His life has been incredible, he’s really a one in a trillion type of person. I’ve never met someone like him, so how could you possibly have someone play him in a movie? Even the SNL impersonations are complete and total shit and miss the essence of why he’s so loved.
Is it possible to make a kino biopic or are people simply too biased to ever give it a fair and unbiased shot? His life has been pure kino but I think Hollywood would go with some comic book villain angle.
>Who else would do something like this as president?
use an incorrect chart to prop up his windbaggery about dorian? no one
Dominic King
Danny McBride
Caleb Lee
"40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan...And now it’s the tallest." —bragging about his building following the9/11 attackon the World Trade Center in an interview with WWOR/UPN 9 News in New York, Sept. 11, 2001
It would be interesting to see a true biopic without comedy. People seem to think he's just an idiot who fell into insane levels of success but there's gotta be more to him than a simple charicature
Owen Carter
Shmiel Liebowitz is a great actor and spitting image too.
kek I forgot about this quote. It's really amazing how obfuscated everything about him is when every week he says something retarded.
Aaron Young
>DA JOOO say the line, shill.
Austin Jones
>I've never met someone like him Yeah becuase you haven't met him faggot
Landon Ross
only other suggestion would to have Cuba Gooding as Carson since he already played him but you got to have Idris there somewhere
Cooper Nguyen
>as likeable or has as much charisma s him
Xavier Robinson
Robert Redford could probably do a decent job if he put on some weight.
Alexander Reed
>The only ppl I know who hate this guy are overreactionaries Do you think your anecdotes represent the vast and wide-reaching criticisms of the President or something?
Do I need to explain why having bankers write tax bills is bad?
Brandon Jones
Unironically idris elba.
Ryder Jones
>Mads as Putin >Bank Manager as Pence >Idris as Carson Based Also add in pic related as Epstein
I mean, the last handful of shooters have all cited Trump's rhetoric as some sort of "last straw" to take action against "muh invasion" so...
Carson Torres
>having Hollywood liberals make your conservative horror show seem like anything other than pure villainy and malfeasance The audacity of you /pol/cel dicklets. The only chart that would make sense for you fags would be to place James Woods in all of those roles. Enjoy your subpar biopic- not unlike your below average politicians.
Austin Rivera
Based tinfoil hat schizo
Juan Ramirez
Because it happens every political thread. >N-no, we're not violent, we just want debate
you are usually the desperate type if you are a serious and bootyblasted right-winger in the first place, as you across the board have lower IQs', are prone to less impulse control and aren't as educated. ;)
David King
Put down the thesaurus champ, this isn't r/chapotrannyhouse
Jack Torres
you know over a dozen people were injured there, right? He hit an entire street worth of people.
James Reyes
idk Jake Bousey as young Trump and someone like Tom Selleck as older Trump why so many seething euros on today?
Leo Anderson
Danny DeVito >his Frank Reynolds character isn’t tthat far off
Aiden Howard
>leftists >people
Luke Barnes
>anyone even knows what chapohouse is do you attend /pol/nigger meetings or something? Where you discuss the same three or four insults you get paid to say? It's really baffling that you think anyone here is even on Discord. Or whatever outlet your "enemy" is on.
>my political opponents aren't actually people yes, the facts over feelings crowd...
Wyatt Lewis
fucking seething at an anonymous shitposting board
Gavin Rivera
isn't it funny how by your own rules, Mr. Cletus from Alabama is just as retarded as a black man from NY? And just as prone to lack of impulse control and crime?
;)
Hudson Ramirez
>u seething if you call me stupid No, I'm just calling you a retard. I'm not "seething". Zoomer.
Carson Fisher
Come back to reality
Matthew Sullivan
>Zoomer Ah yes, now the memes come out
Hudson Perez
if you are crying about chapohouse, you are in fact a zoomer. >da chapo da tranny these are recent memes, they usually are posted by actual children. Which you are.
Carson Martin
The El Paso shooter was eco fascist who wanted to decrease the population by killing people so that UBI and Universal Healthcare would work. Dayton shooter was a faggot incel ANTIFA supporter Neck yourself nigger
Jaxson Scott
oh woah then whoever did it should totally go to jail
Jaxon Cox
>is a leftist >plays vidya gaems What in the actual fuck. I'm not even supposed to exist! How am I even here right now?!
Jordan Phillips
El Paso shooter literally had an entire manifesto about protectionism and fighting the "invasion" and the you literally made up alternative facts about the Dayton shooter.
Shill harder, faggot. Your lies are easily debunked for anyone with a pulse.
Jace Brown
I think you need to actually read his manifesto, idiot.
Zachary Howard
He did? He's in prison for over a lifetime.
