I really love the original and it had everything I wanted but this is dogshit supreme: >Cooper spends the sum total of 15 out of 18 episodes as a spastic drooling over his paperwork >A whole plotline about a casino and insurance scam and a family caught up in it that I didn't fuckign give a shit about >Episode after episode following new characters like the headteacher who I wasn't remotely interested in >Barely any twin peaks (the scenes there with Hawk and shit were really good though) >5 minutes of Ben Horne cucking himself out off that brunette milf >5 minutes of best girl Audrey arguing with her midget husband, then that weird mirror scene, so I am guessing she is still fucked up from her bank explosion >17 parts of following Evil Coop around watching his bad weave flow in the desert breeze and him kill a bunch of dudes for coordinates >Following Jacobi and Eyepatch chick for no reason >Norma's diner plot for no reason >No kino Bobby and Shelley romance anymore >Amanda Seyfried and her bf plotline (I hate the actor that plays him and it went fucking nowhere in the end) >Whole thing could have been a 4 or 5 parter with immediate return of Coop and him using his FBI skills to kill Evil Coop
Please someone tell me why this fucking series gets such high praise. PLEASE, for the love of GOD explain what I am missing.
Season 3 really is the biggest pleb filter. How can you not love the silly adventures of the super endearing Dougie, kino Vegas brothers, seeing all those old faces return and getting a bit more insight to th lore. I mean he actually manage to make something that I simultaneously something new and the same familiar thing. I honestly really wonder what is wrong with people who liked the first two seasons and not the third. It was everything we could have ever dreamed of, pun intended. It's Lynch, what did you expect? Answers and everything laid out and explained?
Ethan Reyes
>NOOOOOO LYNCH YOU CANT MAKE MOVIES OR SHOWS THAT I CANT UNDERSTAND OR HAVE A DEFINITE MEANING!!!!
Joshua Parker
>I honestly really wonder what is wrong with people who liked the first two seasons and not the third. My dad was utterly confused by the third season. But he's like 70 now and he can't really understand new concepts.
Jack Hughes
why do you think it is kino? these lynchfags above who I shall address as the faggots they are momentarily are wrong. Seriously want to hear your thoughts user.
you have no response or justification, you just watched it becasue it was Lynch and then declared you love it. Prove me wrong, I dare you.
Ethan Rivera
it was fun :)
Austin Cooper
This is the only way to watch Lynch kinos. If OP watches Inland Empire he'll never wake up from his nightmare he calls life.
Tyler Lewis
NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE EDDIE VEDDER CONFIRMING COOP NEVER GETS HIS MIND BACK
>seeing all those old faces return and getting a bit more insight to th lore I would have loves Twin PEaks season 3 set in Twin Peaks washington. Instead we got some South Dakota/Vegas bullshit for half of it. Good god give me the old faces, please.
>simultaneously something new and the same familiar thing It wasn't though, it was just Andy and HAwk and some other lads that got inserted back in to let you know it was TP.
Nicholas Lewis
Nah, it was literally the pinnacle of kino
Leo Foster
user-chan I've seen Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me,but not a single episode of Twin Peaks.Why? Cause I'm satisfied with the experience I got from watching his film.
Jaxson Nelson
>Answers and everything laid out and explained? No I am not a baby and don't need hand holding. but please, give me something more than a retarded insurance salesman. I want Cooper back. I got him for five minutes.
Starting to suspect this approach is what is going wrong to be honest. Yet TP 1 and 2 were not like that. I genuinely loved piecign together the mystery and finding out who BOB was.
I don't know how this is supposed to relate to my post or much else I have said in this threat mate.
Bentley Harris
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAVID LYNCH CANT BE AMBIGUOUS ABOUT THE TRUE MEANING OF TWIN PEAKS WHY? C-CAUSE HE CANT.THATS WHY!
Colton Richardson
Season 3 is the best. The original seasons were bloated with pointless soap opera story-lines I don't care about.
Eli Roberts
>retarded insurance salesman. I want Cooper back. I got him for five minutes. It's too bad that's all he was to you. I love coop because of the character and the amazing acting, Dougie was a pure representation of coops childlike wonder and the acting was just as amazing, I wanted Coop back in the start, then I just fell in love with Dougie. I think that's what Lynch was going for and as with everything he makes, you either love it or you don't.
Nolan Barnes
That was kind of the point. It made fun of those 80s and 90s soap operas. The Return = FWWM > season 1 > season 2 imo
Lucas Lee
You call twin peaks shit and having no plot,but yet you can't understand their isn't a single linear story to any of projects. Just cause you can't comprehend what you're watching doesn't mean Lynch is shit Director. That's the whole reason his movies always bomb in box office,we hate and fear what we can't understand.
