Was The Matrix really that popular back when it came out? What was it like going to see it in theatres in 1999?

Nobody cares, weeaboo.

Yeah you should when it turns out the first and second movies were complete copy and pastes, and the brothers weren't the geniuses people thought they were

Calling them "directors" is a farce - they're curators.

>using weeaboo as an insult
>loves the live action version of what the "weeaboo" is referencing, but hates the anime rendition, because "reasons"
imagine actually holding this position

this

maybe some people dont like shitty drawings?

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I liked the part where it showed two people waking up in the two movies. These hacks thought no one would notice that waking up happened in another movie first? Disgusting stuff - tell the world, user!

It was extremely popular. To this day, it is still the movie I watched the most times at the theatre (3)
It was nothing short of revolutionary, and made other movies from that year and decade look like some old nigger art relics.
I don't think I have seen anything like it since. Maybe 24 when it came out but that's TV.

kek, you btfo'd that virgin autist loser bitch

I was mad because the sheeple dared to say it was better than the phantom menace. Fucking bullshit dog

that same anime "wake up sequence" also had 10+ other scenes blatantly ripped from it, so it was obvious this one was taken as well

Watch Speed Racer then you fokin cunt

some KINOs must be experience in real time
what have you done so far? can't wait to see your KINO

>dragon ball
lol, go jack off

>This should be a nice vaporizer before star wars comes out.
>'_'

Like the one where a character hides behind a physical barrier that gets shot a lot? So unique.

cope.
Hollywood are so talented they have to steal from anikino. Many such cases!

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They're good at choreography and knitting narratives to themes, but they aren't innovative and thoughtful in their own right.

All you've done here, is say take the plagiarizers and put them in a scenario where all the source material has been written for them in the comic books and anime series, and ask them to translate that to live action.

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You forgot to put "Sad!" at the end.

Jupiter Ascending is what happens when they try to do something more original.

it's not only the action the character takes, it's the way the scene is shot, the effects used, and the circumstance it takes place in relative to the plot are all parallel

stop being disingenuous because i won't respond next time

it also made Chinese martial arts movies much more popular. Every Yuen Woo-Ping movie got a vhs/dvd release, suddenly, with "From the fight choreographer of The Matrix" pasted right across the front, even his goofiest stuff

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It felt like a genre jumper. Kind of in the spirit of what tarintino did ..where you didn't know what was coming next. Like was this sci-fi? Noir? Horror? The social aspect was just cool for a college kid...but it's quaint compared to today. I remember thinking I saw something worth talking about. I wanted to see more

actually most of the action was inspired by old john woo movies

define "inspired"

There's something worth saying here that is overlooked by dismissing non-live motion pictures as a medium. In this format, they're so effortlessly able to depict things which would be impossible in live format, precisely because of the believability aspect which comes along with the medium it's depicted in, which in turn breaks the viewer's engagement with the story being told. When you watch a cartoon, your mind has already accepted that what you're watching isn't physically real, so you lower your guard and allow yourself to entertain ideas and objects you wouldn't believe possible.

Magic, futuristic technology, talking animals, horrific lovecraftian beasts - all these things can be shown in their full splendor and be accepted at face value, because they exist in the same medium as the rest of the "drawing" - the same cannot be said of CGI, which we all know sticks out like a sore thumb and ruins scenes; it's also for this reason, why so many Disney cartoon classics translate poorly to live action as well.

ground breaking at the time. it has a lot of elements all done very well, so it appealed to a very wide audience.

it's like star wars - I felt nothing when I watched it, but I can imagine how cool it was when it first came out.

If it wasn't for one of the worst teachers I ever had in my life I wouldn't have watched it. This guy would just sit at his desk reading old books without ever giving any sort of lecture. He literally made up our grades for 2 years straight and he never got caught.

The only good thing he ever did for me was force the class to write a report on The Matrix. I was 15 and I had no idea what the fuck it was but I loved it. I made a couple of good nerd friends in the class which later got me into going to LAN parties and turn of the century greatness.

awesome movie , timing was good , first movie I watched on dvd svideo 576i was a good upgrade from vcr

Posting in a zoomer thread.

This tbqhwyf, it had a large and lasting cultural effect. Star wars for millennials.

It was a cultural phenomenon and changed how action movies scripted their sequences for years to come. People were fucking blown away by sequences like the lobby shootout and Neo's bullet dodge.

On another level, it injected many concepts into popular consciousness that are still with us today

It is cyber capeshit

>Was The Matrix really that popular back when it came out? What was it like going to see it in theatres in 1999?
Context: It took roughly a year for The Matrix to fully explode and spread to the mainstream among teens and parents.

At first, bullet time is what sent it to such heights, that's what got early press and praise. Then the plot's deeper ramifications took flight as the internet did. The Matrix had an unusual viral popularity. Which was cut short by the sequel and the threequel squelched so much. By that time, The Matrix was passe.

