Joker 2019

Cope harder marvelcuck

he's talking, shrugging and sitting legs crossed like a huge faggot.

He comes off kinda gay to me too. Jeez, I guess heath still the best.

>shills keep pushing Joker on imageboards for about an year
>Honk meme also start being pushed
>msm media keep saying how "afraid" they are of the movie
>autistic retard get hyped for the movie
>the movie is actually making fun of autistic doomer white retards

Pretty based, they got the right formula, instead of being retards like Disney talking about diversity before the movie which scares people away, they do the opposite, creating hype among autists.

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Dancing on the stairs scene kinda comes off like a 14 year old pretending to be the joker. Terrible music choice, terrible.

I'm sorry, but why does he sound like a flamboyant gay guy? That was fucking awful.

>capeshit
>no superpowers
>probably no actual fights
Easy pass

That voice does not fit, hope they change it before release

Umm uhh

why does he sound like a raging FLAMER?

This is Joker as he was on the verge of being redpilled. Therefore you see a combination of his old self + new self. The old self was a depressed/cuck. The new self was a happy and expressive chad. In the transition between the two is where the interview takes place.

Dude looked like he was about to cry before he shot taxi driver. Jeez, dark Knight joker practically shut down gotham just for fun, the first thing he did was Rob a bank and kill all his men, this guy seems like a whiny baby at the climax of the character. Jaquen in the master seems more joker than this.

>this guy seems like a whiny baby at the climax of the character.

That's the whole point of the movie.

Yeah, Dark Knight Joker is more of a true "psycho". He shoots people without even looking, he's a cold guy that barely feels a fucking thing when he kills. This Joker is going the more "realistic" route but he just seems fidgety and nervous about it all, which kinda sucks because he isn't confident. DK Joker would've owned it and made a huge spectacle out of it without even trying.

I dunno, Heath's Joker is looking mighty invincible right now. Maybe I'll change my mind when the full thing comes out/is leaked.

Yes but he's a different kind of joker. 2008 Joker killed so many innocents and the movie was really about batman's story. Pheonix's Joker has a different story to tell and is all about the origin of his character.

>your sons been killed by an alcohol ma'am

wow
putting 10k now on Once Upon a Time in Hollywood for best picture

bro if there was a website that let me bet on random shit like football games and Oscar wins I would be a fucking millionaire

Seems almost like their trying to emasculate the character. Seems like the movie should have just been some arthouse drama about some random guy instead of using capeshit as a way to get more attention. It's pretty detached from all versions of the character, comic or movie anyways. Whatever I guess, the memes we're funny.

You'll get what you fucking deserve.

he might sounds gay, but he still looks and behaves like a psycho in my opinion

What do you have winning Best Picture?

well, not Joker, that's for sure
> the clip that killed the hype

So is this essentially the ending to the movie?

>man what’s the hype I watched a two minute cam rip clip and the movie is trash

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seems to me like early 3rd act stuff, setting up the climax
but for such a pivotal scene, it's fucking embarrassingly bad

It's the beginning of the climax.
Either way it makes sense, once the guy finally goes off the deep end he gets sent to Arkham asylum and from there on he becomes the joker everyone knows and loves.

>Scene where he kills mommy
>Scene where he gets bullied kills Wall Street
>Scene where he runs
What else is there?

Sort of. The end Joker is basically slowly hardening himself but at the core of it, he's still a mortal man who has ills of his own.

>gay character is a mentally ill psycho
Based

Dk joker would have this dude's face cut off for being a bitch

>Whitey gets rejected by powerful women poc kills Stephen Colbert
What did they mean this

Who knows how the DK's Joker started, I could see this guy keep going further into madness and becoming less emotional, and more cynical.

Honestly looks like shit. I'll probably still watch it for the memes

They're not connected. It's essentially two different characters.

Go back to fapping to gay porn shitbrain.

Hmm I don’t know maybe watch the actual movie and not a few clips out of context before you form an opinion. If the clips dissuaded you from seeing it than so be it but for fucks sake we’ve seen 2% of the movie in shitty clips. But hey maybe everyone and Venice and TIFF were totally wrong.

Cope harder mcuck

>psycho
He's not a psycho
>gay
He's not gay
>mentally ill
He's not mentally ill

I know, but I said I could see him going down the same route in terms of personality. Since this guy at the end of the movie is a broken man that just doesn't give a fuck anymore.

Ehh you can piece enough together to get the idea. There isn't going to be a single scene to save the whole thing, comonbuddy.

HE IS.. BASED

I feel more like this guy would be a lower tier Batman villain like the penguin. Like are we gonna get a bane backstory movie where he starts wearing a mask cause he has asthma? Doesn't seem right, but I appreciate any interpretation. Much better than leto at least.

So if the director is pushing this as a homage to Scorsese's films, can you already guess how the movie progresses through?

