I know what you are. A fucking nigger!

Bump

With all the racism in Derry do you think Pennywise/IT would get offended if you called her half eggplant?

>I KNOW YOUR SECRET, YOUR DIRTY LITTLE SECRET
>YOURE A FAGGOT

>her
No longer canon, Stephen.

This movie kinda sucked.

It made me miss the TV adaptation

yep. like the book. like all of stephen king's books. great premises with mediocre execution

A nigger cook

He called him one when mike was trying to call for help after he got stabbed

That was The Shining
That was Bowers

>literally fucking nothing new happens
>Pennywise in it for probably about 10 minutes
>ending is literally youtube.com/watch?v=Df6sCNCWhqA

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The scene where the fags were being beat up was based.

No shit. I thought you would appreciate the joke

Holy shit, was Pennywise /ourguy/ all along?

>brutally killing children on screen is fine
>but saying the no-no word in an R rated movie about a backwoods town with an incredibly fucked up town is crossing the line

This is your culture on progressiveness. Killign children is a-ok for leftists.

found it

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How can one clown be so based?

Howdy NIGGER!!!

What did Stephen King mean by this?

It basically is at this point
I didnt annouce shit, cunt

>lol, just bully the eldrich abomination into weakness and then kill it.

What a copout ending.

Stephen King endings suck. they made that a point in the film

Still a copout

The original book ending was fine apart from the fact that it couldn't decide if Stan was in the right for offing himself.

>couldn't decide if Stan was in the right for offing himself.
How so?

IIRC it kept saying that Bill was the one who wanted them to come back then changing it to Stan (who foresaw the eggs) then back to Bill

Why do people even like King's books. He's a massive fucking hack.

Technically, he was just announcing a rule.

They're like fast food. I don't eat the actual food, so I read his books.

I thought that point was to explain how him knowing about the eggs contributed to his fear of what they would be facing and was another element of why he killed himself.

is he our guy?

Eggs?

He ran his brain through the coke and smoke press and channeled them into fun interesting books. I don’t think he’s a great writer, but he’s at least good enough to say what he wants to say.

IT's eggs

The movie omitted them it seems.
Unless the end credits revealed some shit, as I sure as hell didn't stay and watch them.

The marvel quips killed it

Lots of reasons why I love his work. The characters are golden and I love the way he depicts all the little things and isn't afraid to go into the gross and shitty things we do, think and feel. It's fun to see his inspiration from Lovecraft in so much of his work and how he has taken it and buildt upon it to make something of his own. He describes childhood and the mentality of both children and animals so well and creatively, But I probably had a similar childhood to his which makes it so easy to imagine. I can relate and really engage with all he writes about being in the woods, at junkyards, making treehouses and dams, creepy houses and a hell of a lively imagination that spooks you.

yeah they discarded all the whole macro universe shit in the movies because it doesn't add anything to the story. the eggs weren't in the movie

The quipping killed any vestige of suspense the film could have had.

Also having grown up with a lot of movies, shows and games, all the references and inspiration really gives the whole experience of reading his books a sort of connectivity that bring endless parallels and makes it so much more.

Raimi knows some people and pulled some strings

This why can’t anything be serious anymore

but seriously do you?

The whole macro universe shit is fucking retarded anyways.

>The original book ending was fine
>HELP ME TURTLE JESUS!

Makes sense, Penny wise feeds off of fear and there's nothing a black fears more than being called a nigger

Now post the underage sewer orgy

>Howdy nigger!
How did I feel about this?

Acceptance.

How come no one ever thought of just shooting It? They make a point to say it's based off fear and belief and if you believe something hard enough it has the power to harm It. Well I sure as fuck believe in the almighty power of 7.62x39mm FMJ.

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i think richie tozer wondered aloud why they weren't brining machine guns when they were confronting IT as adults. at least in the series with tim curry. i'd have to look through the book

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Based

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What the fuck did King mean by this?