>what was it like to see in the theater
Keep in mind, 8 of 10 people went in with moderate expectations. So the hype going in wasn't seismic. There was slightly above normal excitement.

But exiting, there was literal buzz into the parking lot. Not everyone "got it" I remember this distinctly, but even dumb people really dug it. Word of mouth spread after the first week, largely offline. I saw it in a 70% white suburb, good gauge of mainstream then.

Here's how I'd rank the insanity and crowd INSIDE the theater to other experiences, in order:
1. Jurassic Park
2. Batman 1989
3. Terminator 2
4. Home Alone
5. TMNT - the first movie
6. Independence Day
7. Dumb & Dumber
8. Ghost - fucking crazy att
9. Avatar / Scream 1 (tie)
10. Die Hard 1
>The Matrix
11. Mrs. Doubtfire
12. Jackass 2
13. The Ring - hated it but wild crowd
14. Interview with a Vampire

Forgot to include: Blair Witch Project (top 5 before movie started); Forrest Gump (at least top 10)

It was great. I wish I could be 14 again

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I didn't see it in theater but I remember seeing many different documentaries about movie history: history of kungfu movies, of animes, of sci-fi etc. and they all ended with scenes from Matrix. Maybe they were all made by WB

>bluepill, redpill and blackpill terminology of today exists because of the matrix
only on this site

Boomer here. It was big but not a Star Wars or Avatar. The word of mouth element was big and i think a lot of people saw it on dvd than the theater

It was something you zoomers will never comprehend

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>it's what started the whole 'loser guy wears trenchcoat' style
Personally, Blade and MacBeth on Gargoyles got me into it first. Matrix cemented it. I wanted to get one. Then Columbine happened and my hich school banned them. I remember one kid who always wore one was pissed.

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this

but the dark knight probably had a bigger influence since it what made the super-hero era

>This is my main qualm with the John Wick movies: well choreographed action scenes but little to no fucking buildup.
I think it works in that a fight scene can pop up out of nowhere. Fits the paranoid atmosphere of the world of assasins it has.

They also stole ideas from a bunch of Grant Morrison comics.

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Like a fucking religious experience.

Well it caused the Columbine mass shooting (which pushed Hollywood to tone down the sequels, Neo doesn't murder cops in the sequel), so yeah it was big.

To be fair, Aronofsky paid for the rights to copy that scene.

>Jupiter Ascending
>original
That was just Kirby's New Gods and Jodoworski's Metabarons mushed in to a movie.

>caused the Columbine mass shooting
no it fucking didn't

>yes it was extremely popular
Not at first. It did well enough at the box office, but it wasn't a huge phenomenon since The Phantom Menace dominated the summer. The Matrix really hit its stride on DVD. Hence, the sequels did far better at the box office despite being worse films.

I remember bringing the vhs tape of it in to watch during art classes because my art teacher loved it so much. I also brought it into my photo club meeting to show the behind the scenes extras and how they filmed a bunch of scenes.

Yes it did. So did Maryln Manson and Grand Theft Auto III.

Good post. Thanks user

don't forget DOOM

and Rammstein
and they all got off scot free, wtf

(you) for effort, lack comment

It was huge. It's one of the most significant action movies ever.
It popularized bullet time, school shooter aesthetics, headjack visual trope, created bluepill/redpill meme, had "dude fuck the system!!" message without being too cringe.

not to mention being most of the public's first exposure to simulation theory

Imagine watching T2 on opening night. Literally the milestone action movie only rivaled by hong kong action cinema of the 80s.

This, Mansons "Rock is Dead" literally provided the music video for this. It was huge, but it didnt came packaged as a blockbuster like modern capeshit.

Reloaded did.

And even to this day it's still one of the most solid implementations of one. Matrix didn't just dismiss the "fake" world once it revealed to be simulation, it had it work in tandem with the real one, complementing each other.

I saw it in theaters in 1999 when I was about 17. The movie had an amazing advertising campaign. Trailers would tease really short excerpts from the action scenes and then would end with a screen (if I remember correctly) asking "What is the Matrix?"
I was pumped up to finally see it.
It was mindblowing. That first scene where Trinity kills the cops was like nothing I had ever seen before. For weeks after I saw the movie I fantasized about running up walls and stuff like that.
In retrospect, years later, I realize that The Matrix is about 30 minutes of great mystical cyberpunk (the "like a splinter in your mind..." stuff is fantastic) stuck inside 2 hours of mostly generic quippy bombastic-music mainstream action. When I watch it nowadays, I walk away with the impression that a great premise and possibility was mostly squandered. It could have been an actual amazing movie rather than mainstream shlock... but if it had been that, I suppose it's very likely that it would have made a lot less money.
I still like The Matrix, but it's just because those 30 minutes or so of it are great. The rest of it is mediocre. But that first time I saw it in '99, like I said, I was totally amazed.