I can understand that different feeling, I give it the benefit of the doubt since it's his origin, we're used to seeing the already molded Joker that's gone off the deep end. So I'm giving this a pass considering it's his journey to becoming the Joker

Agree to disagree I guess. I can’t imagine an interesting looking movie, with an actor like Joaquin, getting the praise it has coming out and watching a few clips and dismissing it entirely.

This movie is going to be absolute trash. Im pretty sure its just going to be a better version of that C U C K film. Joker is going to be portrayed as a white male that is just a victim of his own priviledge and in the end he is going to become all that the liberal society hates.

Maybe context and the rest of the movie's feeling would help, but that was fucking horrible.
Also Robert DeNiro's completely bored fucking acting might have ruined what any chance of Walking Penis' performance having any impact here. Not impressed with either of them though.

AND REMEMBER, THAT'S SNEED!

Retard

This isn't the real Joker. It's trash starring a hipster douchbag!!!FACT!!!

Still recovering huh?

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>The wokest room in the world gave the best award to crazy whitey Incel capeshit
Hmmm

Cope and also woke "people" hate the movie so double cope

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Maybe it's just bad

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So he goes from doomer to literal honkler?
Makes sense.
youtube.com/watch?v=aAuX4HvVUKc

>Implying I like Marvel because something else sucks
This is Yea Forums now

Or maybe you're just coping with the fact Joker won the Golden Lion and only SJWs and marvelshills are shitting on the movie

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wtf bros he's just like me !

What made TDK Joker an interesting interpretation is that he was still the core of the Joker character: Chaotic randomness personified. Everything he does is based on rules only he knows, but in the Nolan film he was simply given more of a terrorist edge, which still works fine.

This isn’t even Joker. Nothing about this beyond fucking up a scene front Dark Knight Returns is Joker. He isn’t representative of some group, he doesn’t address some form of injustice, he hardly even gives a fuck if he’s wronged as long as it’s funny. This is just a shitty attempt to push an agenda by slapping names on it.

>This isn’t even Joker. Nothing about this beyond fucking up a scene front Dark Knight Returns is Joker. He isn’t representative of some group, he doesn’t address some form of injustice, he hardly even gives a fuck if he’s wronged as long as it’s funny. This is just a shitty attempt to push an agenda by slapping names on it.

100% CORRECT. (((They're))) using this character to attack white males!!!FACT!!!

he’s a tranny
Dc just made a tranny kino about a tranny committing acts of violence
Pretty based desu

seething shill

thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/joker-movie-review-joaquin-phoenix-batman-villain
Can a movie do a character examination about a creepy histrionic incel without it being accused of "glorifying" it?

Not in current year, the moment they knew it was about a disenfranchised white male they just wrote the negative review and never saw the movie

Just the fact that pic related was written in that article and a lot of critics seem to hate it means I'll probably go see it.

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why does he sound homosexual?

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too serious, too edgy.
Ledger's joker was fun and felt more psychotic.

Not being able to wait 20 fucking days. Pathetic.

>Mental illness is an excuse
I want to club this bitch with a dildo.

aww fuck they weren't kidding when they said this was incel joker

I just wish they could see that Arthur isn't supposed to be cool or even really that sympathetic. Just because the movie doesn't hold the audience's hand and outright say that he's bad does not mean that it is approving of Arthur's attention seeking fueled violence. Arthur is a pathetic fame-hungry narcissist, and the movie respects the audience enough to let them figure that out themselves.

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Seething Disney shill

Anyone here have the entire thing?

It's like watching a 16-year-old throwing a tantrum. There's no charm to him at all, so I guess the movie is all about making him look as pathetic and annoying as possible.

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Forza Giocatori

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actually terrible

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> watch the late-night-host-gets-shot clip on /wsg/
> the audience isn't bent over laughing from being poisoned by a gas

shit joker

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kek based Joker quoter

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>Wall Street guys
Wait I thought this was set in the fictional city of Gotham?

I really like the Arthur Joker as a character just based off of these few clips that have been tossed around. Anyone else?

"Wall Street guy" is just a turn of phrase. It's used to describe those big shot broker guys.

well if it's taking shit from tdkr joker was pretty gay in it

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Yeah I'm thinking it's kino

>not labeling them as porn holidays

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it's a comic book movie, jokes on you if you expected anything but trash in the first place

how did he get a gun inside a talk show going live
what the hell
also checked

Yeah it's interesting, I'm surprised by the clip OP posted. Phoenix is actually doing something very different, more effeminate and dweeby than what I expected. I thought he was going to be all contorted and angry as he was in The Master.

>porn holidays
I dont get it

I rewatched the Master in preparation for this. I don't know if I ever expected Arthur to be on par with Freddie. Freddie was like a beast in human clothing. Arthur seemed different from that in the trailers. I wonder if Phoenix expected people to go in expecting Freddie and deliberately tried to play away from that. Either way, I think he did a good job.

There's something about Arthur Fleck that feels more human than any other Joker. Which isn't to discount the various incarnations of the Joker we've got so far; they're all good imo. Except Leto's. I'm just saying, there's something about this one that really draws you in.

