Protagonist is good because... he's good

If nothing else, the lack of a good father figure in my life and being treated so shittly certainly instils a strong drive to be a good, present father figure in the lives of the children I'd like to have someday and be someone they look up to and love.

whats wrong with his lower thigh and knee lmao

>kek. By far my favorite kind of posters.
ELECTRIC BOOGALOO SPAGHETTIDOO!!! This, just so much THIS!!!

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Anyone ever met sois IRL? What's it like interacting with them? Do they piss you off or are you slightly bemused when talking to these cringe but otherwise harmless 'men'?

>protagonist is good because... he went through some shit

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I had the idea to make this thread but didn’t

his sacrifice was pretty retarded

>ELECTRIC BOOGALOO SPAGHETTIDOO
Not really man. I actually do like you.

MoS pretty much missed the nice simplicity of Pa dying of a heart attack, i.e. Clark cannot save everyone. Him being a fundamentally good man that struggles with the fact he can't use his powers to save everyone and feels horrible when he can't should have been part of his character. Him looking at those Metropolis ruins seemingly not giving a shit, kissing Lois and wisecracking, etc. was shit. The guy should have looked devasted at all the carnage and death his people wrought.

Somebody SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEE

Stop. He will never reciprocate your feelings towards him

>foster father needlessly sacrifices himself
damn straight

Too bad Man of Steel does a really shitty job of showing this. Watch Smallville for real family loving kino.

:(

He's wrong, user. I love you.

>Stop. He will never reciprocate your feelings towards him

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>family loving kino
its true

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Based Chloe

Actually, Snyder's Superman was one of the few versions that actually didn't take his innate goodness for granted, and people hated it.

This is the implication, but there are a lot of comics I've read where Superman is good because his parents literally just told him to be. The second they found out he had powers, they started putting the pressure of being a superhero on him. Might work well enough for the Silver Age, but it makes the Kents seem like bad characters.

>Him being a fundamentally good man that struggles with the fact he can't use his powers to save everyone and feels horrible when he can't should have been part of his character.
I disagree. I don't hate this angle, but it's been done, and to say that that his big internal conflict is "I like to stop bad things but sometimes the bad things are too bad to be stopped and that makes me sad" is kind of lame. I much prefer what Snyder actually did, and made Superman unsure of whether or not he was doing more harm than good. The ghost dad pep-talk in BvS is unironically one of my favorite scenes because of how relatable Superman's issue is to the average person. His is just on a MUCH bigger scale. People worry all the time whether or not the things they do to fix one problem aren't simultaneously causing 6 more, and Pa's advice of taking the weight of the world off your shoulders, doing your best to make things right, and surrounding yourself with those you love (or just one person you love) to comfort and console and inspire you when the rest of the world is against you is unironically great advice. The world is a big, complex place, and not even a Superman can mend all those cracks. What's important is that, while trying to save humanity, he doesn't forget his own. It comes off as a tiny bit selfish for a superhero mantra, but given how militant Clark's parents are about turning him into the world's janitor in some incarnations, I think it's well deserved.

>The ghost dad pep-talk in BvS is unironically one of my favorite scenes
Smallville did it better.

>Smallville
opinion discarded. This CW teen drama did literally nothing good

It's the best Superman adaptation ever and remains the best superhero tv show. Eat shit homo.

Dceu supes want good. He was a passive aggressive douchebag.
Even when they were tried to show the assistance a montage of him saving people he had a disgusted look in his face like it was forced good he was doing.

*Wasn't good

Three of my friends are onions as fuck. Typical basedboy with beard, fat face and fit the meme in every possible way. They are beta as fuck and never have their own opinion or depend on their significant other for every decision in life. I hate how they are now. One of them was a good looking chad but I had to go To Europe for an internship for couple years. Now I’m back and now he fell for an annoying bitch who made him a fat beta bearded basedboy. Love them but hate their basedboy nature. I hope things get better

I mean onions boy and last line is basedboy nature. Fucking Yea Forums and iPhone autocorrect

Onions!! Onions!!! oh fuck what’s this stupid autocorrect. Fuck me

S.o.y!!! Not onions

He was raised by a good white couple rather than Jews or degenerate whites or a single black woman.