Isaac Nguyen
Why is is so easy to makes leftypol trannies seethe? All you have to do is post a picture of trump and they go into a rage.
Ryan Sanchez
The standard /pol/ response >a-actually that white supremacist trump supporter was really a registered democrat berniebro kek, like clockwork :)
Connor Stewart
El Paso terrorist was a 100% /pol/tard. The dayton guy killed a bunch of niggers and was a hardcore incel.
they are not the same, they've been waiting 4 years now for the world to end and putin to invade their household
Jose Young
I think Benedict Wong may have to lose weight
Chase Wilson
Again, I don't know if you're getting paid or something, but he LITERALLY wrote down parts of Trump's speech on a migrant invasion.
You think you'd relish in the fact that these violent shooters are quoting your God Emperor? Doesn't that make you proud? I also think it's funny how you dropped your argument about the Dayton shooter, since you know he wasn't an ANTIFA sympathizer, you just said that to lie like a complete faggot.
Jordan Carter
Ahem, I’d like to interrupt this thread with an important announcement
It's gotta be animated so they can get Psychicpebbles to voice him. He's the only person who actually does a good impersonation of him. youtu.be/4ePv99VANjE
Either canadians or people lost on their way to Yea Forums
Bentley Murphy
that didn't disprove him
Carson Gonzalez
>imagine having this saved >imagine posting this when you are losing arguments
Isaiah Wood
Yes so that UBI and UH could work you utter retard. >Alternative Facts He was a self described leftist who "retweeted posts that supportered the ANTIFA movement and opposed ICE agents and police officers" Again neck yourself nigger
Jacob Allen
>He was a self described leftist who "retweeted posts that supportered the ANTIFA movement and opposed ICE agents and police officers" Except he wasn't, this is literally all made up shit. Why don't you btfo me and prove that? Protip: Alex Jones getting red in the face and crying about it, doesn't count.
The El Paso terrorist drove 9 hours from his wealthy suburb to kill mexicans (and no other ethnicity.) It was planned and executed with his ideology in mind. The dayton guy was a leftist but he killed niggers and women. Not much of a motivation there.
Jaxon Bennett
>imagine actively getting into arguments on Yea Forums and getting mad at shitposts also not whoever you were having a shitfest with so whatever you respond with I'll just ignore
Carson Richardson
So Trump did 9/11 so he could brag about his building being the tallest?
Cameron Cooper
I'm not the one crying about imagined trannies, user.
Joshua Harris
>HURRRRRRRRRRR
Michael Cooper
Not that guy but you type like a massive fag
Isaiah Howard
I accept your concession.
Jose Allen
There isn't more to him though. He's a raging malignant narcissist moron who achieved about the same net worth as Paris Hilton despite having more resources and time. He's literally only POTUS because some powerful people wanted to destabilize the free world and Dems sucked Hillary's dick. He probably didn't even want the job. Just the applause. There's no deeper layer to a narcissist besides a black hole of crippling insecurity. I guess the film could be about that if you want Oscar bait.
Jaxson Wright
OP here, please guys, stay on topic. Enough of the seethe/incel crap, just stay on topic fellas. Thanks
Evan Ross
>His life has been incredible, he’s really a one in a trillion type of person. I’ve never met someone like him, so how could you possibly have someone play him in a movie?
Oh god could you suck his dick any harder ? The faggot still hasnt given us the wall but he finds the time to suck jew and arab dick all the while trying to inact red flag gun laws. Fuck him.
Lucas Wright
Darrell Hammond.
John Scott
It is not our friend.
Chase Wood
When did the El Paso shooter ever literally mention universal healthcare?
Jacob Turner
I wasn’t only referring to his presidency in my post, he’s been a public figure for decades and has been really popular in multiple spheres. You think just because he might not ever build the wall his life is any less interesting?
Benjamin Powell
>he’s been a public figure for decades lol he was on WWE and has a Roast.
Why are you so desperate to diminish his popularity? I don’t care whether or not his politics are something you agree with, how can you deny his popularity? He was a household name for decades.
he's a household name because he's been the subject of mockery since before your zoomer ass was born, user. I'm really not sure why his supporters only have the brain capacity to remember him from 2016 onward.
Carter Ortiz
Good luck to any screenwriter trying to boil down his presidency into a movie or miniseries.
There’s like a new controversy every week and then it’s forgotten about to make room for the next one.
Asher Phillips
no point in trying user
Luis Turner
>he's a household name because he's been the subject of mockery
Even if that’s true how does that diminish his cultural relevance? That’s making my point.
Hudson Scott
Do you even remember the Birther Movement?
Matthew Lee
It's not like he was some sort of paragon of cultural relevance, he was a meme almost 20 years ago. He was "that goofy billionaire to mock" in the 80s. Then he got really famous for his birther shit.
