Now that the dust has settled, what are the best nazi/world war 2 kinos?

Valkyrie

>noo noooo noooooo that meme BELONGS to MY side stopstopstoooooooop

Why did they gloss over the Polish uprisings and the German invasion of Czechoslovakia?

Der Untergang

Czech was already invaded by poland at that point in time.

Doesn’t really answer either question.

just watching europa europa.
why the fuck would it be a normal practice to watch for circumcision to identify jews?
1/3 of all males suffer from phimosis ffs.

Don't know.
Ask dennis wise on bitchute if he is around there.

downfall

Seems like they’re trying to sell a disingenuous narrative,

Cross Of Iron

>Conspiracy (2001)
>Night of the Generals
>Where Eagles Dare
/fa/scistkino

>disingenuous narrative.
And nazis being 1 dimensional bad guys isn't?

That’s irrelevant whataboutism. Please stay on topic.

It does, there are many happenings that weren't in the documentary, because you can't summarize whole WW2 in even 5h.
In example, Czechoslovakia did get more attention than Norway and the winter war got barely mentioned.

That Poland invaded Czech got taken over with Poland is less important than public USSR propaganda about how the Winter War will be the start of the war against NatSoc Germany or that German children got mass-lobtomized in Scandinavian countries after the war.
For a
>muh ebil pro nazi
documentary, they really missed out on many chances to show allied war crimes.

The Greatest Story Never Told is a good neutral documentary, telling you about the most relevant happenings that get wiped under the rug in schools and all other WW2 documentaries.
But it is in no way a catch-all documentary about everything that was going on in WW2.

the boot

yes faggot

the movie "uprising"?

>The Greatest Story Never Told is a good neutral documentary
It's filled with debunked propaganda like the Danzig Massacre.

why is it always mutts that fall for the NEETSoc meme?

>>Conspiracy (2001)
based. we're friends now

>Bloody Sunday didn't happen
now i wonder what North Korean like education system told you that.
What exactly is "debunked"?

I think it’s pretty important to explain that Germany invaded the Czech-majority regions of Czechoslovakia in direct violation of the Munich Agreement months after they were permitted to annex the German-majority regions. I can’t imagine why that would be swept under the rug, as it explains why the British government lost their trust in Hitler and his government. It also ignores the fact that the so-called “Polish Corridor” rose up and broke away from Germany on its own in 1918-1919, but the documentary seems to purposely conflate that with the case of Danzig, which was a single German-majority area “given” to Poland by the WW1 Allies. Again, this hardly seems like a simple accident that was made in otherwise good faith.

Bloody Sunday happened AFTER the invasion of Poland. The alleged 50k+ Germans genocided by Poles before the invasion which Hitler used as casus belli to invade did not happen. If you have any evidence that suggests otherwise feel free to post it.

there's antony bevoor audio books on youtube. like 60 hours worth.

>soi boys are nazis

Dude it’s a joke that has meaning you can’t just slap things you don’t like on it and have it’s be funny.

You can’t even make fun of Nazis? Seriously?

>N-Nazis can't be soi!
according to who?

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>he doesn’t know about “Nazi beans”
Brudi...

lmao

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pls prune this /pol/ thread

>as it explains why the British government lost their trust in Hitler and his government
The fact that you think that the British government ever had any trust in Hitler and his government.
So taking over an already taken over country makes them lose their trust, but the initial invasion made by poland doesn't make them lose their trust towards poland and the invasion of Poland by the USSR doesn't make them lose their trust towards the USSR?

Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense.
You are just pointing your finger on one of 1000 happenings and declare that as the reason why the UK had to declare war against NatSoc Germany, while all the invasions by other countries prior to that were no problem?

You seem a bit biased in that regard.
Some happenings that i think are way more important and also didn't get proper mentioned:
- Winter War (of course!)
- The Governmental Crisis in the UK after the UK army had to abandon France and got kicked out of continental Europe. They got nearly toppled because of their declaration of war against Germany and then their military loss of their largest ally in just one month.

that face is what the people who watch those le epic Hitler speeches with Hans Zimmer (ironic) music added in make.

What about the reoc of the Ruhr?

>did not happen
of course, so the polish government had propaganda and transmissions about how they have to genocide germans already before the war.... just like Czechoslovakia... but somehow you think that they just started to genocide them when NatSoc germany invaded?

You might want to read a bit more about WW2 and interwar period poland.
You really think that poland was happy with large parts of their country being ethnically completely german and they would have never done the genocide that they promised to do?

The Munich Agreement permitted Germany to annex the German-majority regions of Czechoslovakia. The British Government agreed to this, knowing full well that it would render Czechoslovakia (their ally) defenseless. The only stipulation was that Germany had to guarantee not to annex the rest of the country (though many predicted that the rump Czechoslovak republic would likely become a German vassal). In March 1939, Germany violated the Munich Agreement and invaded the rump Czechoslovak state anyway. None of this is addressed in the film, but it’s integral to explaining how Britain and Germany ended up at war. Very very odd.

brits declared war over poland

>The fact that you think that the British government ever had any trust in Hitler and his government.
If they didn't trust him they wouldn't have allowed the remilitarization of the Rhineland, Anschlus, and the invasion of the Sudetenland all of which would've been casus belli for war. They wouldn't have pursued a policy of appeasement. They wouldn't have signed treaties with him like the Anglo-German Naval Agreement. The British clearly had some confidence the Nazis could be reasoned with and trusted to some extent but the breaking of the Munich Pact with the invasion of Czechoslovakia was the last straw in a series of broken treaties / agreements.