In the new movie duology, Bill shoots it in the head with a cow-killer twice, I think.
Didn't do shit.

gimme a sec for the rest

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No.
Opening was kino.
All the death scenes were kino.
Restaurant scene was kino.
Bob Gray scene was kino.
Eddie vs Henry was kino.
Richie was kino.
Lumberjack scenes were kino.

post yum yum in my tummy when you're done too please. I'm just saving all the book clips.

>"Nobody can stop me now!"

You posted an image depicting you hitting a report button

This movie was a joy to watch
The granny scene cracked me up

In the book It does call him a nigger. Speaking through the severed head of one of the losers, goading on Bowers.

Not him but

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thanks. Just want all these for OCD

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Ive come to kill all the women, rape all the men, and learn to do the peppermint twist!

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You don't know what that word means if you think part two was any good.

>howdy nigger!

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I can only read this in Tim Curry’s voice

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What the fuck?

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aw fuck the page numbers

and that's it

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All this really says is you're a self important pleb with a room temperature IQ and no awareness.

imagine how much better the movie would have been if spider Pennywise vored Beverly whole and burped haha

Jesus fucking christ how the fuck did King get away with this smut?

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Get your head out of your ass! Growing up in the early 80's there weren't a huge catalog of books that catered to the edgier than thou art crowd! In comes King with the most off the wall shit no one could have imagined. I remember reading a book all those years ago too about orgies and axe wielding Christians out to slaughter them all. And that book was more boner inducing than anything King managed.

King's turned into a faggot since he stopped taking cocaine. His earlier books were edgier and cooler and hipper and more thought provoking. Everything since his accident feels off.

storm of the century is the exception and that was a screenplay.

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Lolita is a lot more perverse. The way Humbert Humbert would be having a picnic with 12 year old Dolores only to a moment later push aside her underwear and fuck her senseless. Only to be happened onto by other picnic goers who out of embarrassment or minding there own business paid no mind to the larger man on the smaller girl. And as the passage said venus came and went and Humbert spent quickly buttons up and grabs Lolita.

All pretty tame compared to Gravity's Rainbow and Naked Lunch tho

Writers are fucking pervs.

Gravity's Rainbow and Naked Lunch.

You've activated my inner pervert, so please, where can I find these two. Yes, google but are there free copies anywhere?

One has to be when penning such colorful scenes. With Vladimir Nabokov hiding his perversity in unyielding prose, much like Joyce might.

Is Pennywise the most powerful Stephen King antagonist, or is that the Crimson King?

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I, for one, am shocked and dismayed that Pennywise isn't the ally to proud poc and lgbtq people we all thought he was. Shame! #BoycotItCHapterTwo

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Based Pennywise.

King lost it when he ended that series. Didn't the Crimson King lose? I think his strongest is the demon from Needful Things and Andre Linoge.

It's hard to say. Pennywise was killed by a bunch of shmucks, but may not be dead.

The Crimson King had to be literally fucking erased. Also, just the fact that he went for the tower alone makes him seem like bigger business than Pennywise.

iirc they're pretty similar in power, but the crimson king strikes me as far smarter. like pennywise just wants to eat and sleep and hates maturin, but seems pretty unaware of gan or the dark tower

it was a different time, i guess

Gravity's Rainbow has a six-page passage describing every detail of the main character fucking the shit out of a ten-year-old German slut in the bowels of an orgy ship. It would be shocking it weren't 500 pages in and you weren't already desensitized by the countless other degeneracies committed by nearly every character in the course of the book, including eating turds fresh out of a Nordic woman's asshole, roleplaying as Hansel, Gretel, and the Witch in a Nazi rocket site, and measuring infant erections to reverse causality.

I don't know anything about Naked Lunch, though.

Reminder that Dick "Nigger Cook" Halloran escaped IT taking the form of the KKK in the book.

Based Scatman

Jesus fucking crhist what the fuck is wrong with the people that write that sort of shit?

>I don't know anything about Naked Lunch, though.
It was written by a junkie pederast.
That's all you really need to know.

Based and Honkpilled

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what do you think the inside of Pennywise's belly is like
I bet if he swallowed you whole he could keep you alive in there for a month to savor your fear and weakness

You forgot the "haha" at the end you imitator fuck

Lol what?

Is this the greatest love story of our generation?