Benjamin Thompson
That's only fun to watch for so long though. After a point, you're just watching a soap opera.
Nolan Davis
I just started season 3 yesterday after binging 1,2 and FWWM in a week. First 2 episodes were pure kino. Really excited to see where the rest of the season goes.
Logan Walker
Have fun and just enjoy it.
Evan Lee
>would have loves Twin PEaks season 3 set in Twin Peaks washington. Instead we got some South Dakota/Vegas bullshit for half of it. Good god give me the old faces, please. That's your problem, you wanted what it was, which it could never be 27 years later. Who cares where it is when it is kino and Lynch from beginning to end?
Bentley Jenkins
You should leave before you get spoiled honestly All I'm going to say is that a certain episode will blow away every expectation
Justin Sullivan
>lynch is shit director quote me saying this
>plot needs to be linear quote me again
I disliked it, I didn't need it to be some run of the mill whodunnit to like it, I like other Lynch.
This but for dougie's soap opera life, not the Hornes or the Palmers.
I really don't care about the love triangle involving Josie. Those scenes drag so much.
Daniel Wright
leave young, charming, handsome, caring coop alone. no bully plz.
when he turned down that sexpot audrey when she was in his bed I simultaneous smacked my forehead in despair and wanted to go shake his honorable hand.
Luke Lewis
If anyone but Lynch had made it, people would be calling it a pretentious dreary load of shit which is what it is.
Cooper Sullivan
this. I do, having said all this, appreciate the cheekiness and humour under the surface. watching dougie in his office is clearly not suppose to be taken all that seriously but holy shit is it a fucking chore overall.
>There is a point of view >People offer this point of view >I don't like it >POV must be wrong
Luke Perez
I was talking more about the first season.
Thomas Howard
Most people would yes, but I'm not talking about most people, I'm talking about proffessional critics and high faluting faggots like people on here who suckle on his arse every time he poots or takes a shit.
For people like this, if Lynch does it, then it must be good - he is beyond reproach. I'm deeply suspicious of anyone who watches The Return and thinks "Yep, that was perfect, nothing bullshit about that." The furore that surrounds it is borderline cult behaviour and utterly nauseating in its blind sycophantry.
There are many moments in The Return that wouldn't look out of place in a Neil Breen movie. Yet when Breen does it we laugh and when Lynch does it we should nod our heads in wonder.
Jaxson Sanchez
I didn't say The Return was perfect but frankly the only part i didn't like was the one punch man.
Blake Foster
Literally the only good bit
Chase Phillips
>There are many moments in The Return that wouldn't look out of place in a Neil Breen movie. That's a nonsensical comparison. You can't just compare any film maker you don't like to Neil Breen, as if the comparison is self-evident.
kek I am the griping op and I actualyl like me ol' cockney lad and his story. A tale of a young lad stumbling home drunk from a few lagers is the only bvelieveable set up for an Englishman's tale desu.
t. british op
Luke Kelly
There is unconventional and non-linear narrative and then there is boring nonsense.
If it didn't have a narrative at all or it didn't matter what it was, then why not drop the whole insurance arc entirely and just give me Dougie hijinks?
Nathan Howard
Lynch without co-writer restrain just vomits artsy nonsense on screen. You're either into artsy nonsense or not. There's also peer pressure into liking it because muh Lynch. Now imagine how fast first season would be cancelled and forgotten if it was all like Returns.
Ethan Morris
Why would you ever be into David Lynch if you don't like artsy nonsense though? The Elephant Man, maybe.
Luke Scott
I enjoyed it but I still agree with most of what you said
Matthew Allen
Based
Oliver Scott
Hardly nonsensical, I can see what he means. Both works feature >poor visual composition >awkward languid pacing >cheap ugly digital aesthetic >obscurantist self indulgent drivel
Carter Hernandez
Realize that this is not just twin peaks (vastly the least lynchian thing hes done) bit a culmination of ALL his past work. If anything this feels more like how Mulholland Dr the series would've been if the pilot wasn't rejected then made a film.
Op hee, and you know what, there was some enjoyment from me with it too, but by the last 10 mintues of each episode I was desparate to get through it. And for 5 mintues pockets throughout too.
Isaiah Morales
>Now imagine how fast first season would be cancelled and forgotten if it was all like Returns. this
Gabriel Brown
Hate to say it but Lunched David lunch lol
Gavin Kelly
I loved it, if Lynch tried doing the original show again, it would’ve failed and not captured the magic from nearly 30 years ago. The Return was a modern update of what Twin Peaks originally did, the original in the 90s was unlike anything else on TV and changed the landscape of TV. The Return is also unlike anything on TV, whether it will change the format going forward has yet to be seen.
Ethan Stewart
My only major complaint is that as great as Robert Forster was as Sherrif Truman’s brother, the show really did lack the original actor and his history and chemistry with Cooper wouldve strengthened that plot line a lot.
