emergencies and being pushed down waiting lists for good reasons your fake shit isn't as important as saving someones life and if you kill yourselfs because you have to wait how fucking impatient is that?
source? Wouldn't those type of surgeries fall under specific doctors who don't regularly deal with life threatening problems?

Hay if trannies could just flick a switch biologically and or brain transplant into a grown/modded /donor body of their choosing design I'd say sweet go for it but while that's the endgame I just don't go for this weird in-between shit.
If morons wunna pre alpha test medical tech and an hero not my problem.
I think herms are hot tho so in the future if stuff advances and doesn't stay in the weird creepy frankenscience realm I'd be cool with massive dong futa oppai lolis running around as long as everything works

Men and women running around self mutilating is just silly because the technology isn't ready yet to replace bone structure wombs dicks tits vaginas or whatever
>>I can pick it almost every time be it a weird looking fake vagina or whatever
>A lot of vaginas look weird bro.
At least their real and not fake
>>I meant to say taking hrt is unnatural
>unatural doesn't equal bad
Yes it does especially if the person taking them has the frame of a linebacker or a sticc female trying to look manly
>>Not worth discussing as their vagina was once functional as it formed since they where born
>But you don't know that which is my point.
>>you lot are too much work both emotionally and physically for both our sakes just stop
>I'm not a trans-women user.
Don't care my point is valid from my perspective
>>Physically mutilating yourselves won't solve your psychological problems just kys and respawn if you hate yourself and your bodies that much why inflict pain and suffering on the world
>seek help
You should God forbid your moronic ilk get put where they should in society
>> Now you lot are clogging up real medical emergencies and being pushed down waiting lists for good reasons your fake shit isn't as important as saving someones life and if you kill yourselfs because you have to wait how fucking impatient is that?
>source? Wouldn't those type of surgeries fall under specific doctors who don't regularly deal with life threatening problems?
Here

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based if true

Jack Nicholson
Joaquin Phoenix
Rufus Sewell

Where they passable?

despite how it may appear, this isn't a tranny thread

thats not a source, it's a tweet. Even the source's title isn't right. It says trans male in the title then trans girl in the description.
>At least their real and not fake
I'm sure you can make some sort of argument on the differences between the two but who cares, it's a hole.
>Yes it does especially if the person taking them has the frame of a linebacker or a sticc female trying to look manly
So why is this bad?
>Don't care my point is valid from my perspective
But you aren't a professional (neither am i) so wouldn't you want to become more educated on the topic?
>You should God forbid your moronic ilk get put where they should in society
How is surgery physical mutilation?

Threads nuked because of our banter so u might as well do some legwork and tell me if any of them are worth looking up
Already saw that one keanu allegedly bummed but he's ugly
>thats not a source, it's a tweet. Even the source's title isn't right. It says trans male in the title then trans girl in the description.
>>At least their real and not fake
>I'm sure you can make some sort of argument on the differences between the two but who cares, it's a hole.
The natural hole is perfectly fine
The unnatural one is made out of Lower intestine easily gets infected and rotten out closes up without daily painful dilation collects hair balls and puss
So basically a inferior vag in every way who wants that? Might as well stick to anal
>>Yes it does especially if the person taking them has the frame of a linebacker or a sticc female trying to look manly
>So why is this bad?
Because it looks bad objectively
>>Don't care my point is valid from my perspective
>But you aren't a professional (neither am i) so wouldn't you want to become more educated on the topic?
Because my personal taste need not concern you
>>You should God forbid your moronic ilk get put where they should in society
>How is surgery physical mutilation?
Because there is no viable alternative yet
I'd I could get a bigger dick I would

Jesus Christ can we get the thread back on track, please?

no you dont understand those are celebrities who seem to have not sold their soul, not celebrities who bang mentally ill crossdressers
>u might as well do some legwork and tell me if any of them are worth looking up
fuck off you lazy coomer