Henry Diaz
here we go
Luis Barnes
what? He was literally the mainstream face of the birther movement, the biggest proponent of "muh birth certificate" and the most well-known celebrity pushing it. Why do you zoomers have no memory past a tik tok video? Trump was a colossal goofnigger.
Jaxon Long
>Achieving ambitions social projects like universal healthcare and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed Beans would be dependent and many other ethnicities as well.
I like how your /pol/faggot brain literally pretends to ignore his "we need to remove millions of illegals, by force if necessary" when talking about UBI, since this isn't actually a defense of UBI, but the things in which he feels is a detriment to any such idea.
Can you even read? He's not "a leftist".
Alexander Morris
So want to make The Wrestler but with Donald Trump? Or maybe Interview with a Vampire? Except the vampire spouts nonsense for 20 seconds and then wanders off so we watch the ghostwriter struggle to finish The Art of the Deal with bullshit and it's really about him?
Eli Howard
Protip: it's possible to be a racist, homicidal maniac and leftist at the same time.
>>Achieving ambitions social projects like universal healthcare and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed that's literally not saying "I support UBI".
Camden Rivera
The birther stuff might’ve helped him launch into politics (I don’t actually know), maybe not though because I think he ran for president in 2000 or something. But the birther stuff is even recent compared to his public life, what about the TV shows, the casinos and hotels and global brand he had?
Cameron Gray
What happened?
Robert Ortiz
He's not even remotely left though? Are you just pretending to be retarded? He's not defending UBI...
Ayden Morris
His "global brand" is literally a money laundering scheme that isn't worth as much as he pretends it is.
Except he didn't, you're just extrapolating that from his vague statement. You're doing these gymnastics because you're apparently asshurt to neverending shit that these shooters are right-wing.
Lucas Hall
He literally is. In his mind, he knows it's going to happen but in order for it to succeed, people have to die but go off you utter niggers.
Jackson Reed
Zach Hadel should voice him.
Camden Campbell
Idris Elba as Kushner :^)
Wyatt Murphy
>extrapolating from his vague statement >n-n-no, that's not at all what he meant, he was a nazi, trust me! Nah man, he's a lefty. Sorry, pal.
Benjamin Jackson
That's not what he's even saying you disingenuous fucking faggot.
Just admit you're wrong, it will save you the embarrassment. You're really reaching with this.
Justin Campbell
Ye, i know thats two different posters. Thats why i laught at the top one who got btfo:d while referring to btfo:ing post.
Brandon Foster
The dude who played Chuck on better call Saul would be a good Trump
Logan Young
He's not you stupid /pol/cel, nowhere in his pages long manifesto does he defend "left" leaning ideologies, you are married to this single sentence, which doesn't even fucking defend UBI, because it's the only instance you have to extrapolate a different narrative from, that's what your handlers keep coaching you to use.
Read the rest of it, retard. Learn how you're being had.
Brody Clark
Populist protectionist socialism is his jam. He made the deficit and debt go up. He tries to pick winners and losers and manipulate markets and control means of production unilaterally. That's textbook socialism in the literal sense. You can be racist nationalist and socialist. It's called NatSoc. And there's a reason NeoCons aren't ok with that. Charlie Chaplin made a movie about the rise of that sort of thing.
Benjamin Hall
>You can be racist nationalist and socialist. It's called NatSoc. You're an actual, real life...retarded person.
>the "Nazis are socialists" meme Hi, Dinesh. Are you still getting paid by the Koch Brother(s) to spin that?
Nolan Davis
I'm not american, but I love the way he turned the left completely insane. that's some next level 5D trolling there.
Wyatt King
>nowhere in his pages long manifesto does he defend "left" leaning ideologies He's a eco fascist. Read the goddamn manifesto you fucking brainlet
Nicholas Stewart
The Chuck guy is retired now, formerly not retired.
Adrian Anderson
Can you define the left-right political spectrum for us?
Jacob Turner
>he's a liberal boogeyman because he's an eco fascist What even is your bizarrely held position anymore? How is that even "left" to begin with? Fucking christ, am I just getting baited? The majority of his manifesto is literally sucking off Trump and his rhetoric. Have you even read it?
Angel Phillips
First off, Nazis weren't socialists. But you probably knew that or are being paid to pretend to think that.
Isaac Morgan
What is socialism to you?
Hudson Collins
>Read the goddamn manifesto you fucking brainlet It's all protectionist, nationalist, conservative ramblings blaming minorities from his ills and is shockingly written after a Trump rally.
Really rattles my brain balls, faggot.
Gabriel Green
the means of production being owned exclusively by the working class or "muh working State", which was literally NOT Nazi Germany if you ever read a fucking book in your entire life.