Andrew Clark
but it didn't capture the original magic. Maybe the new one will push people to make new and exciting stuff that really takes its time and stretches out rather than the obsession with mini series and the BBC's 3 episode per season format (please let it stop). But no, I don't see it as continuing TP whilst reinvigorating television. Maybe the latter, but it isn't the TP I know and love.
William Martin
This. This was a project for Lynch to dump all his ideas into, the ideas that he's built up for years but no-one would finance. The fact that it's ostensibly a Twin Peaks sequel is incidental to him. It should have been something else.
Dominic Cooper
It wasn't supposed to be some nostalgic throwback, it's a new thing. If you want the original show, watch season 1 and season 2.
Daniel Wood
IMAGINE BEING LYNCHED THIS FUCKING HARD. KINO CRINGE POST.
>mysteries upon mysteries >quirky and surreal humour >riffing on the kind of TV people are familiar with in the current era >themes of nostalgia and the corruption of innocence >being generally the most bizarre thing to have ever been on TV How is The Return not quintessentially Twin Peaks?
Carter Scott
I enjoyed it purely because /tpg/ was right there with me watching it
Audrey was a tulpa. She was fucking Billy, who was the guy that Richard stole the truck from. Billy never shows up to meet Andy. Then later in the episode a guy runs into the Double R and ask if anyone has seen Billy implying that Richard possibly killed him after taking the truck. There's also a scene with two girls at the Roadhouse talking and one of their names is Tina. In the Audrey scenes with her husband, he is talking on the phone and mentions Tina, implying that Tina is Billy's daughter. On the phone, he was informed of what Richard did and couldn't bring himself to tell Audrey who is in a poor mental state. She exhibits all the behavior of a Tulpa. Like Diane's tulpa she is nervous and even proclaims, "I feel like I'm somebody else." She even repeats a line that the Arm says in the lodge, which Diane's tulpa also did.
Charles Cruz
It makes sense that Mr. C would create a tulpa for Audrey since she was someone Coop was close to much like Diane.
>want Cooper back. I got him for five minutes. That was the entire fucking point
Julian Lopez
The entire original run parodies soap operas that dominated TV at the time
Elijah Torres
Yes
Michael Bailey
YET ANOTHER NORMALFAG BLOWN THE FUCK OUT T F O
Jeremiah Rodriguez
This is true, but only if you've watched the first two seasons.
Cameron Fisher
>That was the entire fucking point fucking why though? What utility is there to denying me the fucking protag for 16 hours?
>Audrey was a tulpa Is this canon? I don't know what the rest of the post has to do with it user, I picked up on Billy and Richard and the truck and the girl Tina (the girl in teh booth actually said Tina was her mum's name iirc so possibly a different friend/relative of Billy's and not his daughter).
So is Audry still in her coma but stuck in the lodge/waiting room? Is she still pregnant with richard or did richard get born via tulpa audrey in the real world?
Julian Edwards
this
Robert Sullivan
By being completely detached from it's predecessors style, tone and subject matter
Asher Perez
Nope. 80's soap operas fell out of style. 1950's nostalgia fell out of style. It would be less faithful to it's own tone, if it did that stuff in 2017.
Zachary Morales
Absolutely
Cooper Peterson
>(the girl in teh booth actually said Tina was her mum's name iirc so possibly a different friend/relative of Billy's and not his daughter)
My bad. Been a while since watching. Audrey's behavior when talking to her husband is very similar to Diane's tulpa. Both of them seem to become nervous and questioning their existence right before they are poofed back into the lodge. Both say lines that are first heard in the lodge. Diane says "Lets Rock" in a scene, while Audrey says "The little girl who lived down the lane." Both of these lines are said by The Arm in the lodge. Audrey even says to her husband, "I feel like I'm somebody else." Her husband tells her "It's existentialism 101."
If you want to get a better understanding of what I'm poorly able to communicate watch this youtu.be/YyfcCnU5hj8
it's the most realistic explanation in my opinion
Grayson Robinson
>Almost finished watching season 1 >one episode left >nothing weird happened apart from the red room >it's just boring drama
When the fuck am I going to be lynched ? Why was this popular I'm not baiting btw
The original series is a bit of a slog. FWWM and The Return are way better.
Zachary Smith
I'll never understand these arguments >if someone else made it or if it wasn't brand X then you wouldn't like it! No, if Lynch didn't make it then it wouldn't have Lynch's unique and specific form of surrealist horror and humor. In that case I wouldn't have liked it. People who make these arguments seem to be completely unable to discern an artist's hands within their art. As if all works of art could just be made by someone else and remain exactly the same, which is just a completely retarded assertion. The utility in denying you comfy twin peaks nostalgia cash-in for 16 hours should be self evident.