>doesn't make them lose their trust towards the USSR
The Western Allies had offensive operations against the Soviet Union in mind (see Operation Pike) but once Germany invaded Russia it created an alliance between the west and Soviet Union born strictly out of convenience due to them having a mutual enemy in Nazi Germany.

And the British ultimatum over Poland was a direct result of the violation of the Munich Agreement a mere 6 months earlier.

>casus belli for war.
._.

>polish government had propaganda and transmissions about how they have to genocide germans already before the war
Source?

>but somehow you think that they just started to genocide them when NatSoc germany invaded?
Bloody Sunday was mostly directed towards fifth column elements as a response to the invasion. There is no evidence to suggest 50k+ German civilians were genocided by Poles before the invasion. If you have evidence to suggest they were feel free to post it like I said earlier.

>You might want to read a bit more about WW2 and interwar period poland.
You might want to do research into the Danzig Massacre instead of buying it at face value. There is absolutely no evidence to support it.

>they would have never done the genocide that they promised to do?
Source that Poles promised to genocide Germans?

They didn't annex the rest of the country, as the rest of the country wasn't even existent at that time because of the polish invasion.
They did invade poland.
>Czechoslovakia (their ally)
the UK never cared about czechoslovakia, they were just active in the munich agreement because they cared about the rest of the land that was stolen with the Treaty of Versailles.
Thats also why the UK didn't care about the USSR invading Poland or Finland, but immediately declared war when NatSoc Germany invaded Poland.

Not the invasion was the problem. That NatSoc Germany wanted to get the land back that they lost by Versailles was the problem.
The brits sperged out because this means that they lose their gibs.

IIRC, Operation Pike (bombing the Caucasian oil fields in response to Soviet aggression against Poland/Finland/Baltics) had to be called off as a result of the German invasion of France. I might have my timing a bit off, though.

>Sign an agreement to get predominantly the German part of a country
>Agreements says you must not try to take over the rest of said country.
>Announce this is your last territorial claim
>Invade the rest of the country anyways.

>If they didn't trust him they wouldn't have allowed the remilitarization of the Rhineland, Anschlus, and the invasion of the Sudetenland all of which would've been casus belli for war
The Rhineland got invaded by France because they didn't have enough with what they got after the Treaty of Versailles and wanted even more. They said that Germany wasn't fast enough with paying WW1 reperations during the times of hyperinflation and used this as their excuse to get their military into Germany.

It would be pretty hard for the UK to declare war over germany because of that, wouldn't it?
So the French sperg out and germany reacts and enforces it's own land..... not even in that fucked up time back then this would have been a proper excuse for a war.
The UK government was unstable during that time, no way that the government would have survived that.

Poland was big enough to offer them a good excuse, if they just wipe all the announcements of genocide against germans of the fucked up polish government under the rug.
And even that caused a government crisis in the UK!

shut up double nigger

based
fags

>as the rest of the country wasn't even existent at that time because of the polish invasion
What? Poland invaded railway junction city of Bohumín it didn't invade the entirety of the rest of Czechoslovakia. Germany absolutely annexed the rest of the country.

>but immediately declared war when NatSoc Germany invaded Poland.
refer to>the British clearly had some confidence the Nazis could be reasoned with and trusted to some extent but the breaking of the Munich Pact with the invasion of Czechoslovakia was the last straw in a series of broken treaties / agreements.

>That NatSoc Germany wanted to get the land back that they lost by Versailles was the problem.
Hitler had promised the Sudetenland was his last territorial demand in Europe only to break that and his word yet again. They absolutely had right to not believe him and deny him Danzig

you missed a part:
>the country doesn't exist anymore because their ally invaded them
Really makes me wonder why the UK, which cares soooo much about those things, didn't declare war against poland because of that?

But anyway, you know it yourself that what you claim is wrong.
Czechoslovakia wasn't part of the declaration of war of the UK against NatSoc germany.

Much of your post is factually incorrect. The Czechoslovak state did exist and was invaded in March 1939 in direct violation of the Munich Agreement. I do recall that Poland annexed a disputed border area (as did Hungary) but I don’t recall if that was in 1938 or 1939. Regardless, Poland did not invade Czechoslovakia to the extent of erasing it from the map, otherwise there would not have been the (nominal) “protectorate” of Bohemia-Moravia under German control by the time of the German invasion of Poland. It should also be pointed out that Czechoslovakia was not a part of Germany prior to Versailles. It was a constituent province of the Austrian Empire (with Bohemia/Moravia part of Austria and Slovakia part of Hungary) and the German population in the Czech borderlands had been encouraged to settle there by the Bohemian crown in the Middle Ages.

Wtf don't you get? Hitler said it wasn't the last claim. Why not fucking stop there? You have everything. But nooo. He literally lost all trust he had and any sort of diplomatic respect and chances.
Also just to be clear this coming from a supporter and I think the world would have been better if Nazis had won.

>They said that Germany wasn't fast enough with paying WW1 reperations during the times of hyperinflation and used this as their excuse to get their military into Germany.
The invasion was condemned by the British and the western press at large. It was not a popular move on France's part. The reparation issue would be negotiated later at the treaty of locarano

>It would be pretty hard for the UK to declare war over germany because of that, wouldn't it?
Over the remiliritization of the Rhineland? It absolutely could if it was so inclined to, France as well. It was in violation of the Versailles treaty and gave the allies justification to invade if it wanted to. However the Brits wanted to avoid another war and pursued a policy of appeasement instead. French government was deadlocked so it didn't respond with force either.