Isaac Torres
You dodged the question. I'll ask again: What properties make political viewpoints appear on different parts of the scale?
Nathaniel Torres
Tarrant was an eco fascist, not the el paso terrorist.
Ryder Barnes
>Is it possible to make a kino biopic or are people simply too biased to ever give it a fair and unbiased shot? I believe this is impossible, at least currently. Just look at several people in this thread, they're so upset and moved just by the topic. Also it goes the other way, I think if it were made by people who loved him it'd be too much praise. Let's be honest, a Hollywood biopic of Trump would be too dramatic and either fall too much into a hate movie or a praise movie. I'm not sure if anyone now would be able to see that Trump isn't really a bad guy, he's done both good and bad things, like I said it'd be years before we'd see an unbiased approach.
Austin Nelson
>What properties make political viewpoints appear on different parts of the scale? I don't speak retard, what does this even mean? There are objective qualifiers to left/right ideology. That's not an opinion based discussion.
Ryder Hall
You guys didn't actually read or understand my post. How Trumpian. Being a disabled lesbian black tranny is probably hard. But being a rational moderate might just be slightly harder around here. Nevermind.
Mason Martinez
Nazis weren't socialist in practice or policy so why do you keep holding on to that dead meme?
Grayson Wilson
Shit, are you a professional dodgeball player? How retarded do you have to be to not understand the question: DEFINE THE LEFT-RIGHT POLITICAL SCALE. Or in other words: WHAT MAKES A PARTY LEFT VERSUS RIGHT?
Henry Parker
Do you see conservatives bitching about life styles and how it's destroying the environment? Fuck no. You know who has been for awhile though? Leftists. Speaking of which, fascists are leftists. Now fuck off chump
Luke Cooper
do you want me to define a complex relationship of ides in three sentences or less now?
Thomas Morgan
Both were user
Noah Gonzalez
>Do you see conservatives bitching about life styles and how it's destroying the environment? Yes? Conservatives police behavior constantly. >fascists are leftists nope, Fascismo is right-wing. I know this hip new "fascists are left" meme is exciting for you, but it's ahistorical and backed by fucking nothing.
You're stupid, mate. The far-left can lean in totalitarianism, but fascimo is strictly right wing.
Christopher Martinez
Use however many sentences you want. It doesn't have to be perfect, I just want to understand how you think it works.
Juan Murphy
>Speaking of which, fascists are leftists They aren't. Do you not have the ability to look up what words mean?
Charles Fisher
Not him, and Hitler's definition of socialism explicitly contrasted that of Marx. But Strasserism and beefsteak nazis did exist.
Isaiah Ross
This is a photoshop. Trump 100% has control over Mellania and all of the women he has dated.
Oliver Watson
>Conservatives police behaviour constantly user, not sure how to put this, but conservatives are literally the ones advocating for free speech and individual responsibilities, whereas democrats want thoughtcrime laws
Leo King
Now they really don't? That's literally leftists ALL THE FUCKING TIME
Cooper Miller
...and they were either killed or forcibly put back into the fold by Hitler.
Adrian Allen
I'll ask you too: define the left-right political spectrum for me and we'll start to get to the bottom of who's the fascist.
Jayden Long
No*
Blake Rodriguez
>but conservatives are literally the ones advocating for free speech and individual responsibilities The President literally wants to ban violent video games, impose red flag laws in every state and has wanted to make it harder to criticize the government. You people are mentally fucking warped if you think conservatives have a track record of being pro freeze peach when literally every time they get triggered, they've targeted the free press and the First Amendment.
Dominic Bailey
we're still waiting for the internment camps and for trannies and gays to be rounded up like the left promised us after he won
Dylan Peterson
Just google it holy shit
Matthew Watson
You should play him
Josiah Perez
this just boils down to "the people I don't like are da real fascists", right? You don't have any intellectual honesty to the definition of the word, so why would you care? Fascism is a right-wing ideology, that's a fact. You don't like that, so you're going to do the song and dance of "DA REAL FASCISTS ARE MUH POLITICAL OPPONENTS", and I'm not interested in that.
Daniel-Day Lewis but he retired just so they couldn't get him to do it.
Jacob Rogers
The Right is nationalistic, protectionist, closed-bordered, smaller grouped, potentially"smaller governance".
Evan Cruz
So you're afraid of winning over me with arguments? I literally want to understand how you people think when it comes to fascism, because something tells me you're brainwashed into believing the orange man bad nazi incel shit.
Caleb Sanders
I'm not going to indulge some blog post written about his FISA warrants thing almost a decade ago.
Cameron Butler
Because it's literally in the title. "Nationalist Socialist German Worker's Party." And because they did indeed control markets and means of production "for the people" by means of a single party and leader. Literally textbook socialism. It's not my fault if you're suffering from cognitive dissonance fapping to Ronald Reagan free markets while wearing your Wehrmacht Stahlhelm.