Liam Sanders
That's interesting, I wondered why she phrased it as "girl down the lane" when she was bitchslapping Charlie. I wonder when the Tulpa got swapped for the real Audrey. It could have been the coma but then how did Richard come along? I will dwelve on this information user, thank you.
Anthony Barnes
Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that plays during the Twin Peaks finale. It confirms Agent Cooper never gets his mind back. (Pic is evil Cooper) Listen youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM
>No, if Lynch didn't make it then it wouldn't have Lynch's unique and specific form of surrealist horror and humor. In that case I wouldn't have liked it People who say "if it were not lynch then X" do not mean what you mean. They mean if it was exactly, frame for frame, a Lynch but it had another name on it then it would not be well recieved. That part is true. Obviously you are right, it is were not Lynch is could never have come to fruition the way it did, but that is not the point of the thought experiment.
>The utility in denying you comfy twin peaks nostalgia cash-in for 16 hours should be self evident. Well nope it is not. Never known someone make a 3rd in a list only to make it so completely different.
Nathaniel Rivera
Of its evil Cooper why didn't he kill those two at the cafe
Nathaniel Carter
Because people were really invested in the murder mystery and these peoples' lives. The Lynchening is a gradual process.
David White
Is this canon? If so then what was the whole showdown with Cockney glove bro and Bob? When did real coop get sent back to the waiting room?
Brayden Jenkins
*If it's
Aiden Cruz
The implication is that if other people did what Lynch did, it wouldn't be popular, which is obviously untrue, when there's a whole market for off-brand Lynchian stuff like Beneath the Silver Lake, or Wayward Pines, or Deadly Premonition.
Austin Roberts
>plot relevant lyrics >singer is mumbly and just barely comprehensible AAAAAH. I hate being music autistic.
Jose Green
Richard is the real Cooper, it's just Cooper with his single-minded determination amplified so it's his entire personality, the opposite of Dougie who was all childlike wonder. The doppelganger went through a similar transformation. At the end of S2 he was a manic laughing fool, 25 years later, he never cracks a smile.
Bentley Turner
No that's not the implication retard, how can you be this dense?
Jace Sanders
Oof stopped reading very soon, liking twin peaks and not the return is the ultimate tell of a plebeian
John Miller
There is no way you can expect anything to be like TP:TR though. If Silver Lake had stretched out for that long without ever actually playing their protag. It would never have been made. You know for a fact that if the credits were different and Cole was played by any other director, it would have not been considered as highly.
>Richard is the real cooper How do you figure that? Cooper was always living some split life which is why he was so impressed by coffee and donuts but was also super dedicated to the job, and Dougie was his child side and Richard (after some sex magic) was his serious side?
Angel Cox
>Following Jacobi and Eyepatch chick for no reason >Norma's diner plot for no reason >Amanda Seyfried and her bf plotline (I hate the actor that plays him and it went fucking nowhere in the end) Earlier in your post you complained about not enough Twin Peaks scenes
Joseph Wright
I don't know. If it was a fresh series people might have had more patience to enjoy it for what it was, instead of being butthurt that their favourite characters weren't on-screen constantly.
Leo Sullivan
>if it was exactly, frame for frame... had another name on it Did you not read my post you subhuman worthless sack of shit? >as if all works of art could just be made by someone else and remain exactly the same, which is a completely retarded assertion You are a worthless human being and a bad person
Nicholas Watson
I just don't see the point of making the butthurt a possibility when you can do a new season or a spiritual successor.
>>as if all works of art could just be made by someone else and remain exactly the same obviously they do not remain the same, that is not my point. Have you read my post, you retard subhuman?
I was saying that, IF you could make the exact same series, and you just put a different director on the credits, you would get it panned by critics and the audience alike. Lynch should do that one time, just pretend he was never on set and put no name son his film, watch how it gets trashed.
Cameron Barnes
You can either make something crowd pleasing and bland, or try to make something special and risk pissing people off. A lot of people would have been happier with the TFA version of Twin Peaks season 3, but would that really have been better? Once you've brought back all of the characters, and had your nostalgic pie and coffee moment, is there anything actually interesting about such a series? Will people still be discussing it ten years down the line?
Jonathan Russell
# >the only alternative to how Twin Peaks: The Return turned out was a TFA style nostalgia wankfest Asinine argument
Gabriel Richardson
this
Jaxson Green
I disagree with OP and I loved The Return, but the >LYNCHED replies any time everyone voices criticism towards Lynch are starting to remind me of >Git gud replies. Take that as you will.
Adam Jones
The Return is perhaps the biggest pleb filter I know, second only to The Last Jedi
Charles Diaz
Considering "I wanted more of muh characters", and "I wanted it to be more like the old show" are the only real complaints you hear out of people, I can only assume that's what they wanted. What would you have done?