How can you fools be SO wrong for SO long? There was literally nothing whatsoever to suggest that teenage Clark could survive a tornado or even move at an accelerated speed. The characters’ actions make perfect sense in that scene and you guys are cluelessly harping on the fact that they didn’t apply the extratextual knowledge you have from other adaptations
This meme criticism is the exact equivalent of rewatching the Matrix and saying it sucks because Neo should’ve just flown to the roof of his office rather than let the agents catch him

Kek newfag

>I don’t know what words mean! the post
Nice contribution, zoomer

lmao

how come nobody from Smallville recognizes this motherfucker is Superman now? Nice "realistic" take on Superman bro

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Because he listened to his parents’ sage words and imperative not to reveal his power level. Nice digits

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he's supposed to be good because he was raised by great parents. But this version has the dad kill himself after giving terrible advice, then time jumps to him being an adult. Man of Steel sucks, and if you liked it, just watch DBZ it has all the same action beat for beat but with fun characters.

>not to reveal his power level
>flies around just with different clothes
realistically this fag should be wearing a mask as superman

Well, we literally have actual videos of Henry Cavill standing around in front of giant posters of Superman and nobody recognizing him. So glasses, hairstyling, and posture changing the way one’s perceived isn’t all that far-fetched

Thats because Henry Cavill is an actor portraying a character in a movie you fucking autist. Have him fly around saving people IRL and then casually walking down the road in his sweatpants and we'll see if anyone recognizes him or not.

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>plays Superman in blockbuster films
>nobody recognizes you
JUST

Man of Steel doesn't show that. That's not the story of the Man of Steel Superman. That's why he's different from Comic Super Man. In the comics Jonathan Kent is a wise, loving, stalwart man who, like Superman, always knows the right thing to do and makes all the right calls. Man of Steel Jonathan Kent, on the other hand, is a man who understandably has no idea how to raise a superpowered alien son.

>Everything that isn't child rape and dog murder is Mary Sue and that triggers me

this but good luck convincing the incels otherwise, lol. Watch Smallville you zoomer fucks

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>sufficiently address stupid accusation someone makes
>all while acknowledging that like anything, the film wasn't perfect and one could argue the sacrifice felt retarded to viewers knowing how strong Uberman is
>b-but the sacrifice was retarded
Good post.

We have lots of instances where famous people can masquerade as not themselves in the very face of their likeness. While the level of fame might not be the same, the big thing is that most people haven't met actors and when faced with them IRL they often don't recognise them. The Charlie Chaplin anecdote might well be an urban legend, but a great other example is Rowan Atkinson, whose everyday demeanor is just vastly different from his most famous character, so he regularly gets told how STRIKINGLY similar to the Mr. Bean actor looks.
It's the same thing. The people closes to him are very well aware of who he is, but to the world, context and perception make a much bigger difference than a suit and glasses.

do you have any idea the impact it would have if someone was revealed being a superhuman? comparing that shit to famous actors is completely retarded. We're talking about the closest thing to a God-like being here

>people will shit on this to be contrarian
>muh plot holes
>muh last third
It's sad how we can't have anything nice these days.
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Do you know how many people there are on this fucking planet? Do you know how many people look incredibly similar to someone famous? Do you know how unfathomable it would be to think the most powerful being in the universe would need a secret alias and work as your fucking subordinate for mediocre pay?
You really don't understand my point, my point isn't that Superman would have insane impact, my point is that nobody would ever give a shit about Clark Kent.

>nobody would ever give a shit about Clark Kent
he would literally go viral the moment someone with over 1000 followers posted a pic of him going "this dude looks just like superman!"

rational thinking and understanding of characters is strictly prohibited on Yea Forums

never read the comics but I thought the TV show made a perfect, even if too short, point when it comes to that. you don't even need two parents, only a parent that gives a fuck and will teach you to be morally correct

the sacrifice was okay but I feel like they could have made it clearer that Clark was young and not trained at all and hence unable to run AND save his dad without anyone noticing. Snyder tried to do the in-your-face approach but I think the scene would have been better if Jonathan would have just been swept away while saving the dog. It would have shown better that Clark can't do anything about nature taking its course

That is the fault of WB and Snyder. It sucks that DC characters won't have a universe that has a darker tone to it. I like the MCU but I am genuinely jealous of them.

