Name one wrong thing from a narrative perspective

Admit it, in terms of actual storytelling you can't think of anything it didn't do well, literally all you have is
>muh nostalgia

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>Forced Comedy
>Pointless drama that made no sense.
>Plot holes from all characters
>Everyone is an orphan.
>Female hero loves Main Villian for no reason dispite the fact he killed his father, students, almost her own friend, & herself.


And majorly you can take litterally every character accept Leia and move still plays out the same.

Based lego Yoda poster

Very limited portrayal of teaching from Luke relative to her development in force use, only showing Leia using the force beyond sensing things as cheap plot armor, clunky sub plot on slaver planet, Rey and Kylo communicating repeatedly as opposed to having them meet under high stakes, "rebels" AKA Republic somehow subdued by Empire's hangover to the point of being a few hundred strong, warp speed shit everyone's talked about already, I could keep going

Well if you want just one thing I'll go with
>made ghosts able to use both physical force and force force, thus making ghosts stronger and better than the living Jedi due to the fact that they are immortal and can teleport
Masterful move from masterful world builders

Two thirds of the movie have no bearing on the rest of the narrative. It could start at the salt planet and nothing would be lost.

>Rebels still the underdogs despite winning last movie
>Rey already beating Kylo and Snoke dying means theres no actual villain for Episode 9 - hence why they dug up Sheev
>Movie literally acknowledges that the rest of the galaxy doesn't give a shit about the conflict

>Why did Luke leave a map to find him if he wanted to be in exile?

>Why did the bombs drop down with no gravity?

>What happened to the Knights of Ren?

>How did Rose and Finn find the stuttering guy, who just so happened to be exactly what they needed?

>How did Rose catch up to Finn so fast in the speeder?

>Why is the Casino planet using child slaves when droids exist?

>Why did the First Order spend the entire movie in a chase when they could've killed them at any point?

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>What is "The Casino Subplot"?

The only big issue was Holdo not telling everyone her plan. Every other issue was subjective

>Why did the bombs drop down with no gravity?
This is a retarded one desu, Star Wars has never used real space physics.

Actual storytelling? What story did it tell? The story makes no sense, there's your narrative problem. Right from the opening crawl we all knew something was terribly wrong. Last movie ends with a big victory for rebels, next movie starts with them in shambles right away. In Empire Strikes Back, the rebels won a big victory, so that made the Empire pissed and in turn made them step up their game by crushing the rebellion. But this is not the empire, this is a different organization. The Empire was defeated, in its place was a restored Republic. How in the hell did an organization emerge stronger than the Republic, and how did it kick so much ass after being kicked in the ass in the last movie? The whole premise of the story is flawed and weird. There's no explanation to any of it.

Then there's the character story of Rey and Luke, which is atrocious. One character's history is ignored and made a mess through out of character actions, while the other breaks the rules of the univere by being kickass at everything right from the get go. She has no arc, she's there to show everyone what to do, including a seasoned Jedi Master. There is no story, because there is no change. The only change is that Luke dies at the end, and the leader of the Empire (snoke) dies, who was almost useless as a character anyway, and is then replaced with Kylo Ren as the new leader, a weak character who has been bested by Mary Sue twice. It's such a weird narrative. However, I do believe there was some interesting ideas in there, like the force bond between Rey and Kylo, or even Luke being a cynical depressed Jedi (but the way it was handled was atrocious).

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Allow me to take the bait for a second.

From a narrative or storytelling perspective, this story is retarded. First off, Poe was correct in the first battle of the movie. If he had not destroyed that ship, it’s cannons would have blown them away later on, especially when they tried to retreat. It was also a good trade; several small bombers to one large expensive cruiser. But even if Poe was wrong, it wasn’t even really his fault as the bombers weren’t shown to have cut off communications of Leia. She could have told them to turn back and that Poe is to be ignored, but somehow they all broke chain of command to follow Poe. Seems absurd.

Another thing, in this “Epic” space battle, the destroyers send out only 4-5 fighters, when we know it should contain hundreds. Why send so few if you are trying to kill the last of the rebel scum?

As for your great space chase, why in the fuck did they not split up? Surely the large destroyer couldn’t go in 7 places at once? Why not have a the ships jump in all different directions? “Because fuel” bullshit, Holdo had enough fuel at the end of the space chase to pull off the Holdo Maneuver, showing that they could jump at any point during the chase. So rather than letting gods know how many die to save your precious flag ship, why not get them to jump and have the destroyer follow the flagship?

Speaking of the Holdo Maneuver, that breaks all of Star Wars cannon. Why has no one performed this type of attack before? Did no one ever think it was possible? If so, I call bullshit. As soon as people discovered the killing power of fucking rocks we used it to wage wars. We also used it to build cities. Should be the same here. Someone should have come along and realized they can just BTFO whatever they want with this maneuver. Death Stars are now sitting ducks with this new principle. Why build them when you can BTFO it with a couple of hyper jump jihads?

And that’s just a few flaws eddy boy

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>>Why is the Casino planet using child slaves when droids exist?
would you rather have a loli slave or some autistic clanker like c3po?

It's horrible as a second act of an intended three part story

Fucking this

To add to this poster, the stunt choreography in the fight against the guards was terrible.

>I'm gonna go destroy these books. Cause my character was rewritten to want to end the Jedi
>green goblin says dont destroy those books, they are important
>Green gremlin destroys them anyway, because?
>Jk the books were never there
This scene narratively made no sense and didnt serve the story in anyway

Yoda probably knew the books weren't there and wanted Luke to think they were destroyed? Nobody was confused about this scene. It also set up the idea that force ghosts could potentially use force powers which may be important in a future movie

That was my favourite part of the film and now I fucking hate it. I like good well constructed fight scenes and will come back to them again and again to watch.

But the more I watched that dumpster fire of a fight, the angrier I got. So many fucking mistakes. So many stupid ideas.

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Why did Finn call someone he met a day ago for 5 minutes?

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The entire main plot is a chase that makes no sense. The First Order says that they can't go faster because they'll overshoot the target or something. Then why don't they do that, double back and create a longer on the Resistance ships? When your entire plot centers on a strategy that makes literally no sense, your movie is fucked.

Pincer. Not longer.

Or hell you mean to tell me this advanced starship can't control it's speed enough to not overshoot them?

They had like 20 ships too why not send them to the front of the rebel ship instead of sitting behind the big one?

>Not by killing what we hate, but saving what we love
>*stops Finn from saving what he loves*
>*gets everybody she loves killed*

>There are only 12 (formerly 400) of "resistance" members
>There are apparently millions of the First Order mooks
>this scale is supposed to make sense

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So why did ALL the troops on not-Hoth had to be IN FRONT of the big door? and then all die in the process? Were they hoping to shoot a not-At-At with their rifles?

nothing happened

Luke was already gonna use a space molotov to destroy them, Yoda stopped him to give him a useless lesson and destroyed them himself anyway proving the lesson was useless but what your saying is that's the point of the scene everything else didnt matter not the sacred texts not Luke's action in wanting to destroy the last writing of the jedi or Yodas useless lesson it was only about showing ghosts have powers.