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Fucking based

Faggot. Get a .308 or fuck off commie cocksucker

I don't know, but I definitely related to his closet faggotry and unrequited love for a friend. Got me good.

I dropped a nigger bomb the other day on Yea Forums and got a warning. New Jannies are straight off the Reddit boat

kek

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A WASR could kill IT

Post deflated Pennywise

Context is important, nigger

Yes.

Fuck Ben/Bev/Bill, the real heart of the movie was these two.

So you're the fag that's been reporting everyone?

>but the crimson king strikes me as far smarter.
the CK went mad, and spoke in utter nonsense towards the end

>and unrequited love for a friend

We don't know if it was unrequited though. Eddie seemed way more gay than Richie, he probably would've gone for it if Richie had spoken up.

>"Scared, Potter?"

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You don't get it. You literally don't understand a Stephen King novel. Wow.

>all the bigots/book purists are mad that Richie was made gay because "it wasn't in muh book"
>yet they approve of all this pedoshit

Really makes you think

The turtle doesn't resemble anything close to jesus. How are you this dumb?

I understand it fine you retard, I am saying that it is fucking lame.

how the FUCK are they going to explain this to Eddie's wife

> just bully the eldrich abomination into weakness and then kill it.

No, you literally don't understand it. I know you don't know this - that's part of the reason why you misunderstood it.

How could they explain Henry too for that matter?

uuh who cares
fuck eddie and fuck eddie's fat cow of a wife

>The morel of the story is to kill yourself instead of facing your problems

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Nigger, that is literally what happens in the fucking movie you stupid fucking dipshit. They call it fucking names and shit to make it "feel small", they outright fucking state that plan out loud. Aka they bully the big ebil eldrich monster into submission, which is retarded, and lame.

ah i see

>well you see...

He's the best character after Richie.

>fuck eddie

You'd like that wouldn't you, Richie

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>both of the jewish characters were gay.
What did they mean by this?

This. People tend to just reduce it to an eldritch abomination, as if writers can't take inspiration and build something more with it. The 'rules' don't apply because King made his own thing that is heavily inspired but not the same thing. Besides, people are seemingly forgetting or just ignoring that these 'rules' don't even apply in Lovecraft stories as eldritch abominations are defeated in some of his stories.

>Announcing a report
Enjoy your 3 day time out kiddo

it's honestly not a bad idea if your problems can consume your soul and torture you endlessly

Faggot

I don’t understand why they didn’t just kill Pennywise immediately? They already know exactly what to do seeing as they defeated him once already as kids. Literally just don’t be afraid of his illusionary bullshit and bully him into submission. Wow so hard!

Xavier Dolan is Jewish?

this was the second best scene after dirty little secret

All fags are trash!

What was with all the bizarre humor constantly? Like the angel of the morning scene,wtf was that??

HAHA WACKY SELF AWARENESS AND QUIPS EVERY FIVE MINUTES
JUMPSCARE
QUIP
JUMPSCAE
QUIP
10/10 FILM IN 2019

I'm convinced Adult Ben is the worst actor ever

My roommate is actually reading that shit. He's pretty far left, but I guess that's a given because you would have to be to stomach that level of degeneracy.

He was well-cast in terms of his looks, but yeah, his performance was pretty empty. His whole adult storyline of carrying a torch for Bev was one of the more emotional parts of the book, but in the movie it didn't land the way it should have.

I'm about as right-wing as you can get without being a literal national socialist, and I consider it one of the greatest American novels ever written. It took me about two months to get through it due to sheer density of information and language constructs, but during that period of time it was nearly all I could think about. It's captivating in a way that's rare among novels.
And don't let the weird fetish shit discourage you, because for every scene like that there's twenty describing the intricacies of German rocket engineering, obscure post-war Germany cultural references, and just plain weird non-sexual stuff you couldn't come up with if you tried.

Its REAL!!? Oy vey I thought OP was memeing

Sounds like daddy molested her and used "bonding" as an excuse to nail his child, all while she learned this behavior as normal and used this to molest the other children, thus creating the chicken and egg scenario of rape, which at a young age creates other predators and homosexuals.

