What's the point of these movies that don't even have a moral story or any character development?
The beginning was interesting with the young man fighting to cure his father and deal with the responsibility of an ape but they didn't do anything with it. The ending was also pointless. Nothing happened, nothing was resolved.
Why? They didn't even set up anything for the next movie except "Lol apes in the forest". There was no drama, no moral story. It was just a long action sequence from when he was put in the "prison".
Michael Gutierrez
Its a coming of age movie nig. Best movie is the first one when caesar is little
Lincoln Flores
That’s a poor justification The whole story is just a retelling of exodus, ceaser is Moses. Once you start to view the movies from this Old Testament biblical lense it all starts to make a lot more sense as far as theme and thesis, the humans aren’t the main characters in any of the movies, even the first although that one gets the closest
Camden Howard
>They didn't even set up anything for the next movie So you didn't actually watch it then?
Gabriel Hughes
I watched it yesterday.
Noah Lopez
You are-- like myself-- still judging movies by an antiquated metric: the presence of drama, which I would define loosely as "moral conflict between or within human beings."
Audiences used to hold drama as a baseline necessity for all movies (except pornographic ones). This has changed. Audiences are now OK without drama, and can make do with "things that happen on-screen" provided the things that happen are visually unusual or stimulating enough.
Why is there no drama in Rise of the Planet of the Apes? It would be accurate enough to say "because there isn't really a main character," as good dramas usually have a main character.
But I think it goes deeper than that. In order for drama to exist, there must be a dialectic-- a philosophical or moral framework underpinning the movie, by which characters' actions can be deemed "right" or "wrong." Typically by the end of the film, a subtextual moral lesson arising from this dichotomy will be communicated to the audience.
Jurassic Park is a good example. It's a popcorn creature feature about dinosaurs, but what it's really about is Dr. Grant overcoming his fear of parenthood and learning to care for children. The dialectic would be something like "living on your own is not sustainable-- you must live for others, and protect the family unit." The lawyer character disobeys this dialectic; he abandons the two children in the car, so he is punished by getting eaten by the T-Rex. Grant, by contrast, puts himself in great danger in order to protect the children again and again, and therefore he is not eaten but saved by the T-Rex.
Dylan Baker
Have sex
Aiden Sanders
Based
Logan Russell
Then why are you suspiciously unaware of the entire "viruses decimating society" arc they L I T E R A L L Y spend screentime setting up? Assuming you totally disregard apes starting their own society in the forest while adapting to the dregs of humanity, which is the central plot of the next film.
Ayden Wright
>saying nothing in as many words as possible >finding no drama in a movie that's literally about oppression >ignoring the broader narrative arc of the consequences of man playing God in JP Nigga you dumb.
Adam Perez
I'm well aware of the setting but a setting is not a story. It doesn't have any interesting characters or any real drama
Luke Sanders
Its a metaphor for black people. Wasnt it obvious?
Xavier Wilson
>Doesn't have any interesting characters or any real drama I think you missed that fact that the humans aren't what the movies are about. Koba, Caesar, Maurice etc are who the story is about and who the drama revolves around.
You're allowed to not like it, but don't deny that the new trilogy isn't extremely well done
My favorite planet of the apes prequel so far is Black Panther.
Nathaniel Ward
>muh character development you fags are the worst
Dylan Cook
the original pota came out during the civil rights movement this one comes out during obama's presidency and openly advocates for revolution, the audience is supposed to empathize with the ape overthrowing civilised rule...
you join the dots B L M
Benjamin Miller
>I see boogeymen everywhere
Joseph Cruz
>I have no eyes and don't realise hollywood's role is to socially condition the public
Nicholas Rivera
>movie needs a moral >movie needs character development That said, there actually is character development and a moral, but judging on how you keep calling it a "moral story" for some reason, I suspect you're the retarded type of autist.