>So the French sperg out and germany reacts and enforces it's own land
The French left the Rhineland in 1925 dude

>Poland was big enough to offer them a good excuse
Poland was the last straw in a series of treaties and territorial demands Hitler had lied about. Why would they trust him at all after the violation of the Munich Pact, German-Naval Agreement, etc?

>if they just wipe all the announcements of genocide against germans of the fucked up polish government under the rug.
What fucking announcements? You keep saying this and provide no evidence. When did the Poles say they would genocide all Germans?

*constituent “province” is a poor word choice, but the point remains that, while Bohemia-Moravia had been in the Holy Roman Empire and subsequently Austria-Hungary, it was never part of the German state prior to the German invasion of March 1939.

Well, I'm German myself so I'm a bit biased on the subject. Despite being so over exeggarated, unrealistic at times and the comedic representation of German soldiers, Come and See is the best WW2 movie I ever saw.

Eastern Europe is german clay btw to be desu

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>the country doesn't exist anymore
That is absolutely false the country still existed the Poles only invaded one junction city. Convenient you keep ignoring that

>Czechoslovakia wasn't part of the declaration of war of the UK against NatSoc germany.
You think they didn't take that into consideration when declaring war? "Hitler acted untrustworthy in Czechoslovakia and proved he can't be taken at his word so we won't allow him anymore territorial concessions" definitely played into their plans.

>Poland invaded railway junction city of Bohumín it didn't invade the entirety of the rest of Czechoslovaki
So just a little bit of annexation is ok? As long as you leave a rest of the defenceless broken country behind?
NatSoc Germany also didn't take whole Czechoslovakia in one go.

Anyway, lets apply your own logic, you said that the invasion fo Czechoslovakia after Poland invaded it already was super relevant because it's why the UK sperged out and they "lost trust"?
Even thought that the UK itself didn't care about that at all in their declaration of war against Germany.
So if that "loss of trust" is enough to start a world war because someone does something that also your ally does (invasion of poland by Germany and USSR)... then i guess that the invasion fo Czechoslovakia by Poland is giving more then enough pretext for NatSoc germany to declare Czechoslovakia as non-existent.

Please apply your own logic to the other site.

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>comedic representation of German soldiers
The film was about the Dirlewanger Brigade what about it was misrepresented?

Weren’t the Hungarian and Polish annexations permitted by the Munich Agreement?

>we only invaded a part of you and your military is non-existent and your government isn't able to govern over your own country
>but hey, that country is still totally legit
>that invasion is also totally nothing to worry about and nothing that we have to critizise
>also the USSR invading poland is totally ok
oh god
You don't know how propaganda works, do you?
Again:
Not even the UK mentioned Czechoslovakia in their declaration of war... and the reason for that is because their ally poland did invade it earlier.
If Poland wouldn't have pserged out, i am totally sure that the UK would have mentioned it.

YOU are saying that it gave the UK enough "loss of trust" (that they never had) to make them start a world war. Even thought that not even the UK mentions that.
Whatever you wrote about "trust" is just your made up opinion without any real basis. The UK didn't sperg out when Poland invaded Czechoslovakia (and no, it's not somehow irrelevant because it wasn't the whole country, because the Sudentenland also wasn't the whole country, but was super important)... and they didn't sperg out when NatSoc germany did it. Because they couldn't!

no

We aren’t talking about the annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938. We’re talking about the invasion of the rump Czechoslovak state in 1939.

>So just a little bit of annexation is ok?
I didn't say that or imply it. You kept claiming that Czechoslovakia was wiped off the map due to the Polish invasion despite the fact they only took one city. The German invasion of the Sudetenland alone did much more damage to the country. I don't even know where you're getting these "facts" considering all this shit is one google search away

>Even thought that the UK itself didn't care about that at all in their declaration of war against Germany.
What do you mean by this? The invasion of Czechoslovakia absolutely played a role in the decision to declare war as it showed you couldn't negotiate with Hitler.

>invasion of poland by Germany and USSR)
The West was not Allied with the USSR at that point, funnily enough Germany was much more closely aligned. It was only after the invasion of Russia by Germany did the USSR and the west forge an alliance, one strictly due to convenience in having a mutual enemy in Germany.

>then i guess that the invasion fo Czechoslovakia by Poland
Poland did not break their word in a series of agreements like the Germans did. One territorial concession by the Czechs to the Poles is not equivalent to the series of concession granted by the Allies to the Germans (which they would just break anyway)

Sauce? I thought that Germany, Hungary and Poland were all permitted to annex Czechoslovak territory?

That's my point. The Dirlewanger brigade weren't your ''normal'' German soldiers. Most of them were Polish, Ukranian and other slavs. The rest of the German forces hated them. There are no official records what they were doing so whether they're potrayed truthfully or not we'll never know. What I know is that that they're portrayed as comic book villains. I can't take them serious. By the way

Fun fact: the actors were all played by actual Germans which was a common thing in Soviet propaganda at that time to stor up hate against Germans in the USSR.

Lmao the british empire is destroyed, based right Churchill ?

yes, thats what i am talking about.
You say that the Poland invasion of broken Czechoslovakia is totally ok because they just took parts of the country. But the Sudentenland was also just a part of it and was important enough for the UK to start with the Munich Agreement.
Where was the diplomatic sperg out because of Poland doing it?

