Unironically the most kino fantasy film since Lord of the Rings

I mean, what makes fantasy? It's the setting. You can do whatever with it. It doesn't have to be "defeat the evil wizard and save the world" kind of deal.

Well, it's also a pretty vague, slowish watch. Which is fine but it's like a slightly nightmarish glimpse of some strange planet through a haze rather than gripping or engaging you like more exciting fantasy, and the new series, does. I'm a big fan of scary and hazy but the series' ability to engage you more gives it an advantage at least as a successful crossover fantasy project overall. I think I appreciate the movie and series equally, but the series is way funner and more moving, while still being really weird, trippy, scary and beautiful.

In french we usually distinguish between Fantasy ( Original world with its own lores and rules ) and Fantastic ( as a genre, not an adjective = Incursion of magical elements in a realistic context ). Spirited Away belong to this second category.

high fantasy/low fantasy
primary/secondary world

Oh, interesting, and I agree with that view. I also think of 'whimsy' as a magical cousin to fantasy but not fantasy in the genre sense, whimsy maybe including the fantastical as well as fairy tales.

High Fantasy / Secondary = Lord of the ring
High Fantasy / Primary = Harry Potter
Low Fantasy / Secondary = Game of thrones
Low fantasy / Primary = Dracula

Is that right ?

I'd add the Discworld series (Hogfather, Color of Magic, Going Postal)
The Tenth Kingdom
I also like the first Narnia film

Yes

Dracula is Gothic Horror.

I've always liked the French distinctions, Les Cites Obscures is one of my favorite series from the Fantastic genre style.

hmmmmmm

Labyrinth is pretty good but the original Dark Crystal movie and the series both outstrip it with ease.

The Princess Bride is more comedy than fantasy.

Excalibur barely embraces its fantasy elements, and the Arthur/Merlin mythos is a very particular subset of fantasy, not high fantasy.

The neverending story, again, is a very different beast outside most fantasy. A good film, but pales before the Lord of the Rings or the Dark Crystal movie/series.

Now the Storyteller series on HBO back in the day? That's some beautiful stuff there. That said it tends more toward fairytale than high fantasty.

Willow is absolutely the closest thing on your list to Lord of the Rings or the Dark Crystal. It's absolutely high fantasy, and I've always wished it'd done better to see where Lucas would have gone. I know there were books, I'm not sure how much of that was what Lucas intended though.

Dragonslayer's an interesting one, but there's differently a different feel. It's more medieval than high fantasy. I think as I type out this stuff I'm realizing one of the big separations is in how much the involved writers created the surrounding world and its lore. Dragonslayer could be any given medieval fantasy setting, regardless of the very real quality of the movie itself.

The Black Cauldron could have been better, always wished they'd been able to create what I've heard they wanted to create, versus what they were able to.

Legend is an interesting one, but definitely feels more toward fairy tale. No less amazing visually for that comment though.

I like disc world, but I always put it more in the realm of comedy rather than fantasy.

I love the Xanth novels, for example, but i'd never try and stack them up against tolkien. They're closer to disc world in most ways.

>original netflix
heh, you got me for a minute. Fuck off and die.

Harry Potter is modern fantasy.
Dracula is dark fantasy.
The Lord of the Rings is high fantasy.

Low fantasy is a bit of an issue in naming because some people expect no to almost no magic in it. The reality is setting considered low fantasy like Conan and Game of Thrones are actually bursting to the seams with magic, the real difference is in how it's used and how it affects the world. Magic is a common plot point, just not in the D&D wizard who can throw fireballs sort of way.

Anybody else thing the new show is a little too busy compared to the movie? I mean the movie felt more impactful because the dialogue was so sparse and there weren't so many distracting music cues. It was way more atmospheric and alien. The sets also feel smaller now and the CGI was distracting.

Wrong.
Potter is low fantasy/primary, and GoT is high fantasy/secondary.

Deet confirmed as main character? I was worried it was going to be Rian for a bit there.

One of the things the series suffers from is that it is a more typical fantasy story.

The Dark Crystal movie is far more in line with dark fantasy, albeit a very alien fantasy. How the scenes are shot, the lighting, these are examples. The series has much more humor in it. The real difference, however, is in the sound design. The dark crystal movie's sound design is more ominous and mysteries, yes, it has high energy pieces, but the tone is typically more somber and creeping.

Another major difference is in the opening narration. Compare the series and movie narration back to back. The tone is severely different, the pacing with which the words are spoken and even the authority. The female narrator of the series has much less presence and impact, whereas the manner of speaking, accent and tone, pacing of the words, with the dark crystal movie's narrator is much more authoritative, but also much more ominous and mysterious.

The movie tells you the story of an ancient, mysteries and alien place, it's dark and horrifying, yet also beautiful and wondrous.

The dark crystal series will cause children to wake up screaming in the middle of the night.

The dark crystal movie will.

They're both high fantasy, after a fashion, albeit a little more alien. But listen to the series celtic tones in its score and music, it's much more adventurous and fairy-like. The movie was just darker and more alien. I love the series, but those dark and alien aspects just shine through so much better in the movie, and they've been extremely watered down in the series.

I highly recommend giving the Dark Crystal movie's sound track a thorough listen. It's pretty obvious the Dark Crystal series creators neglected this aspect. The movie's score is beautiful and dark, adventurous and mysterious and . . . once you get to the Garthim tracks . . . terrifying.

Why is Dracula fantasy at all and not horror?

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You have three leads, technically. Though I wouldn't get too attached to anyone, they're all going to die. I think the best you can hope for is that one the Gelflings in the movie are somehow descended from one of your favorites.

It's both.

you're confusing setting with genre.

>The dark crystal series will cause children to wake up screaming in the middle of the night.
you mean will not
agreed if so

Dracula is Dark Fantasy.

>Unless you count Spirited Away.
thanks for letting me know not to take your opinion seriously

nah it's light horror

I've heard rumors that this show will end up taking place on an alternate timeline compared to the original film, with the Gelfling genocide being averted, possibly with time travel shenanigans where some of the main characters of the series meet the two OC from the film. Sounds kind of shit but the person who told me works in the industry and is reliable.

LIES

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Sounds like something netshit would do.

pretty excited to watch, is the music good?

Technically low fantasy is a fantasy work that is based on our world rather than an entirely new one, but nobody ever uses that definition anymore.

Between this and the Chapelle special, i'm starting to think Netflix isn't content with being woke and broke.

That would be fucking stupid but I could see Netflix pressuring the creators to go down this route in a shitty effort to generate more needless seasons. Assuming the show becomes that successful and all.

Get in here

GOT is subversive fantasy for the woke masses

I also see Harry Potter categorized as "Urban Fantasy"

Princess Mononoke