Henry Gutierrez
>The President literally wants to ban violent video games, impose red flag laws in every state and has wanted to make it harder to criticize the government. Citation needed.
>freeze peach Is Yea Forums as scary as your non-binary twitter friends told you it is?
John Allen
>The President literally wants to ban violent videos When did he say that? >Impose red flag laws To appease the batshit gun grabbers (which is retarded) >Make it harder to criticise the government Making up shit about him and trying to stop those who are doing it isn't a bad thing you dumb faggot >
John Martinez
So that would make the left globalist, open-border, large group, and potentially large government? Follow-up question: Define fascism for me?
Bentley Torres
>Yeah, I don't agree with the video game thing, but it will probably never get off the table. This, it won't, it's just hot air. Just like R's won't ever repeal Roe v Wade and D's won't ever take/ban guns.
Blake King
>So you're afraid of winning over me with arguments? If you cared even remotely about facts, you wouldn't be married to American Conservatism, since its a dead fucking ship going nowhere and doesn't change by design. >you people Not everyone is your meme boogeyman. >because something tells me you're brainwashed into believing the orange man bad nazi incel shit. I have literally never called Trump a Nazi in this thread, that's you trying to build a strawman. I think that white nationalists and by extension, Naziboos, find common ground in protectionist candidates...so by default, that would be Trump, deserved or not.
John Allen
>it's in the title, therefore it's real Absolute fucking wew at how stupid you are. I'm done.
Thomas Reed
I'm a libertarian, buddy. But conservatism is the closest I get to in common political parties. Also, I'm not american. I didn't mean that you actually called Trump a nazi, more the overarching meme that white men are bad, PoC are literally Jesus, "believe women", MeToo, all that shit. It's like a sect.
Michael Martinez
Mussolini was the editorial Italy's most popular socialist magazine before he declared for nationalism. Fascism is traditionalist, but in no way conservative or right wing as expressed in modern political parlance.
You're correct that equating fascism with modern leftism is dishonest. But saying its antithetical to the right wing is correct.
Evan Diaz
Except it wasn't the German workers who ceased the means of production, it was an oligarch of German aristocrats in the Nazi Party who ran the economy.
Why is our educational system this shit?
Liam Reed
>Fascism is traditionalist, but in no way conservative or right wing as expressed in modern political parlance. But that's literally wrong though?
Brayden Ross
i just want to die
Aaron Diaz
>I didn't mean that you actually called Trump a nazi, more the overarching meme that white men are bad, PoC are literally Jesus, "believe women", MeToo, all that shit. It's like a sect. Which is (in layman's terms) what we call a "strawman" in the biz.
Liam White
Trump literally had an entire speech after the El Paso shooting and declared that we need better vetting for video games and how we should taddle on our neighbors for wrongthink.
Grayson Ross
Why are you so afraid of debating the concepts of fascism and instead falling back on memewords?
James Rivera
I'm not afraid? You literally don't even know what fascism is, you think it's not even right-wing...
Aaron Williams
Unironically Tim Heidecker
Ayden Miller
He never said to outright ban video games you stupid bitch
That's not what I said? He did in fact, blame violent video games as a root cause for school shootings in his speech. The "fix" would be tighter government regulations for video games, which he mentions.
Look, if you like licking boots and sucking his cock, fine. Just admit to it.
Ryder Williams
No, I don't, which is why I want us to have a common understanding of what we're debating instead of falling back to nonsense words. Here's the thing: I was taught that the left-right political spectrum was more or less like this: Left=more state intervention, Right=less state intervention. This would mean that "far right" gets us to libertarianism. However, this doesn't seem to be the case nowadays where fascism is touted as far right, and Left=all that is good and just in our world. That is why I want you to define your view of the definitions for me first, so we can start by having a common understanding of the core concepts.
Charles Lee
here are the typical /pol/nigger talking points: >Nazis were magically socialists >the El Paso shooter wasn't right-wing >bro, is fascism even right-wing at all?
Ryder Gray
>bragging Thanks to Jewrnalists who told me how to interpret the interview without providing a video.
Isaiah Wright
>Implying actual socialism ever leads to anything but oligarchy/autocracy and eventually a bunch of commies suck Stalin's dick.
You guys are great at gymnastics. Bottom line Nazis weren't economic conservatives and neither is Trump. Not then and not by current standards. Cope if you can.
David Mitchell
>that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition This would demand a strong government, no? Less government=less state intervention, and thus less opportunities for suppression of the people? Also giving the people of the state more individidual responsibilities and freedoms at the same time?