WHY IS NO ONE POSTING MY NOSTALGIA WAIFU!

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I recently rewatched it and it holds up amazingly.

1. 80% of the movie is borrowed/inspired/stolen from other great(er) works - so it already solid
2. The pacing is tight as hell
3. The hero's journey narrative is written in one of the most impeccable ways possible

Yep, this explains why the 2nd movie and 3rd movie were shit.
Less to steal from, and they thought since the first one was a hit they were actually good writers and directors.

pretty cool.
you could start to see the separations between people an normies.
no matter how much they liked it you could see their embarrassment at being able to escape their programming

Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. The generic hero's journey usually bores me nowadays. The Matrix has too many lame jokes and quips ("dodge this!") for my taste... too much repetitive hand-fighting done while the music tries to force me to FEEL! HOW! DRAMATIC! THIS! IS!... the Neo-Trinity love plot is totally tacked on... the bad guys (except for a few brief great Agent Smith moments) are over-the-top corny ("your men are already dead...") and are turned into jokes at the end... a lot of the acting from the minor characters is pretty bad...
My take is that The Matrix sets up a very interesting mystical/philosophical cyberpunk mood and then just totally drops the ball and turns into a mediocre action movie.

BTW, when I say that, I should clarify... I love action movies, I just don't think The Matrix is a very good one. It's a mediocre action movie that has amazing visuals.

good artists borrow, great artists steal

I never knew hack high school and uni students were the real geniuses all along!

Mind boggling take

One of the best human characters in that cartoon.

Yes and? These board sings high praises to westernshit which were stolen from samuraishit.

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Great post

Lucas was litterally on suicide watch when it dropped. Even Empire Mag stated that they were worried that TPM wouldn't be the greatest Sci-Fi flick that year

Don't get around much do you?

It was the coolest thing ever. I was so unbelievably hype for the sequels.

>Implying Ghost in the Shell was anything original
without Bladerunner and Moebius you'd have nothing to be wrong about you dumb weeb nigger

You're right in that certain movies (or maybe the books they were based off) evoked certain transhumanist themes that resonate through all these works, but surely you have to capitulate that there's a serious difference between inspiration and outright scene for scene recreation

>for most people, it was a complete mind blow
Most MEN.
It was actually hilarious to watch couples after the movie ended.
Guys were usually dazed while the chicks looked bored and slightly concerned at their meal ticket´s behavior.

yes and no
considering that the scenes in questions were absolutely fuckin revolutionary when it comes to effects in cinema makes the
>"character x punched character y in the same way as in this other ip"
completely irrelevant

You should have seen the waves of Internet shit back then that was inspired by it, Madness Combat being the prime example.

you have a valid point, but i wouldn't go beyond saying it's a translation from book to cinema, as it was from anime to live action film - which is important in the sense you recognize the significance of the source material

>which is important in the sense you recognize the significance of the source material
yes, already went over this without things like Moebius, Bladerunner, Robocop etc. you wouldn't have your animus and Matrix

maybe, but could you really attribute authorship of transformative works which incorporate evolved elements to the source material entirely, no matter how fragmented it becomes along the way?

>implying cyberpunk animus gave any significant twist on the genres
kek, you already know what my answer to that is

as I mentioned here Yeah I'd say "animus" played an important part in translating the narrative from words to a physical medium and giving it form

>it was impossible to make a comedy in the early 2000s without including a bullet time scene
This

>Agent Smith's voice was based on the Wachowskis brothers because Weaving thought they had really deep voices and to sound intimidating
I still haven't seen any interview with Wachowkie's since they took the blue pill.
Do they get hormone injections or whatever for the girly voices?

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nah they really didn't but I get you would think that
bladerunner was the one that brought it to live action and moebius gave birth to the whole aesthetic, saying that animus played an "important part in translating the narrative from words to a physical medium and giving it form" is either flat out wrong or just stretching things to an extreme depending on what movie we're talking about

>What was it like going to see it in theatres in 1999?
Never seen it in theatre. First time for me was on VHS.

>DVD
hello zoomer, having fun reading wikis?

>flat out wrong
Well, I offer you this ultimatum - the comic books of Spiderman, X-men, Batman, Superman and the whole ensemble universe those belong to had zero influence on not only the characters and their archetypes depicted within, but the extended universe, philosophies embodied, ultimately the movies they were later depicted in, in the 2010s, and inspirational adaptions like Watchmen

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damn, this isn't surprising but still quite sad

>ending on a terrible analogy
aight have a good one

well, my point still stands, how do you explain watchmen?

AJ Soprano gave a copy to Carmela for her birthday

Every girl I have asked say they didnt like it.

I dont understand.

I guess today was a life lesson that copyright holders own the right to claim transformative works as their own, by virtue of having expressed an initial idea that blossomed into an entire concept

>Hollywood movie with some actual depth
>women