- Current title is Jurassic World: Endangered Species.
- Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard, BD Wong and Isabella Sermon returning from the previous movie.
- Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum and Laura Dern will appear.
- Plot revolves around the moral implications of using a virus made by InGen that could wipe out the dinosaurs but also destabilize Earth's environment.
- The human villains are InGen's new CEO and her enforcer who leads a dinosaur-hunting squad. New characters include a friendly doctor and her teenage son, a sensationalist newsman and an opportunistic politician.
- Darker and grittier tone, exploring the challenges of humans and dinosaurs co-existing after the cloning technology became public at the end of Fallen Kingdom.
>- Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum and Laura Dern will appear. Fuck. So just cameos?
Luis Sanchez
Will the fatass redhead finally lose weight?
Charles Young
The park should have never failed in the first movie, it would have been much better to have three films about this amazing park and all the chaos behind the scene to keep it open. Could have been a message about how technology trumps nature. But God forbid we don't repeat the first movie. What a wasted opportunity.
>cloning technology became public at the end of Fallen Kingdom. Do you mean public use? As in, anybody can use it? Everybody already knew about the cloning tech. That's literally part of the exhibit at the parks. Either way, they could do a really good R rated film with dinosaur hunters and shit but they gotta hit that PG-13.
Luis White
Unironically the best premise since the original film. We'll see if it pans out
Amazing how they manage run everything into the ground
John Cooper
Nobody wants to watch a Jurassic Park movie without dinosaurs eating people.
Nicholas Gomez
InGen had the secrets of cloning dinosaurs under lock and key, but the secret got out at the end of FK. Now anyone with money anywhere in the world can make their own dinos.
Dominic Ward
Lost faith in this series after Jurassic Park III. Fallen Kingdom was a horrendous piece of shit which killed all motivation I have to see any future series in this franchise.
John Bell
will they serve chili and sea bass
Ayden Wright
Ah. Right. I mean if we get a 4th which has dinosaur battles where two countries/PMC's fight using dinosaurs, that'd be bad-kino.
Lucas Jones
I would have liked to seen that, a whole Save the Park, Save the Dream angle. Would have made a good TV mini series.
Christopher Reed
Just shoot the freakin dinosaurs!!! Even Michael Crichton had them carpet bombed to death in the book (and killed by a disease in the second book). Muldoon even managed to kill some raptors in the book.
Why do these movies act like the dinosaurs can’t be shot or killed?
And I don’t know why the movies are so against killing dinosaurs with guns.
Christopher Evans
dinusars gud
ppl bad
Gavin Richardson
If we're going that route, just have them function like you'd expect ordinary animals would. Instead of these hyper-aggressive monsters shown in the movies.
In fact why didn't they tinker with their genetics to make them more docile?
I don't give a fuck cuz the second movie was total fucking shit, so fuck these money grabbing studio assholes.
Ian King
because its upsetting to kids to see stuff they like getting shot
Daniel Sanders
>Sam Neill I'm in
Leo Butler
>If we're going that route, just have them function like you'd expect ordinary animals would.
That's exactly what they are going for.
Wyatt Williams
I mean what are they gonna do? They have ONE raptor.. ONE t. rex.. As a matter of fact they have ONE of each dinosaur.. Why wipe out the dinosaurs? they'll eventually die the fuck off because they have no mates.
Fallen Kingdom really fucking botched things.. Jurassic World wasn't any better, but Fallen Kingdom was dogshit writing.. Literal trash.
Josiah Fisher
JP > JW > JP2 > JP3 > JW2
Thomas Cruz
I feel you. No one, and I mean no one likes JP/JW for chrichton's message but simply for the fact that its a mysterious island with a cool park and dinosaurs.
Logan Lewis
FK was simply the director wanting to get out of the islands. Literally they wrote themselves into a corner in the first movie by destroying a successful park that existed for years because supposedly Dr. Wu who's whole life revolves around that park simply didnt care about it going under because of his own experiments.
Then for some reason they have to make a raptor a character as opposed to a dangerous monster. Even though the whole concept of militarized raptors was proven retarded in the first movie for some reason in FK they just HAVE to go back and get blue so they can retry the same retarded concept.
