American Psycho

By this definition everybody is schizophrenic or has been at some point.

Because it does matter. And he did do it. he at least killed paul allen and whoevers blood was in the sheets he trying to clean

If dubs then everyone around him is a psycho and that's why nobody cares that he's one

who's to say he was recalling anything. He just thought he was

In the film he killed the homeless guy and that's it. In the book he killed literally NOBODY.

retard
BASED okay now we're cooking with dubs

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Psychosis IS schizophrenia.

The lawyer met with Paul Allen in london, he couldn't have killed him

you don't think he killed the homeless guy in the book?

>American Psycho
>not American

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No, it doesn't. Whether he did it or not, he will face no consequences and the victims' absence will have no impact on the world around them.
You might call it pointlessly cynical and you wouldn't be wrong, but Ellis' point is obviously that his world is so shallow and egotistical that someone could be a serial murderer and it wouldn't make a difference to anyone.

>Sheets
Nigga it'sred wine, not blood.

No, it's cranberry juice. Cranapple.

let's keep those 9's going boys

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The whole book is like a fever dream. He doesn't kill anybody. It's all fantasy.

this for the absolute truth
the point isn't whether or not all that shit actually happened, the point is that even if it did, no one would have given a shit. his sector of society (or perhaps all of society in general) is narcissistic and empty and meaningless

No the lawyer did not meet paul allen. The lawyer didnt even know who patrick bateman was when he was talking to him. Plus the detective confirmed paul allen was not recognized in london

Good job showing you don’t understand what either of those words mean.

He was EXACTLY aware of reality and what he was doing, that was the whole point.

schizophrenic people don't generally want to murder people.

You guys are dumb as rocks. He does kill , and he gets away with it because no one recognizes each other. The whole movie they always get each other wrong , mistaking one for another.

But you know it was paul allen because you saw his card

Singles and nobody has sex ever again

I've read it several times and never came to a solid conclusion. Some of the murders are clearly exaggerated, but it's unclear what actually occurred. I'm curious as to why the murder happened in the movie, but not the book, if you wouldn't mind explaining

this, if it was blood the stains would be much darker

Fucking hell, somebody give this genius another bluepill.

meant for

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except for CIA niggers

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dubs and we all get gfs

Based

Excellent understanding, user. You are clearly a man of high taste and standards.
>and he gets away with it because no one recognizes each other
Yes, that's my fucking point. No one would notice if he killed anyone. He will never be caught. Whether he hallucinated it or actually murdered them makes absolutely zero difference in this world. That's why Ellis makes you question it, so you'll come to that conclusion.

Haha joke's on you, trips aren't dubs

No one did notice that he killed people even though he confessed and made it obvious, thats the point

then why was Paul Allen's apartment empty

Yes, but their reaction would be the same whether he killed them or whether it was all in his head. We are purposely not given a clear answer because the writer is trying to hammer it home that he's writing about a shallow, ugly, self-centered world.
Though at least some of the murders obviously aren't real. The shootout sequence, for example, is clearly meant to be a figment of Bateman's imagination given how ridiculous and over-the-top it is.

He didn't kill anybody, THAT'S the point. He just thinks he has. He's a deluded fantasist. He imagines things happening and thinks he's actually done these things.

The landlord/realtor is a very bad person who cares more about the fact that the apartment she is trying to rent out will plummet in value if its found out that it was the scene of dozens of horrific murders. She would rather cover everything up (the book mentions how the smell of flowers is overwhelming in the remodeled apartment), letting a serial killer remain on the streets to commit more murders, than lose out on some money

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>Thanks i hate Twitter
whoever made this picture has no respect at all

You are literally a fucking moron. He quite clearly killed several you retarded douche

>By this definition everybody is schizophrenic or has been at some point.
Really makes me think...

Go read the book, you fucking brainlet. He doesn't kill a single person.

checkt

>only one person checked this
what is the world coming to

>American Psycho
>He's literally a psychotic psychopath
Clever title. It's layered.

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He literally made it a point not to kill him in the book.

that actually makes a lot of sense

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Based, this is the real answer, it doesn't matter whether he killed them or not. Bret Easton Ellis specifically said this in reference to why he didn't think his book could be properly adapted because he said the medium of film requires answers, while a book can just pose questions and leave them open.

>look at that subtle off white coloring, the tasteful thickness of it, my god, it even has a watermark.

sounds like he understands detail

Sarah go to bed

you keep saying this like its a fact. I've read the book several times and I find it very unclear as to whether any murders actually happened. Care to elaborate on your stance?

what are you talking about? The first murder in the book is Patrick killing a homeless man. To celebrate he goes to McDonald's, because he thinks thats where the homeless man would go, and orders an extra thick milkshake

Paul Allen was just a stand-in figure for Bateman's insecurities, he never really existed.