Just a common name for quality Yea Forums tier fetish vids on pornhub to avoid being deleted.

>Incel joker realises killing people is fun, starts a life of crime
>kills the wrong guys, draws the attention of the mob
>mob boss gives him the Glasgow grin, dumps him in the river and leaves him for dead
>coppers (who are on the take) makes sure the murder never reaches the GPD, official record states "death by natural causes"
>no body is ever found

"Nothing. No matches on prints, DNA, dental. Clothing is custom, no labels. Nothing in his pockets but knives and lint. No name. No other alias."

I'll sus it out later

>emasculate the characer
he's a clown bad guy who fights a man who wears a bat costume, is a different interpretation really doing so much damage?

That was fucking trash, of course Yea Forums sucked it's cock, this is the YWNRH of 2019.

The Glasgow grin is for traitors only, not civilians. You know nothing about the mafia, Jesus Christ.

Maybe he joined the mafia and betrayed them then, that seems like something a nascent joker would do.
Hell you don't even have to alter the greentext if you assume that the "wrong guys" he killed were his mafia buddies.

yeah and nobody remembers the homicidal clown.

You can't join the mafia if you aren't italian (wich is the major mafia group in Gotham)

all women are child abusers

Do you remember every murder you see on the news? Wacky shit happens all the time, if we're talking a timeskip from Bruce being a kid in this movie to the events of DK that's more than enough time for people to forget, especially considering there was a huge economic downturn and several other high profile murders (like the waynes) in that period.

There are like 8 distinct organised crime outfits in the dark knight though, and only one of them is Italian.
Also, note that heath ledgers joker seems to have a preexisting beef with at least one of them in that scene where he offers to kill the Batman.

SOCIETY

It was the 80's.

>effeminate clown just shoots a guy
>whines for 5 minutes...MUHH EVEYONE IS AWFUL...POOR ME
>you: WOW HOW COOL....SO COOL!!! MUHH COOL!! jasper! le egdy

This is fucking garbage OP. Reassess your godamm life choices. You're a fucking virgin because you like retarded shit like this.

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CAN THE FUCKING AUDIENCE STOP FUCKING LAUGHING JESUS THIS IS WHY I DON'T GO TO THE THEATER ANYMORE

cringe

>How should I do the voice?
>I dunno, just make him sound gay I guess.

Joker could literally suck of two BBC in this scene and these Yea Forums incels would proclaim "BEST SCENE EVER! DC #1! IT'S GETTING CRAZY OUT THERE! HE IS JUST LIKE ME! WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY". It's fucking stupid. This movie looks like straight up garbage written for 10 year old edge-lords.

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No wonder this movie is a stand alone cause no way this retarded incel Joker could keep up with Batman.

pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5d7b1ce05a918

Jesus fucking christ. This shit makes all the other Jokers look like kiddy shit in comparison. also that scottish midget made me fucking laugh my ass off

MCU10000
DCU 0

Seriously. I feel so fucking bad for DC fans. They’ll look back on this all 20 years from now and cringe while we will still be getting fucking amazing movies from marvel

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>JOKER = a literal clown who just kills some dude with a knife
>SOO LE COOL

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>check out clown frog
kek

Marvel will never be admitted in a festival like Venice let alone winning it. It's over. DC won

this is going to flop so hard

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>Literal homo incel clown
But let’s seeDCucks go on about howtheir villains are so iconic.

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all whos except thanos

Apart from Loki and Thanos I couldn’t tell you a single one of those character’s names with a gun to my head.

Problem I have with this concept of a backstory to Joker is that there would be a trail of evidence for Wayne to research his nemesis. Having him a unknown works better for the dynamic between the two.

With Marvel you can cringe at the very moment

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Enjoy your LGBTQBLT super hewoes faggot. 20 more years of the same shit over and over.

Lol, okay sweetie

Well uhhh at least until captain marvel came out.....and homecoming.....uhh and I mean endgame wasn't really that good....umm..
And uhh...black panther.....

>ohh noo a rich white man IN A SUIT
>ohh no white rich white smart girl
>oohh no a rich indian kid
>ohh noo a spoiler black emo kid
>ohh no a rich kids field trip TO EUROPE!
>HEAVANS NO! SO CRINGE

Yeah, why aren't they in clown make-up, piss poor as fuck, mentally unstable, bitching about how society is mistreating them? Why aren't they stabbing randoms on the subway? Make them more like your boi jasper, that the ticket, right? ;)

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>starts the speech off with sucking off indians
why are canadians so fucking gay?