All I want is mysterious islands with dino ecosystems and spooky experiments. I dont want what whatever JW is trying to sell.
Brayden Collins
Jurassic World Park IS the safe space. The rest of the world is fucked up with out of control dinos. Inside the park gates is stable. ShamalyanTwist.jpg
>All I want is mysterious islands with dino ecosystems and spooky experiments. I dont want what whatever JW is trying to sell. This.
Sebastian Nelson
Probably something along the lines of these films, even the first, were for kids.
Dinosaurs are what got you in the seat, and while movie monsters, are kind of the hero of the film. This is part of the reason why early character interactions with dinosaurs ends with one hurt/dead/sick/being captured, it’s to trick our brains into caring about these glorified effects.
Do you remember when gymnastics girl kicked a dinosaur off of a roof, sure the action itself is awkward, but do you remember the shot of the raptor impaled on the ground? It feels out of place, it feels like it’s part of a sci-fi original movie, not because of the effects, but their effect on the moviegoing experience.
Call me a sap but Fallen Kingdom killed the franchise for me. Having Isla Nublar fucking explode and all the original dinos die horribly really rubbed me the wrong way. Combined with stuff like Luke's story in TLJ, it's like Hollywood has to rub everything good that once was through the mud. So, it can all fuck off.
Because JW2 has a bad script where they thought of scenes that would be good but have no satisfying payoff. JP2 and JP3 are just okay but they manage to actually do decent payoffs and work as theme park movies and at worse are fun fanwank for people who just want to see dinos tear shit up.
Every thing in JW2 feels like it's leading up to something but instead of edging you it jerks you off right to the point of climax then lets go of your dick and ruins your orgasm.
Owen Price
>Darker and grittier tone Isn't this like how they said the latter half of FK was going to be dark and horror-inspired but ended up being generic, boring and all around idiotic? For fuck's sake, I don't care about what the """tone""" is going to be, just put some effort in making the fucking movie good and I'll talk about the """""tone""""" of it later.
If they're doing hybrids I'd like to see them reimagine the Compstegnathus from the Chaos Effect toy line, it's spliced from Compsognathus, Stegosaurus and an african tree frog with a forked tongue that can grab you by the neck.
The line had some pretty potentially spooky ones. I'm pretty sure they modeled the Indoraptor after the Deinonycanis.
think he was supposed to return but saw the script for FK and noped the fuck out
or something
Jordan Clark
That's the worst part of this whole thing.. It's like they took the entire concept of Jurassic Park 4 and stretched it out over an entire trilogy.. We're getting both weaponized dinos and dinosaur/human hybrids in the next movie and there's nothing we can do about it.
The best thing that could happen to Jurassic Park at this point is a total reboot. Hard reboot.
The books have so much potential for film or tv it's insane..
I'm a life long JP fag.. I love this franchise like I own it. And Fallen Kingdom was so fucking awful.
>original dinos die horribly really rubbed me the wrong way. Combined with stuff like Luke's story in TLJ It's pretty deliberate and aimed at people like you. Grow up and move up.
Connor Hughes
>All I want is mysterious islands with dino ecosystems and spooky experiments. I dont want what whatever JW is trying to sell.
Fucking thank you.
Blake Rodriguez
They originally planned to have the Spino and Rex duke it out during the eruption instead of the Carno.
I was hoping sanctuary island was real and Dr.Wu's playground but moving the dinos to the mainland is somewhat canonical according to the novels. But if they were following that subplot from the novels, they just should've been faithful to it in the first place. With Grant and Malcolm going through Central America figuring out how wild dinos got loose.
Logan Reyes
Then it was an easy win. Rexfags still seething nearly 20 years later.
>aimed at people like you >Grow up and move up. >please buy our posters, t-shirts, toys, and opening night movie passes
This theory has always bothered me.. Attacking the original base of "man-babies" is a terrible brainless tactic.. Why? Because parents don't take their kids to spend money on franchises that mock them.