Nathaniel Jackson
The return was the greatest thing of all time and what was surprising is I did not see the kino that was coming which made it all the better. What a ride.
Nathaniel Jackson
90% less dribbling retard
Chase Peterson
That's exactly what is, that's what it's always been. It's not an arguement it's just a meme. At a certain point if you keep posting in the face any and all criticism, you look like a retard
They wanted it to be like a 25th season of a soap opera that never ended. That's not necessarily a rehash, as all those long-running soap operas prove.
Isaiah Cox
It was too indulgent. Forcing in random bands Lynch likes for every episode was a major clue as to how production worked. The atom bomb sequence was also pretty weak. At least we got a classic Laura scream at the end, despite all the female cast being underused.
Everything in the series other than 3 was good... And the second half of S2.
Jackson Fisher
1>3>FWWM>2
Season 2 does have the most kino scene in the series though, when Bobby's father tells him about the dream he had.
Ayden Lopez
I'm so glad you agree about that most kino scene. I would personally say FWWM > 1 > 3 > 2 but that scene in S2E1 is so affecting. I love the whole series btw.
Jacob Roberts
Yeah, me too. At least we agree that 2 is the weakest. It has some really great scenes and ended up being the foundation for what Twin Peaks is iconic for in pop culture, as well as what is parodied the most. But there is just so much utter shit in it. Especially James and his shitty milf sub-plot, as well as Audrey and Billy Zane.
Mason Turner
basedjak is the sign of insecurity and no argument.
Carson Martin
>Please someone tell me why this fucking series gets such high praise It does? I thought the consensus was that it's trash. That's why nobody watched it.
Parker Reyes
>being a woman who watches kino with your feelings
Levi White
You have the wrong assumption. Men watch kino with their feelings, women watch flicks with self insertion fantasies
>This was a vision, fresh and clear as a mountain stream - the mind revealing itself to itself. In my vision, I was on the veranda of a vast estate, a palazzo of some fantastic proportion. There seemed to emanate from it a light from within - this gleaming radiant marble. I had known this place. I had in fact been born and raised there. This was my first return, a reunion with the deepest wellsprings of my being. Wandering about, I was happy that the house had been immaculately maintained. There had been added a number of additional rooms, but in a way it blended so seamlessly with the original construction, one would never detect any difference. Returning to the house's grand foyer, there came a knock at the door. My son was standing there. He was happy and care-free, clearly living a life of deep harmony and joy. We embraced - a warm and loving embrace, nothing withheld. We were in this moment one. My vision ended. I awoke with a tremendous of optimism and confidence in you and your future. That was my vision; it was of you. I'm so glad to have had this opportunity to share it with you. I wish you nothing but the very best, always.
Transcendent television. I agree with you both that season 2 was the worst. Season 1>FWW=Season 3>Season 2 I also feel that season 3, while still great, could have been the best season in TV history had it been 4 episodes or so shorter.
Candy is top qt Naomi Watts has reached her prime. Shelly and Sheryl Lee are still going strong after all these years.
Adrian Torres
>when you see it
Ethan Harris
Is it Bob? What the fuck
Ayden Miller
Final Scene of Season 3 > FWWM > S3 Episode 8 > Season 3 > Pilot > Finale of Season 2 > First half of Season 2 > Season 1 > Second Half of Season 2
Cooper Kelly
Season 1 is top-tier
Isaac Adams
Everything above the last half of Season 2 is amazing, and even the last half of season 2 is really good.
Charles Perry
it's Bob
Ian Phillips
>Michael Anderson accuses Lynch of rape and murder >Lynch makes midget the murderer
What a petty old fart. He probably did it btw
Robert Sanchez
The bands were there so Lynch could fuck a lot of young women.
Ryan Sanders
how the hell do you niggers actually like this part? Im genuinely curious
Easton White
What a slog to sit through. Every scene was so dull and went on way too long. People say lynch doesn't do symbolism, but FWWM had the stupid TV explode. This one had the demon emerge from the magic box to kill the couple making out. He's such a hack. Just listen to his music or watch his cartoon.
Sebastian Phillips
Is that in the original? Terrifying if so
Alexander Hernandez
It was the best episode of the Return, but can't hold a candle to Season 2 E1 and SE2 finale
Julian Wright
ike the spike did nothing wrong
William Rivera
>people say lynch doesn’t do symbolism Who?
Jason Russell
BASED honest poster you got lynched posters are retarded and literally just say they liked it causemajority of people are dont
Henry Bell
L Y N C H E D Nigger
Austin Phillips
>Judy-ism If you look at the acting scene in Mulholland Drive, as Betty is walking out she says thank you to everyone expect the woman to her right.