There was none, because obviously it was an ally doing it. And this is also the reason why the UK couldn't declare war because of Czechoslovakia, because that would rip their own government apart if they use such a cheap excuse.

You are aware that we aren't talking about how they really felt like.... but about what gave them enough pretext to start WW2.
Becuase the real reason why the UK declared war was because NatSoc Germany didn't accept the Treaty of Versailles.... but saying
>we declare war against you because you don't give us free gibs and don't allow our allies to keep the land that we stole
is not good enough.

You have to understand the context. The UK government was unstable at that time. They needed WW2 to happen soon, but they couldn't start it out of a none-reason or their government would crumble.

>ugh UGH UUGGHH gramps, just ugh...

>that invasion is also totally nothing to worry about and nothing that we have to critizise
The Poles territorial demands of one city was no where near the Germans demands of multiple countries I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.

>also the USSR invading poland is totally ok
The Allies had offensive operations in mind against the Soviet Union

>You don't know how propaganda works, do you?
Says the guy who literally buys into debunked propaganda. Still waiting on that evidence for the Danzig Massacre btw. Hell even evidence that the Poles said they would genocide Germans would suffice.

>Not even the UK mentioned Czechoslovakia in their declaration of war
Do you honestly think it did not play into their decision making?

>that they never had
Then why did they pursue appeasement? Why did they make multiple treaties and agreements with Nazi Germany?

>Whatever you wrote about "trust" is just your made up opinion without any real basis.
The loss of trust is why appeasement failed and played a major role as to why the Chamberlain government was ousted. You really have no idea what you're talking about here.

>he UK didn't sperg out when Poland invaded Czechoslovakia
refer to >Poland did not break their word in a series of agreements like the Germans did.

> it's not somehow irrelevant
I didn't say that

>because the Sudentenland also wasn't the whole country
The rest of Czechoslovakia was tho why do you keep ignoring that?

>and they didn't sperg out when NatSoc germany did it
Because Germany violated the Munich Pact, another violation in a series of violations which showed Germany could not be trusted.

>The rest of the German forces hated them
And why do you think they hated them?

>There are no official records what they were doing
That's simply incorrect

>What I know is that that they're portrayed as comic book villains.
What specifically in the film did you find as comic book tier?

>Soviet propaganda
The Soviet government blocked the release of the film for years why would they do that to supposed "propaganda"?

>stor up hate against Germans in the USSR.
Why would the Soviets rally hate against the Germans when they had major investment and interest in East Germany?

>Becuase the real reason why the UK declared war was because NatSoc Germany didn't accept the Treaty of Versailles
What do you think the policy of appeasement was?

>faking hatred for (yous)
We're evolving!

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For starters, could you clarify exactly when the Polish annexation of this disputed border area took place? I was under the impression that it was in response to the Munich Agreement, long before the German invasion of 1939. Not saying that it was a nice thing to do regardless, but the date would give me a better understanding of the context. Furthermore, what does Versailles have to do with the German invasion of Czechoslovakia? Czechoslovakia was never a part of “Germany” prior to 1939, as I’ve already pointed out.

>They hated them, because they were criminal, ruthless, drunk, human garbage.
Yes and how do you think they got such a reputation?

>The soviets hated Germans so much they deported my grandparents to fucking Kyrgyzstan
And when was this out of curiosity? Immediately post war I'd imagine. I don't see why the Soviets would wanna drum up anti-German hate in the fucking 80s when the film released

>If you wanna discuss politics there's a board for that
Considering a number of your complaints are political in nature I'd say it's ok we address them. I always see people call Come and See propaganda but never give a proper reason why.

>The Poles territorial demands of one city was no where near the Germans demands of multiple countries
ok, now you are just burring yourself into your bias or you are just very unknowing.
Demand of multiple countries?
They literally just took back what they got stolen by the treaty of Versailles at that time! They started to take more after Poland sperged out with their:
>muh, we will genocide all germans and you can't do anything against it, because if you do, France and UK will defend us
Meanwhile Poland wanted to annex land for lmao, polish minority :^)
>The Allies had offensive operations in mind against the Soviet Union
kek, is that again some personal opinion that is written down nowhere like "lost trust"?
NatSoc Germany had the excuse of Polands commiting genocide against Germans, what excuse did the USSR have? They just did it. It's just NatSoc germany that has a legit reason.

Again:
You don't get the very concept of diplomacy in war time.
The reason why Poland and the USSR could happily do whatever the fuck they want is because they are an ally.
Also the UK isn't le world police, they didn't give a fuck about poland or any other country there at all, they just cared about their own interests according to the treaty of versailles.

Pic related is winter war soviet propaganda.
The winter war got advertised as the beginning of the war against NatSoc germany. But officially it was just because the USSR felt like this land is russian claim.

Thats the difference between actual motivations and diplomatic pretext.
The actual motivation of the UK to start WW2 was that NatSoc Germany got too strong and didn't accept the Treaty of Versailles anymore, which was a major economic concern for the struggling English Empire.
The diplomatic reason was that NatSoc germany invaded Poland. Czechoslovakia isn't relevant, not for the actual motivation, and not for diplomatic reasons (or it would be part of the declaratio of war).

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>Why did they make multiple treaties and agreements with Nazi Germany?
Because diplomacy works independent from any preparation of war.
Hitler and Stalin also had a deal, meanwhile the USSR is full of anti-nazi propaganda and Goebbels has daily speeches about the danger of communism.