Based Stephen "if theres no grass on the field play basketball" King

Just turn your brain off bro geez

>teutonophile doesn't mind degeneracy in his stories
imagine my shock

Who dis slytherin meson demon?

I used to think clowns weren't funny but then they started using the N-word

haha imagine crying over racism. What a dumb nigger

>It made me miss the TV adaptation
The TV adaptation was based because it had John Boy Walton in it.

That's a lot of implications.
No one is saying every eldritch abomination = Lovecraft, nor are they saying their problem is with it being defeated, but by how lamely it's defeated

its an interdimensional monster that feeds on emotion, how would you defeat it? a flamethrower? it isn't the Thing

Didn't realize reading a book about WWII made me a teutonophile. Retard.

I'm about as left wing as you can get without being an out and out commie and I'm here to tell you that Pynchon is overrated pretentious trash for pseudo intellectuals, so not surprising that this guy likes it.
Also this

Yeah, why would he call Jessica Chastain that?

Make yourself useful and fondle my balls, would you?

Why did they randomly kill off Eddie at the ends of the movie for no reason? It completely ruined the ending

The Jannies are turning it into reddit tho.

unfortunately king made pennywise more complicated than he needed to be. he went from the boogey man to an extradimensional entity to an alien that lays eggs. and the losers club didn't die due to the power of friendship to actually another extradimensional entity was protecting them the whole time (otherwise their ass was grass). and then they punch it to death and pull out its heart.

if he stuck to shapeshifting and IT takes on the weaknesses of what it changes into, it would've made more sense. or if they stuck to the theme of overcoming individual fears it would've made more sense. but it was really hazy

because he dies in the final battle in the book

Yeah it happened in the book so what? Doesn't mean they have to butcher the movie like that too

i'm just telling you why it happened. didn't say it made for a better movie. i liked eddie better than mike and ben and even bill in the movie

I thought Part 1 had a little racism in it.

Three teenagers beating up fags and throwing one in the river seemed incredibly out of place for a scene set in 2016, especially since the movie never really went out of its way to establish the effect It has on people. In 1984, it could've maybe happened. In 2016, there's a zero percent chance of that ever happening anywhere in America, especially New England.

I thought Eddie was always gay and they just decided to switch things around and make Richie the gay one instead.

pretty much every SK story ever has way over the top psychotic psychopathic bullies, idk what the fuck happened to him as a kid but its clearly a major issue for him

shifting the timeline forward 30 years made the story make slightly less sense imo

They do establish that they were suffering from amnesia.

>In 2016, there's a zero percent chance of that ever happening anywhere in America
This. It's not like someone would shoot up a gay club or anything like that lol.

You realize the shooter was a fag too, right? I don't think that really counts in the way you think it does.

He sort of brushes on it a little in the autobiographical stuff in On Writing. He had a babysitter as a kid that would sit on his face and fart on him. And he apparently felt an amount of guilt for participating in some form of bullying towards the weird girls from poor families in school that wound up inspiring Carrie.

Y r sois desperately trying to turn this meme around?

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>I love the way he depicts all the little things and isn't afraid to go into the gross and shitty things we do, think and feel.
yeah, almost like that's what literature does.. idiot

calm down sperg

All the CG monster crap is cringe but nice fagkino scenes

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Because if he didn’t return Richie’s love, it’d be disappointing, and if he did love Richie back, it’d be unrealistic. Him being dead means you can imagine him as as gay as you want.

I read that whole book when I was 13 kek

I read needful things, and I thought that was interesting. A lot of his other shit is just plain bad.

Most of his books describe cosmic horrors as what they are not rather than what they are.

Like 20+ pages of exposition on this indescribable horror. He should start beating his wife harder for attaching his name to such writing. Most of his works just meander toward a conclusion, like a drunk stumbling home after a all-nighter and feels like it's just padding a short story out to make a novel to sell.

If I was Lovecraft, the hell i would feel for having such a writer claim inspiration from my works would condemn me to a torture far worse and less deserved than the Doom that came to Sarnoth.