Yeah why aren't they? Maybe they could compete in serious festivals if they tried

far from home is unironically better than anything dc has ever produced

>le film festival meme
kek

So they aren't "big boy awards" anymore? It's getting hard to keep up with your coping mechanism, mcucks

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>implying I said anything like that
Enjoy being part of the "target audience"

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Yea Forums is infested with DCucks and WB shills

it's sad but laughing at them when their shit movies bomb makes it all worth it

same to you sweetie

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Golden lion

>mental ilness is just an exuse
>unlees it's a woman with metal ilness, or someone black or tranny.... than it's super serious

good little NPC just keep circling back to your worthless award from a shit festival that didn't even have half of the movies that are kicking this piece of shit's ass now at TIFF and will soon do again at NYFF

>we're slowly compiling this film clip by clip
It's just the same 5 clips posted over and over again.

The Glasgow Grin is for anybody who feels like mutilating another person, idiot. Stop pretending to be an authority, nobody is impressed.

>bro if there was a website that let me bet on random shit like football games and Oscar wins
there's tons of bookies which allow that, you moron.

Marriahmge Story got BTFO by Joker in Venice. Joker won the golden lion you know?

Isn't the Joker supposed to be a psychopath?
This Joker clearly isn't.

DCucks are a special kind of stupid case in point

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That has to be a stunt double

You know it's kinda funny I think the most hype this movie actually got here were the sort of frivolous edgy memes, like people made them ironically but thinking this movie could actually be something great, but it's turning out milquetoast arthouse pretentious shit and people are seeing through it.

tranny kino
trannies rise up

>shilling a movie you didn't even watch
retards

>turning out milquetoast arthouse pretentious shit and people are seeing through it.
Only SJW disneyshills though, european critics loved it. No other superhero movie has won a Golden Lion, fuck the only oscars Marvel has ever won has been for nigger pandering

now that is some serious COPE

So is that it Yea Forums? are you finally waking up from all the insane shilling?

>Thank me later"
I'm thanking you for saving me ~$14 (or however much movies cost these days) now that I know this film is unequivocally dogshit

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I'm sure it's just early and the rest of the retards will be here in a couple hours

Todd Phillips is tranny pandering, his joker is literally a tranny. And he made her a mass murderer. Unironically the most based film decision of the 21st century

>The epitome of pretentious eurotrash loved it
Non of these movies deserve the real accolades, I'm assuming there's some ulterior explanation for the praise. All of these sycophantic nepotistic award ceremonys are fraudulent.

>Things only matter when they agree with me
the classic DCuck motto

Winning the Golden Lion is the highest achievement by a capeshit movie. Keep seething though

the fact that you didn't know it even existed until last week proves how meaningless it is DCuck

now having the highest grossing movie of all time THAT'S an achievement

Man, it's pretty mediocre.
I feel like I've already seen that scene in a million other movies. And that thumping and music changing to fake tension before Joker kills the host...so overused.
I had faith in Joaquin Phoenix but this is shit compared to Heat Legend.

yikes, i used to be lowkey hyped for this
heath ledger died too soon

Jesus fuck that was bad

Stop projecting MCUck, Venice is the second most prestigious festival in the world after Cannes. Tell your bosses to start making good movies like Joker and maybe they'll get admitted

>muh MCuck
>muh DCuck
You're both disgusting shills. Fuck the soulless mcu and fuck that edgy tryhard bullshit.

>good movies like Joker
>RT still won't certify it because they know more negative reviews are coming

>I didn't know it existed so no one knew it existed
I repeat, winning the Golden Lion is the highest achievement a capeshit movie has EVER gotten. This is a fact

writing seems pretty bad if these clips are any indication of the entire script

>RT matters
>prestigious european festivals don't
That's a BIG yikes from me, not gonna lie

we've seen the entire script, it's even worse

>why aren't they in clown make-up, piss poor as fuck, mentally unstable, bitching about how society is mistreating them? Why aren't they stabbing randoms on the subway
Now you're getting it!

This movie has given me a new found respect for tdk joker, Jesus Christ, it's like that set the bar and now everything else is trying to emulate it, while desperately trying to raise the bar but failing miserably because the character if portrayed just a little off turns into a joke because it's a literal fucking clown.

this
everyone complaining about it in this thread sounds like they were already against it beforehand

I knew exactly what kind of film I'd be getting with the first trailer and I am still excited for it.

>European
You know that means absolutely nothing right?

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i dont wanna be a downer or nothin but this looks cringe as fucking holy shit what are you doing mr. actor man

That late night show scene is absolute kino, no wonder mouseshills are samefagging this hard ITT

>"glorifying it"
The issue is that he lashes out against his perceived victimizers. These critics would rather have these figures "just get over it" one way or another without "harming" other people, "bringing other people into your problems".

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>This isn’t even Joker. Nothing about this beyond fucking up a scene front Dark Knight Returns is Joker. He isn’t representative of some group, he doesn’t address some form of injustice, he hardly even gives a fuck if he’s wronged as long as it’s funny. This is just a shitty attempt to push an agenda by slapping names on it.
Wow it sounds like you've already seen the film 3 weeks early

incels are created by raising straight boys like straight girls

DW;NS(poiling)

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I can

Jesus titty fucking Christ. Imagine living in the UK and needing a license for the most mundane reasons. You Brits really are the biggest cucks in the world.