>The unnatural one is made out of Lower intestine easily gets infected and rotten out closes up without daily painful dilation collects hair balls and puss
Isn't that just a yeast infection?
>Because it looks bad objectively
nothing is objective
>Because my personal taste need not concern you
that's not the point of this argument. The point is what defines a women.
>Because there is no viable alternative yet
What? I don't understand how that means surgery is physical mutilation.

let's start an internal thread

What's funny is that I'm a virgin I just like logically btfo trannies
So the two ain't mutually exclusive?
>>The unnatural one is made out of Lower intestine easily gets infected and rotten out closes up without daily painful dilation collects hair balls and puss
>Isn't that just a yeast infection?
Obviously not
>>Because it looks bad objectively
>nothing is objective
It is to me
>>Because my personal taste need not concern you
>that's not the point of this argument. The point is what defines a women.
If your born a female/male that's your gender end of discussion
>>Because there is no viable alternative yet
>What? I don't understand how that means surgery is physical mutilation.
Because the post op experience is a joke

Your left with a neovagina thats a inferior Chinese copy VS the real thing

>So the two ain't mutually exclusive?
i don't care, they're not related here

>>I #WontDieWaiting
>>die wait
>>diwate

Danny Devito is honestly the most based actor on the planet I don’t care what anyone says. The things he and his ex wife did for Mara Wilson alone woupd secure them a place in heaven

Trannies with rotted genitals and celebs fucking them make it relatively related no?
Kek
So did they or did they not?

>Can you become a celebrity without selling your soul?
no

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>It is to me
why?
>If your born a female/male that's your gender end of discussion
What makes a someone a specific gender to you?
>Because the post op experience is a joke
why? Have you tried it before?

they did not have sex with trannies, actors who never sold out
how does it feel to be a fucking smoothbrained retard?

>>It is to me
>why?
>>If your born a female/male that's your gender end of discussion
>What makes a someone a specific gender to you?
As I've said repeatedly it's what gender they where born as.
Paint a tree green it's not gonna be refered to as a blade of grass
>>Because the post op experience is a joke
>why? Have you tried it before?
Nope the 1st hand horror stories of doctors and nurses online did that it sounds horrible and it's what makes trannies actually kill themselves
Oooh sorry Mr gibbo

>Paint a tree green it's not gonna be refered to as a blade of grass
Not a good comparison. Trees and grass aren't the same species of plant. Your argument is circular. "Something is because something is". It's like arguing with a creationist.
>Nope the 1st hand horror stories of doctors and nurses online did that it sounds horrible
Surgery in general is unpleasant.

>it's what makes trannies actually kill themselves
Source?

OK let me flatline it for you
A man cannot physically become a women nor the opposite yet
At best it's a mockery of nature and a self aware joke

So yeah dunno why your arguing your own goal post moves and semantics with a 30 years old virgin

Why do you keep sidestepping? Just answer the question? What are your qualifiers for what makes someone a specific gender?

I've answered it many times

THE GENDER THEY ARE BORN AS

if u wunna get technical if they are born intersex chromosome or genital wise then cool hermaphrodites are neat

Apart from that fake intersex is gross

OK cool I'm a dog now woof bark bork that's how dumb those ppl sound

no, the industry kills you inside
t. celebrity

>THE GENDER THEY ARE BORN AS
Without bringing up hermaphrodites, what makes a man a man and a women a women?

Did they kill themselves after? Is Keanu the one to save them all from their existence?

THE GENDER THEY WHERE BORN AS
How many times can I re answer the same question
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As a general rule, you can't achieve any level of significant success without selling what most people would consider to be your soul. There's luck already involved in exceptional levels of success, to achieve those levels of success while also being this benevolent and spotless saint is almost impossible. We're talking PowerBall unlikely. Which also raises the point that if you make it through the process with your "soul" in tact, it almost certainly won't last the duration of tenure as an exceptionally successful person. U.S. culture doesn't typically reward having a conscience. It's more profitable to have no conscience, but just pretend that you do and even use some of your excess wealth to buy good press or shift the narrative to make it seem like you are a great person.