I'm a huge Lynch fan, but the LYNCHED dickriders are just obnoxious. I'm sure Lynch himself would bemoan these automatons blindly approving of everything he does
Jack James
>that scene in the return with ed eating in front of the window >his reflection is wigging out in such a way that you'd never notice unless you knew it was there fucking spooky man. I also remember being genuinely terrified at BOB'S reflection in the pilot the first time I saw it. I knew it was in there somewhere, but had forgotten when my eyes stumbled upon it.
Connor Morales
>bob is brought back as a big bubble that is punched by some british guy instead of just having Ray Wise play bob as he was the last person for bob to posses.
It’s not worth engaging with brainlets seriously, hence, LYNCHED. If you can’t tell The Return wasn’t one of the best television shows of all time, you simply aren’t worth it. Yes, we comprehend your issues, it isn’t the same enough, it isn’f satisfying enough, it “made no sense”.
You aren’t worth my time. I hope one day you can see the beauty of it, but it isn’t my place to force you. LYNCHED.
Jackson Collins
>Ruining the beauty of FWWM + his death in Season 2 Yikes.
as expected, no attempt at real communication or proving points, yet im supposedly the retard that didn't get it
Ryan Ross
you're right. having bob being a .png file stretch over a bubble which is punch 4 times in a wood paneled office building was clearly the superior choice
It will take years to mentally unpack the dougie jones plotline for me
Jason Morales
>still can't formulate a cogent argument about why they like the show Reluctance to engage betrays a fear of exposing your shallow sensibilities. I liked the return but I'm not going to pretend it's perfect. I can at least make a case as to what works and what doesn't because I see it as a work of art with aims and intents like any other, not some ineffable mystical artifact from the Lynch-god somehow exempted from criticism the way a lot of LYNCHED fags seem to.
I would love to see more discussion of the series because I think it merits it, but all I see are either dickriders circlejerking specific moments and waifufagging or people bashing on it, neither really giving much of an argument
Aaron Howard
>no, we are NOT gonna talk about Judy What was he trying to tell us?
Carson Collins
It filtered me hard ngl
Christopher Phillips
>BAWWWWWW IT WASN'T THE EXACT SAME AS PREVIOUS SEASONS
How about instead of watching television, which you are clearly not suited for, you hang yourself?
That would've made the scene itself better in a vacuum, but would have totally neutered the feeling of pic related. It was a set up - a sleight of hand. Make you feel like what you're seeing can't be real, and then deliver on that promise with a kick to the gut. It's the kind of emotional storytelling Lynch does best. That said I would kill for some more Ray Wise. If we ever get a season 4 I hope he's in it.
just because i'm questioning you loyalists regarding one part of one episode doesn't mean i disliked The Return as a whole why don't you explain to me why this segment is regarded so highly? the only conclusion i can come to is you like it because it's different and a "pleb filter" it's meandering and insulting to the audience's time investment
Robert Reed
A reasonable discussion is a reasonable discussion. If you want to discuss what something could mean or theorycraft, that's its own thing. If you're just gonna complain about NOT MUH CHERRY PIE you're just gonna be shitposted.
Jeremiah Young
I heard someone doing a radio review of The OA season 2 and he basically said it did everything that Twin Peaks The Return was trying to do but better
Fuck that guy, but I am curious, is The OA any good?
Noah Perry
Don't worry user. Part 8 is great, but it's nowhere near the best in S3. It's the plebian answer to "what's the best episode" 17, 11, and 18 are all easily superior.
Camden Williams
It's the most backstory you get in the entire series and in a kinesthetic sense it may be Lynch's most effecting work.
Xavier Fisher
First season was the definition of "okay". It keeps you coming back because it seems like it's building to something worthwhile, but ultimately falls a little flat. There's near-kino moments throughout, but it never actually reached that status for me. I can't comment on season 2 because by the time it came out I didn't care anymore. I have heard season 2 is good, but the lackluster first season = a "can't recommend" from me
>muh backstory oh okay so it's for retards that want things explained, yet you point to everyone that dislikes it and pretend that they're the ones who need to be filtered the mystery is the fun of the show and you idiots are the real plebs
Aaron Russell
Nice brainlet reading. Crumbs make the mystery worthwhile. The orgasm of the search for meaning. Episode 8 doesn't spell out anything, but it does lend the most context to people who actually can use their brain and pay attention.
Robert Ramirez
If I say yes will I look smart?
Jeremiah Wright
i got a kino screensaver or two if you want more brain blow cooms, champ
Nicholas Green
All his faggot fans
Jace Young
Sounds like you've been talking to retards.
Ryder Phillips
>Episode 8 was just pretty screensavers I rest my case, you aren't worth my time. You've completely justified LYNCHED posters.