There's ads. Clips. A lot of stuff coming about the movie. If you have absolutely zero idea about what the movie is about then you will just have to accept that you might be a brainlet.

People say this, but the primary driver of inceldom is the economic fallout from the Great Recession and a refusal of the media to adjust its portrayal of life to that new normal.
So now we have a lot of men with much lower incomes, but women are still taught that men should have the resources of men at the height of our civilization.
Marriage, home ownership, birthrates, sex rates; all took a gigantic plunge in the late 00s and early 10s.

>There's ads. Clips.
Oh wow out of context scenes from an at least 1 hour 20 minute film
Maybe I'll hit up the cliffnotes too
>If you have absolutely zero idea about what the movie is about then you will just have to accept that you might be a brainlet.
Yeah it totally makes sense for someone to be looking forward to this movie without having seen even a single trailer or any info whatsoever
Nope, that would be the equivalent of having seen the whole film already

>the primary driver of inceldom is the economic fallout from the Great Recession and a refusal of the media to adjust its portrayal of life to that new normal.
>So now we have a lot of men with much lower incomes, but women are still taught that men should have the resources of men at the height of our civilization.
I clap for you.
>Marriage, home ownership, birthrates, sex rates; all took a gigantic plunge in the late 00s and early 10s.
Money was part of it but I think MGTOW spreading the divorce horror stories did way more damage.

"anti-capeshit" Marvelfags exposed ITT

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nice damage control

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>They're just so economically unattractive
the self esteem generation tought men they would find someone who would love them for who they are only to end up in an even more competitive aggressive social gauntlet where you can't even use the term gold digger so they had to redefine it in a way that makes the women the victim.

Movies aren't games.

very good! can you name other things that aren't games? I bet you can

Here I'll give you a hint for another one: it's part of the name of this very board. Can you guess it? take as much time as you need

>PaddyPower
>Bet365
>Betfair
>Coral

Ummm Sneed?

This looks like shit.
What's up with the journalists and reviewers saying this is incredibly shocking and edgy, and will inspire mass killings, etc.
Are they shills or people who've never seen anything other than American blockbusters?

Yeah.

This. I wrote off gosling's bladerunner on a few choppy screnes camripped to youtube. Now it's probably my favorite film.

You know Kilmonger.

Based logical poster

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>working hard for those Disney dollars

I wish.

That’s what he meant idiot. You have an idea of who this guy is based on what’s come out already and this guy is nothing like the joker.

What's with all the mouse shills and resetera tranny posters shitting on a couple of clips?

>You have an idea of who this guy is based on what’s come out already and this guy is nothing like the joker.
I don't care about your vision of what the Joker is supposed to be. If he's not wacky woohoo he's shit according to you Yea Forumsnts.
I knew what I was getting when I saw the trailer and these clips are in line with that expectation.
I'm still on board, and if you're not, you never were.

Stop moving the goalposts. Nobody cares if you’re on board or not. All that user said was that Arthur is nothing like the Joker and you said there’s no way to know that idiot.

>Stop moving the goalposts
I'm not.
>Nobody cares if you’re on board or not
Same for you.
>All that user said was that Arthur is nothing like the Joker and you said there’s no way to know that idiot.
It is true that there's no way to know that---at least not for certain.
But what it means to be "like the Joker" is subjective/ambiguous once you bring in every performance starting with Heath Ledger, because those deviate from the typical understanding of the Joker too.

Yes you are. You’re saying shit about “I knew what I was getting into and I’m on board with it and you’re not” when nobody cares. He said this guy is nothing like the joker. That’s it. You keep moving the goalposts everywhere buddy. Ledger’s Joker wasn’t exactly like the comics but at least he had the element of chaos which was in comic joker. Adaptations don’t have to be exact but at least they should resemble what they’re adapting. Arthur is fucking nothing like Joker at all moron. That’s the the point he was making. Not whether this movie is good or not or if you’re in or out. No one cares.

>Yes you are. You’re saying shit about “I knew what I was getting into and I’m on board with it and you’re not” when nobody cares.
I already rebuffed this "nothing like the joker" nonsense.
My line there is simply reaffirming that we've long already knew what this Joker was going to be. The disagreement, again, is whether or not this Joker is legitimate, and I ended my piece in that discussion with "I don't care what your opinion is," for the reason already stated.
>He said this guy is nothing like the joker. That’s it.
Yeah, based on a few clips, not the whole film.
>You keep moving the goalposts everywhere buddy.
No I'm not.
>Ledger’s Joker wasn’t exactly like the comics but at least he had the element of chaos which was in comic joker.
And Joaquin's has the element of tragedy.
>Adaptations don’t have to be exact but at least they should resemble what they’re adapting.
Sure. And who is to say Joaquin's doesn't, *at all*?
You? Him? Based off some clips?
>Arthur is fucking nothing like Joker at all moron.
How do you know?
>That’s the the point he was making.
I know that, and it's retarded, and you're repeating his retardation.
>Not whether this movie is good or not or if you’re in or out. No one cares.
Yeah, same with you. Nobody cares what you think either. Yet we're going to continue shouting into the wind.