Colton Martin
>Here's the thing: I was taught that the left-right political spectrum was more or less like this: Left=more state intervention, Right=less state intervention which is a gross simplification. >This would mean that "far right" gets us to libertarianism. kek, no... >However, this doesn't seem to be the case nowadays where fascism is touted as far right Because it historically is, how do you not understand what the word means? Do you have no access to dictionaries?
Aaron Cook
Nazis were not economic socialists either, Hitler only had his party called "National Socialists" in order to attract German worker unions that he either killed all the leaders of, or brainwashed.
You're dumb, mate.
Luis Lee
>Trump wants to ban video games >Trump wants to regulate video games Which is it nigger? Also kids under the age of 17 shouldn't be playing M rated games to begin with.
Benjamin Morgan
>which is a gross simplification. Well, why make it hard? >kek, no... Why? >Because it historically is, how do you not understand what the word means? Do you have no access to dictionaries? I believe the definition has changed over the years. You can look at the Wikipedia article history for the left-right political spectrum and see for yourself.
Andrew Morgan
>I believe the definition has changed over the years It hasn't. zoomers like you keep trying to alt-fact the word fascist because you don't like its association with right-wing groups in history.
Jordan Campbell
libtards HATE IT when you break the law and obstruct justice. Society BTFO
Caleb Foster
You can respond to my post regarding the definition of fascism in that case: I literally want to understand how you think when you believe fascism is "on the far right".
Eli Murphy
see
Ethan Russell
You tell me, Trump changes his opinions on video games like the wind.
Daniel Robinson
I literally want you to explain to me, who told you that fascism fell on the Left of any political spectrum at all? That's just a popular meme that conservatives make because they want to disassociate their ideology from it.
Benjamin Powell
Do you understand that no historian in almost 80 years now, thinks that fascism is "left wing"?
Jason Flores
>I literally want you to explain to me, who told you that fascism fell on the Left of any political spectrum at all? I was taught this in school back in the 90s. Also, based on my understanding of the left/right political spectrum, it comes as no surprise that fascism can only exist in states with large governments.
James Cox
>if they say dumb shit, that's okay. They won't do anything about it!
Caleb Ward
seriously i just want to die
James Mitchell
Nazis were a "large" government, they were NOT in fact left-wing. I think you have a fundamental problem with these terms. Fascism is not and has never been understood as a left-leaning ideology. You're confusing communism with fascimo
Ethan Moore
>I was taught this in school back in the 90s your homeschooling was wrong.
Ayden Morgan
So he didn't manipulate markets and means of production like Putin? He just let the private sector run free? Cool. Thanks for the damage control retcon. At some point you'll feel an itch in your brain when you hear regressive leftist commies do the same thing to distance from Nazis. Don't scratch your hair away when that happens, mate.
Josiah Morgan
jesus that is just awful, really terrible
Lucas Richardson
There was no "private sector" in Nazi Germany, it was a group of a handful of German capitalists who dictated the entire market. That's not socialism, that's economic oligarchy.
Noah Brooks
oh death abide with me
Landon Phillips
What then defines the left and right of the political spectrum?
Jordan Myers
I guess your own personal feefees then since no argument I make is getting through to you autism filled brain?
Blake Diaz
jake busey
Oliver Smith
And it came as a result of socialism. Just as Soviet fell into the hands of oligarchs in spite of being founded on communism. Also China.
Cameron Mitchell
alright well when it happens you can say I told you so
Jaxon Walker
No, I'm dead serious. You're basically arguing that left=big government with healthcare (I suppose, since you haven't dared define it yet) and other socialist programs, and right=big government, but this time it's the evil kind so it's fascist. It doesn't make any sense.
Nathaniel Torres
>And it came as a result of socialism no...except it didn't. Why are you acting so fucking stupid about this for? Stalin's Russia for example, was an economically communist and State-run economy. The Nazi war machine was different, it was a group of German capitalists who held monopolies on production and ran the German economy into the fucking ground.
These words DO mean different things, user.
Jayden Morales
they must both be the exact same thing then because one of them is something you flirt with, and it can't be bad...right? That's the whole point of your fit.
Matthew Brooks
The German economy was booming as fuck until they decided to start a war with every other nation on the continent. Also, it wasn't run by capitalists, it was an oligarchy under the control of the state.
Blake Miller
>The German economy was booming as fuck kek it wasn't, it was a sham. Just like Hitler's job initiatives.
Jaxson Hill
An oligarchy required to be in the party and follow dear leader's whims. So it's practical socialism. You're really grasping at straws. Is it that important to you to paint Nazis as economic conservatives? What's the pay off?
Luis Williams
My point is that fascism belongs on the left because of the way the government and state is produced and run using huge state interventions and less individual freedoms. But once again, that's according to what I've learned. If you have any other definition of the left/right scale, please go ahead.