Both countries knew that they will go to war later anyway, when they made their deal.

Will there ever be a movie about Adolf's childhood, him trying to get into art school, WW1, and his imprisonment afterwards?

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Which part of Czechoslovakia was “taken” from Germany at Versailles?

>ok, now you are just burring yourself into your bias or you are just very unknowing.
This sentence doesn't make sense I don't know what you are trying to say

>They literally just took back what they got stolen by the treaty of Versailles at that time!
"Stolen" lmao you realize part of losing a war is relinquishing territory yes? Not to mention much of the territory they demanded like Austria was never part of Germany and areas like Slovakia were majority Slavic. Even the Polish corridor was mostly non-German.

>muh, we will genocide all germans and you can't do anything against it,
What evidence is there they said this you keep saying this and provide zero evidence

>kek, is that again some personal opinion that is written down nowhere
It's been posted in this very thread dude right here You just don't bother reading

>like "lost trust"?
You mean a major reason why Chamberlain was ousted? I don't know know why you persist that the lost confidence in Germany by the UK is some made up fairy tail despite the fact it played a major role in going to war

>NatSoc Germany had the excuse of Polands commiting genocide against Germans
Ok can you post any evidence that they did? Any it all? You've failed to do so thus far.

>You don't get the very concept of diplomacy in war time.
You don't understand diplomacy period. You can't comprehend why UK lost trust in Germany despite the mulittiude of agreements they broke which I've mentioned in this thread.

>because they are an ally.
Germany was actually more closely aligned with the Soviets then the Allies were at the time of the invasion kek.

>The actual motivation of the UK to start WW2 was that NatSoc Germany got too strong and didn't accept the Treaty of Versailles anymore
Then why did they pursue appeasement? Why didn't they go to war as soon as they had the chance?

>Czechoslovakia isn't relevant
You're delusional if you think it didn't play a role.

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>Because diplomacy works independent from any preparation of war.
But the policy of appeasement they pursued prevented them from being able to declare war on Germany earlier despite them having casus belli. Anschluss, Remilirization of the Rhineland, and Invasion of Czechoslovakia all could've been proper pretexts for war had they wanted to go to war at that point.

I strike a nerve there mutt?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
Whole of Czechoslovakia and it's weird border was a invention by the Treaty of Versailles.
Combining Czech and Slovakia and ethnical german sudetenland to one mixed up artificial country.

Not really. The bulk of this thread consists of tearing it to shreds based on its treatment of Czechoslovakia and Poland alone.

It's always hilarious watching americans praise hitler
Most americans have at least some nonwhite blood and hitler openly stated he hated americans

>treatment of Czechoslovakia and Poland alone.
meaning?

>I don't know know why you persist that the lost confidence in Germany by the UK is some made up fairy tail
Beause its your personal story thats not based on anything.
So you think that the UK was perfectly fine with NatSoc germany declaring Treaty of Versailles as totally useless and they liked it how Germany was now the leading industrial nation in Europe?

btw. isn't it funny how you never mention the Treaty of Versailles, even thought that it was the whole motivation of NatSoc germany. So important that after France lost, they got forced to sign their surrender in exactly the same location where they forced Versailles onto Germany?

Why do Germans look so mongoloid? Is it because the modern Germans are Russian rape babies?

>Why didn't they go to war as soon as they had the chance?
They did.
There was no point in time sooner where they could have declared war without killing their own government.
And the major reason for that is their own allies being retarded. You can not complain about the militarization of the Rhineland when your own ally is putting his military there and threatens it. What the fuck do you expect?

Czechia and Slovakia were parts of Austria-Hungary and not Germany (this is now the third time that I’ve pointed this out to you). The Czechs and Slovaks were not “created at Versailles” and the only reason that there were Germans in the Czech borderlands is because the Bohemian crown invited them to settle there in the Middle Ages.

>The Czechs and Slovaks were not “created at Versailles”
No, but the nation was. The Slovaks never wanted to be under the Czechs, it was an authoritarian dictatorship.

>Beause its your personal story thats not based on anything.
Dude>The loss of trust is why appeasement failed and played a major role as to why the Chamberlain government was ousted.
Again you keep ignoring this.

>So you think that the UK was perfectly fine with NatSoc germany declaring Treaty of Versailles as totally useless
What do you think the policy of appeaement was? It recognized that Versailles was overly harsh towards the Germans.

>isn't it funny how you never mention the Treaty of Versailles
Except I did right here Again you embarrass yourself

Generally conflating the city of Danzig with the so-called “Polish Corridor” altogether and completely glossing over the German invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1939. I could be mistaken, but don’t they also imply that Germany “lost” the “Sudetenland” at Versailles?

>They did.
They didn't UK had casus belli to go to war as early as the remilitarization of the Rhineland like I said earlier as it was in violation of the treaty of Versailles. You yourself said:
>The actual motivation of the UK to start WW2 was that NatSoc Germany got too strong and didn't accept the Treaty of Versailles anymore
By your own logic they should've gone to war right then and there.

Well, anyone with a little bit of knowledge in history would know that Germany was more or less justified in their actions. The only thing sketchy was annexing the Czechia as a whole, but that was semi-understandable for a lot of reasons I can list.

So why have you erroneously claimed (several times, even after being corrected) that Czechoslovakia was “taken” from Germany at Versailles? Why have you disingenuously conflated the Munich Agreement concessions to Germany, Hungary and Poland in 1938 with the German invasion of March 1939?