Why is everyone here so scared of this movie?

>we will still be getting fucking amazing movies from marvel
>we

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People here evidently feel like it's the second Joker in a row that's inauthentic.
They also have suspicions about Jews.

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>all that marvelkikes and roasties against /ourmovie/
YEP, I THINK IT'S KINO

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Is this all the DC shill team could come up with? Wow you guys are really in tune with today's generation.

AMC charges you about $18

Based on what’s come out. Yes based on some clips that shows his personality. Based on reviews about who he is. Based on the scene and script leaks. If you don’t care then why did you reply idiot?
>nobody cares what you think
Good thing I didn’t mention anything at all about what I think then huh? You’re the only one who said anything about your opinion and how on board you are idiot. The only point we were making is that this is nothing at all like comic Joker based on freaking everything that’s come out. It doesn’t resemble him in he slightest. If you think the movie is good then good for you but we’re not talking about that at all idiot. If you really think we can’t tell that they are not similar in the slightest then you really may just be a brainlet.

Unpaid internships only go so far

Can't watch, can't download.

>samefagging this hard
DILATE, TRANNY

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>You’re the only one who said anything about your opinion
Look at the thread. That's not true at all.
>The only point we were making is that this is nothing at all like comic Joker based on freaking everything that’s come out.
We'll see when it's out.
>It doesn’t resemble him in he slightest.
Whatevs.
>If you think the movie is good then good for you but we’re not talking about that at all
Yeah, we're talking about the character.
>If you really think we can’t tell that they are not similar in the slightest then you really may just be a brainlet.
Or maybe you're the brainlet for failing to find even one similarity?

The character is nothing like comic joker is not an opinion but an observation retard. If you really think they’re similar then that’s on you. You’re the one claiming not enough has come out to be able to say that yet now you’re saying you can say they’re similar? Fucking idiot. If you don’t care then stop replying. You’re the one who started this by saying what has come out isn’t enough to tell what kind of character he is. Maybe not for your tiny brain but it’s definitely enough for us to they’re not alike at all.

>judges a movie by 1 min clips
spot the retard

this was boring. I will wait for the torrent and the memes

>The character is nothing like comic joker is not an opinion but an observation
And an incorrect one at that!
>If you really think they’re similar then that’s on you.
K
>You’re the one claiming not enough has come out to be able to say that yet now you’re saying you can say they’re similar?
Yep. We have not seen enough to say that he's nothing like Joker but we have seen enough to say he is at least a little bit like Joker.
>You’re the one who started this by saying what has come out isn’t enough to tell what kind of character he is.
Yep, and I stand by that. We have an idea of what this character is going to be in the full film, but the idea is not complete enough to proclaim no resemblance to the source whatsoever.
Just clarifying.
>Maybe not for your tiny brain but it’s definitely enough for us to they’re not alike at all.
Lol my IQ is higher than yours nitwit.

Probably you since that's literally how everyone judges a movie

The fuck does your retarded ass think trailers are?

The joker is an agent of chaos at his very core. That’s why he think killing people is funny. Imagine all these people making plans for the future not knowing the world is chaos anyway. Bang I shot that guy and ended his dreams. Isn’t that funny? That’s his mentality. That’s who he is at his core. That’s at least a little similar to Ledger’s. Chaos. This Joker is bullied and wants to get back at society. Wtf man if you think they’re similar then you have a lower IQ than my fucking dog.

absolutely BASED, the joker is totally right about society, women and immigrants btfo

Woah it's almost like this film is an origin story on how he became that Joker...

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>they all list Joaquin as the safest bet for best actor in the oscars
NO NO NOOOOO MARVELBROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

Also the massive demographic changes that are producing a lovely low trust society.

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That’s the point. His origin was that his family died in an accident while his dumb ass was robbing a bank which made him realize how chaotic life is. It’s all chaos. There are no rules. It wasn’t about getting bullied and getting back at society. He just thinks life is chaotic and finds that funny. This joker has anger in him because he was “mistreated”. Comic joker never had that anger and revenge angle. They’re nothing alike at their core idiot. Now why don’t you explain to me how you think they’re alike since you’re so adamant that they are?

You can't stop it lefty pol. The gamer rises

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>His origin was that his family died in an accident while his dumb ass was robbing a bank which made him realize how chaotic life is
what origin is this, never heard of it

heath joker looks scary/intimidating because heath was a huge chad irl

joaquin with those narrow shoulders and small frame you cant take seriously.

You’re not really supposed to find Phoenix’s Joker intimidating from what I can tell from the clips.

quora.com/Is-the-Joker-a-man-who-had-one-bad-day

he's misrepresenting it anyway

Then why are you arguing with people who have moron

I knew DCucks were retarded but I didn't think you could be THIS dumb

How am I misrepresenting it?