The myth that people buying Marvel, Star Wars, and Jurassic World shit are 30 year old child-less man-babies living at home is infact a myth.. It's 35-40 year old fathers and mothers.. There's a reason Marvel is making money and every other franchise is trying to play catch-up.. Because up until Endgame, Marvel never told its fanbase to "grow up".
Dominic Smith
>Attacking the original base of "man-babies" Never implied that.
>Because parents don't take their kids to spend money on franchises that mock them. When did this happen?
I'm not sure where you're getting your persecution complex from but the franchises in question simply said, we're passing the torch onto another generation, you can still enjoy it but this isn't catering to you anymore. You're not the main target anymore. It hooks the kids and the IP is familiar enough to parents that they will happily oblige their kids. That's it. There's no hidden conspiracy.
Nathan Ward
It was rumored that Laura Dern was supposed to have a major role in JW3 (since she had never had a JP film with her as the central character) but the idea got dropped
Joshua Bennett
10 years too late
Camden Phillips
Would love to see some new dinos like my favorites kentrosaurus and metriacanthosaurus
Josiah Hernandez
you guys know these are supposed to be horror films right? They are supposed to be scary. Why do they keep making them shit?
Jack Johnson
Agreed, but I'd show up opening night if Sam Neill is a central character and not just a cameo.
Will Dennis Nedry return? Will Dennis Nedry return? Will Dennis Nedry return? Will Dennis Nedry return? Will Dennis Nedry return? Will Dennis Nedry return?
Jonathan Anderson
He dead
Ryan Young
no
Eli Roberts
I wouldnt say they are horror films but rather thrillers. dangerous dinos are only there to keep the adventure exciting and the reason these movies suck is because the majority of JW is just people talking with a few brief scenes of the park (the part we are really there to see) then you have the indo rex, a brief fight with the rex and the raptor squad nobody likes.
JWFK could have been cool exploring the island after being abandoned but they were there briefly. the directors literally wanted to destroy the island so they would never have to go back to it again and made sure the dino extraction was quick and urgent so we can all watch bryce howard and that one guy who is a supposed big shot star yap the rest of the movie.
Grayson Lee
Is Jurassic World a symbolism for Israel?
William Gonzalez
Some part of me always wished they included some character that was based on her in these movies.
And she'd still walk up to a gory mess of a corpse and say "That's disgusting." all nonchalant.
horror and thriller are both incredibly broad and horror is more about aesthetic than anything and doesn't mean it needs to be scary.
I don't think anyone would think Zombieland or What We Do in the Shadows are actually scary but they're both clearly within the horror umbrella.
Alexander Evans
I hate these movies, the first Jurassic Park was the only good one and even that is fucking shit compared to the book. I'm going to see this because I am starved of dinokino, but it is going to be even worse than Fallen Kingdom.
Logan Young
Nigga it's fantasy dinosaurs and Luke Skywalker don't actually exist lol
Jonathan Baker
I mean no one sees a dinosaur and is horrified. if the dinosaur is chasing after them then ya they frightened but its more like being thrilled.
what we do in the shadows is a comedy with horror elements.
Benjamin Johnson
it's a horror with comedy elements
Robert Taylor
After the RE3 remake if we're lucky. At the very least will include her secret costume in the game.
But if they are attacking the old fanbase that he is apart of that isn't a persecution complex some (((producers))) made a decision to make the franchise hostile towards him after he helped make it a familiar bankable IP that they can get the next generation hooked
But it's like they think think T-Rex is just about "Hey, remember this roar? Remember this pose? Remember when the T-Rex saves the main characters?" I'm so tired of Deus Rex machina and the symbolization of it rather than just showing it as an animal.
Easton Peterson
Dinos with feathers when,?
Leo Jenkins
>But it's like they think think T-Rex is just about "Hey, remember this roar? Remember this pose? Remember when the T-Rex saves the main characters?" I'm so tired of Deus Rex machina and the symbolization of it rather than just showing it as an animal.
This new trilogy has been treating them like dime store heroes. Not once at all in these movies have they killed a random bystander instead now they only kill the bad guys while everyone else gets away unscathed.
Didn't trying to do that bankrupt that Fox dinosaur show where they could only have like 2 dinosaur scenes every 8 episodes?