>but but but it was part of Austria-Hungary before
That's the same as it being part of Bavaria before. Or are you claiming that Austrians are a different ethnicity than germans, but bavarians are not?

Czechslovakia (including sudetanland) was created by Versailles.
If Versailles would have cared about countries according to their ethnicities, it would have been Czech and Slovakia and the Sudetenland would have been split to Austria and Germany.
The reason why they mixed those different ethnicities together and made a border that included ethnical german area was because they wanted to split german ethnicities appart again, but having them weak enough in their specific countries to be ruled by soeone else.

If you don't think like that, just explain to me why the fuck they decided that czechoslovakia, with those borders, should be an own country?

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>for a lot of reasons I can list.
Go ahead

I get that they needed Skoda and other resources for their burgeoning war machine, but I don’t know if that really justifies violating the Munich Agreement and annexing Czech-majority territory.

you were talking to another person now.

But i will answer to you again.
I never claimed that Czechoslovakia was taken from Germans. The Sudetenland was.
And Czechoslovakia with that border was just totally artificial and just created to keep german areas weak.

Just tell me the reason why the fuck they would think that they could merge Czech and Slovakia into one country and add the German Sudentenland to it.... and then have it ruled by a Dictatorship?

Just tell me why they did that in Versailles, and you will give yourself the answer to your question.

The German Confederation was not a unified German state, and Czechia is only there because it was ruled by the Austrians (who were excluded from the unified German state). The “Sudetenland” was not permitted to join Germany because Czechia is indefensible without its mountainous borderlands, which were an integral part of the Bohemian crown (who in turn had invited the Germans to settle there).

I should also add that the inclusion of Czechia in the German Confederation was one of the reasons it failed to unify into a proper state during 1848-49.

It was a vital strategic choice. First off, Hitler didn't even start with the dissolution of Czechoslovakia. What happened was that Slovakia told the Czechs to fuck off and declared independence, in turn Hungary took Ruthenia. Emil Hacha, realizing that he was left in a rump state, just ceded the territory to Germany out of his own volition. This is misinterpreted often as "well, Hitler forced him to". No, Hitler didn't do jack shit. Hacha in return kept his place as the president of Czechia.

From a strategic perspective, Czechoslovakia's formerly close ties to Russia and France left Germany in a very precocious position in case of a war. While not moral or ethical, annexing the territory was vital otherwise it leaves a backdoor open straight into Germany. Then you have the factories situated there that would also be of use.

But in simplest terms, after Slovakia's declaration of independence, Czechia was done as a state.

Theyve always looked like that. Germany during the war would just put their most Aryan looking soldiers in the front of the cameras for propaganda purposes.

>It was a vital strategic choice. First off, Hitler didn't even start with the dissolution of Czechoslovakia. What happened was that Slovakia told the Czechs to fuck off and declared independence, in turn Hungary took Ruthenia. Emil Hacha, realizing that he was left in a rump state, just ceded the territory to Germany out of his own volition. This is misinterpreted often as "well, Hitler forced him to". No, Hitler didn't do jack shit. Hacha in return kept his place as the president of Czechia.
Also, to add to this, Poland prior to all of this also took advantage in taking territories from Czechoslovakia.

>just ceded the territory to Germany out of his own volition
>out of his own volition
lmao:
>Hitler told Hácha that as they were speaking, the German army was about to invade Czechoslovakia.[1] Hitler then gave the Czech President two options: cooperate with Germany, in which case the "entry of German troops would take place in a tolerable manner" and "permit Czechoslovakia a generous life of her own, autonomy and a degree of national freedom..." or face a scenario in which "resistance would be broken by force of arms, using all means."[8] Minutes of the conversation noted that for Hácha this was the most difficult decision of his life, but believed that in only a few years this decision would be comprehensible and in 50 years would probably be regarded as a blessing
He gave him an ultimatum and forced his hand.

Jeremyshitters on /his/ like to meme about le rapacious Slavs, but many Germans east of the Elbe are descendants of Germanized Balts/Slavs.

Why is his hand thing so fucking gay? When he cranks it back, he looks like one of those effeminate homosexuals.

Combination of taking female hormones and a diet of “Nazi beans”

Fucking thots

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>He gave him an ultimatum and forced his hand.
Don't fucking cite wikipedia sources here, please. You're embarrassing yourself. How could Hitler even force Hacha to "voluntarily" give Czechia to Germany? Why would Hacha even entertain such an offer? Hacha voluntarily gave himself under German governance because Czechia became a small rump state waiting to be garbled by. Poland already took territory from it, Hungary took territory from it and Slovakia declared independence. Hacha gave the territory to Germany in order to maintain order, keep himself in position and prevent annexation of the rest from other less wealthy states.

Didn’t he literally threaten to have the Luftwaffe level Prague?

No. Also, even if we assume he wanted to in this alternative scenario, he couldn't. Czechia was guaranteed by the Soviet Union, the UK and France. An invasion would have started WWII way too early. The reasons why the UK and France didn't end Germany is precisely because Hacha gave the territory willingly, without any forceful intervention from Hitler

They people in that pic are Polish.

Not him but not according to anything I can find on the topic.