>Now why don’t you explain to me how you think they’re alike
Random dancing just for the hell of it is one similarity.
Concern for others being dissipated by being used/abused.

he robbed the bank for his family because he didn't see many other options
there's nothing in particular that suggests he became crazed because he "saw the chaos"
if anything, the chemicals in the vat could have tainted his mind all on their own

Funny how it didn't matter that TDK Joker didn't fall in a vat of chemicals because of Batman and simply wore makeup and cut his mouth, but now the same situation plus taking inspiration from The Killing Joke is unnaceptable

I’m just piercing this through his character throughout the comics though. He came out of that vat laughing and believing there is no order to things. That it’s all just chaos. It would make sense that it was his experiences in the past few days that made him believe that.

So any character who randomly dances is similar to the joker? K

I have read The Killing Joke, I just thought of his parents when I read "family" for some reason. Fuck you.

Uh-oh it looks like TIFF is scared of the DCuck reaction when their shit movie loses

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It’s effemme garbage. It is laughably bad, especially his faggot voice. I would be laughing if I wasn’t cringing

>He came out of that vat laughing and believing there is no order to things. That it’s all just chaos.
That's not in the comic. That's where you're misrepresenting it.

Learn to read
It’s not the origin but who the character is at his core. He’s not an angry victim of bullying. He’s an agent of chaos.

just wait until it releases ffs

Golden Lion

It is in the comic just not in the killing joke. I’m taking his character as a whole in the comics since the discussion is who he is compared to Arthur.

>He’s an agent of chaos.
what do you call this webm?

An dude taking revenge at the world because they “treated him like trash” and now they “get what they fucking deserve”. It was never about what people deserved in the comics it was just chaos.

>He’s an agent of chaos.
Hunh, so that's why his speeches to Batman are about authenticity and distinction, and why his fables about the scars make him out to be a sympathetic actor trying to stop others' pain. WTF Yea Forums just taught me something

>causes a wave of violent protests
>when asked about it, he says he doesn't give a fuck about the politics of it and just finds it funny
NOT MUH JOKER

Heath is still king

fuck this small faggy joker

Golden Lion baby

This is how I behaved with my ex right before I’d throw one to her gut and choke her and achieve catharsis then apologize and get my dick sucked

It’s clear where their motivations are coming from user and it’s very different.

joaquin is like 5'7 with a small narrow frame, a gust of wind could beat up this joker

Yeah because it’s funny. That’s why the story always changes. Because people want to hear a sympathetic story on why he turned evil. They need a reason. There’s no reason to chaos.

Joker was never about being tough.

You ready for The Joker... That's the fucking point of the movie.

Joker's character feeds off the audience. We watch him and he gets worse because of the eyes on him. We don't look away though.

The point is this character shouldn't be given a voice. The joke is the best way to do that is give him a movie - a voice.

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>Yeah because it’s funny.
bullshit
>Because people want to hear a sympathetic story on why he turned evil. They need a reason. There’s no reason to chaos.
Literal fucking headcanon.

Why does his story keep changing then?

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Marvel was basically dead before the movies came out. And their "villains" barely even rub up to some of DCs best.
Spiderman is the only good thing to come from marvel.

You want my headcanon? Because he never says why himself. Any reasoning beyond what's given is pure speculation.
But he's trying to teach them a lesson tailored to them, just like he does with Batman in the interrogation room.

Same these faggots keep accusing me of being a Disney shill, when I’m just a neet, I would be so fucking lucky

joker is still supposed to be able to hold his own in a melee fight even though batman is canonically physically stronger.

>dead
more like a lull

>bad trailer = bad movie
spot the double retard

>joker is still supposed to be able to hold his own in a melee fight
No! In TDKR he was 100% a weak faggot

Yeah that everyone is selfish and acts for their own self interest. His actions are still chaotic and he’s still doing things he finds amusing. As opposed to getting back at a society that abandoned him and treated him like trash.

95% of the time that is correct though

he really does wtf

You're a stupid person

cringe

in TDK he overpowers several cops and gangsters, he's not weak just because batman can beat him up

People always do this. Funniest is when they criticize the cgi in a leaked cam rip. That always gets me.

>Yeah that everyone is selfish and acts for their own self interest.
That's your opinion. There are more ways to interpret it that are equally or more valid.
>His actions are still chaotic
As he describes in his stories? No they aren't. They're rational.
>As opposed to getting back at a society that abandoned him and treated him like trash.
That's almost exactly what he implies in both his lie about his father and his wife. They are both tailored to an older man and a similarly aged woman, painting himself as a victim who tried to be a hero to someone and got burned.

Sure, the point is, 15 years ago barely anyone knew who even a fifth of those villains were. In fact I would even go as far as to say red skull and maybe thanos.
Meanwhile Lex Luthor, Joker, pretty much half of Batman's rogue gallery, is widely known and has been for nearly 50 years.