Be more specific dude. You're argument is circular.

No it's not
Your born a female/male and that's it.
Even herms ain't 50/50 I don't think there is a recorded case of one with functional womb + futa dick

>Your born a female/male and that's it.
Okay but why? Give me data for why you believe this?

Are you religous by any change?

>What is biology
You can mutilate yourself and become a eunuch, but you will never have a womb

>lives in a world where 99% of people are born and identify as Male/Female
>asks for data behind it
Please kill yourself via suicidal dilation, obtuse user of mental-illness and delusional denial of human biology

Don't brother feeding it (you's)
>121097490
First results on Google for true hermaphrodites fucking read it I'm sick of responding

>Okay but why?
that's the only distinction that's practical and has any effect in reality.

if you wanna take imaginary shit just as seriously then you have no legs to stand on to say that people who say they're dogs aren't just as correct. your position opens up the world to any madness you feel like. this isn't even hyperbole and hypotheticals, people are already doing this: they identify as animals, buildings, abstract concepts, and it's taken just as seriously as the transgender madness.

then comes the argument: why does it matter? why not let people lie about themselves and who they are? and there it comes back to the opening point: because it's a lie. it isn't real any more than it's real that I'm 7 feet tall. it would be great if I could just wish myself into something I'm not in complete incoherence with reality, but I can't, and neither can anybody else, no matter how nice it would be if we could.

and if reality is so harsh and painful to you that you can't live in it without lying to yourself, then at least have the dignity to kill yourself

I doubt he fucked a s/he....

If he was actively intimate with one, the celeb news circuit would have a field day with the notion of Reeves fucking a tranny....like he's be a hero for 'wokeness' or some bullshit.

"Dating",...sure, probably had a few beers with a fellow dude, but I doubt they'd be fucking.

why the hostility?
What the fuck are you talking about? No one is bringing up hermaphrodites. I'm referring to people who identify as a specific gender. Why do they do this and what are your own qualifiers for thinking someone is a female or male? I also like how you're trying to make me out as bait for simply asking you to expand on your opinion.

NOTHING IS BECAUSE IT IS, THERE IS AN EXPLANATION FOR EVERYTHING.

>it's real that I'm 7 feet tall.
But heres the thing. I can take a yard still and measure your height. It isn't imaginary.
> people are already doing this: they identify as animals, buildings, abstract concepts, and it's taken just as seriously as the transgender madness.
source?

Oh look it's already ignored your post
>121097913
Because it's not the truth
These people live in their own la la land by making their self projected image what defines them in reality and that's fucking stupid and no better than imaginary friends (in this case gender(s)) or religious shite

If people can't face reality fine retreat into fiction like the rest of us but I'm not enabling some fucktards thing of the week at the expense of my own sanity and for the sake of what little is left of theirs I'll retreat out of my own fiction to remind them of such

I brought up herms because they are naturally occurring trannies not these fakers clogging up mental health clinics and emergency rooms with their shit and suicide attempts or whatever the fuck
These people are mentally ill despite being born physically fine
Hence my parralel with actual true hermaphrodites
>121098007
Now Ur just being a obtuse fuckwhit and actually baiting
Mr bond

>hostility
Treat it as merely a harsh wake up call, like irreversible surgery without being anesthetised. Unsatisfying surgery that doesn’t resolve your internal questions, as significant external factors affecting you cannot be controlled, no matter how high the delusion and steaks are raised.

Please watch avengers:endgame in your theaters. The cd blue ray distribution starts in one month meanwhile you can still order a ticket for uncutted extended version of movie with one extra scene after the end with captain america

Please stop giving it yous seriously I've wasted 50 posts on this fuckwhit just to dodge my answers completely with its abstract questions

>make thread about selling your soul to hollywood
>soulless tranny spams thread

Yea Forums

>Asking what you're qualifiers are for what makes someone a specific gender is an abstract question?
bro....