Austin Lee
That's literally not economic socialism. It's like you read a blog post on PragerU's website that "socialism is just like fascism" and you think that's true, or that words don't matter or that history doesn't matter.
I hate people like you, you're a fucking pop-history faggot.
Nathan Price
Why don't you enlighten us then?
Jason Hughes
>My point is that fascism belongs on the left Well, no historian on the planet agrees with you zoomer. So go the fuck to sleep and stop saying retarded shit.
Jeremiah Ortiz
what if I told you that state interventions and less individual freedoms is a product of the Right?
Jaxon Watson
No, read a fucking book you stupid /pol/nigger.
Jayden Price
Ah! So individual freedoms and responsibilities are products of left-leaning parties, then? Now we're getting somewhere! This would mean that libertarianism is far left, no?
Hudson Rivera
>Ah! So individual freedoms and responsibilities are products of left-leaning parties, then? Yes? Liberalism isn't right-leaning, user. The entire West is built on Liberalism, not conservatism.
Ian Morris
>reeeee mommy the man doesn't agree with my brainwashing You need to work on your argumentation skills.
Oliver White
Ok friend. I'm gonna post about movies now. But it might be worth your time to consider why you're so mad. Or how far off you've been in your assumptions of my perspective. If we met IRL we'd probably agree on a lot.
Ryan Thompson
Yeah they hate it so much they openly do it daily while the FBI covers for them.
Wyatt Long
Would this then also mean that the further we go left, the less state interventions we have? And vice versa if we move to the right?
Oliver White
>people who say things I don't like, are trying to brainwash me based schizoid.
Colton Morris
I'm mad because I respect history and know that these words have actual definitions, which you don't actually care about. The only reason you're even arguing, is to build distance between (what you believe) with what is historically considered shit ideologies.
Jackson Nguyen
I'm not saying you're trying to brainwash me. I'm all open for intellectual discussions, but since you're unwilling to do just that, I have a feeling your brain has turned to fart gas from all the conditioning you've experienced.
Nathaniel Morgan
I want you to start with the fact that fascism is right-wing, that's a fact. That's not feefees, that's not brainwashing, that's not a psyop...that's true. On the political spectrum, it is not on the fucking Left. Also Nazis, are not socialists. Socialism is a shit ideology, but the Nazis ARE NOT that.
Andrew Barnes
imagine living in a world where politics all works on a 1-dimensional spectrum
Ryder Miller
Sure, I can agree that fascism is right-wing, but we need to have a common understanding of the scale in that case. Saying that we have big government on the left, and big fascist governments on the right makes no fucking sense. And it's not what I've been taught either. So there's been some sort of shift in the past 20 or so years on this definition.
Ethan Butler
John Voight
William Williams
Yes, that would be what we call an oversimplification.
Colton Lee
It's because we've condensed it into a one-dimensional scale? We can work in fucking 5d for all I care, but in that case we need to define the fucking scales for that coordinate system as well.
Adrian Smith
So enlighten me then since I truly am too stupid to understand your glorious and righteous ideas.
Logan Turner
what does it honestly matter? You're fucked in the head to believe in "everything I don't like, is (A)" so it doesn't matter what I say. It doesn't matter how I outline the fundamental market differences between economic fascism and economic communism, which FUNCTION differently.
Brody Ortiz
go to bed Donald
Connor White
Hey, I believe in some socialist programs, for example universal healthcare. I also believe that a nation requires borders and a military in order to maintain its independence over sovereign nations. I am, however, in most cases, leaning libertarian, and despise fascism just as much as you. What I'm trying to get at is a common understanding of this shit. Now, I've basically proposed that the left-right scale be used based on large/small governments, where we have high taxes and socialist programs on the left, and a more laissez-faire viewpoint on the right. Are you now proposing that the scale is defined on an economic foundation instead?
Mason Evans
I misused the word "sovereign" because I'm not a native english speaker, please disregard that.
Oliver Wright
your mom
Landon Long
That's super cool you know what I believe. Almost supernatural. What's your favorite Trumpian movie? I'm gonna do a deep pull. Hang on.
Wyatt Nelson
>tard born into wealth and has a stable life pumping out a bunch of kids to random whores and is suddenly president Doesn’t seem that interesting desu >inb4 redditor (You)’s
Joshua Young
Trump's base would eat this up. It's basically peak Messiah strong man leader. It's "save me Superman" except God works through a president. A president who becomes dictator and enforces order by controlling everything. He attacks bootleggers with thanks and takes control of the alcohol industry. He creates world peace by threatening every other nation with a death ray. It's amazing. Whether you agree or disagree with the concepts there's something to be had. Trump's movie should be like this.
Imagine thinking this is legitimate criticism and not nitpicking. Loony left!