>Don't fucking cite wikipedia sources here, please
You're free to check the citations to the page yourself but we both know you won't

> How could Hitler even force Hacha to "voluntarily" give Czechia to Germany?
By threatening military action like he did. Germany could've easily crushed Czechoslovakia's forces they were no match

>Why would Hacha even entertain such an offer?
To avoid military confrontation with one of the most powerful armies on earth would be a pretty good reason

>Hacha voluntarily gave himself under German governance
Hitler summoned him and forced him to make a decision on the ultimatum that very night under the threat of military action there was nothing voluntary about it.

Progressive. Pol standing up to transphobes

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Yes Goering himself admitted to it:
>According to Joachim Fest, Hácha suffered a heart attack induced by Göring's threat to bomb the capital and by four o'clock he contacted Prague, effectively "signing Czechoslovakia away" to Germany.[10] Göring acknowledged making the threat to the British ambassador to Germany, Neville Henderson, but said that the threat came as a warning because the Czech government, after already agreeing to German occupation, couldn't guarantee that the Czech army would not fire on the advancing Germans.[11] Göring however doesn't mention that Hácha had a heart attack because of his threat.
>without any forceful intervention from Hitler
Then why did Goering say otherwise?

here we go

Guess

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Those guys are slavs. Their t-shirts say Tarnow, Poland.

Wow! I sure love Europe being flooded with sandniggers now, Shlomo!

kek

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Source or youre a lying son of a bitch. There were NatSoc parties in the US in the early 1930s and Hitler actually took some ideas from the United States like eugenics

>I'm a cock loving nigger faggot - (You)
Thats fucking gay, mate.

>“I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”

how does this disprove hitler's homosexuality?

Kudod user. And desu, he wasnt wrong as much as I hate him.

WWII in Color

Hitler's Inner Circle

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#Hitler's_views_on_Arabs_and_Islam

U-Boats Westward. Shot on an actual u-boat with an actual crew. Also has a cameo by Karl Doenitz.

why do you seethe so hard when people tell the truth about your uncle adolf?

I dunno, a brief search reveals that Hungary negotiated their annexation as part of the subsequent First Vienna Award. It looks like Poland took advantage of the Munich Agreement to bully Czechoslovakia to hand over a small Polish-majority region before it fell into German hands. That’s admittedly pretty rude of them, but not exactly the Polish invasion wiping Czechoslovakia from the map that the earlier user alleged that it was.

Fuck ((((allied veterans))))

haha gottem XD

Does this now mean that homosexuality is inherently evil?

Based.

A low effort article isnt a proof either. How about some actual evidence? Do you have any proof Hitler fucked men? No? Thought so

I could make a website about your mom getting fucked by a turd. That doesnt prove anything nigger.

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No, but it certainly lends credence to the notion that many homophobes are themselves self-hating closeted gays.

This is a lie.

One of his lieutenants was bi though. Hitler eventually got fed up with his faggottry and had him shot.

“He” was taking female hormones, so it’s not gay for a transwoman to have sex with cis men, sweaty.

u mad niggerboy? Does my siperiority rustle your jimmies, boy?

Miss me with that kvetching.

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Let's not be ridiculous. Hitlers racial policies were pretty specific about the kinds of people he wanted to bring into his country, he didn't want Arabs.
I was referring to the Poland part specifically, I know Hungary made agreements to get Czechoslovak territory but as far as I can tell Poland made no such agreements with either Germany or Britain.

>that thumbnail
>You dream, Germania

This quote doesn't really make sense

America up until the 1960's was basically a WASP ethnostate

>le' old he hates fags so he must be gay meme.

>Implying this fantasy isnt just anogher tool to help fags jack off to images of straight dudes.

why so rustled man? It isn't the jews fault he was a tranny

So Hitler was an Islamophilic trans-woman, and the Wehrmacht was full of cross-dressers subsisting on “Nazi beans”. The absolute state of /pol/yps.

washingtonexaminer.com/nazi-doctors-hitler-was-gay-took-female-hormones

cope, tranny

>You're free to check the citations to the page yourself but we both know you won't
And what are the sources? Some liberal arts degree student?
>By threatening military action like he did. Germany could've easily crushed Czechoslovakia's forces they were no match
He didn't threaten though. He would also be unable to do such a thing even if he wanted to
>To avoid military confrontation with one of the most powerful armies on earth would be a pretty good reason
Why? The territory is getting annexed anyway. And also nobody even knew of Germany's full capabilities at that time.
>Hitler summoned him and forced him to make a decision on the ultimatum that very night under the threat of military actio
Oh god, are you just stupid as fuck or you're doing this on purpose?

>Then why did Goering say otherwise?
Again with the wiki shit. Goering didn't say this at all. Basically Goering in Nuremberg says that Hacha requested an audience with Hitler because he wanted help in dealing with the insurrections that were propping up that he couldn't handle. Goering says Hitler was concerned about the Soviet air field plans on Czech territory. Goering, out of his own volition with no plans whatsoever, after the meeting, says: "it would be a shame to bomb beautiful Prague". Here's what he says: "The intention of bombing Prague did not exist, nor had any order been given to that effect,". This is Tacha's account of what happened on that night:
archive.is/5UsDF
Very true quote, but unfortunately fake.

>no u
Gay kike. Go munch some hummus you cripple dick heeb.

idk I'm not passing judgement on all homosexuals, that's upf or you to decide. However Hitler's homosexuality is well established

Indeed, it looks like the Poles used Munich as justification for their own independent bullying of Czechoslovakia. I already conceded that was not a nice thing to do.