Alexander Price
I want more Nick Robinson and Ty Simpkins.
Parker Edwards
>attacking the old fanbase The fuck are you talking about?
Gabriel Cooper
It's too risky because the franchise is tied to the iconic images. I'm fairly confident that most people are aware in some capacity that some dinos had feathers. We knew as far back as JP1.
Asher Myers
>there are brainlettes in this very thread who got filtered by Fallen Kingdom
God that scene where the buck picks out that one guy from the crowd trying to run into the Blockbuster gave me nightmares as a kid. Poor fucker.
There's no stakes for the main characters anymore. The only dinosaurs we see ever get kills on innocents are the I-Rex, the pteranodons/dimorphodons (barely) and the Mosasaurus. The Parks trilogy worked so well in that regard because it didn't give you any sense of who's gonna survive. Everyone was fair game. Everyone was in danger, and it didn't matter what their personal morals or ethics were.
Zachary Walker
Killing off beloved characters, telling old fans to grow up, fucking with the message of the while storyline. JW isn't the worst example but definitely apart of the trend
> I'm fairly confident that most people are aware in some capacity that some dinos had feathers. We knew as far back as JP1.
This was explained away in the novel and by extension JW. Back in the first park they were still piecing together the dinosaurs genomes and while this was happening, they would usher out a generation of each species on their list. Inevitably problems would arise for the animals themselves like the whole 'eyesight based on movement' thing was a byproduct of shitty genetic code.
In Jurassic World they handwaved it as being a commercial thing.
oh no can humans and dinosaurs possibly... FUCK???
DUN DUUUN DUN DUUUN DUDUDUUUUUU DEH DEH DEH DEEEEEEEEH
William Morales
As much as I don't like where the new trilogy is heading, I do want to say that if they do get Sam Neil back, they need to have a scene where he chats about raptors with Chris Pratt's character.
Astronomer meets the astronaut.
Charles Flores
I think it's pretty obvious that soiboy nerd and vegan feminist lesbian part were written with this guy and the other chick in mind, but at the last minute they decided to change it for some retarded reason.
Mason Sanchez
>Literally they wrote themselves into a corner in the first movie
Did they, or is it simply that 6 movies in there are no fresh ideas for this franchise and it should have been killed off years ago?
Nolan Gonzalez
Oh no you didn't
Ayden Long
>Killing off beloved characters It's a form of progression because stagnation can kill a franchise. No one cared when Star Trek did it either.
>telling old fans to grow up This did not quite happen. Again, the torch gets passed onto another generation. This happens with long lasting franchises. You have to accept it because you're no longer the target audience anymore. Why are you incapable of understanding this? You act like a studio executive came to your house and punched you.
>JW isn't the worst example but definitely apart of the trend Trend? This happens to long lasting franchises and is nothing new. Have you ever heard your parents complain about music or new shows destroying the legacy of the original? That's YOU now. You've come full circle.
Christopher Cooper
Sucka tried to play me, but you never payed me, never
Camden White
>In Jurassic World they handwaved it as being a commercial thing. It also leans on the 4th wall a bit when Wu says nothing is natural and the dinosaurs would be quite different but they wanted to sell merchandise and a park.
But how would they introduce a feathered dinosaur if they could?
Blake Bailey
>Astronomer meets the astronaut. Klayton?
Nicholas Diaz
based
Mason Bailey
>Having Isla Nublar fucking explode and all the original dinos die horribly really rubbed me the wrong way. I mean, this was literally the state of the canon in both the books and movies up until the Jurassic World revival. Following the events of the first novel/movie, Nublar and its dinosuars were fucked up (explicitly firebombed in the novel).
The scene describing all this was Peter Ludlow's early deleted scene in The Lost World, so while the information it contained has always been assumed true, the scene was just declared totally non-canon for the sake of Jurassic World. Regardless, Rexy, the Brach, etc, were all killed back in the early/mid 90s as far as the canon has been concerned prior to 2015.
Ethan Butler
>But how would they introduce a feathered dinosaur if they could?