Probably would have been too exhausting to continually be in suspense

youtube.com/watch?v=pSsbhJ2E6IE

>5 minutes after killing the interdimensional eldritch horror

This. 1990s Miniseries adults with Danny Boy, Chariots of Fire dude, Jack Tripper, Night Court judge, Corey Haim's dad from License to Drive, Venus Flytrap and Lana Lang were way more BASED

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Christ, how did Richie not pop a massive boner after this?

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They were all fucking terrible, there is nothing redeemable about the miniseries. Even Curry didn't ham it up nearly as much as he could have.

zoom zoom? wtf

Take off your nostalgia goggles, gramps, the miniseries is legitimate garbage.

>PG- rated ABC adaption of gruesome horror tale
>good
fuckin dumb faggot kek

HAHA! Fucking zoomer's been exposed to so much capeshit he doesn't even recognize what's even quality acting anymore. Kek.

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how did you forget john ritter?

>R - Rated screen adaption
>Grungefag adults just cuss and scream for 3 hours, so edgy
>bathroom full of red dyed karo syrup, the BLOODIEST SCENE IN MOVIE HISTORY! TOP FUCKING KEKKERS!
>good
fuckin dumb faggot kek
FTFY

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I'm probably older than you, you blind nigger.

I did
>Jack Tripper
How young are you?

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>if new movie bad then old movie good!
this is your brain on nostalgia

Guys, I'm literally Pennywise.

Lol I hated it back then. It aged well though compared to the tryhard hack screen adaptation. The little girl with the birthmark-scene was BASED tho.

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>What was the last non-Tarantino movie to use the word nigger by a whitoid?
I think viggo said it last year in the movie that he drives some black guy but i hear viggo it's an argie so none

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE LET ME OUT

THERES KIDS HAVING SEX DOWN HERE

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>movie kept cutting from adults to kids to adults
>all I could think about was how the adults looked nothing like their kid selves
The kids parts were the only good parts.

Shoulda cast Dave Chappelle as Pennywise specifically for this

Only Richie, Bev, and Bill looked nothing alike, the rest were pretty spot on.

dave chappelle screaming niggerfaggot in full pennywise getup would've been too kino for this world

so is the pennywise-is-a-monster from another novel shit people talk about actually canon?

how powerful is he as a monster? What other kinds of monsters are there in that universe?

SPIDER CLOWN, SPIDER CLOWN DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER CLOWN CAN.

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ok, it isaq thing from the prim, at the beginning of reality billions of years ago, the prim washed out and many chreatures and things existed, then the prim receded, basically magic, some creatures just died without the prim they starved others escaped to the todash darkness, the place outside reality, others adapted, mostly those wh could eaither take human form or were already kinda human looking and found another food source, the grandfathers (og vampires) aka salems lot, the children of the CQ, spider emotional vampire things, aka IT and Dandelo, and others
t. coked out of his head SK

Stephen King is probably the only person alive that could make me root for a psychotic clown devil against little children

Check'd and tell me. Is there actually any merit to Rainbow other than pure shock factor alone?

someone post the thread

I don't remember that happening

Racism was the real monster of IT.

Maybe the real racism was the friends we made along the way.

Take a metric fuck ton of LSD and DMT and astral project anime fight that fucker.

The bullies didn’t use the n-word, come on.

My nigga

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gotta have the shine for that, and manturin backing you up is probably also a good call, otherwise you get eaten, if you form a ka-tet you might be ok, but gotta fuck that ginger in the sewers, godspeed

god reading is boring, i couldn't even finish that shit

t. American

you all are not even real racists. The key phrase here is
>how you doon?

They can't meme for themselves and can only steal.

>mike stayed in Derry for a constant fear of what pennywise can do
>Richie is in the closet
>Ben married a domineering obese woman like his mother
>Beverly marries an abusive man just like her father
>Bill blames himself for his brother’s death cause he should’ve been there and would’ve if he never lied.
>Ben was a fat kid and this girl he had a crush on when he was 12 was into another guy
Doesn’t really stack up well

*eddie
I mentioned Ben twice sorry about that

yeah ben had fuck all to do as an adult other than try to hit on bev

king is just a poor writer

Ck wasn't even completely erased, they couldn't get rid of his eyes
being stuck on a balcony of the tower for infinite number of millennia will do that to you

This.

