Why exactly is Joker being shat on by major progressives, trannies etc? Like what are the actual reasons? I haven't being paying attention. Is it mainly because of slight incel parallels? Seems very stupid.
Why exactly is Joker being shat on by major progressives, trannies etc? Like what are the actual reasons...
Bentley Davis
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Jayden Baker
The movie is an open invitation for incels to go postal, and they realize that could backfire on them politically.
Oh, and they don't want to be shot in some campus "incident".
Brody Moore
the pathologically unhappy?
i duno
Justin Nelson
I'M GONNA SAY IT
Logan Bell
So they fear the movie will inspire people to kill and therefore make the world less progressive??
Caleb Evans
trans people like the new Joker, because based on the leaks he seems to be a repressing trans person.
It's kind of interesting desu: /pol/ is split between liking the new Joker because he's an edgelord loser who wants to kill people to instigate social change just like them and hating him because he's very possibly gay or trans in this new version. /lgbt/ is likewise split because they like the portrayal of him as a sympathetic LGBT person coping with society not accepting him, but don't like the implication that LGBT people are mentally ill loners who are *this close* to snapping and going on a murder spree.
Really all this tells me is that the movie is probably quite good, if both sides can't agree if it's positive or negative. That usually means it's a nuanced take that is a genuinely interesting character study, rather than an overly emotional sob story.
Zachary Lewis
They hate straight white males.
Andrew Richardson
That isn't joker, its Duela Dent
Brody Watson
Joker is in no way gay or trans.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
my guess is that progressives do not actually care for movies. they just want comfort food that validates their view of the world.
I've seen a bunch of reviews that praise the movie for its craft only to pan it in the end because 'it's bleak' 'it doesn't have a message' 'it could be dangerous in the current climate' or something like that
movies now are only allowed to be either inoffensive and worthless quipfests for the whole family or propaganda pieces
Cameron Reed
But they love it
Jack Parker
what makes you think he is trans? because so far the only argument for that I have seen was 'he has a squaky voice as he breaks'
Christian James
Jeremiah Sanchez
look at the actual reviews though
Angel Flores
That whole post sounds like a ton of projection and making up some whole board war in your head that doesn't exist.
Jacob Martin
this guy upset when they have a black guy
talking in movies
Andrew Phillips
But I love talking animal movies.
Joshua Martinez
ITS LITERALLY THIS
GAMERS, GAMERGATE, /pol/, SEXIST WHITE MALES
JOKER IS THEIR MOVIE
AND ITS WINNING AWARDS EVERYWHERE
SO THE LEFTOIDS ARE ABSOLUTELY SEEEEEEEEEEEEEETHING
TRYING EVERY DISINGENUOUS TACTIC TO SHIT TALK IT
BUT IT KEEPS WINNING! LMAO
JOKER WINNING VENICE IS BASICALLY 2016 ELECTION 2.0
Jayden Green
k
Liam Williams
Why though? Because Pol likes it? Would most of the reviewers even be aware of this? I'm really starting to think that this whole thing is the equivalent to a sjw triggered compilation. I don't think many people are angry at this movie at all.
Jonathan Phillips
idk man, you seen the clip? He's very effeminate in his mannerisms and voice, and the message he has (society won't accept me for being different and is horribly cruel, so I'm going to take revenge) is a fantasy a lot of LGBT people seem to be able to relate with. Obviously hard to tell based on the information we have at this point, but the directorial and acting decisions we've seen so far seem to suggest they may be going that direction.
Also in the comics Joker is kinda gay. More accurately he's Bat-sexual, just like Smithers is Burns-sexual, he's totally obsessed with Batman to the point of hitting on him, repeatedly. Obviously varies based on who is writing, though, sometimes he's full straight and into Harley, sometimes he's full camp gay. Regardless, he's always been coded a bit heavier towards being an effeminate villain. Hell, part of his whole thing was being creepy and playing on transsexual stereotypes.
look at both the /pol/ and /lgbt/ threads about the film leaks, I think I presented both sides fairly accurately. Also not trying to insinuate there's a board war, just differing opinions on the same piece of media. I don't think either /pol/ or /lgbt/ really cares what the other board thinks, desu, and neither side is fighting. They just differ in opinion on it.
Tyler Thompson
/pol/ doesn't like it
Colton Young
I never mentioned black guys
Thomas Howard
>patreon
>send me money because I dress up like your favorite capeshit and anime characters
Thot/beta genocide when?
Leo Hughes
Some are still nice to look at desu
Christian Sanders
Holy fucking cringe, go dilate, you sound like one of those freaks who tries to claim Samus is trans.
Brayden Martinez
Christopher Diaz
I'm afraid you made the wrong choice, friend. Rent free.
Lucas Thompson
The trailer dropped around the same time the clown world/honkler meme got big so it got associated with it, and by extension so did incel/alt-right/white male fragility/insert your favorite buzzword here. Just another example of internet group think being utterly dissociated from reality.
Brody Baker
No, go dilate right now.
Ryan Bailey
Cringe
Angel Flores
God, Frank Miller is such a good comic book writer, but also such a lazy artist.
Bentley Powell
Outrage porn, produced for the SJWs and Alt-Right, to distract the disenfranchised and keep them fighting each other, so they do not focus on the problems that matter: the class divide, Wall Street, the MIC, or AIPAC. Bread and circus to beat the people with the people's stick.
Kayden Garcia
No, go dilate right now.
James White
seethe
Lucas Edwards
Euro-commies hope it inspires shootings, because the want America to burn.
American lefties don't want to get burnt.
Isaac Harris
He's basically our Togashi.
Owen Peterson
Besides the incel ideology, GAMERS RISE UP and WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY memes.
The fact that mall ninjas, incels, the Aurora shooter and fedora tippers idolize Ledger Joker.