>Henry Cavill is [incredibly famous and has images of his face posted everywhere and yet people fail to recognize him when he changes clothes, styling, and mannerisms]
Yes, way to make my case for me, not-so-smartypants

At least after the Justice League scene where they show how fast Supes is (and probably before as well) people would have said he could have saved him regardless. They had to make it a choice for Clark, otherwise people would have poked holes at how inconsistent he is in his ability use, ignoring any kind of development and the fact that he can't even fly at this point.
As a character, Snyder probably wanted this to be an active choice, too, to juxtapose it with the later choice to emerge from hiding.

cavill is an actor
we're talking about a God-like being here
unless you actually think that starring in movies and being an actual, real-life superhuman is somehow comparable

superman is unironically the greatest character ever created - you literally cant prove me wrong

they recognize him, they just don't care

But logically child raising is easier when you can divide the payment or between two parents. Also studies show that children learn intersex social interaction through their parents. Studies also show that being raised in a fatherless home predicts increased rates of poverty and crime.

what? NO! HOW CAN THAT BE! HE'S A CELEBRITY ACTOR! HE PLAYED SUPERMAN! THAT MEANS THAT IF AN ACTUAL REAL LIFE SUPERMAN SHOWED UP THEY WOULDNT RECOGNIZE HIM EITHER! STOP IT RIGHT NOOOWWW!!!

This is actually realistic because no one is evil just for being evil but a lot of people are good just because that's how they are.

what about dying and leaving behind a widow and an orphan to save a fucking dog?

>humans are basically good
>*destroys planet*

The planet's still here...

>axchually
Wow, humans haven't erased the very rocks of the Earth. Got 'em.

yeah i specialy love the part where superman needs to think about tits to cum fire out his eyes
i not joking i trully love that part. is my head canon now.

Uh, no. Humans are the only ones actively keeping the planet alive. Who's gonna stop an asteroid from blowing us up? A beaver?

Not humans. And what's even more evil about what you just said is that YOU are the plague currently causing a mass extinction event.

It would be so easy to rewrite the scene so he would actually save some trapped kid nobody noticed or something

You don't need a reason to be good you retard

COME OOOONNNN

Are you literally completely unfamiliar with the very concept of tornadoes? Lmao. The entire danger is they take twisty, unpredictable paths so it might seem safe right up until it juts toward you - as happened in the film. It’s not like Jonathan knowingly sacrificed himself for the family dog, but rather he demonstrated heroism by taking a calculated risk to save their beloved pet and happened to catch a losing outcome

Kek. Kill yourself.

No user you misunderstand OP
I’m sure he understands that Superman the pop culture icon is good because he’s a homegrown Kansas boi

He’s talking about Snyder’s version whose parents are fucking bizarre weirdos who think dying to tornadoes for no reason is the correct way to raise a being powerful enough to split continents with his dick

include me in the screencap!!!

If Clark would have loved her this wouldn't have happened.

She fucked Green Arrow. Wasn't that a good enough consolation prize?

It was all style no substance "Moment" that threw out the point of Super Man's origin story for a "cool shot". It's not just Snider that does this. All Blockbuster films are these days are early planned "cool shots" stitched together with rushed and weak writing. The story comes after the series of "cool shots" are thought up.
Good writing was brutally murdered sometime in the last 15 years.
>I have no idea where they hid the body.

Because nobody would believe Superman is just some ordinary person. They believe he is Superman 24/7.

Why isn't he? Realistically speaking why does he need Clark Kent?

Yeah, it's called a flat arc. The idea is that the central character maintains a consistent attitude throughout the story and that their actions ultimately effect the world around them. It's basically a reversal of a normal arc where outside circumstances end up shaping the protagonist.

>user saves a thread from page 10 because...
>he saves it from page 10

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You get a feeling inside when you do something "good". Considering your a normal functioning human being

the most based character type

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that's what snyder brought, also we are getting joker and R rated BoP.

The common theme in superhero stories. If the hero is able to protect himself at all times or even near invincible, the people he loves rarely are. It's another idea that Snyder got right that everyone overlooks due to a dislike of the Joker-fied Luthor. The scene on the roof where Supes barely contains his rage but is powerless because he let his mother get captured and he doesn't see a way to reliably save her after killing Lex. I know everyone feels like he could just "listen to her heartbeat" and locate her like he's a fucking human sonar, but that again is just assuming that Supes is all-powerful and has all the powers at peak capacity and control he has ever shown in other media. Might as well say he should turn back time by flying around the Earth really fast.