The Crimson King exerts multi-dimensional malevolence on a cosmic, sometimes abstract scale. IT does similar, but with one town.

Also, to illustrate the difference, another creature similar to IT, Dandelo, was waiting for the Gunslinger's crew right before they met the Crimson King.

as somebody who actually grew up in small town Maine, it really isn't hard to believe that someone around there might want to play smear the queer.

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Derry is supposed to be a vile backwoods town though, even the miniseries makes a point of this. People look away or don't care when children are being terrorized or killed. It's due to Pennywise's poison.

what a fucking retard you are.

It's hilarious to hear people actually thinking King is a hack or a bad writer, makes me wonder who in the fuck would be a good one.

why choose worst 7.62 when real fucking NATO exists

Where was all this outrage when Patrick died in Chapter One? In the book he was a little queer that pushed Henry to let him suck Bowers' dick. He was the only person in the movie that Pennywise killed aside from Georgie.

IT hates gays.

Which book did "Ancient Evil under a small town" better?

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unironically the best part of the film

Everyone in the movie was shit except for Eddie and Richie ngl

Eddie was tied with Richie for best character. The movie should've just been about them getting into wacky hijinks.

...

Couldn’t they have made the clown a bit scarier? He looks like those little chubby plastic baby dolls

oops

There must have been more 80s scenes filmed with those two, it didn't make a lot of sense when the flashbacks went from Richie trying to get some other kid to hang out with him at the arcade to fucking writing R+E onto a fence. Also, why was it not hinted at AT ALL in the first film?

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I actually agree with this

You're calling yourself soi you dumb leftoid

>Also, why was it not hinted at AT ALL in the first film?

Yeah, this was the big weakness of this subplot. JDG said in an IG live that the R+E scene wasn't in the screenplay, so maybe the whole Reddie thing was a last minute idea?

Your problem is that you're not down with the clown.

>Also, why was it not hinted at AT ALL in the first film?

It wasn't originally planned obviously, but it's not like it has nothing going for it in the first movie. Richie teasing Eddie all the time could easily be seen as a boy picking on his crush, they have several moments where it's just the two of them bantering with each other, sharing ice cream, Richie telling Eddie to look at him when Pennywise is approaching, Richie pulling Eddie to him during the projector scene, Richie starting that fight with Bill because Eddie nearly got killed, the fact that they're the only two who hug at the end. Little things like that.

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cringe post made by an idiot

>We don't know if it was unrequited though
We do know that it was unrequited though. He saw him as bro and that much was made obvious when he was about to die and all he could do was make jokes about fucking Richie's mom.

>We do know that it was unrequited though. He saw him as bro

That's literally just your interpretation. His joke to Richie was clearly him just trying to make Richie laugh or carry on their banter as usual, numbnuts.

Or you're just over analysing and trying to make his death sound more poetic than it actually is. If he actually had feelings for him that was the time to confess, what was stopping him from cracking jokes and coming out at the same time?

They actually did film a version where he just says "Richie, I..." and trails off, but they didn't go with it for some reason.

can confirm. I'm ⅛ black and I always get
a fight-or-flight feel when my 1/1 black peers get called that

*citation needed

Don’t worry you’ll find good writers when you turn 13

>HAHAHA NIGGER

Why the fuck is Yea Forums humour so lazy

>saying people and not folks

lol nigger

But Pennywise DOES say it. Multiple times

Schrodinger's gay.

I think people don't respect King because his work either doesn't make or doesn't set out to make any poignant intellectual or political statement. He's not Faulkner, Nabokov or Hemingway. He makes what could essentially be described as pulp fiction not the kino but he's fine with this. He explains this in IT through Bill.

But a work of fiction does not necessarily need to aspire to Faulkner, Nabokov or Hemingway. It doesn't need to be allegorical either. There's nothing wrong with the types of stories King writes.

