Was Charlie and the chocolate factory a socialist propaganda film?

You started outsourcing that to Asian countries that have poor quality control in their production lines. Also, more electronics

QC is only shit if you don't pay.

50s were capitalist too you moron.

I don't understand

He didn't said otherwise, he was just comparing then to now in regards to products quality

Outsourcing and consumerism destroyed craftsmanship completely. Planned obsolescence is from banks lending credit, which is basically the bank moving debt from person to person.
Commercial success now rides on quantity over quality.

we don't know it's complaining, maybe it is just pointing out facts like how journalism used to.

Wonka made it for poor children who can't afford much candy. He literally says that in the movie.

It is funny how iphones had smooth edges, almost as if they were purposefully designed to fall out of your pocket and break....

>its another "hedonistic faggot complains about the culture that made them" episode
I always hate these
also this is a riff on the types of "socialists" that use capitalist hollywood media to argue their points, right?

That's survivorship bias, you brainlet.

i dont have a case for my iphone se (im posting from it right now!) and i drop it all the time and its not broke

It's more true of old iphones I think. There's a reason it was so common to see their screens smashed

yes; proof.
twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1170792340744572928

you can pay for better QC which = more time = more labour

Look at phones DOA like flagships, issues are pretty low

Under marxism, products aren't built because nobody has the motivation to do anything if they get the same wage anyway.

havent read the book but in the movie werent there people who didnt want it released?

>marxist create things that last forever
Tell that to the sowjet union

My sister has an air conditioner from the 50s. Barely works. Leaks water. Her landlord refuses to replace it because it still works.
It has cost the landlord more because of the electric bill to keep the Old AC, but it would cost more any given month to replace it.
What's the solution to this?

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things are still made just government decided necessities and nothing else. I actually hope that america finally does become a "marxist utopia" so these idiots that praise this system will finally be put to the firing squad.

Nothing lasts forever chief. Anything with moving parts will wear down, anything made of metal will rust, anything made of plastic will break down.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

>The Great Leap Forward ended in disaster in 1961. Crop and industrial production plummeted and a famine resulted, causing millions of deaths. (Estimates of the number of deaths have ranged from 2 million to 50 million.) Finally, the worsening situation forced the government to reduce the size of the communes, restore family farm plots, and put into place work bonuses and other incentives.

>Even before Mao died, peasants were abandoning collective farming and producing food on their own to sell at rural free markets. Throughout China, many became peddlers, bike repairers, shoemakers, and other private entrepreneurs, working for a profit. Private moneylenders offered loans to these budding capitalists to finance their businesses. Wherever private enterprises emerged, they seemed to flourish.

>None of this activity was legal. But local officials usually ignored the lawbreakers. The Beijing government judged local officials on how well they ran their towns and cities. These officials discovered that privately owned businesses reduced unemployment, cut prices, provided better consumer goods and services, increased tax revenues, and tamped down social unrest.

crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-24-1-a-communism-capitalism-and-democracy-in-china

But the implication here is that capitalism is the problem, retard. Read the OP.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

>The Phoebus cartel existed to control the manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs. They had intended the cartel to last for thirty years (1925 to 1955). The cartel ceased operations in 1939 owing to the outbreak of World War II. The cartel included manufacturers Osram, General Electric, Associated Electrical Industries, and Philips, among others.

>The Phoebus cartel created a notable landmark in the history of the global economy because it engaged in large-scale planned obsolescence to generate repeated sales and maximize profit. It also reduced competition in the light bulb industry for almost fifteen years. Critics accused the cartel of preventing technological advances that would produce longer-lasting light bulbs.

>if they get the same wage anyway.
Literally never happened, literally was never p[roposed by any marxist, why the fuck are people outside /his/ or Yea Forums allowed to have opinions on things.

No. But The Promised Neverland sure as hell is.

More to the point, it's an ingeniously evil capitalistic move. By making that, he removes the need for food.
If you have no need of food, you don't need to spend money on food.
All that money can now be spent on candy.
He's trying to kill all noncandy industry.

He used a tribe of African Pygmies that he """paid""" in food. His factories about as socialist as the antebellum South.

She should fuck the landlord for a new AC. Also you should be taking pictures or a video of the act to blackmail him later on.

not enough information there, pepe shitposter.

a ton of solutions to this but you're so stupid you'd rather ask Yea Forums than fix the problem yourself. 0/10 apply yourself

True. There is a kenworth fridge at my grandparents cabin that is dated to 1950 something and it still works. The stove also works and it's old af as well

Same retarded logic that the MUH BIG PHARMA faggot crowd uses. Of fucking course if I can make a long lasting product I will damn well make and produce it. They argue that companies make cheap shit that they keep reselling you. Well let's assume that's right: I would still sell my long term product since I will still be beating the other guys, even if I overall don't sell as much, but that's still better than nothing

And remember that companies cannot force you to buy something. You buy it willingly. Look at the fact that walmart is one of the biggest companies. Their business model is "we sell cheap stuff of shit quality." It works well because that's what people want.