Also, what question's have I dodged? The gender they where born as? How do you know that though? You don't have everyone's birth certificate.

>Treat it as merely a harsh wake up call, like irreversible surgery without being anesthetised. Unsatisfying surgery that doesn’t resolve your internal questions, as significant external factors affecting you cannot be controlled, no matter how high the delusion and steaks are raised.
You say so much yet it means nothing.
>anyone I disagree with is a tranny
real mature

I can clearly see if a male is masculine and a female is feminine enough to pass as that gender I don't need birth records for that u obfuscating bafoon
Stop dithering and asking questions that have already been answered
It's hardly spam because too much thought has gone into it

Now excuse me as I fap to 2d intersex and not Jewish surgical busted 3d abominations of nature
>121098502
Nice double post

>Gets labelled obtuse
>Uses ”means nothing” as a rebuttal
Doing really well here champ

You have no clue what it means to be mature.
You're off topic, fuck off
It's spam when it's fully off topic
take it elsewhere

>I can clearly see if a male is masculine and a female is feminine enough to pass as that gender I don't need birth records for that u obfuscating bafoon
That's my entire argument you daft cunt. For half the thread you've been saying it's "the gender they where born as" but now you're saying it's the features you've noticed. You've just agreed with me. Trans-women are females.

your post literally meant nothing. it added no value to the conversation besides making you look like a psychopath.

Make me
I've dug in its 5am and I'll stay awake cunt
Ironic isn't it
>121098779
Well the immediate answer is kinda complex you want me to boiler plate it so it do unsatisfied you ask me to elaborate which I've done.
Still unsatisfied you skip picking holes in my posts and just put words in my mouth
Trans women are not women they are men I said that at the beginning
Trans men are not men either

>121098863
Dohohoho that's rich I've been laughing my ass off this whole time now I'm masturbating to how bamboozled you are

You just can't accept your fake surgical pusy is a knock off fake of the real thing

Until penis vagina grafts take off all your semantic gender airy fairy whimsy is just making me zozzle cum out my nozzle mate
But please keep giving me yous

>look like a psychopath
I’ve no hang ups on appearances or identity user, nor will I articulate the frankly blatent subtext. Continue freely with your obvious struggles.

And now we wait
Here's a picture

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>Well the immediate answer is kinda complex you want me to boiler plate it so it do unsatisfied you ask me to elaborate which I've done.
>Still unsatisfied you skip picking holes in my posts and just put words in my mouth
>Trans women are not women they are men I said that at the beginning
>Trans men are not men either
But how would you know? You don't have their birth records. And you can''t say their deep voice or whatever because those aren't exclusive to men.

uh-huh okay thanks for adding nothing to the convo. peace bro.

Yep and as expected it didn’t want to engage in realism. So keeping with the surrealism, do you have a picture of a facially submerged ostrich that believes it’s actually a verbose and eloquent parrot?

I've never seen such a pathetic opt-out of an argument before. You're so up your own ass you can't even think of yourself as being wrong so you call all my arguments bait. I won as suspected but have a good day, man.

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>responds to dismissive user who’d hadn’t even (You)’d you
>”h-hey, I won”
Sure you did slugger, you da man. Literally.

And thus this post concludes today's episode of mentally insane people.
Next episode we shitpost about trans drag kids and oppai futa lollies and an exclusive ama with Desmond who later killed himself after airing.
Be warned fragile interlects will find that episode extremely confusing
What does it matter? They all have fucked up vaginas post op
Pre op prorably has erectile disfunction so either way it's useless
what passes for me might not for others and visa versa
That's a man baby!
I wish
Nice trips
WRONG
I WON FROM MY PERSPECTIVE

Trannies btfo