Chase Miller
youz a foo feat. 2eazy
Dylan Anderson
Not really on topic but do you think we'll ever get more lynch Kino or is he done? Pretty sure zoomer's despise him so the chances are getting worse by the day.
Daniel Brown
i turned it off after 5minutes..
Jace Lopez
I'm betting Twin Peaks is done, he got his recognition for his Kino, finally. Will this be his swan song? I don't feel like this is the case, there wasn't a sense of finality to it all, but you never know.
Jacob Campbell
>retards itt arguing over what parts of TP are better than the others who cares, it's all good. if you cant just get into the vibe and enjoy the ride for what it is with all of its highs and lows, you're doing it wrong. all the goofy campy soap opera shit juxtaposed with the dark fantasy elements are what makes the show kino, a perfect blend of light and dark.
did anyone here read the books too? the secret diary audiobook is gut-wrenching
The fact that you think it's boring nonsense is what makes you retarded. You should have known after FWWM and his subsequent films that he was never going to go back to that cheesy soap opera form of storytelling.
If you can't appreciate the artform that David uses, then just admit you're not a fan of his work. Otherwise, stick to your linear soaps.
Elijah White
Unironically "Lynched"
Come back when you've matured a bit, kiddo
Jose Ortiz
I hope we get one last send-off, either a shorter finale season or another movie. You can do mental gymnastics to make the S3 finale scene feel thematically satisfying as THE ending, but I still want one last ride. There are still a few loose ends to tie up and Coop deserves a proper ending one way or the other.
>do terrible unsatisfying stupid shit >get defended Lynch doesn't have a vagina you don't have to protect him from criticism
Owen Richardson
I knocked off Inland Empire in a single viewing, all mysteries noted and analyzed, packed in with the rest for future musing.
Jaxson Campbell
Anyone else think Lynch was letting us in on some big fucking secrets here? I mean saying the Atom bomb opened a gate that allowed these other dimensional creatures into this world...I dunno. I think Lynch KNOWS.
How many times must we remind you that if you don't like Dougie Jones then you never really understood the character of Cooper and are a complete pleb?
I feel that Crazy Clown Time and The Pink Room are essentially both heavy David Lynch guitar riffs that are duplicates of one another and both imply gang rape.
Adam Jones
Because you're trapped like the Lost Girl if you're watching that shit on a CRT. Turned that shit off when it came out, everyone in 2005 or whatnot was like NEW LYNCH TV HUUUUUUUUGE and it's like "What?". Glad I waited until after The Return to watch Inland Empire so those fucking rabbits could have maximum meaning.
Fuck out of here, he was an actor on the fucking show during that time reading lines and reacting to shit, and going on Letterman and shit asking people to write letters to Bob Iger begging them not to cancel the show.
I hope the shot of a naked woman's back doesn't trigger the American janitors on this board, considering you can't see any tits, ass, or literally anything
Neither is Twin Peaks: The Return or Lost Highway or what the fuck ever, he's always got people. He often writes with another man and works closely with women to edit and ensure fidelity to script.
Jose Turner
I'm still not buying your book, Frost.
Dylan Hill
Well you're probably one of the types making a stink earlier about how there's nothing in mid/late season 2 worth watching. Except Major Briggs is the domain of Mark Frost, and he's highly important, and his tale is told during season 2 and in Mark Frost's book.
Logan Cook
>emptiness you lack perception.
Joshua Evans
Cera's scene is so cringe. It's so clear he's improvising and not doing a great job at it. I like the idea behind his character but in practice that scene is hard to watch for the wrong reasons
Charles Ross
The pinnacle of television. I honestly was astounded how good it was.
Luke Hall
Everything that wasn't Bobby and Audrey's scenes with her husband was not worth the time wasted. >Audrey, I'm so tired
If you don't like dougie jones you don't understand life. Dougie is who we should all strive to be. If there were more Dougies in the world and fewer Coopers/Mr. Cs, there would be a lot less suffering. Coop means well, but trying to change that which you cannot only leads to heartache and pain.
Christopher Jones
What was the point of Seyfried and her boyfriend? They also killed Richard Horne off too early. You think they’re setting him up as a future Bob or something?
Jayden Hall
>I am the Bozo poster You are basado
Justin White
Part of what made the original series transcendent was its incorporation of disparate genre tropes which when coupled with his classic Lynchian surreal horror emphasized the best elements of both styles. Ironically when it's ALL Lynchian surrealism it feels more watered down because there'd no baseline of normalcy to return to. Even the scenes that aren't horror, like the Dougie scenes, are still relentlessly surreal in their way
Mason Diaz
>he doesn't think cera doing a shitty lispy brando impression is hilarious
My dharma is the road. Your dharma... [gestures towards a gay bathhouse] May the ass rise to meet your dick
Charles Jenkins
I watched it on my phone at a couple layovers it was pretty good.