Owen Allen
I bet you are jewish
Jack Miller
Wasn't he midway through talking about how security in his buildings would have to be updated and evacuation plans reorganised now that they were the tallest building in the city?
Chase Davis
70 Pine Street became the tallest after WTC fell.
Camden Brooks
>Making up shit about him and trying to stop those who are doing it isn't a bad thing you dumb faggot Except for the literally thousands of lies he's said, with multiple websites tracking all those false statements and rebuking them with sources(oh wait those websites are fake news amirite)....and yet Drumpf keeps whining about MUH FAKE MEDIA and you faggots literally buy it . Drumpf made a career out of slander and lies and the second he gets his fee fee hurts WHAAAA MUH FREEZE PEACH IS LIKE, SO OVERRATED, FOLKS
I still can't believe a bunch of self described "non beta" faggots worship the biggest crybaby in the planet
>To appease the batshit gun grabbers (which is retarded) >"GET THE GUNS, DUE PROCESS LATER" Obama was the fucking 2A God compared to Drumpf
Sebastian Walker
>Drumpf >Drumpf >Drumpf Go cry on reddit instead, you'll find your audience there.
Ayden Flores
>whaaaa h-he called him Drumpf! Drumpf made a career out of bullying people, slander and outright lies The second he realizes he can't sure more than half of USA >WHAAAA WHY IS THE MEDIA SO MEAN WHAAA WHY AM I BEING CRITICIZED? P-PLS RESPECT ME
Biggest cuck in the planet, seconded by you faggots defending him
Camden Foster
>>outright lies you mean like russian collusion
Cameron Foster
I'm not defending him. But I am making you look like a fool since you apparently can't criticize him properly without resorting to memespeak and probably making fun of his hair or small hands (I know that you in particular didn't do it, but it seems like a common theme with Trump haters). All I see from you is "DRUMPF SURE LOOKS LIKE A FOOL, NOW HIS FEE FEES ARE HURT HURR DURR HE THINKS THE MEDIA ARE FAKE NEWS, BUT HE'S THE BIG BULLY AND THE LIAR" I mean, really? How about debating his actual policies instead of what the fucking media tells you to say and think?
Jacob Howard
Oh, by the way, ditch the reddit spacing. It makes it even more obvious you're hailing from there, coupled with the r/news and r/politics propaganda.
Connor Diaz
You mean the report that concluded that while Trump wasn't outright colluding with the Russians, he did commit crimes and impeachable offenses? that one? an investigation which btw was launched due to Drumpf's own incompetence and stupidity?
but hey he didn't collude with the Russians (that Mueller could prove), so that one "lie" surely makes up for the literally thousands of lies and false statements Drumpf has spewed amirite?
Levi Thompson
>>so that one "lie" amazing all that bs to then try and make an excuse for doing the same thing you accuse others of, amazing I would call you a hypocrite but I'm not like that
Christopher Myers
How about "innocent until proven guilty"? If Mueller can't prove guilt, then the motherfucker's innocent. That's how the justice system works. And seriously, the investigation was kickstarted by Hillary et al. as damage control after the election. Remember how before the election every media outlet spouted that there was no way it could be hacked, and then it overturned in just one day when Hillary said so?
Jason Price
>How about debating his actual policies he wants to limit free speech because it hurts his fee fees. nothing more and nothing less.you want to pretend there is a noble cause about going after MUH FAKE NEWS MEDIA other than hurt fee fees..if that were the case, he'd be calling Fox News and the rest of right wing fake "news" out too, but he doesn't because they suck his cock. Not to mention the fact that the guy can't stop lying.
But please do to ahead and keep deluding yourself thinking that there is an honest bone in the body of Dolan Drumpf
Aiden Morgan
Mueller's investigation was not to conclude innocence or guilt, you idiot, and Mueller himself said Trump committed a bunch of crimes and the reason he wasn't being charged was because even if he could, he was the President and traditionally a sitting President isn't charged?
Caleb Ramirez
>>he wants to limit free speech ironic considering the left is the champion of banning "hate speech", I would think you guys would be for that sort of stuff
Andrew Howard
Wait wait. You seriously think that Trump is the one who wants to restrict free speech? Have you looked at the democratic party and the fucking legion of trannies who demand to be called by their pronouns?
Landon Howard
>>Mueller himself said Trump committed a bunch of crimes If you read the report or listened to his Congressional testimony you would know that was demonstrably false.
Xavier White
Ever heard of impeachment? No president is above the law.
Justin Sullivan
Impressionists say that you can't impersonate someone well if you don't like them. If you do it turns into an unfunny parody, like the Ford, Bush, and Trumbo parodies on snl. Since all of Hollywood hates him not sure if there will be a good bio movie ever