Quoted the wrong person

>hearsay
Still waiting for an actual evidence.

what do you think german soldiers would have thought if they knew they were dying in the cold for a literal tranny?

Give it up, Schlomo. This subversion strategy will never work.

Kind of hypocritical considering that whole Danzig thing isn't it?

>muh jews
how does this disprove Hitler's homosexuality?

>it...it’s fake I swear! Something something jews!
Lmao

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When you say that Hitler was homosexual, are you saying that she was attracted to cis men prior to her transition, or that she was a transwoman who identified as lesbian?
Look up their “Nazi bean” diet and cross-dressing habits.

why is anyone who points out hitler's homosexuality jewish? Or is it just anyone that says something that offends our poor wittle snowflake?

So do you have any evidence these studies are all big conspiracies or what? Seem accurate to me

You're just boring. Spamming this shit in every thread. Very weak, zero effort. What happened to Hitler was the devil and wanted to kill everyone? That narrative fell apart or something?

Where are the proofs? You made a claim and I want you to prove it. Can't? Then fuck off.

i'm saying xe identified as a straight woman. Xe was trans but still attracted to men this is why xe killed xerself after being pressured into marrying Eva braun. Unfortunately, trans suicide rates are very high

I strongly suspect that Germany could have negotiated the return of Danzig (one of their, IMO legitimate claims) once the port at Gdynia was complete.

>these studies
They're literally just scribbles in a notebook.

link to where I said he was the devil? You're being homophobic now. Xe just wanted a gay-tolerant world and russia is notoriously homophobic

*ahem*

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I already posted a study man, debunk it plz if you disagree

Why did Hitlers unit commander in WW1 deceive him as “awkward around and disinterested in” women?

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NOOOO SHUT IT DOWN IT'S DA J00Z REEEEE

So we need to recognize the ills of trans people and be more accepting of them in society or they will eventually genocide more Jews?

Describe him*

She probably hadn’t come to terms with her gender dysphoria. Do we know exactly when she began her hormone therapy?

>Hitler was gay, a tranny, jewish, had obe testicle, a junkie, shot himself, died of cyanide, was an alien,etc - t. Shlomo Goldberg

Jesus Christ! I hate white people now.
#RefugeesWelcome

I think Hitler blames Jews for all the transphobia. That was just his hang ups tho

It’s not up to me to pass judgement on all trans people though. Even though the Nazis did attract many trans individuals to their banner

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You shouldn’t hate anybody. Hitler killed millions because of her own self-loathing.

>study on a dead person
Retard.

That’s an odd conclusion to make. Why can’t we discuss truths about Hitler with you chimping out?

Perhaps the user in question has similar struggles with gender dysphoria.

I'm not falling for meddling, kike. This isnt reddit.

Reminder it wasn’t just Hitler

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I want evidence. Hearsay is as much of a proof as a 4channel post.

>being awkward and disinterested in women means you're a tranny
What a story Mark.

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Do you not see the tragedy in Hitler violently stomping out the very research that could have helped her with her own personal struggle?

Prove your claim.

It’s okay to be gay mate

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It is odd for someone who had homosexual rumors swirl around him his entire life

If everybody suspects someone is fat they usually are

Some of the earliest research into gender dysphoria occurred in interwar Germany. Hitler violently suppressed this research when she became Chancellor.

>by paulsacca
Oh, yeah. Why wouldnt I believe this random persom who isnt even real.

Proof?

>being so new that you've never read a story about some user being called gay by his family because he never had a gf

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Man, you should stop replying to these hebes.

The sex

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I never knew Hitler was a fag until this thread gonna spread the word

Seems real to me

Look up the history of gender dysphoria.

They're internet nazis. As an actual nationalist I hate them more than anyone else. Fat ugly incels ruining the cause.

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>when you realize it’s been 20 whole years since you destroyed europe
Wacky Krauts

Are you kidding that movie fucking sucks. It's generic as shit and the hippie anachronism is cringe.

You make teenagers shoot up fucking walmarts. Go fucking die. Youre worse than a kike.

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Warsaw 44 is amazing. Not only do the Nazis win, the whole thing is framed as an anti-war tragedy so every mistake that the Poles made in the uprising is on unapologetic display. It's probably one of the greatest war dramas ever made even with the fucking dubstep.

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Why else would Dr. Gobbles be so upset?

Because you are a Jew.

Jewish doctors could have helped Hitler come to terms with and better understand her gender dysphoria, thus potentially saving Europe from its second 20th Century destruction at the hands of Germany.

>getting this triggered over a quote from a movie

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I don’t follow?

youtube.com/watch?v=WjbsD-TYi3s

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE ASHAMED OF YOUR PAST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHITE PEOPLE CANT BE PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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imagine being proud of the Nazis out of all the things "white people" have done.

But nazis killed millions of white people why would I be proud of them

You can be proud that a transwoman of humble beginnings managed to defy the odds and become a head-of-state way back in the 1930s, but you must also acknowledge the suffering she caused.

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I didnt say be proud of the nazis. but the nazis were proud to be white.

The Nazis are tragic heroes in the same vein as the French during the 19th century.

hitler considered americans as his greatest threat, a nation of aryans lead by jews

wow so tragic to be belligerent assholes and get destroyed because of it.

they were the bravest and finest the world has ever seen and we may never see the like of them again, who would seek to change the whole world though it cost them everything.

the christians worship jesus because he supposedly died for them, but we scorn the entire nation that threw themselves into the fire to try and save us from what they knew was coming, and what we're suffering now.