Blake Powell
Another tip-off are the references to LGBT "touchstone" films in the trailer.
Cameron Wood
dilate
Anthony Murphy
Because art house film festivals went from being far-left to far-right overnight.
No.
Samuel Watson
No, go dilate right now.
Dominic Brooks
>I don't think many people are angry at this movie at all.
They aren't
It mostly the same few caps going around and the majority of leftoids like it even though they don't agree with "muh incel pandering"(even though he isn't an incel)
Bentley Nelson
>>"I can't believe Venice pulled this shit again," one female filmmaker tells THR. "Not only do they basically snub women,
Logan Cook
Yikes
Hunter Davis
Simple - You're not supposed to be allowed to point out how broken society is. It's all progress, remember?
Lucas Lee
>I wanted a subversive comic book movie with a message
>NOOO NOT THAT KIND, I MEANT A FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK WHITE MEN SUBVERSIVE MESSAGE
Dominic Long
Except leftists say that society is broken all the time. They pin it on white men and the nebulous patriarchy.
Ryan Cox
Why did you leave out the entire thing?
but then they put Polanski in competition. I think the message they are sending is loud and clear: They want to continue celebrating people who have been convicted or accused of sexual assault."
This is something that happens over here too. What type of narrative are you trying to paint, cryptojew?
Jayden Cooper
Leftists mostly blame societal ills on capitalism at this point I think. You're a few years out of date on your leftist punching bags, white men and patriarchy are so 2013.
Grayson Davis
In my country, it's all the rage right now. Late adopters from university are entering the real world and get into positions that allow them to spread their ill-conceived victimization complex.
Aiden Bell
You're posting this at a time when corporate shilling by liberals is more prevalent than ever. As long as a company is vocally pro-nigger and pro-trannie a leftie will shill the fuck out of it.
David Moore
William White
leftist =/= liberal
You're right that liberals fellate corporate dick if it serves the right political agenda, but leftists, to their credit, mostly don't. They truly do hate basically all companies.
Don't get me wrong, they're still fucking retarded, but at least they're (mostly) not hypocritical and retarded.
Saying leftists and liberals are interchangeable makes about as much sense as saying the alt-right and conservatives are interchangeable. They may share some beliefs, but overall really aren't very similar politically.
Daniel Green
They're just conditioned to say anything white men like should be banned
Joseph Hughes
Transition
Lucas Wright
Except tech companies, when it comes to censoring things they don't like.
Nicholas Fisher
The alt-right are just racially aware libertarians. They may larp as "nazis" or conservatives for the lolz, but whenever you ask them "what should the state do in this situation" they lean libertarian in most topics.
Wyatt Barnes
>male
>white
>straight
bonus points for being angry at society
Kayden Flores
God, I wish this was my clown world
Brayden Cooper
THE NARRATIVE THAT #METOO IS FUCKING SEEEEEEEEEEEETHING
ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE WHITE MALE HATING LEFTOID CREW
THEY WANT 50% FEMALE DIRECTORS AT FESTIVALS
FORCED DIVERSITY FOR NOTALENT HACKETTES
VENICE TOLD THEM TO GO SUCK SOME MORE DICKS FOR ROLES LMAO
James Cook
It’s called ‘projection’. All sides are projecting their personal politics/ideologies/feefees in an interesting way; half of each side loves it, half hates it. It just means it’s gonna be some kind of kino we rarely get to see, sparking a sort of minor paradigm shift. Some trannies are gonna love it and go 1488 on society. Some Elliot Rodgers types are gonna hate it and go all SJW on society. All you gotta do is sit back and enjoy the memes. Honestly, I can’t think of a single flick in the last 5 years to spark as much (positive) organic creativity and memetics, and I’m pretty excited...and I usually hate DC offerings AND reboots.
Jeremiah Smith
Venice is wall-to-wall communists.
If it makes America look like shit, they love it.
Jaxson Parker
VENICE ARE SEXISTS ABOVE ALL
AKA BASED
Brayden Roberts
the movie itself is schizophrenic.
It mixed its anti-white male and pro-LGBT messages.
Movies made by committees tend to mix messages- just look at Disney Wars.
Landon Morales
They just couldn't resist a movie that bashes American society as much as Joker does.
Michael Richardson
>archive.4plebs.org
>ctrl F joker
>not a single mention
What are they paying you to shill?
He's an admitted anti-white male ape scrawl poster
Nicholas Wood
>(((Silverstein)))
Do you really, REALLY think I will give a single fuck about the larping of some jew thot about metoo?
Fuck, you kike.
Carson Smith
fags took over nerd culture then got upset when nerds started hating on them. it is such a strange time for entertainment media. there is a small minority in control working tirelessly to ostracize and evict the majority that formed the foundation of the things they control. all that will happen is these powerful people will lose their power, and the great properties will be destroyed as a result (example: star wars).
Nathan Diaz
FAT STACKS, THEY PAY WELL
THE ANTI #METOO LOBBY
MAKE UP AN ACRONYM
Mason Bennett
They thought it would be about incels and trump supporters and reddit memes, and it wasn't. It's an apolitical romp about someone being driven to the brink where you feel bad for the main character and the villain at the same time.
That's not allowed in 2019. It's all propaganda or it's part of the nazi patriarchy. Don't believe me that's the reason they're upset? Just read some of the negative reviews and notice how they hammer on and on about "the message", "The message" is stale. Not the movie was bad, it just didn't have the right "message".
Anything that isn't political propaganda or some bold statement on society (that they agree with) is automatically bad in their books because it's not subverting expectations. For reference, see the Dave Chappelle 'Sticks and Stones' routine on RT.
Jordan Lee
Christopher Jones
Thotbonkers.
Bonbiroastie.
Grayson Cook