Ian Ward
Take that stick out of your ass and stop taking things so seriously
Jace Torres
I found that the relentless nature of the Lynchian horror actually worked just as well but in the reverse. Every bit of clarity or light, no matter how small, was amplified to 2000% because you've been conditioned against getting your dessert spoonfed to you. The ANTI nostalgia reboot.
that shit was so bizarre. honestly that little midget was weirder than episode 8
Nolan Jones
This is exactly how I felt about it. Binge watched it expecting some Twin Peaks-level kino, got burned by the disastrous last couple of episodes. It sets itself up with a great premise, great themes, great performances and just throws it all away in service of some absolutely embarrassing moments and shoehorned resolution that felt like it was trying to be topical more than anything else. Ended ip hating the show because I felt misled by its promise
Ryan Johnson
Best part of the show >Existentialism 1. 0. 1.
Elijah Morgan
delicious bait
Nicholas Johnson
The Return ends with the dream ending. Cooper achieved his goal at long last and everyone is awake. We don't see what happens after because the real world could be totally alien.
>What year is this? >Blood curdling scream >End
Is this the most kino ending of any show ever?
Levi Fisher
It fucking LYNCHED me all the way. Loved season 3 tho
Logan Sanchez
You lack a working brain
Jose Clark
>if only we were all dribbling retards I'm going to guess you're a dribbling retard
James Carter
>Cooper achieved his goal at long last and everyone is awake yikes
literally retarded you're missing the point of the return, one of its main themes is that nostalgia is bad and that things can't be the way they were before look at dougie/cooper, even when he wakes up from the coma he's a changed man. kyle literally says in an interview that a lot of the return is about moving forward as a person and how people/places change over time you want coffee and cherry pie shit go rewatch the old series, clearly the return went over your head essentially you got lynched
It's a compliment when a lynchqueer screams out "FILTERED" or "LYNCHED". Honestly, please filter this garbage hack crap out of my life. Never in my life do I want to view another Lynch product again.
Adrian Jackson
Good post
Caleb Cruz
>jj abrams No thank you
Aiden Robinson
nice one you watch corn pone flicks imo audrey is definitely NOT a tulpa, there's 0 reason for that to be the case her whole arc in the return is a metaphor for (the real) her not wanting to be admitted into a psychiatric ward (the roadhouse)
Ian Johnson
so, was the whole thing a dream?
Joseph Ramirez
>thinks he can dictate what others experience
Asher Phillips
Yes, but that doesn't mean it's inconsequential. In Lynch's work there's no real distinction between reality, dream or hallucination.
Matthew Murphy
Based
Bentley Myers
but what the fuck is judy? can we talk about her? is she real?
Daniel Roberts
Yes it does
Austin Sullivan
i remember watching the ep8 on the stream of /tpg/ everyone was expecting the show to finally advance, revealing something big, and instead we got 10mn of a weird rock song and 30mn of nuclear explosion.
Went out and got a big pizza and came back. Was thinking about hotels and convenience stores as I eat it. Supernormal things have happened here, and of course with beings in disguise. They're usually dirty homeless bums (not so much the divine these days due to the fentanyl crisis, they're often replaced by little old foreign ladies)
One time a daemon tried to put a curse on me in a convenience store. At the bottom of the hill, there's another convenience store. After the police shot a girl to death there, it closed down. But still there's two stories above it. Above a convenience store. I drive by often and wonder what goes on there. No cars. Lights sometimes. 24 hour surveillance sign, phone booth. How much corn is behind the boarded windows?
Looking forward to checking in to a hotel soon. Hotel magic is strong in Lynch. You check in at night, and you wake up in a different universe. And if you're lucky, in between you get down to some serious fucking.
>not being born a freak of nature so you can be an actor in Lynch films like Mr. Glass the original midget and the Winkies Man woman who's too weird looking to exist
Cameron Barnes
Yes. You spend all this time hearing Andy and Lucy hyping him up, and it's early on enough that you expect they'll confirm who the daddy is (nostalgiabait...etc). And then you get none of that, just a dumb retard. And yet it's still 10000x more endearing and memorable than if they gave you what you asked for. It's a perfect microcosm for the entire season.
Gavin King
I think Lynch had Crysta Bell say the word "tulpa" just to fuck with everyone. It's like if she said "thelema" or something, Frostshit is Frostshit whether it's on a screen or a page.
Joshua Robinson
Link to the other one too, you need to fuse both versions into your head like FWWM + Missing Pieces, after seeing The Return, and then the mysteries of the LA Trilogy will be opened up to you.
Chase Price
A blasphemy
Angel Sanders
No. Stop talking about it.
Benjamin Jenkins
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