By making the real thing like Wu implied he could. I believe they use a mix of reptile dna to achieve that featherless and a few other unintentional mutations in their animals I.E. Dilophosaurus.
Looking at Monster Hunter, if Dino Crisis gets a remake it would be cool to see feathered dinosaurs
Joshua Mitchell
The Star Trek example is a great one I bring up often whenever this argument comes up, STII is heralded as a masterpiece and the killing off of one of the main characters (and the one that was almost undoubtedly the fan favorite) was definitely the reason for that, and the next sequel killed off something just as meaningful in the destruction of the Enterprise and it was a great thing too
Wyatt Adams
Other than JW there hasn't been anything cool with dinosaurs in it. I want them to come back.
They managed to come up with a lamer name than fallen kingdom.
The human villains are InGen's new CEO and her enforcer who leads a dinosaur-hunting squad So more shit characters. >Darker and grittier tone So more of the same stupid shit as that indoraptor crap.
Bentley Sanchez
If this is really true then they seriously need to raise the stakes, I need to see major ramifications caused by the release of the Dinosaurs from Lockwood Manor. I need to see third party non-INGEN made Dinosaurs running amok, I need to see the world actually in a state of disarray that is bad enough that causing a virus that has a huge amount of negative side-effects is justified, when it would probably be easier to just give some dudes some guns to go out and take care of the problem. I just can't understand how the situation could grow to that level unless there is a significant time-skip but considering the old actors are slated to return it suggests to me that there won't be one.
It might make more sense if the Dinosaurs being loose were a bunch of monsters like Indoraptors and I-Rexes which would pose an actual threat if in great numbers and reproducing across the world but as is it seems like it's just normal Dinosaurs, in small numbers, they can't be breeding that fast either, I just don't understand the stakes at all presented after Fallen Kingdom. The point it would take to pose an actual real world issue would be maybe 50 years at minimum and that's assuming no one did shit about the obvious problem of a T Rex walking through Zoos and a Raptor running around suburbs
Lincoln Hall
>I need to see the world actually in a state of disarray that is bad enough that causing a virus that has a huge amount of negative side-effects is justified
Unless they can breed asexually like in the first movie this is pretty overkill, yeah.
Adrian Nguyen
Also to add to this I think I recall Trevorrow himself said that they're done with the hybrids concept from now on after Fallen Kingdom so I can't even expect that to be in the situation. It just makes no sense, the only thing I can see them going for is the virus used by INGEN has the wrong effect and it ends up killing people instead and leads to a Planet of the Apes reboot situation which is laughably bad, but Ian's final words in the last movie would be truer than ever I guess
Grayson Diaz
Even if they are breeding asexually that has to take time for the new generation of young to be able to grow up and reach sexual maturity without being killed by predators or being found by humans to wipe out the issue. The only way to get around that would be saying they were genetically modified to grow at an accelerated pace but god damn even then I can't imagine the population getting that out of control that rapidly.
David Collins
>A virus destabilizing the environment
Facepalm. I haven't said that in 10 years but it deserves to be facepalmed.
Samuel Peterson
>Dinosaurs are people! Like us! They are freakin lab experiments that have literally killed hundreds of people with no remorse.
Just blow them all up.
Wyatt Gutierrez
Dinokino.
David Davis
I honestly think tha JW is a comfy watch, especially the early scenes with the operational park, and Chris Pratt training the raptors.
Ian Fisher
>All I want is mysterious islands with dino ecosystems and spooky experiments.
We got that with the original trilogy. There's really only so much you can do with that formula.
Joseph Torres
I like it too. The castle scenes in JW 2 were comfy too.
Matthew Davis
>a friendly doctor and her teenage son Why does there always have to be a kid?
Tyler Moore
I'd be down with letting Cameron take a crack at his adaptation of the original novel.
Connor Stewart
The T-rex became Skeletor. By that, I mean that it became too much of a fan-favorite character, so it couldn't be "evil" anymore.
Christopher Allen
>But how would they introduce a feathered dinosaur if they could? Maybe a rival corporation to InGen/Masrani that offers accurately reconstructed dinosaurs as a selling point. They could bring in something like Dakotaraptor or Yutyrannus as a new species.