Huh? He can't beat Batman in a 1 on 1 fight, but it's not like Batman knocks him out in one punch or anything, he kind of holds his own for a minute. At the very least he seems resistant to damage.

how about you upload it to a less retarded hosting service you cunt

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>serious capeshit movies about villain origin stories shouldn't be allowed because incels are oppressing women and some retard shot up a movie theater seven years ago
seething roastie

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I wonder if he used Elliot Rodger's videos as prep. Especially since he ad-libbed the word "society" instead of "system" as it was in the script.

Your post implied MCU was THE savior. I'm saying there could have been other paths to similar success to come along had MCU not happened.

Have you ever considered that this new Joker is also an agent of chaos? We just get to see what made him that way.

It's not a CGI shitfest so it doesn't need to make a billion to make money.

The interview scene is pure cringe
The stair scene which is in the trailer is just bad cringe too. It’s all cringe

I don't really see another way. Marvel had always been the weaker of the two properties until the movies and they definitely couldn't go anywhere in the comic medium while DC is around.
could you explain?

>abused
>raised by single mother

he reminds me of andy kaufman

Fox was already doing a somewhat competent job.
Any other studio could have come along and picked up the properties they didn't own and made something of them, or Fox could have gobbled up more and somehow got their shit together to make really good films.

Sure it is disneymom

expand your vocabulary

I'm fairly confident that either
A) You didn't want to like this movie beforehand
Or
B) You really underestimate a cam rip's ability to make a movie less enjoyable than it is.

If the Spiderman films did better I could see it. But I doubt it would have ever reached the almost fever pitch it has now

nigger its been taken down

You see when you watch a MCU movie the first thing you think is " wow this is PURE GARBAGE" but that's because you're judging it as a movie. You need to understand they shit out a movive every three months and for every mocie there's a 2 month marketing campaign that costs as much as the movie. This means people are being bombarded with MCU marketing all around the year for 10 years in a row. People say why can't any other studio make a cinematic universe like marvel? Well it's pretty easy, just dump around 7 billions in marketing for a decade and you're golden. The fact that movies like Aquaman, Deadpool or Joker can make the same amounts of money than their MCU equivalents makes you think of the abysmal quality of these MCU flick

Don't forget the kino japanese tv spot
youtu.be/rH5XVDd9Md0

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>Do you remember every murder you see on the news?
Would I remember a CLOWN WHO STARTED RIOTS AND SHOT A MAN ON LIVE TV?
Yes, you dufus

Why should I expand my vocabulary? Should I find something synonymous with cringe to express what the term “cringe” succinctly and precisely expresses? It’s my bodily reaction to seeing repulsive acting and directing

No. That's the power of the female gaze

And you're right, your extremely limited vocabulary is perfectly coherent with your shit taste. A retarded zoomer yes, but a CONSISTENT retarded zoomer at that

KIINO DESU

I was actually genuinely interested in what the hype was about. I like a good antihero story, and I really love edgy shit, it’s just overacted and way too feminine.

you almost

>I really love edgy shit
This movie didn't make promises to be very edgy.

>shadman

I think you accidentally put coherent instead of consistent, but see you used the right word a second time. I’ll reason this is because of autocorrect
Though don’t project onto me that I’m a zoomed, when that’s the demographic most excited for this movie. I’m a reasonable person, had no expectations for this movie, was interested regardless, and it looks like contemporary trash. That’s all, don’t get so butt blasted I don’t like your homo joker

That was half the hype user, a new edgy, human joker. He’s just a whiny efemme guy, with the emotional development of a child

>edgy
Either we're using two different words or we saw two different trailers.

His stories aren't real user. And it's pretty clear that the lesson he wants to teach is that the only way to live your life is without rules. That's very obvious as he keeps repeating it. Hence chaos. Since rules means order.

>the only way to live your life is without rules
that has nothing to do with his stories

If what made him that way is society then he is an agent of revenge. Not of chaos. He represents getting back at a society that does not care about people like him as opposed to representing futility in trying to find order in your life since he, and the randomness and chaos of life, will fuck it up for the lulz anyway.

Because his stories aren't real. Just like these rules you make up to have order in your life (according to him, obviously I disagree as Batman has a different opinion). His stories don't show it his actions and dialogue does.

half the memes were about it being edgy, not talking about the trailers, but word of mouth hype. Not edgy like >*unsheates katana*
obviously, but it is edgy for a teen cringe lord
>”step into my twisted reality”

>pulls stats out the ass
spot the triple retard

>half the memes were about it being edgy
and who makes the memes? dumbasses who have a hard time understanding what they're watching?
>word of mouth hype
so yeah, exactly that

Nonetheless, it is the epitome of cringe, the only expectation was maybe some cool edge. That’s it, it wouldn’t matter if that wasn’t met. It just matters that the acting is atrocious and to throw in a scene like the stair one? That shows the choices in direction will probably be just as bad.