He can, perhaps sometimes, be over indulgent. But he's a master of tension and generally speaking does very good character work. I don't think King's ever written a particularly bad character. Where King has consistently and self-admittedly proven to fall short is his endings, which somewhat mitigates his tension crafting expertise. All of the build up deflates in a lackadaisical and unspectacular manner. IT probably has one of the better endings of his stories just based off of what I can remember. IT, as a story, just gets crazier and crazier until the whole town of Derry literally collapses in a gigantic torrent.

The Stand is a notoriously bad ending. It seems to build toward a fantastic confrontation between good and evil, but we lose characters in the trip to the final battle, which never actually takes place because some retard sets off a nuke. It's awful, which really stings because the rest of the Stand is really quite good.

The problem with this was the payoff wasn't so good.
The beginning was spoopy. Got me intrigued.
Then it started becoming kinda retarded.
Only book of Koontz I've read, but I've heard that Koontz never involves the supernatural in the same way King does in that all the phenomena in Koontz's stories can be explained through "science" in the stories, whereas King has shit like ghosts and inter-dimensional demons and other fairytale shit.

For a spoopy tale in a small town, I honestly prefer the latter kind of supernatural rather than the "everything has an explanation!" thing like Phantoms.
Although, as I say, shit was spooky up until they find out what the entity actually was. Though that's the test of any horror media, isn't it?

Can the story survive beyond the monster reveal or not?

>The Stand is a notoriously bad ending. It seems to build toward a fantastic confrontation between good and evil, but we lose characters in the trip to the final battle, which never actually takes place because some retard sets off a nuke. It's awful, which really stings because the rest of the Stand is really quite good.

Is the ending really not very well regarded?
I read it about a decade ago or more but I don't remember what I actually felt about it at the time.
I do recall that the build up to some epic final battle only to have it suddenly not happen was kinda jarring, but how else could it have ended?
IIRC it was a handful of guys from the much smaller "good" camp being sent cross country to the "bad" camp that essentially had an army of people.
They get fucked up, captured and then the trashman, a loose plot thread that at the penultimate moment finally comes back to play, does what he does and that's that.
What did the detractors want to happen?
Flagg was too powerful, and he had too many with him.
Thinking about the nuke thing now it sounds funny, but like I said I can't remember what my feelings were of it at the time.

I think The Stand is the one people point to the most when they say his endings are bad, but I don't know, that's just me going off what I remember, vaguely. It's been a while since I've been tuned in to the Stephen King fanbase.

>I do recall that the build up to some epic final battle only to have it suddenly not happen was kinda jarring, but how else could it have ended?
With an actual battle and not a literal bomb going off.

I agree though, it's hard to really think about what the good guys could have done to stop Flagg.

I recall King describing the nuke's mushroom cloud metaphorically as the finger of god smiting the evildoers. The allegory here is that god is more powerful than any army, and that confronting Flagg (but not actually fighting him) was the only requisite action for god's intervention.

They could have found a way, it's classic King: supernatural overpowered magic enemy gets trashed by random people 101.
Desperation had the same logic. Tak was too strong but suddenly God helps the little kid, the same way he helped the old lady in the Stand.

Regarding The Stand. First of, the bomb goes off becasue of the hand of god literally coming down or something I think. Secondly, it was never really in the cards that there would be any epic final battle, the general theme and feel of the book does not indicate it, the characters themselves intuit that they will probably die, but have some effect on the evil in some way. I feel this epic confrontation is much more something people are accustomed too and expect because of the good vs evil theme.

Also, the Trashman was hardly a loose plot thread, it is very clear that he has some grander purpose and the constant alluding to the dangerous toys he might find in the desert, even expressivly mentioned something more potent than just grenades and guns, kinda gives the whole nuke thing away early. It is an abrupt ending, but in many way it is realistic and fitting within the story and the way it is presented, meaning there is good vs evil and basically agents of god and satan, but it is really epmhasised again and again how they are just humans and small pieces of something bigger. And that really is Kings writing in a nutshell, supernatural things vowen into human interactions.