:^)

That's fucking retarded. Other people can see hear and talk to paul allen he's not a figment of an imagination.

>I've read the book several times

You haven't read it once.

you sound like a retard who has no argument to make

its not about whether the murders actually happened, its about how wallstreet stock traders are so fucking boring and materialistic that no-one actually cared or even believed him. thats why people refer to it as a black comedy, theres a beautiful irony in these shells of human beings being so obsessed by things like business cards that they have to commit the most awful atrocities possible (or just be dreaming about them) to try and feel something and yet they still cannot escape their robotic existence and be like normal human beings.

He gouged his eyes out and cut his nose off, but he explicitally stated he was careful not to kill him.

This. How the fuck do people NOT get this? I understood it when I was 18 and saw it for the first time.

All schizophrenics are psychotic, but not all psychotics are schizophrenic.

Chads. Arguing over whether or not the murders were real is fucking irrelevant. Maybe Paul died, maybe he didn't, maybe he died in a car crash in London, it doesn't matter. He's replaceable because they're all the same because Ellis is arguing the futility of this group of people. Any debate about the literal events of the film is shallow.

Sounds like you read it with preconceived notions if you think he definitely didn't kill anybody. It's completely ambiguous, hence why every goddamn american psycho discussion that has ever happened anywhere always has at least 4 different interpretations that can't be disproven no matter how much you dig your heels in you dumb fuck.

bale is british

the whole point of the book is ambiguity, because it is a black comedy making fun of materialistic rich people, the fact that you cannot comprehend that the events of the book do not matter if they are imaginary or real is astounding and even more so that you refer to others as dumbfucks. All the events are parts of lampooning Bale's character as a materialistic, boring shell of a human being, he quite literally says at the start of the movie he does not feel anything. Who is to say that anything in the movie is real, Bale quite complicity states he doesnt feel alive.

chekt

Congratulations on knowing what everyone else knows you pretentious faggot, but that doesn't mean we can't still speculate.

What about the homeless guy and prostitutes he may have murdered? They arent easily replaceable

clearly not everyone knows considering your earlier posts

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>just about everyone
There, fixed it. Now read something other than teenybopper's second edgy 2deep author and give me a book report on that. First is palahniuk, got any hot takes on how fight club is really about toxic masculinity?

hahaha you are fucking seething sorry for pointing out that your fanfics are retarded

american psycho is the best movie ever made prove me wrong

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I never posted a fanfic, you just posted some basic bitch analysis you probably lifted from a blog and now you come in my fucking dubs thread thinking you're mr swinging dick big brain and I'm not gonna let you get away with it.

Thats it, get your cock out bro its measuring time, lets end this once and for all.

It's actually quite smol and this is how I compensate. How tall are you though?

Why can't I watch this for the first time again bros

im 6"3 bro you?

I just reread that chapter. He says on the first stab he is careful not to kill the bum, but that is only because he plans to torture him a little. He then proceeds to stab him multiple times all over the place. He clearly murdered the bum (if you believe he killed anyone at all)

>decreased ability to understand reality.

so what is the correct way to understand reality?

Bateman is most likely suffering from "psychotic depression", a severe depression that triggers psychotic episodes. He has been prescribed antidepressants and sedatives, not antipsychotics, so obviously he has sought help for his problems which is atypical for schizophrenics and has been diagnosed with something else than schizophrenia. He is (at times) able to discern that what he experiences is not real (eg. the dinner date with his old crush) but decides to roll with it anyway. He's not a psychopath either because when not overcome by bloodlust he feels guilt and remorse of his actions, whether real or imagined.

He's depressed because he has devoted his entire life to "fit in", without getting any joy as such of dressing fancily and listening to Huey Lewis & The News, it's all just to get acceptance from his peers, but it's still all in vain as he can never be one of them and they are too shallow to ever care about him as a human being. He would be happy to watch reality TV (a guilty pleasure of his) with his qt3.14 secretary (which he admits he will end up with anyway, seeing that as a failure) but it's not what the high society expects of him so he puts up with the posh and vapid Evelyn.

This and only this
That’s the entire movies message
Doesn’t fucking matter in the end, the basic fact you can’t tell between reality and wild fantasy IS the point. It’s showcasing how out of whack this group of people are, that the wild events of the film are even debatable

>reality
Nice spook