Luxury, built-to-last products exist. Speed Queen makes the best washers and driers, but nobody buys them because they're expensive in the short term.

>Of fucking course if I can make a long lasting product I will damn well make and produce it
There's no incentive to because people will just by one and will never feel the need to buy another.
>I would still sell my long term product since I will still be beating the other guys
Consumers often don't take that into account.

>making an essay about a little detail about a movie, an essay bigger than the fucking movie you are talking about

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>under capitalism
stopped reading there. capitalism isn't an imposed system

>but that's still better than nothing
you are fucking retarded
do you think companies want "better than nothing"
no
they want as much as possible and more
they want to squeeze out every drop they can, they're not going to settle for a little bit

Look at American politics and tell me this is the case.

they still make products built to last you're just a retard the feels the need to compulsively upgrade whenever a new product is made

Mercantilism and trading are a natural development of societies, demonizing this is straight up stupid.

>capitalism is just trading
read a book

You faggots realize this tweet is making fun of Marxist YouTube people, right? Dudes like Hbomberguy and Lindsay Ellis and such.

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>two hour video
who the fuck has time for this shit?

They incentivise you to buy these products by small incremental "improvements", effectively outdating their old products constantly.

>Lindsay Ellis
her hobbit videos are really well done though

Americans don't understand irony.

That being said, that tweet does have an undeniable truth about capitalism in it.

poe's law

it's a pasta.

That doesn't change the fact that the old products can still be used properly. hell there is still a fucking market demand for boomers who want to buy flip phones. people should treat buying a phone like buying a car

Not really. Warranties exist and there are a good amount of products that last a while (cars, game consoles, televisions, etc). They aren’t built to break, they break due to usage.

yeah all those cops with guns are there to protect you, not private property

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>hell there is still a fucking market demand for boomers who want to buy flip phones

flip phones are great you can throw it in the corner and half a year later pick it up and the battery will still be half full

Shit used to be built up to a standard, now it's built down to a price.

>Are built to break
Yes and then a company enters the market with a new line of products that don't break and instead sell new products on the basis on innovation and you realize that selling products that are "built to break" in order to retain long-term customers is an absurdly retarded business model.

>new products based on innovation
small improvements that are constantly outmoded, rendering older ones disposable

exactly I'm saying there's anything wrong with flipphones. they're extremely reliable but its just not what the market wants

>small improvements
Depends on the product.
>rendering older ones disposable
I have yet to buy anything ever that absolutely necessitated me to upgrade to the newest available asap. Even Windows allows you to skip a generation. Fuck - Windows XP was supported for 13 years.

retard. the phone doesn't stop working after the new one comes out. you can probably keep the same phone for 10 years before it needs replacing it doesn't become obsolete over night

>t. Brainlets

If I can sell my long term shit and people buy my stuff rather than my competitors cheap crap, then no shit I'm gonna do it

It's more Plato's Republic with a dash of ancient Greek virtue ethics
>Series of tests to determine who is wise, just, and playful
>A big moral test for most of the other kids, Slugworth's monetary enticement for stealing trade secrets, isn't even depicted as a moral dilemma for Charlie as poverty stricken Charlie is somehow above such temptations.
>Charlie's moral dilemma is simply breaking Wonka's rule about fizzy lifting drink
>Charlie accepts full responsibility for drinking the lifting drink and letting his passion for fun overwhelm his duty to Wonka(this passion for fun is related to his well suitedness to run the factory)
>Charlie does not seek out becoming the heir to the Wonka factory, but is appointed by another Philosopher King(Wonka)
>In the end, Charlie is able to balance his playful nature with the wisdom, justice, loyalty needed to run the factory and take care of the oompa loompas and candy lovers of the world

A Marxist interpretation is real dumb because the Oompa Loompas are a permanent underclass of exploited workers who are never depicted as alienated from the labor they provide to Wonka and Charlie is never depicted as being very class conscious of his low class background relative to the rich little girl/anyone else.

What was the last product you've seen, other than maybe sweets/pharmaceuticals, that were marketed according to how "long lasting" they were?

Get a Nokia phone, I've my Nokia Lumia 520 since it came out and never had an issue. I've dropped it a thousand times and it doesn't even have a scratch. People make memes about the 3010, but Nokia still does the save thing they've always done.

Cont.
Also note that planned obsolescence and even a product that is selfreplenshing isn't inherently related to Marxism.
Marxism is about class and exploitation. Contingent features of capitalist market economies, such as anti-consumer behavior, shouldn't be the basis of a Marxist analysis unless connect to some other core principle.
And it's not like we are shown that the Oompa Loompas are subversively making everlasting candy to create the conditions of a socialist revolution. They are happy slaves in the movie.

>A Marxist interpretation is real dumb because the Oompa Loompas are a permanent underclass of exploited workers who are never depicted as alienated from the labor they provide to Wonka
If anything, Oompa Loompas are the Greek Choir.