GOT EM ROFL

first off the bomb goes of because the blue lightning shit that flagg shoots turns into something and activates the bomb. Secondly the whole thing is loosely based on the book of revelations which talks about the 2 witnesses, so thats what the 2 are witnesses to the defeat of evil, also they had to stand so god would interfere by turning flaggs attack against him

I just cracked up when the one faggot started talking shit like he had a "can't hit me, I'm a woman" card, then got stomped.

Pennywise is an alien that traveled across the universe isn't he? So this basically implies that even higher up intelligent beings call black people niggers.

Edmund Kemper has an IQ of 145. IQ doesn't mean much if you're a piece of shit.

Inaccurate.
It should have been:
"Howdy, nigger! Whad'ju say? How you doon? You dead, son! What ju think? I DIN DU NUFFIN!" Gibs me dat, balloon!"

What did they mean by this.
youtu.be/HTzGMEfbnAw?t=57

what a ride

Guess we're both right, the blue lightning gets turned into a giant hand in the sky.

>I got a box of 20

i guess steven king is a hack after all

does it come in the 40 watt range?

bachman books were great

you do realize it costs a dollar a round?

this scene gave me butterflies

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Did the movie really need to splice humor in with half of the horror scenes? Why did they think would be good for the audience? About half way through, I was convinced this movie was made by people who hate horror movies. No subtlety, quick cut jokes and interruptions in like half of the dramatic scenes, ruining any suspense that was building in the audience.
It feels like a horror movie that was re-edited by some zoomer minded execs who couldnt make a serious movie, it had to take the piss out of itself.
Anytime the movie got serious (except maybe the last 1/5 of the run time), some character would be compelled to ruin any tension built.
Not impressed by IT Chapter 2. Makes me want to watch movies made 25 years ago instead of this post-ironic crap.

it’s the marvel effect. also i’m not sure why exactly but the horror/comedy mix worked a lot better in chapter one.

The restaurant scene wasn't nearly as impactful as the one from the TV series.

Imagine being too much of a pussy to read a book lmao

The Bob Gray thing that was like a minute long was legit though. Seeing the person pennywise based his clown look on was a trip.

I want to see the pre-80s stuff that was filmed about his previous massacres including the first time he took a baby as a deal to leave shit alone for a while. Apparently 90% of it got shot and they're giving Andy more money for a few new scenes for a supercut.

Most of the humor was in scenes that didn't directly involve It.

The scene where Eddie is stabbed for example, Eddie has been face to face with Pennywise literally ten goddamn seconds from being eaten. An asshole in a mullet is nothing after the knife is out of his hand. He was also a bully, and Eddie got to get back at him a bit.

The only other horror moment with a funny twist was Ritchie in the deadlights, and I can even rationalize that one from both the perspective of managing tension as a director or just biomechanics

>just call me...

I know It likes to 'season' it's victims with fear, but why does it allow them to escape so often? It seems to be able to create whatever the fuck elaborate stuff it likes, but then it'll all randomly stop working, eg locked doors unlock, he just fucking walks away, etc.
I get that the characters can sort of just 'believe' some of the illusions away but a lot of the time, It just seems to let them get away for no reason.

Ritchie was always making sex jokes as a defence mechanism. He was basically straight acting.

Why didn't Richie just tell Eddie how he felt? For the love of God man, you're deep down in the sewers fighting for your lives against a giant spider clown. There is no guarantee you're going to get out of this or get another chance to say what you really feel. The notion that he wouldn't confess his feelings but Ben would seems a little odd.

Doing that would mean coming out as gay though. Not exactly an easy thing for most gays to do.

But would he really care about that given that death was likely to come at any moment?

i always figured that since IT feeds on fear, letting the victims escape is like the equivalent of slowcooking a piece of meat.

Depends on who's coming out I guess. Even in that direction situation, it might still be a hard thing to just blurt out and admit after hiding it all that time.

Even in that dire situation*

the kids were better in the miniseries but the adults were way better in the movies

Only one of the TV kids could act though.

Well the character see a hand even before the bomb goes off and the tard says he saw it from far away and says it was a hand as well. Pretty sure God just manipulated whatever energy flagg used and made him inadvertently blow himself up.